View Full Version : heavyweight turney the way it looks so far.


AintGottaClue
04-06-2005, 10:37 AM
Klitschko
Rahman



Toney
Ruiz


Golota
Brewster


Byrd
Barret (possible)

Wlad
Castillo ( winner auto gets byrd if he doesnt fight barret


how does your turney go? dotn forget to include how they win

RwK
04-06-2005, 10:39 AM
Rahman
Klitschko

Ruiz
Toney

Byrd
Barrett

Wlad
Castillo

Peter
Moorer

Golota
Brewster

Does not matter that 3 heavyweights finish in the final bracket, considering the Klitschko's will never fight eachother. Someone will vacate the title. Tyson will never be given a shot, even though I think he could make alot of fugging noise.

AintGottaClue
04-06-2005, 10:44 AM
fres is fighting moorer..

finish all of it run whos gonna be champ :p

RwK
04-06-2005, 10:49 AM
Vitali Klistchko or Haseem Rahman.

One of the two. I have no idea which one. Rock stands a better chance against VK as anyone else in the heavyweight division, and is the ONLY shot at dethroning Optimus Prime.

AintGottaClue
04-06-2005, 11:01 AM
bwhahahahah optimus prime, he aint that robotic :p.

Gerald
04-06-2005, 11:14 AM
V Klitschko beats Rahman TKO10
Toney beats Ruiz UD
Byrd beats Barrett UD
Golota beats Brewster TKO8
W Klitschko beats Castillo KO5


W Klitschko fights and beats Byrd KO7
V Klitschko fights and beats Toney UD

Golota will eventually be given a shot at one of them and might knock Wladimir out but lose to Vitali

Kimmy
04-06-2005, 01:06 PM
V Klitschko beats Rahman TKO10
Toney beats Ruiz UD
Byrd beats Barrett UD
Golota beats Brewster TKO8
W Klitschko beats Castillo KO5


W Klitschko fights and beats Byrd KO7
V Klitschko fights and beats Toney UD

Golota will eventually be given a shot at one of them and might knock Wladimir out but lose to Vitali
I agree with nearly 100% of your post. I don`t think Wlad will stop Byrd. They fought before and Wlad couldn`t do it and Wlad has lost allot of what he had from back then, he`ll win UD.
I think Golota wins on points against Brewster. Allot depends on whether Wlad can beat Castillo, maybe, but all it takes is one punch to beat Wlad so Castillo no matter how he is, stands a chance.

cupcrazy01
04-06-2005, 01:18 PM
Kimmy,

I agree with what you said about Wlad losing alot of what he had...he has lost most (if not all) of his confidence and his chin is now a huge question mark, as a stiff jab seems to rock him backward these days. However, look at what Byrd has done in his last three fights...he arguably lost all of them. I had him losing to Oquendo, but I did not see either of his last two fights--but one being a draw and one being a SD, he obviously hasn't looked great. Four fights ago he beat a shot Holyfield. His last quality win was vs. Tua in 2001.

So I do believe Wlad can not only beat him, he can stop him somewhere in the middle rounds, since Byrd has no power and his elusiveness has eroded.

I say Wlad TKO 8 Byrd

Mr. Ryan
04-06-2005, 01:21 PM
That sounds about right. I don't really care how you slice it, Vitali is going to wind up on top.

Kimmy
04-06-2005, 01:21 PM
Kimmy,

I agree with what you said about Wlad losing alot of what he had...he has lost most (if not all) of his confidence and his chin is now a huge question mark, as a stiff jab seems to rock him backward these days. However, look at what Byrd has done in his last three fights...he arguably lost all of them. I had him losing to Oquendo, but I did not see either of his last two fights--but one being a draw and one being a SD, he obviously hasn't looked great. Four fights ago he beat a shot Holyfield. His last quality win was vs. Tua in 2001.

So I do believe Wlad can not only beat him, he can stop him somewhere in the middle rounds, since Byrd has no power and his elusiveness has eroded.

I say Wlad TKO 8 Byrd
True that Byrd has looked shaky in his last few fights, maybe he`s losing it too! But Golota and McCline couldn`t stop him and Wlad isn`t his brother in the punching power department. Like you said, he hasn`t the conifidence anymore and i doubt he will be punching as well as he used to, even against feather fisted Byrd!

The Troll
04-06-2005, 07:15 PM
True that Byrd has looked shaky in his last few fights, maybe he`s losing it too! But Golota and McCline couldn`t stop him and Wlad isn`t his brother in the punching power department. Like you said, he hasn`t the conifidence anymore and i doubt he will be punching as well as he used to, even against feather fisted Byrd!

If Golota beats Brewster and Byrd wins his next fight I hope they have a rematach because Golota deserves one, I thought he one that fight clearly 8-4 or 7-5 at best. Byrd did not do **** in that fight except get pounded on the ropes, and Golota punches were hurting him bad to body and his head was all messed up at the end of the fight. Golota would have won but one of the judges actually gave round 12 to Byrd, what a screw Job, it was melvina Latham. Watch Golota vs Byrd what a joke that Latham gave round 12 to Byrd and that decided the descision. one judge had it 8-4 Golota one Judge had Byrd by 2 and Latham had it a draw because she gave Byrd the last round. Screwjob of the year 2004. Byrd was beat to **** in round 12 by Golota, Golota actually landed a bunch of punches flush to head, that is what injured Byrd's eye.

The Troll
04-06-2005, 07:18 PM
| Judge: Steve Weisfeld 115-113 Golota
| Judge: Melvina Lathan 113-115 Byrd
| Judge: Tony Paolillo 114-114 ~
IBF Heavyweight Title

Latham had Byrd ahead by 1 going into the 12th, and she gave round 12 to Byrd, worst scoring ever giving Byrd that round, that was possibly Golota's most dominating round. If she would have scored it honestly Golota would have won by Majority descision.

Anybody that has seen round 12 of Golota vs. Byrd has to realize how bad Golota was screwed by Latham. Melvina Latham is a pure tool, dishonest on somebodies payroll piece of garbage. She has no credibility at all.

The Troll
04-06-2005, 07:24 PM
Latham was (is) on the payroll of the bookies and Las Vegas casinoes because those stupid asses were posting odds like Byrd 7-1 straight wager. I had Golota at 7-1 so did alot of other people, Golota got screwed because Casinoes would have lost bigtime if she was honest. The odds dropped all the way down to 2-1 before the fight, so the casinoes knew they were in trouble posting those early 7-1ers.

Neuraxis
04-06-2005, 10:53 PM
Vitali Klistchko or Haseem Rahman.

One of the two. I have no idea which one. Rock stands a better chance against VK as anyone else in the heavyweight division, and is the ONLY shot at dethroning Optimus Prime.

Which one is Vitali?
http://www.annonline.com/interviews/961018/rockem.JPEG

Neuraxis
04-06-2005, 10:54 PM
Wlad isn`t his brother in the punching power department.

You're right Wlad hits much harder than Vitali.

joeboxer
04-06-2005, 10:54 PM
Vitali is the one on the right. obviously.

aand
04-07-2005, 11:40 AM
Rahman
Klitschko -> Vitali TKO

Ruiz
Toney -> Toney UD

Byrd
Barrett -> Byrd UD

Golota
Brewster -> Golota KO

Wlad
Castillo -> Wlad TKO

Peter
Moorer -> Peter KO
-----------------------------------------
Vitali
Toney -> Vitali UD

Byrd
Golota -> Golota UD

Wlad
Peter -> Wlad KO
----------------------------------------
Vitali
Golota -> Golota UD :crazy:
----------------------------------------
Golota
Wlad :thinking:

GranTorino
04-07-2005, 01:36 PM
V Klitschko beats Rahman TKO10
Toney beats Ruiz UD
Byrd beats Barrett UD
Golota beats Brewster TKO8
W Klitschko beats Castillo KO5


W Klitschko fights and beats Byrd KO7
V Klitschko fights and beats Toney UD

Golota will eventually be given a shot at one of them and might knock Wladimir out but lose to Vitali


That's exactly the way I have it as well.

mECHsLAVE
04-07-2005, 02:46 PM
....but all it takes is one punch to beat Wlad so...


When has Wlad ever lost because of 1 punch? I must have missed that fight. He took about 12 flush power shots from Sanders, and kept getting up. The Brewster fight had nothing to do with Brewster landing punches, Wlad was dead on his feet before he got hit with anything.

In the HW division, anyone can get KO'd with one punch, but from the fights I've seen of his (just about all the televised ones) Wlad is no more susceptible than the next fighter to getting KO'd with one shot. As a matter of fact, if you watch the Sanders fight- his chin is pretty impressive. His D totally sucks, but his chin is good to get up from all those bombs. He got right up every time including the last time. Sanders just never gave him a chance to totally recover, and Wlad didn't hang on long enough.

Other than that, when has Wlad ever been "hurt" in a fight. I didn't see him "hurt" against Brewster or Williamson.

And you also have it wrong about Wlad's punching power. For all his flaws, he is probably the hardest hitter with a single punch in the HW division right now. Mainly because of how straight he shoots his right hand and how he bends his knees to put his upper body weight behind the punch. It's a beautiful punch. Watch the Brewster knockdown (Brewster has one of the better HW chins and he knocked him silly).

Wlad has alot of flaws, stamina and defense being the main ones, but power and a chin are honestly not one of them.

AintGottaClue
04-07-2005, 02:49 PM
run do u think rahman can KO vitali with 1 punch?

AintGottaClue
04-07-2005, 02:54 PM
rahman wear vitali down liek vitlai did sanders? run remember vitali will be hitting rahman as well

RwK
04-07-2005, 02:55 PM
rahman wear vitali down liek vitlai did sanders? run remember vitali will be hitting rahman as well

Rahman will wear him down like Rahman did Sanders. (if he wins). Rahman knocked Sanders out also. VK did the same exact job, except against a washed up, old Corrie.

Lets also not get trigger happy about Rocks chin. He has survived against the likes of Tua, and Sanders, eating huge punches in the process. The left hooks Tua hit him with, were the hardest I have ever seen him throw.

Although he was decimated by some other big punchers forehand.
I will also bet 1 million points that Rock will be the aggressor in the fight. Plus, I am eagerly awaiting my boy to come out of retirement and clean out this wretched division.

AintGottaClue
04-07-2005, 03:31 PM
Rahman will wear him down like Rahman did Sanders. (if he wins). Rahman knocked Sanders out also. VK did the same exact job, except against a washed up, old Corrie.

Lets also not get trigger happy about Rocks chin. He has survived against the likes of Tua, and Sanders, eating huge punches in the process. The left hooks Tua hit him with, were the hardest I have ever seen him throw.

Although he was decimated by some other big punchers forehand.
I will also bet 1 million points that Rock will be the aggressor in the fight. Plus, I am eagerly awaiting my boy to come out of retirement and clean out this wretched division.

and vitali isnt a big puncher?

RwK
04-07-2005, 03:32 PM
and vitali isnt a big puncher?

Sigh. When did I type that?

Kid Achilles
04-07-2005, 03:42 PM
Lewis, Sanders and Tua are all bigger punchers than Vitali. Much bigger punchers. I'm with Run on this one that Rahman will give Vitali a great fight if he comes to box and not slug. Skillwise he is Vitali's best opponent since Lewis.

Although, I will be rooting for Vitali because he will be a stronger and more dominant champion overall, IMO. Rahman would be #1 in this division if only his chin lived up to his nickname.

AintGottaClue
04-07-2005, 03:48 PM
Lewis, Sanders and Tua are all bigger punchers than Vitali. Much bigger punchers.


maybe single punch, but as a recall vitali has KO'd all but 1 guy he won agaisnt, if they can KO rahman with 1-2 pucnh how is he gonna stand up to the heavy handed accumalting puncher