View Full Version : Did mike tyson take steroids


catskills23
04-06-2005, 02:14 PM
According to ex heavyweight fighter tommy morrison two of the biggest fighters in the past 20 years took steroids . Tyson is without doubt one of the biggest fighters in the past 20 years if not the biggest . Dose anyone know for sure if tyson took steroids at any stage of his career ? . I have been told by boxing people that holyfield took steroids and looking at his body builders physique it dosent surprise me .

masterdirector
04-06-2005, 02:26 PM
kind of doubt it. They do drug testing and steroids don't do a lot of boxers' mobility. Would steroids really help punching power that much anyhow? I see the logic, that yeah you're stronger so you can throw your fist harder, but I don't know if that's completely true. You'd get more bulky, which could slow your punch down.

BadMagick
04-06-2005, 02:30 PM
I'd find it hard to believe Tyson did. He'd been that size forever. Holyfield, that's another story. He might have been on the juice a bit to gain some muscle going to HW.

Warrior Spirit
04-06-2005, 03:22 PM
Mike Tyson is the most naturally chiseled person, I've ever seen. The man is a physical specimen.

If you look at photos of him when he was 14-15 years old, he was friggin huge, especially for his height.

Mike Tyson is natural, back when Tyson was in his prime he did not lift alot of weights. He did all the basics, but by and large Mike's size and strength is God-given.

Vitali Klitschko already admitted he took steroids in his book. Holyfield went from 208 to about 216, which may or not be natural. Vargas and Mosely were most likely on roids.

I'm sure some boxers take steroids, but its hard to tell who does and its hard to prove it.

RwK
04-06-2005, 03:29 PM
Mike Tyson is the most naturally chiseled person, I've ever seen. The man is a physical specimen.
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Absolutely. People talk about Holyfield being the most muscular....and a "shoe in" for steriod accusation. Though I am not saying he uses them, Tyson is more muscular and should be accused before him. He has so much "Natural" mass, that he makes an argument for being the most muscular boxer in the sport. I certainly think so: Considering many people confuse muscular "Size" with "Defenition". Tyson may not be chiseled like he once was, but he has more mass than any other fighter in the sport. Jean Marc Mormeck makes his case as well. He was in excellent physical shape for the Braithwaite fight.

jack_the_rippuh
04-06-2005, 03:38 PM
I don't know about either fighter taking steroids, but if you look at Holyfield you notice how small his lower body is compared to his upper body.

enadeus
04-06-2005, 04:06 PM
I highly doubt that he took steroids. He was definetly naturally built. Regarding Vargas, he did steroids, but he claimed that his trainers slipped it to him without knowing it because they were worried about him making weight.

jack_the_rippuh
04-06-2005, 04:23 PM
Hey, Catskills, I got a question for you. It's kind of off-subject, but what the hey...

Is Jessica Alba past her prime?

leff
04-06-2005, 04:25 PM
Mike Tyson is the most naturally chiseled person, I've ever seen. The man is a physical specimen.

If you look at photos of him when he was 14-15 years old, he was friggin huge, especially for his height.

Mike Tyson is natural, back when Tyson was in his prime he did not lift alot of weights. He did all the basics, but by and large Mike's size and strength is God-given.

Vitali Klitschko already admitted he took steroids in his book. Holyfield went from 208 to about 216, which may or not be natural. Vargas and Mosely were most likely on roids.

I'm sure some boxers take steroids, but its hard to tell who does and its hard to prove it.

where can i find these pics????

ive allways wondered if tyson used roids thinking about that huge frame allready at 20.

quite frankly i dont know.

The Troll
04-06-2005, 07:06 PM
Bowe accused Golota of being on steroids during their fights. He did have pimples on his back, but I have seen plenty of people that have pimples all over their back or chest that dont take roids.

I dont think Tyson ever used them though.

dansweeney
04-06-2005, 07:07 PM
you guys are retarded, tyson weighed 190 at the age of 14, he is a natural freak, holyfield was on roids when he fought tyson those two times though, look at how big he is in those two fights, regardless of weight, alot of people know about it too. tyson was always a heavy, holyfield has no legs, he jacks his upper body up to compete with bigger heavies

joeboxer
04-06-2005, 07:17 PM
blood doping would help more than roids.

kapersky
04-06-2005, 08:22 PM
i dont think any of those two took steroids. tyson in his prime trained a lot and he got nature size even in young age. and its like holyfield live in the gym no way he took steroids, but its something about his body. his body is unaturally big for his legs. those who seen tyson vs holy 2, that fight holy was big as hell.

Kid Achilles
04-06-2005, 08:22 PM
Tyson may or may not take roids but he is no stranger to the weightroom. At 16 years old he was quite stocky (about 180-90 lbs on a 5'8" body) but his muscles had nowhere near the size and definition they did in his twenties or even now. I has seen clips of him lifting and have read stories of his lifts. The guy lifts and he is strong in the weightroom.

b-hop21183
04-06-2005, 09:14 PM
how about Ike Ibeabuchi, that was one big f#%%er

dansweeney
04-06-2005, 09:22 PM
holyfield outmuscled tyson in those fights, that shouldnt be possible, ill bet if they fought now both way past their primes, tyson kayo's holyfield within 2 rounds, holyfield was jacked on the juice

phallus
04-06-2005, 10:14 PM
holyfield outmuscled tyson in those fights, that shouldnt be possible, ill bet if they fought now both way past their primes, tyson kayo's holyfield within 2 rounds, holyfield was jacked on the juice


it might not have been the juice, it might have been " THE MIXTURE " - maybe he borrowed aaaron pryor's black bottle :D

catskills23
04-07-2005, 04:46 PM
I just found out that according to tommy morrison mike tyson defintely took steroids . Now we know that tyson definitely took steroids at what part of his career did he take them ? . Do you think he started taking them when he was with rooney ? .

neils7147933
04-07-2005, 04:50 PM
I just found out that according to tommy morrison mike tyson defintely took steroids . Now we know that tyson definitely took steroids at what part of his career did he take them ? . Do you think he started taking them when he was with rooney ? .

what makes tommy morrison's word equal fact?

chaawuu
04-07-2005, 04:53 PM
his body is unaturally big for his legs. those who seen tyson vs holy 2, that fight holy was big as hell.that doesn't mean anything, he probably just doesn't work out his legs.

catskills23
04-07-2005, 05:17 PM
Well why would morrison lie ? .

Kid Achilles
04-07-2005, 05:59 PM
If Jim Morrison said that Tyson is on the juice, I ain't gonna doubt him. After all, he is the Lizard King.

tonytucker
04-07-2005, 06:45 PM
What about David Tua? When he first went to America he weighed 190 pounds. Before you knew it he was around 220 pounds.......WTF and WTF. :eek: Later brother brologs.

Slipx
04-07-2005, 07:19 PM
he claimed that his trainers slipped it to him without knowing it because they were worried about him making weight.

if he really told some sports writer that then I truly think vargas is a jerk off..i mean you tested positive, why jerk off the public? may as well say you went ahead and shot in the ass rather than discredit your own camp, vargas should be ashamed for disrespecting his people like he did with that statement,(unless the trainer he accused was some new guy he didnt know)

but yeah if he put that off on his crew and they had been with him for more than a few months, then yeah, that's some grimy ****.

Slipx
04-07-2005, 07:31 PM
its like holyfield live in the gym no way he took steroids,

dude, trust me. holy juiced.

I'm 22 years old atm, and I've pretty much been a gym rat since i was age 10-12. my dad used to take me so the gym just became like a 'second home' pretty much. anyway, my point is that I've seen pretty much every body type there is, and when you've been going to a large gym like I have for so long, then you develop a keen sense of judgement about who's juicing and who's not, and 99.5% of the time you are correct about it. the different body shapes you see everyday, endomorph,mesomorph,ectomorph. first you see an ectomorph and he's a string bean, and a year later he looks like a blowed up mini-arnold, with his veins showing around his biceps and etc then yeah, it's a good assumption that he did steroids or some kind of heartbeat-modifying drug to get there.



It's like those world-class bodybuilders, they all start having heart problems around age 50, (like what 40% of them have heart attacks around that age) expect arnold schw. to begin having issues, and of course this makes it so obvious that Holyfield did steroids if you look at other steroid users hearts, it's the exact same problem he had. so people saying holyfield didn't juice are 1> ethnically biased, 2> uneducated on the issue

I can look at an induvidual and tell if he's been on juice, it's just something i can do. I'll give a small list of fighters that I know, have done some kind of steroid in the past, be it some kind of anabolic **** from gnc, be it a needle in the ass

ps- tyson is a natural mesomorph, after seeing pictures of him at age 12, it's obvious his family line were super slaves, bred to be beastly. i wonder what his dad looked like, notice you never seen any pics of mike's dad.

anyway, a short list off the top of my head...

david tua
evander holyfield
ty fields (rofl)
roy jones
vitali klischko(be it soem kind of anabolic **** from gnc, i know the klischko's have dabbled in juice..most likely the kind you inject with a needle..ppl from that part of the world have always used steroids and unorthodox training to become big in sports..why should they be any different, their bodies are unique in a way that the muscles are like no other human being ever before, of course they ****ing juiced, /flame on,but before you do, take a look at Primo carnera, then a look at either klischko,granted carnera was a lesser fighter, but still. you can tell that isn't natural muscle on the klischkos, you can just tell, be it gnc anabolic **** or not,i guarantee they take some kind of **** like that if they dont shoot in the ass)
wladimir klischko
ken norton
shane mosely

tonytucker
04-07-2005, 08:26 PM
dude, trust me. holy juiced.

I'm 22 years old atm, and I've pretty much been a gym rat since i was age 10-12. my dad used to take me so the gym just became like a 'second home' pretty much. anyway, my point is that I've seen pretty much every body type there is, and when you've been going to a large gym like I have for so long, then you develop a keen sense of judgement about who's juicing and who's not, and 99.5% of the time you are correct about it. the different body shapes you see everyday, endomorph,mesomorph,ectomorph. first you see an ectomorph and he's a string bean, and a year later he looks like a blowed up mini-arnold, with his veins showing around his biceps and etc then yeah, it's a good assumption that he did steroids or some kind of heartbeat-modifying drug to get there.



It's like those world-class bodybuilders, they all start having heart problems around age 50, (like what 40% of them have heart attacks around that age) expect arnold schw. to begin having issues, and of course this makes it so obvious that Holyfield did steroids if you look at other steroid users hearts, it's the exact same problem he had. so people saying holyfield didn't juice are 1> ethnically biased, 2> uneducated on the issue

I can look at an induvidual and tell if he's been on juice, it's just something i can do. I'll give a small list of fighters that I know, have done some kind of steroid in the past, be it some kind of anabolic **** from gnc, be it a needle in the ass

ps- tyson is a natural mesomorph, after seeing pictures of him at age 12, it's obvious his family line were super slaves, bred to be beastly. i wonder what his dad looked like, notice you never seen any pics of mike's dad.

anyway, a short list off the top of my head...

david tua
evander holyfield
ty fields (rofl)
roy jones
vitali klischko(be it soem kind of anabolic **** from gnc, i know the klischko's have dabbled in juice..most likely the kind you inject with a needle..ppl from that part of the world have always used steroids and unorthodox training to become big in sports..why should they be any different, their bodies are unique in a way that the muscles are like no other human being ever before, of course they ****ing juiced, /flame on,but before you do, take a look at Primo carnera, then a look at either klischko,granted carnera was a lesser fighter, but still. you can tell that isn't natural muscle on the klischkos, you can just tell, be it gnc anabolic **** or not,i guarantee they take some kind of **** like that if they dont shoot in the ass)
wladimir klischko
ken norton
shane moselyI would add Oscar Delah Hoya to the list-130 to 155 in great low bodyfat shape, ....I don't think so. Do they only test for steroids after the fight or before the fight aswell? Later brother brologs. P.S oh by the way, is that Atlas pushing Foreman in the picture, and if so when did this happen?

The Fix
04-07-2005, 08:31 PM
**** what morrison says, if there was a fighter that used steriods then he is gonna have to live with it. morrison just wants money like canseco, what a ***** move. who is he to judge other people

Slipx
04-07-2005, 10:30 PM
**** what morrison says, if there was a fighter that used steriods then he is gonna have to live with it. morrison just wants money like canseco, what a ***** move. who is he to judge other people

yeah...morrison's another name to add to that list.

and canseco, after the clowning Bill Maher gave him a few weeks ago, was publicly humiliated for his views in his book. ;)

dafuture
04-08-2005, 01:16 AM
james toney,kilitschkos ,mosley,vargas took steroids... probablyholyfield,tyson noway blessed mentally and physically could of still been undefeated if cusdmato never perished

dafuture
04-08-2005, 01:22 AM
dude, trust me. holy juiced.

I'm 22 years old atm, and I've pretty much been a gym rat since i was age 10-12. my dad used to take me so the gym just became like a 'second home' pretty much. anyway, my point is that I've seen pretty much every body type there is, and when you've been going to a large gym like I have for so long, then you develop a keen sense of judgement about who's juicing and who's not, and 99.5% of the time you are correct about it. the different body shapes you see everyday, endomorph,mesomorph,ectomorph. first you see an ectomorph and he's a string bean, and a year later he looks like a blowed up mini-arnold, with his veins showing around his biceps and etc then yeah, it's a good assumption that he did steroids or some kind of heartbeat-modifying drug to get there.



It's like those world-class bodybuilders, they all start having heart problems around age 50, (like what 40% of them have heart attacks around that age) expect arnold schw. to begin having issues, and of course this makes it so obvious that Holyfield did steroids if you look at other steroid users hearts, it's the exact same problem he had. so people saying holyfield didn't juice are 1> ethnically biased, 2> uneducated on the issue

I can look at an induvidual and tell if he's been on juice, it's just something i can do. I'll give a small list of fighters that I know, have done some kind of steroid in the past, be it some kind of anabolic **** from gnc, be it a needle in the ass

ps- tyson is a natural mesomorph, after seeing pictures of him at age 12, it's obvious his family line were super slaves, bred to be beastly. i wonder what his dad looked like, notice you never seen any pics of mike's dad.

anyway, a short list off the top of my head...

david tua
evander holyfield
ty fields (rofl)
roy jones
vitali klischko(be it soem kind of anabolic **** from gnc, i know the klischko's have dabbled in juice..most likely the kind you inject with a needle..ppl from that part of the world have always used steroids and unorthodox training to become big in sports..why should they be any different, their bodies are unique in a way that the muscles are like no other human being ever before, of course they ****ing juiced, /flame on,but before you do, take a look at Primo carnera, then a look at either klischko,granted carnera was a lesser fighter, but still. you can tell that isn't natural muscle on the klischkos, you can just tell, be it gnc anabolic **** or not,i guarantee they take some kind of **** like that if they dont shoot in the ass)
wladimir klischko
ken norton
shane mosely
right on point man

kapersky
04-08-2005, 04:52 AM
anyway, a short list off the top of my head...

david tua
evander holyfield
ty fields (rofl)
roy jones
vitali klischko(be it soem kind of anabolic **** from gnc, i know the klischko's have dabbled in juice..most likely the kind you inject with a needle..ppl from that part of the world have always used steroids and unorthodox training to become big in sports..why should they be any different, their bodies are unique in a way that the muscles are like no other human being ever before, of course they ****ing juiced, /flame on,but before you do, take a look at Primo carnera, then a look at either klischko,granted carnera was a lesser fighter, but still. you can tell that isn't natural muscle on the klischkos, you can just tell, be it gnc anabolic **** or not,i guarantee they take some kind of **** like that if they dont shoot in the ass)
wladimir klischko
ken norton
shane mosely

roy jones and david tua?
:confused:, what make you think tua took juice?, he isnt mucscular. i agree klicshko took juice and holyfield,mosley looks unatural maybe also norton

marvelous_TG
04-08-2005, 05:29 AM
Why norton he looked good for sure, but nothing special with a little bit of weight training one can manage to built that body.

Johnny_Rocket
04-08-2005, 09:49 AM
Where's everyone seeing these pictures of Tyson at like age 14-15, and these videos of him weightlifting. I'd like to see them if anyone has them.

kapersky
04-08-2005, 11:04 AM
Where's everyone seeing these pictures of Tyson at like age 14-15, and these videos of him weightlifting. I'd like to see them if anyone has them.

me too, and why havent anyone seen picture of his father?

Slipx
04-08-2005, 12:46 PM
roy jones and david tua?
:confused:, what make you think tua took juice?, he isnt mucscular. i agree klicshko took juice and holyfield,mosley looks unatural maybe also norton

guess you missed the moorer fight,

tua's traps were larger than any traps I've ever seen on a human being, it wasn't natural, im talking 8 inch traps

and Jones, didnt take em until later in his career, around the time him and Griffin fought I'm positive he shot in the ass

Slipx
04-08-2005, 12:48 PM
Why norton he looked good for sure, but nothing special with a little bit of weight training one can manage to built that body.
thats bull**** man

Kid Achilles
04-08-2005, 01:55 PM
Norton had one of the very best physiques in the history of the heavyweight division. His proportions were incredible. It's not just about size. Guys like Tyson and Golota had bigger biceps but neither had anywhere near the physique of Norton.


On the subject of roid use I would guess that a great deal of the more muscular fighters use roids. It's nearly impossible to retain that bulging bicep look when you run so many miles a day in addition to the sparring, rope skipping, sprinting and other cardiovascular activities that are a staple to every fighter's training regimen.

masterdirector
04-08-2005, 02:14 PM
Drago took steroids

Hell I say make it legal, I don't think it'd matter much for punching power. Really don't. It'd just make guys more bulky and less mobile.

I don't believe the Jones taking steroids thing at all.


As for Tommy Morrison, that idiot doesn't know crap. He's pissed off at the world because he has AIDS and was nothing but a great white hype. The 17-0 Ray Mercer proved that. Morrison was like 30-0. Of course Morrison will try to project his own guilt of using 'roids on everyone else, especially his idols. How the hell would he know if Tyson had or had not taken steroids? I can tell you without a doubt that Tyson wasn't friends, gym mates, or anything even similar with Morrison. So even if we say Tyson did do steroids, Morrison doesn't have first hand knowledge of it. It isn't like Tyson would just shoot up in front of Tommy Morrison.

I don't think Tua took them. People who take them usually look really ripped and Tua has never looked ripped. Duh his stomach is always fat, but I mean even his upper body hasn't looked all that toned. I think it is a combination of Tua's laziness in the gym (or at least inability to get his weight down) and possibly his heritage. Though I know Maoris are definitely able to get cut. They're similar to samoans I think, and you see a lot of fat samoans, but look at The Rock, part samoan. Also look at some of the guys in Once Were Warriors. That guy that played Jango Fett, he's Maori and he's f'n huge, not fat.

Slipx
04-08-2005, 03:47 PM
after the beating i gave you in the czyz/white hope threads, i find it funny you have the balls to still post here

w/e, i guess some people like to hang around and continue congregating after they get punked

masterdirector
04-08-2005, 08:30 PM
You accuse me of being racist, but let's set the record straight.

You go out of your way to defend ****ing Bobby Czyz, who nobody except maybe you, is going to say was a legend or even better than say a B fighter.

You make a post saying Pac vs. Morales for $45 is a rip off and that you won't buy it. Then, you say you would pay to watch Gatti vs. Mickey Ward (two white guys).

You said you think Wlad vs. Vitali would be fight of the decade.

You are one of the few John Ruiz defenders I've ever seen. How the **** do you say Pac vs. Morales could possibly be a flop, then go on to defend John Ruiz? What ****ing John Ruiz match isn't a "flop"? John Ruiz himself is a ****ing FLOP...and a couple other words that start with the letter F.

You also called Tarver a Tar baby, though you were subliminal with it, I saw right though that bull****. Tarver the baby? Come on, get real.

actually admired him for not doing that, 400 years ago his people were slaves, and now comes the big uprising, the retribution, the black panthers REJOICE and all that bull****,

george just said '**** it, i'm gonna do what i wanna do, and not gonna follow someone' and was himself,went on up there with an american flag... you gotta admire that..

Come on, what you really mean is George was a good n*gg*r. Just like Joe Louis was made to be. Say what you really mean. You're not fooling anybody. 400 years ago? Mother ****er, you've no ****ing clue.

Yeah, blacks were freed supposedly in 1863 with the emancipation proclamation. But that didn't end the black struggle with whites in this country. Don't be so ignorant. You act like the black people of the US had it good in the 60s. Hahahahaha. Yeah, it may be better now than it has ever been, but discrimination still exists. It is more hidden, more subtextual. But, it is still clearly there. I see it every day in one way or another.

BrooklynBomber
04-08-2005, 08:57 PM
I dont get it how Vitaly took roids.(i know the olympic disqualification story) He always looke pretty lean and never had any super definition on his body?
Wlad is the other story though.

Larry Merchant
04-11-2006, 09:43 PM
I think TYSON did use roids I think alot of heavys do use em..

Versastyle
04-11-2006, 09:53 PM
Norton had one of the very best physiques in the history of the heavyweight division. His proportions were incredible. It's not just about size. Guys like Tyson and Golota had bigger biceps but neither had anywhere near the physique of Norton.


On the subject of roid use I would guess that a great deal of the more muscular fighters use roids. It's nearly impossible to retain that bulging bicep look when you run so many miles a day in addition to the sparring, rope skipping, sprinting and other cardiovascular activities that are a staple to every fighter's training regimen.


hell i do :D

Versastyle
04-11-2006, 09:54 PM
I think TYSON did use roids I think alot of heavys do use em..
please look at him at 13 dudes twice my size so why would he need to do them. your ****in dumb.ask toney and other fighters about steriod in the system ;)

AREALFIGHTER
04-11-2006, 10:26 PM
According to ex heavyweight fighter tommy morrison two of the biggest fighters in the past 20 years took steroids . Tyson is without doubt one of the biggest fighters in the past 20 years if not the biggest . Dose anyone know for sure if tyson took steroids at any stage of his career ? . I have been told by boxing people that holyfield took steroids and looking at his body builders physique it dosent surprise me .
I have seen pictures of a very amature mike tyson and he was huge then and no manager or trainer is going to give a person that young roids. It does stunt your growth however but mike is almost 6 foot and does not look out of proportion. The truth is Mike new he was the baddest man on the planet and trained like it two. With all the attention on mike it would also have been harder for him to do so because of all the media around him at most times and he and his managment would \have known that if he was caught it would have destroyed mike utterly. 80% sure that mike was clean of roids at least

.::EnRiQuE::.
04-11-2006, 10:29 PM
i have a question: Did prime Tyson have the feet to be flat-footed?

AREALFIGHTER
04-11-2006, 10:32 PM
I dont get it how Vitaly took roids.(i know the olympic disqualification story) He always looke pretty lean and never had any super definition on his body?
Wlad is the other story though.One thing roids does is it direcly metabolizes body rezeves to use as fat how ever do you have any clue how many caliories top in shape HW take in. If you were taking roids you coud actually eat more. However many russian athletes at the time were on roids. VK is a prim suspect I think I don't have a pic in front of me but his shoulders are not very wide and nither is his chest deep even with roids he does not have the frame to benefit to much from them his legs however are very big. Tyson had a very big frame and was thick.

AREALFIGHTER
04-11-2006, 10:42 PM
dude, trust me. holy juiced.

I'm 22 years old atm, and I've pretty much been a gym rat since i was age 10-12. my dad used to take me so the gym just became like a 'second home' pretty much. anyway, my point is that I've seen pretty much every body type there is, and when you've been going to a large gym like I have for so long, then you develop a keen sense of judgement about who's juicing and who's not, and 99.5% of the time you are correct about it. the different body shapes you see everyday, endomorph,mesomorph,ectomorph. first you see an ectomorph and he's a string bean, and a year later he looks like a blowed up mini-arnold, with his veins showing around his biceps and etc then yeah, it's a good assumption that he did steroids or some kind of heartbeat-modifying drug to get there.



It's like those world-class bodybuilders, they all start having heart problems around age 50, (like what 40% of them have heart attacks around that age) expect arnold schw. to begin having issues, and of course this makes it so obvious that Holyfield did steroids if you look at other steroid users hearts, it's the exact same problem he had. so people saying holyfield didn't juice are 1> ethnically biased, 2> uneducated on the issue

I can look at an induvidual and tell if he's been on juice, it's just something i can do. I'll give a small list of fighters that I know, have done some kind of steroid in the past, be it some kind of anabolic **** from gnc, be it a needle in the ass

ps- tyson is a natural mesomorph, after seeing pictures of him at age 12, it's obvious his family line were super slaves, bred to be beastly. i wonder what his dad looked like, notice you never seen any pics of mike's dad.

anyway, a short list off the top of my head...

david tua
evander holyfield
ty fields (rofl)
roy jones
vitali klischko(be it soem kind of anabolic **** from gnc, i know the klischko's have dabbled in juice..most likely the kind you inject with a needle..ppl from that part of the world have always used steroids and unorthodox training to become big in sports..why should they be any different, their bodies are unique in a way that the muscles are like no other human being ever before, of course they ****ing juiced, /flame on,but before you do, take a look at Primo carnera, then a look at either klischko,granted carnera was a lesser fighter, but still. you can tell that isn't natural muscle on the klischkos, you can just tell, be it gnc anabolic **** or not,i guarantee they take some kind of **** like that if they dont shoot in the ass)
wladimir klischko
ken norton
shane moselyDude what ever check it i'm 5'7 and my torso looks like it woould belong on someone over six foot. I have tiny legs like holy and a very big upper body and I have never juiced its all genetics. Ps holy fields legs may be small but it does not mean that they are not powerful. I was squating almost 400 pounds as a 140 sofmor in HS and trust me most girls would kill to have my legs. Its all about what you have. Your body may be smaller but be much stronger that a lean bigger man some peoples muscle fibers are better than others. Mike had naturally both however.

spinksjinx
04-11-2006, 10:43 PM
What about David Tua? When he first went to America he weighed 190 pounds. Before you knew it he was around 220 pounds.......WTF and WTF. :eek: Later brother brologs.


Tua is Samoan they are naturally large people who overtime continue to get bigger and bigger and bigger...Tua on the juice is a ridiculous claim......

Holyfield on the juice, yeah I believe that but not for the statements that some of you are making...One that makes me laugh is that "his legs are so small and his upper body is huge" not everyone is porportioned correctly, I weight like 124 pounds right now and my calves are 16 inches of muscle while a buddy of mine weighs 220 and his is 14"...Thats a really far and out their accusation of saying that Holyfield was on the juice because he wasnt porportioned to perfection....

opethdrums
04-11-2006, 10:55 PM
thats bull**** man

no i am built like ken norton and i've never taken anything close to a steroid.

THE REAL NINJA
04-11-2006, 10:56 PM
According to ex heavyweight fighter tommy morrison two of the biggest fighters in the past 20 years took steroids . Tyson is without doubt one of the biggest fighters in the past 20 years if not the biggest . Dose anyone know for sure if tyson took steroids at any stage of his career ? . I have been told by boxing people that holyfield took steroids and looking at his body builders physique it dosent surprise me .
he was prob talking about roy jones because of that bad test he had, maybe james toney also

Nautilus
04-11-2006, 10:57 PM
Yes, Beavis, he did take steroids.

spinksjinx
04-11-2006, 11:10 PM
Morrison is an avid steroid user who is dumb as Canseco is perhaps even dumber by denying that his aids is actually a disease...

Calling Tyson a steroid (ab)user on no merits accept that he has a masculine frame is absurd. Everyone knows Mike loves the weightroom and obviously has awesome genetics and is rather stocky to begin with. So any real mass he puts on his body will be impressive....

Morrison is a f'n tool who knows nothing and lives everyday of his life to put shame on others during his era to alleviate the emotional scarring he has....

On a side note, it is always kicked around at what a beast Tyson was in his early-mid teens but I have never seen photos...I want to see photos of this big buff Tyson at 15.

PBDS
04-11-2006, 11:20 PM
Morrison is an avid steroid user who is dumb as Canseco is perhaps even dumber by denying that his aids is actually a disease...

Calling Tyson a steroid (ab)user on no merits accept that he has a masculine frame is absurd. Everyone knows Mike loves the weightroom and obviously has awesome genetics and is rather stocky to begin with. So any real mass he puts on his body will be impressive....

Morrison is a f'n tool who knows nothing and lives everyday of his life to put shame on others during his era to alleviate the emotional scarring he has....

On a side note, it is always kicked around at what a beast Tyson was in his early-mid teens but I have never seen photos...I want to see photos of this big buff Tyson at 15.



....Tommy Morrison has three times the IQ of Tyson and twice that of Conseco. If you ever saw him talk you would know that. On a side note, your last paragraph had more than a little homo eroticism in it. Would you like to see him all lathered up or anything in that fantasy pic you have in your mind. ;)

BLOODSHED
04-11-2006, 11:22 PM
Agree totally... Morrison is a grade A moron. His wife is pretty dumb too. Weren't they still having sex after the diagnosis? At least his excuse is that he's getting his brains scrambled for a living. What's her excuse for having sex with someone who has a lethal disease?
Morrison is an avid steroid user who is dumb as Canseco is perhaps even dumber by denying that his aids is actually a disease...

Calling Tyson a steroid (ab)user on no merits accept that he has a masculine frame is absurd. Everyone knows Mike loves the weightroom and obviously has awesome genetics and is rather stocky to begin with. So any real mass he puts on his body will be impressive....

Morrison is a f'n tool who knows nothing and lives everyday of his life to put shame on others during his era to alleviate the emotional scarring he has....

On a side note, it is always kicked around at what a beast Tyson was in his early-mid teens but I have never seen photos...I want to see photos of this big buff Tyson at 15.

Larry Merchant
04-11-2006, 11:26 PM
I heard d-bol was popular for HEavyweights to take back in the day.

Nautilus
04-11-2006, 11:26 PM
Morrison is an avid steroid user who is dumb as Canseco is perhaps even dumber by denying that his aids is actually a disease...

Calling Tyson a steroid (ab)user on no merits accept that he has a masculine frame is absurd. Everyone knows Mike loves the weightroom and obviously has awesome genetics and is rather stocky to begin with. So any real mass he puts on his body will be impressive....

Morrison is a f'n tool who knows nothing and lives everyday of his life to put shame on others during his era to alleviate the emotional scarring he has....

On a side note, it is always kicked around at what a beast Tyson was in his early-mid teens but I have never seen photos...I want to see photos of this big buff Tyson at 15.


I did weightlifting (almost became a professinal, thank God, not) and I could easily tell the difference between the guys who did steroids and who did not. At 20 years of age, Tyson definitely did steroids -- that's my honest assesment.

Hous
04-12-2006, 12:29 AM
Wladimir Klischko
http://www.boxen.com/upload/Klitschko_Wiegen_Dortmund.jpg

Thats not a small frame for his muscle mass, looks all natural to me. He looks like thats exactly where he should be.

http://www.profibox.hu/images/vok/Wladimir%20Klitscko/wladi-2.jpe

Still has a weak chin though.

Hydro
04-12-2006, 12:43 AM
When you hear him talk it sounds like it, however that guy was huge and really built when he was 12.

jujuman
04-12-2006, 01:14 AM
if you want to know when an athlete is on steroids its very very simple. If you can still do things you did in the sport well after your twenties, then you are on steroids. The human body has limits. you cant be as fast as you were or as strong as you were, or have as much endurance as you had in your twenties. dont buy in to that training has changed crap. dont buy into that they get drug tsted crap, ben johnson only got caught in 1988, he had been on the juice for years. some never get caught. bottom line is the human body ages, we are born we grow old and we die, its that simple, once you start seeing guys out running the biological clock, there is your first hint.

Hous
04-12-2006, 01:32 AM
November 03, 2004

Klitschko Admits Steroid Use
Vitali Klitschko, who defends his WBC heavyweight title against Danny Williams on Dec 11, has admitted to having used steroids earlier in his career. In 1996, Klitschko was preparing to represent the Ukraine in the Atlanta Olympics but was tossed off the team after testing positive for a banned substance. Vitali had planned to compete at super-heavyweight while his younger brother, Wladimir, would fight at heavyweight. Wladimir took over the super-heavyweight slot and won the gold medal. Both Klitschkos have been tested routinely for banned substances throughout their professional careers and have always been clean.
Wlads clean, its official.
While Vitali was still fighting as an amateur for the Ukrainian boxing team in 1996, he tested positive for a banned substance and was immediately thrown off the team. At the time, Vitali was training for the 1996 Atlanta Olympics. Since then, Vitali has tested clean for Steroids during his entire professional career.
Vitali's professional career is clean aswell.

ricecrispi
04-12-2006, 01:37 AM
....Tommy Morrison has three times the IQ of Tyson and twice that of Conseco. If you ever saw him talk you would know that. On a side note, your last paragraph had more than a little homo eroticism in it. Would you like to see him all lathered up or anything in that fantasy pic you have in your mind. ;)

too bad he doesn't know how to put on a rubber when he's ****ing skanks

spinksjinx
04-12-2006, 07:59 AM
....Tommy Morrison has three times the IQ of Tyson and twice that of Conseco. If you ever saw him talk you would know that. On a side note, your last paragraph had more than a little homo eroticism in it. Would you like to see him all lathered up or anything in that fantasy pic you have in your mind. ;)


Intelligence aside Morrisson is still bitter that he can no longer fight and brings down anyone he can....That isnt smart.

elgaringo
04-12-2006, 08:14 AM
Holyfield trained with Lee Haney (8 time mr Olimpia) to bulk up to heavy from cruiser. Haney was obviously on roids, I know this does'nt prove anything. As regards to it being in his system, it depends how long he was out of the ring for. I don't know how long it takes to come out of your system.

Da Iceman
04-12-2006, 08:45 AM
tyson didnt take no damn steriods, did you see him when he was 13 he looked like a grown man.

suberstar_zx6R
04-12-2006, 12:09 PM
what about frank bruno the guy was or is ****ing huge :eek:

spinksjinx
04-12-2006, 01:38 PM
tyson didnt take no damn steriods, did you see him when he was 13 he looked like a grown man.


Nope I am still waiting for these pictures...All I ever hear is how big and masculine he was and he was built like a truck but never seen them...Care to share?

Yaman
04-12-2006, 01:45 PM
Nope I am still waiting for these pictures...All I ever hear is how big and masculine he was and he was built like a truck but never seen them...Care to share?

Allright. I'll post a pic of him when he was 13 i believe. Maybe 15 but i dont remember.

Yaman
04-12-2006, 01:50 PM
Okay here it is.

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/3471/lewislg0115xw.jpg


Remember, this is a 13 year old Mike Tyson and the other boxer on the pic is...LENNOX LEWIS!! You know how buff he was in his prime. He's nowhere near as big as Tyson in his younger days and he was also a year older.


This is proof that Tyson didn't take steroids.

Left2body
04-12-2006, 01:58 PM
Holy ****, are you sure he is 13 in there? OMG I am so happy I didnt go to Junior High with him.

Here is some K for that pic

PBDS
04-12-2006, 02:17 PM
Okay here it is.

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/3471/lewislg0115xw.jpg


Remember, this is a 13 year old Mike Tyson and the other boxer on the pic is...LENNOX LEWIS!! You know how buff he was in his prime. He's nowhere near as big as Tyson in his younger days and he was also a year older.


This is proof that Tyson didn't take steroids.



....The only thing that proves is that he reached his maximum height at 13. Apparently he didn't get any taller or smarter after that.

Left2body
04-12-2006, 02:30 PM
....The only thing that proves is that he reached his maximum height at 13. Apparently he didn't get any taller or smarter after that.

Nah, he looks huge and ripped there man. Look at his left side where he has his arm up, look at his wings man there popping out. It definitely just not height.

yrrej
04-12-2006, 02:36 PM
No way. He was (un)naturally big and strong from a young age. He couldn't afford steroids early on anyway....

Left2body
04-12-2006, 02:53 PM
Yeah, from that picture and ones where I've seen him at 17-20, I would say that he is just naturally well proportioned. Tyson always had power and was never really that big for a heavy weight (prime tyson was 215-220lbs). His power was never a question for him so why would they give him steroids? What purpose would that serve? My assesment is that Tyson didnt need steroids to have heavy weight power and strenght and that he didnt take it.

Yaman
04-12-2006, 03:37 PM
....The only thing that proves is that he reached his maximum height at 13. Apparently he didn't get any taller or smarter after that.


Coming from a 130lb Tyson hating kid. Jealous? You'll never have a great body.

Hous
04-12-2006, 03:48 PM
Tyson has unnaturally superior genes. They may just be a mutation thats not inherrited. The only way to tell is look at his children, does he have any?

suberstar_zx6R
04-12-2006, 04:05 PM
Tyson has unnaturally superior genes. They may just be a mutation thats not inherrited. The only way to tell is look at his children, does he have any?
i found some baby pictures of mike :eek:
http://www.doghouseboxing.com/images/Mike_Tyson_Baby/mike_tyson_baby.jpghttp://www.doghouseboxing.com/images/Mike_Tyson_Baby/Mike_Tyson_kid.jpghttp://www.doghouseboxing.com/images/Mike_Tyson_Baby/mike_tyson_mom.jpg

PBDS
04-12-2006, 04:10 PM
Coming from a 130lb Tyson hating kid. Jealous? You'll never have a great body.


....The only kids in this convo are the pre-pubescent Tyson fans. Seems like all the teenagers got a thing for Ironed Mike. They must be fans of ignorant front runners or something.

Left2body
04-12-2006, 04:15 PM
i found some baby pictures of mike :eek:
http://www.doghouseboxing.com/images/Mike_Tyson_Baby/mike_tyson_baby.jpghttp://www.doghouseboxing.com/images/Mike_Tyson_Baby/Mike_kid.jpghttp://www.doghouseboxing.com/images/Mike_Tyson_Baby/mike_tyson_mom.jpg

ROFLLLLLLL :D

suberstar_zx6R
04-12-2006, 04:24 PM
ROFLLLLLLL :D
thanks for the good karma bro :D

Yaman
04-12-2006, 05:07 PM
thanks for the good karma bro :D


I just gave you bad karma :D

AREALFIGHTER
04-12-2006, 05:09 PM
if you want to know when an athlete is on steroids its very very simple. If you can still do things you did in the sport well after your twenties, then you are on steroids. The human body has limits. you cant be as fast as you were or as strong as you were, or have as much endurance as you had in your twenties. dont buy in to that training has changed crap. dont buy into that they get drug tsted crap, ben johnson only got caught in 1988, he had been on the juice for years. some never get caught. bottom line is the human body ages, we are born we grow old and we die, its that simple, once you start seeing guys out running the biological clock, there is your first hint.look at worlds strongest man Juju most of those guys are in their mid to late 30's or older and hardly any are under the age of 28 as far as I remeber.

suberstar_zx6R
04-12-2006, 05:14 PM
I just gave you bad karma :D
its all in good fun :D

Johnny Blayzz
04-12-2006, 05:24 PM
According to ex heavyweight fighter tommy morrison two of the biggest fighters in the past 20 years took steroids . Tyson is without doubt one of the biggest fighters in the past 20 years if not the biggest . Dose anyone know for sure if tyson took steroids at any stage of his career ? . I have been told by boxing people that holyfield took steroids and looking at his body builders physique it dosent surprise me .
Probably, any I'd say I'd guess not the only drug Mike ever took, But I'd also say he's definitely not the only one either...

jujuman
04-13-2006, 12:16 AM
look at worlds strongest man Juju most of those guys are in their mid to late 30's or older and hardly any are under the age of 28 as far as I remeber.
dude find out at what age your body stops producing testosterone. once that ends you cant get stronger or faster, only a steady decline is possible after that. if you think the strongest men in the world competitors are not on steroinds then good luck.

realheavyhands
03-16-2007, 09:00 AM
dude, trust me. holy juiced.

I'm 22 years old atm, and I've pretty much been a gym rat since i was age 10-12. my dad used to take me so the gym just became like a 'second home' pretty much. anyway, my point is that I've seen pretty much every body type there is, and when you've been going to a large gym like I have for so long, then you develop a keen sense of judgement about who's juicing and who's not, and 99.5% of the time you are correct about it. the different body shapes you see everyday, endomorph,mesomorph,ectomorph. first you see an ectomorph and he's a string bean, and a year later he looks like a blowed up mini-arnold, with his veins showing around his biceps and etc then yeah, it's a good assumption that he did steroids or some kind of heartbeat-modifying drug to get there.



It's like those world-class bodybuilders, they all start having heart problems around age 50, (like what 40% of them have heart attacks around that age) expect arnold schw. to begin having issues, and of course this makes it so obvious that Holyfield did steroids if you look at other steroid users hearts, it's the exact same problem he had. so people saying holyfield didn't juice are 1> ethnically biased, 2> uneducated on the issue

I can look at an induvidual and tell if he's been on juice, it's just something i can do. I'll give a small list of fighters that I know, have done some kind of steroid in the past, be it some kind of anabolic **** from gnc, be it a needle in the ass

ps- tyson is a natural mesomorph, after seeing pictures of him at age 12, it's obvious his family line were super slaves, bred to be beastly. i wonder what his dad looked like, notice you never seen any pics of mike's dad.

anyway, a short list off the top of my head...

david tua
evander holyfield
ty fields (rofl)
roy jones
vitali klischko(be it soem kind of anabolic **** from gnc, i know the klischko's have dabbled in juice..most likely the kind you inject with a needle..ppl from that part of the world have always used steroids and unorthodox training to become big in sports..why should they be any different, their bodies are unique in a way that the muscles are like no other human being ever before, of course they ****ing juiced, /flame on,but before you do, take a look at Primo carnera, then a look at either klischko,granted carnera was a lesser fighter, but still. you can tell that isn't natural muscle on the klischkos, you can just tell, be it gnc anabolic **** or not,i guarantee they take some kind of **** like that if they dont shoot in the ass)
wladimir klischko
ken norton
shane mosely

i agree 100 percent with that list except norton

Kid Achilles
03-16-2007, 09:58 AM
dude find out at what age your body stops producing testosterone. once that ends you cant get stronger or faster, only a steady decline is possible after that. if you think the strongest men in the world competitors are not on steroinds then good luck.


Even before the invention of steroids, the strongest men in the world were almost always 30+, and quite hefty. The young lean guys are an exception, not the rule. Usually they are 32 years old and up with less than stellar muscle definition.

CletusVanDamme
03-16-2007, 10:01 AM
i agree 100 percent with that list except norton

Yeah I have seen USMC pics of Norton and he had that physique in the Marines. No way he way on Roids in the Marines. This makes me wonder about Mike "Hercules" Weaver with his Muscle Beach connections which was a steroid haven and Weaver's body was unreal.

realheavyhands
03-16-2007, 10:04 AM
Yeah I have seen USMC pics of Norton and he had that physique in the Marines. No way he way on Roids in the Marines. This makes me wonder about Mike "Hercules" Weaver with his Muscle Beach connections which was a steroid haven and Weaver's body was unreal.

also ken norton junior was a 240 lb linebacker

CletusVanDamme
03-16-2007, 10:08 AM
also ken norton junior was a 240 lb linebacker

Ken Sr. is still jacked and really muscular now even.

catskills23
03-16-2007, 04:03 PM
i seriously doubt tyson ever took steroids . Tyson wasent exactly very smart for cheating drug tests .Remember he tested positive for cannabis after the golata fight . When tyson was with rooney i cant see how he could of took steroids . Why would rooney,cayton and jaccobs put tyson on steroids when tyson was their cash cow . If tyson was caught their ability to make money would be destroyed . Cayton and jacobs were very smart business man . They built on tysons image to make him squeaky clean which made him so popular. Tyson had natural speed and power . He was just a freak of nature, He was as big and as muscular at 15 as he is now and was 190 pounds when he was disccovered by dmato at 13 . His body in the eighties looked very natural . Its possible tyson took steroids when he was realised from prison because his body was very bulked up and artifical looking . But no way he took them when he was with rooney . Tyson didnt even do weights when he was with rooney . Rooney said that he wouldnt let tyson do weights because it would make him too bulkt and take way his speed and agility and decrease his stamina . What would be the point in tyson doing steroids in the eighties when he didnt even do any weightlifting

CletusVanDamme
03-16-2007, 04:10 PM
Yeah Tyson was one of the few fighters that trained with the basics in the Gym. Jacobs really cared for Mike and would never do anything to jeoporadize Mike health and wellbeing. Same go for Cus. Rooney would never go against Cus and would eat dog **** if Cus said so.

catskills23
03-16-2007, 05:02 PM
Yeah Tyson was one of the few fighters that trained with the basics in the Gym. Jacobs really cared for Mike and would never do anything to jeoporadize Mike health and wellbeing. Same go for Cus. Rooney would never go against Cus and would eat dog **** if Cus said so.

Did you know rooney and cayton?.

CletusVanDamme
03-16-2007, 05:04 PM
Did you know rooney and cayton?.

No not really though I have met Cayton and he is an oppurtonist and businessman. Jacobs and Cus loved Mike though from what I have read and what Mike has said. No way they would have given him roids.

Chups
03-16-2007, 05:05 PM
He took an ear. :thinking:

Double
03-16-2007, 05:16 PM
ps- tyson is a natural mesomorph, after seeing pictures of him at age 12, it's obvious his family line were super slaves, bred to be beastly. i wonder what his dad looked like, notice you never seen any pics of mike's dad.



Please tell me you're joking with this racist ass comment.

-Antonio-
03-16-2007, 05:23 PM
Please tell me you're joking with this racist ass comment.

They actually did that back then. They would breed the stronger slaves together to make "super slaves" I've heard arguments stating thats the reason blacks are usually more naturally athletic than other races.

Benny Leonard
03-16-2007, 06:20 PM
Absolutely. People talk about Holyfield being the most muscular....and a "shoe in" for steriod accusation. Though I am not saying he uses them, Tyson is more muscular and should be accused before him. He has so much "Natural" mass, that he makes an argument for being the most muscular boxer in the sport. I certainly think so: Considering many people confuse muscular "Size" with "Defenition". Tyson may not be chiseled like he once was, but he has more mass than any other fighter in the sport. Jean Marc Mormeck makes his case as well. He was in excellent physical shape for the Braithwaite fight.

Yes, you are right, it is impossible for Mike to be natural, after all, who else has looked like him that really didn't lift weights, hmmm

Same size (height and weight) and most likely around the same measurements of Mike Tyson, introducing Sam McVey
http://www.si.umich.edu/chico/Harlem/graphics/jackj_374.jpg

http://www.spiritofsport.co.uk/images_versions/617.jpg


I am not saying it wasn't possible, especially after prison, but Mike was always the naturally bigger man. Oh, he also doesn't seem to lose weight like Holyfield does. Mike's problem has always been losing the weight.
Mike's legs were always huge, so was his big ass head.

Primo Carnera was bigger than Tyson, was Primo on steroids?

http://www.pugilistica.com/BoxingArchive2/PrimoCarnera1938ThinkingManGlovesOn1.JPG

realheavyhands
03-16-2007, 06:23 PM
Mike Was Never The Bigger Man

Benny Leonard
03-16-2007, 06:23 PM
Tyson's body in the 80's really wasn't all that impressive when you compare him to other athletes, like say NFL players.

metalslug
03-16-2007, 06:31 PM
Ok, guys come on. All these commenst, about, "look how skinny his legs are compared to his upper", "Tyson was too big, so he took roids", "he was bigger in his 20's, than he was when a teenagre", no ****. Look, roids give you power for a short term deal, and hamper like hell stamina. Hloy's syle, YOU HAD TO HAVE NATURAL stamina, it would be impossible to fight like he did ad be on enough of a roid program to get any sort of edge, without getting winded past the 6th. Look at Tyosn in his ameture ring days, HUGE. Listen. people get bigger as they get older, because their metabalism slows. Also, some bodybuidlers will tell you, some of them, cant get thgier legs huge if they wanted to. End of the story is, it comes down to genetics. Oh, and to those who say pimples are a sign, and in some are, but I ave never sed ANY sort of drug, and I have random breakouts. Lets concentrate now, on the boxers whom are actuve, and lets make sure they are playing fair. Arguing about fighters who dont matter in the ring now is just pointless.

Benny Leonard
03-16-2007, 06:32 PM
Tyson may or may not take roids but he is no stranger to the weightroom. At 16 years old he was quite stocky (about 180-90 lbs on a 5'8" body) but his muscles had nowhere near the size and definition they did in his twenties or even now. I has seen clips of him lifting and have read stories of his lifts. The guy lifts and he is strong in the weightroom.

This is where it confuses me, what excercise did Mike do for weights?

I read an article way back that supposedly said Tyson said himself that he didn't really lift all that much, but did to powerlifts for overall body development, although I never know what to believe in articles anymore.

One thing you have to remember, as you get older, past your teens, your body will become more muscular, unless you don't have the genes for it, then you are ****ed, and I am sorry.

Benny Leonard
03-16-2007, 06:36 PM
Probably, any I'd say I'd guess not the only drug Mike ever took, But I'd also say he's definitely not the only one either...

Mike took some serious drugs that crack-head's use, so anything is possible.

However, I have mention this many time before, people with natural high testosterone levels are supposedly more likely to do all sorts of drugs because they are "risk-takers" and need either something to calm them down or something to do. That said, they were also found less likely than anyone else to do steroids, why? because they didn't need it.

Hydro
03-16-2007, 06:39 PM
They actually did that back then. They would breed the stronger slaves together to make "super slaves" I've heard arguments stating thats the reason blacks are usually more naturally athletic than other races.

True.

That was talked about in a couple of my college courses in Sociology.

Hydro
03-16-2007, 06:40 PM
Is Jessica Alba past her prime?

I liked her better when she wasn't quite as skinny, back in Idle Hands.

Versastyle
03-16-2007, 06:43 PM
http://www.sports-photos.com/catalog/images/HolyfieldTKOTyson2CLR.tif.jpg
http://www.stevenrushforth.co.uk/tyson/images/gallery/small/lose_it2.jpg
http://www.theonetwopunch.com/images/evander.jpg

I love mike,but they were both extremly ripped for this fight,not saying they were using steroids but there look was damn near perfect in each of there own ways

Benny Leonard
03-16-2007, 06:46 PM
what about frank bruno the guy was or is ****ing huge :eek:

Frank was huge, especialy in the rematch with Tyson.

I am not going to say he is or was on steroids, but like I say with anybody, "anything is possible"

His weight was a lot higher from his younger days however.

Hydro
03-16-2007, 06:50 PM
I love mike,but they were both extremly ripped for this fight,not saying they were using steroids but there look was damn near perfect in each of there own ways

Is Tyson that much more ripped against Holyfield than pre-prison?

http://www.antekprizering.com/tysonfergusonticketpic.jpeg

http://www.antekprizering.com/tysonspinksprogrampic.jpeg

http://www.bobpaceboxing.com/ProductImages/TyRudCP.jpg

http://www.antekprizering.com/tysonruddock1ppvposterpic.jpeg

Versastyle
03-16-2007, 06:51 PM
Is Tyson that much more ripped against Holyfield than pre-prison?

http://www.antekprizering.com/tysonspinksprogrampic.jpeg

http://www.bobpaceboxing.com/ProductImages/TyRudCP.jpg

http://www.antekprizering.com/tysonruddock1ppvposterpic.jpeg

**** yeah! he was totally bigger,abs showing with ease.

Benny Leonard
03-16-2007, 06:52 PM
http://www.sports-photos.com/catalog/images/HolyfieldTKOTyson2CLR.tif.jpg
http://www.stevenrushforth.co.uk/tyson/images/gallery/small/lose_it2.jpg
http://www.theonetwopunch.com/images/evander.jpg

I love mike,but they were both extremly ripped for this fight,not saying they were using steroids but there look was damn near perfect in each of there own ways

could be, but you don't need "sterods" to get your body ripped.

Mike was what in that fight, 225?

If he was 225, that would be slightly higher than when he was younger...considering DHT releases at a higher level in your body when you hit your mid-20's, and I could be wrong about this, but your muscles become more "muscular" because your strength goes up, and DHT helps with getting ripped.

Proper nutrition can help as well.

Ephedrine and other stimulants can help as well.

But yes, Steoirds are always a possibility.

Benny Leonard
03-16-2007, 06:59 PM
Allright. I'll post a pic of him when he was 13 i believe. Maybe 15 but i dont remember.

Somebody said Tyson was 13 in the first pic of this video, which I thought as well, but not sure...he is very young in the pic and I have seen this pic in documentaries when saying, "when Mike first met Cus"

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Benny Leonard
03-16-2007, 07:06 PM
This is from VH1, "Driven"

It's not letting me load up the pics so just click on the site and go to pictures...there is a pic of Mike in 8th grade, and then in his Freshman class. I wonder if Mike was left back.

http://www.vh1.com/shows/dyn/driven/74343/episode.jhtml

RockyMarcianofan00
03-16-2007, 07:18 PM
Tyson was always big, its my opinion that he was never really on Steroids..However if there is any possibility in Tyson taking steroids it would have to be later in his career..

DPR
04-15-2007, 04:22 PM
Bowe accused Golota of being on steroids during their fights. He did have pimples on his back, but I have seen plenty of people that have pimples all over their back or chest that dont take roids.

I dont think Tyson ever used them though.
bowe golota 2 is on espn right now. Golota had to be on roids. I've never seen a 28 year old have that much acne on his back, shoulders, chest, and upper arms.

DPR
04-15-2007, 04:28 PM
Bowe accused Golota of being on steroids during their fights. He did have pimples on his back, but I have seen plenty of people that have pimples all over their back or chest that dont take roids.

I dont think Tyson ever used them though.
bowe golota 2 is on espn right now. Golota had to be on roids. I've never seen a 28 year old have that much acne on his back, shoulders, chest, and upper arms.

hugh grant
04-15-2007, 04:34 PM
Tyson having used steroids is news to me. It wouldnt suprise me though when i come to think of it. Even when he was 13 or 14 as terrible as that sounds. Sportsmen will do anything for success, especailly when you come from nothing and u want to b somethin

EliteSoldier
04-15-2007, 04:48 PM
tysons always been naturally big. He had great genetics, and he knows it. When he was a kid he was big, but then tyson pushed his limits by training harder and harder and then you see he has the body type that he does now.

realheavyhands
04-15-2007, 05:58 PM
even right now hes 240 something and solid

ml2niceguy
04-15-2007, 08:47 PM
evan fields did

scottyboi07uk
10-09-2008, 06:21 PM
kind of doubt it. They do drug testing and steroids don't do a lot of boxers' mobility. Would steroids really help punching power that much anyhow? I see the logic, that yeah you're stronger so you can throw your fist harder, but I don't know if that's completely true. You'd get more bulky, which could slow your punch down.

mike tyson did do steroids, tommy morrison took steroids and don king payed ppl off to say tyson was negative for steroids holyfield also got away with this but was later reported and don king also payed ppl to give tommy morrison a false posotive for HIV because he was a threat to tysons career. When tyson was found out he said he didnt want to talk about it hes words were... "iv taken alot of things in my life but thats no bodys business and i dont wanna talk about it" These are all facts hes steroid use appariently also took place in prison but he was taking a drug called lithium at the time and lithium mixed with steroids causes major mood swings and the end result can be depression and breakdown. Before he came to cus damato he was overweight. this is often overlooked but this is from kevin rooney and teddy atlas's own mouths he was made to lift weights along with circuit training and also running this is how he leaned out but as soon as he got to cus damatos house he was put on a strict diet like everyone else this was for boxing and being healthy but that played a big part in the weight loss. him being overweight caused him to be 197lbs at the age of 13 and 14. he was put on a high protien diet to build muscle because he was made to lift weights because he was shorter and cus knew it would give tyson a different look in the ring. HE DID LIFT WEIGHTS HE AND TRAINERS HAVE CONFIRMED THIS.
but steroids isnt very effective in the sport of boxing only with hand speed. have u ever noticed for a heavyweight tyson was very very fast. he was fast as a kid but even faster afterwards. steroids also explain tysons sexual desire for women. note: im not trying to put tyson down as he will always be a boxing legend no matter what and iam a big fan of his. my findings were all fact due to extensive research

ANIMOSITY
01-06-2010, 03:41 PM
Okay here it is.

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/3471/lewislg0115xw.jpg


Remember, this is a 13 year old Mike Tyson and the other boxer on the pic is...LENNOX LEWIS!! You know how buff he was in his prime. He's nowhere near as big as Tyson in his younger days and he was also a year older.


This is proof that Tyson didn't take steroids.

tyson was double muscled
a rare genetic mutation
only one other human has it today(other than tyson) and he's about 5 years of age now