View Full Version : Floyd jealous of Gatti's fame?
Bombardier 04-05-2005, 08:53 AM That's the only explanation I can come up with for his sour attitude right now. I mean, not that he's ever been a saint, but he seems to freak out whenever the guy is mentioned, and can't stop telling us all how laousy a fighter Gatti and and how he's going to go and stomp him on his home turf.
I just can't figure out why this Gatti fight bugs him so much, and jealousy is the only thing I can think of. Can't seem to realize why people like Gatti. The stupid thing of it is that we all know Gatti's flaws as a fighter...pointing them out to us all seems kind of pointless.
czars_salad 04-05-2005, 09:17 AM PBF may be the better skilled fighter but Gatti is really more popular because he fights to the taste of the boxing fans.... bloody, gorish, with alot of atrocities in the ring
Truth 04-05-2005, 11:48 AM I am not saying this to be disrespectful towards Gatti or his fans but I think Mayweather is going to completley humilate him. He just has way too much for Gatti.
cupcrazy01 04-05-2005, 12:26 PM I agree, I believe he'll humiliate Gatti but with Arturo's heart, I don't think PBF has any chance of stopping him.
If anything, this fight will further enhance Gatti's legend, as he takes a beating and keeps coming forward, and even perhaps gives better than he gets in a few exchanges late, prompting Lampley to go apes**t and scream about how great Gatti is. That would really piss off Floyd, if he wins 10-2 in rounds or somesuch and still "loses" because people will talk about how tough and courageous Gatti is.
Wouldn't you be jealous if you were superior in skill to someone, but because that person had a little more charisma or "stroke", you were overlooked or bypassed for him? That's PBF's dilemma. I'd be mad, too. He just better not be so mad that he tries to trade with Arturo, because if he does, he will pay for it.
Prediction: PBF UD 12 Gatti, 10 rounds to 2. See above for details.
By "humiliate," I mean purely in a boxing sense, I do predict a great showing of heart from Gatti despite his obvious shortcomings during the fight.
jack_the_rippuh 04-05-2005, 12:35 PM I don't get what you're trying to say. Mayweather said it himself the reason he doesn't respect Gatti as a fighter is because he disrespected him. Why the hell would Gatti not want to fight Floyd Mayweather Jr. just because he didn't go to court? What does Mayweather's personal life have to do with Arturo Gatti? People say Gatti has a champion's heart, and this that...but he's been trying to dodge Mayweather for the longest. I don't know if Mayweather is jealous of Gatti's fame or not, but I know one thing...the main reason Mayweather dislikes Gatti is because Gatti disrespected him.
He just better not be so mad that he tries to trade with Arturo, because if he does, he will pay for it.
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Other way around. Gatti had better find a way to "outbox" PBF. Floyd is too hard a puncher, is too fast, and is to inept at pasting flurries on his opponents. Floyd will shock every Gatti fan in this fight IMO. He is going to knock Gatti out, or That fat beluga will throw in the towel for Gatti. Either way, Gatti is toast. And I cant wait to see him get humiliated. Plain and Simple.
Toe to Toe........Floyd easily humiliates him. Gatti must be on the move like he was against Dorin, and Leija. Or else.
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Except I wont be the least bit "Sad".
Super_Lightweight 04-05-2005, 01:14 PM People say Gatti has a champion's heart, and this that...but he's been trying to dodge Mayweather for the longest. I don't know if Mayweather is jealous of Gatti's fame or not, but I know one thing...the main reason Mayweather dislikes Gatti is because Gatti disrespected him.
That's not true at all. If Gatti was afraid, he would have found away to get out of the fight. Also, Mayweather has not even been in Gatti's weight-class that long.
Gatti avoided no one.
jack_the_rippuh 04-05-2005, 01:18 PM One world-class fighter shouldn't have to become a mandatory just to get a shot from the world champ. In a way it's not so much Gatti as it is his promoters.
Bombardier 04-05-2005, 01:21 PM I don't get what you're trying to say. Mayweather said it himself the reason he doesn't respect Gatti as a fighter is because he disrespected him. Why the hell would Gatti not want to fight Floyd Mayweather Jr. just because he didn't go to court? What does Mayweather's personal life have to do with Arturo Gatti? People say Gatti has a champion's heart, and this that...but he's been trying to dodge Mayweather for the longest. I don't know if Mayweather is jealous of Gatti's fame or not, but I know one thing...the main reason Mayweather dislikes Gatti is because Gatti disrespected him.
Yeah, but he keeps harping on how bad Gatti is as a fighter. If he was upset about that you would think that he would just call him an ******* for bringing up his personal problems. Even if that's what's bugging Floyd he looks foolish by trying to tell us all over and over how bad Gatti is as a fighter compared to him. Thing is, we all know that. All Floyd is doing with this is making himself look more like a jerk and making Gatti out to be the nice guy getting picked on by a jerk. He isn't winning anymore supporters.
Like a previous poster said, if Gatti loses bad he will probably just be praised for standing up to a guy who will be perceived as the bully. Floyd is helping to create this perception himself.
I think Floyd is a great fighter. But he is doing nothing right now but proving his critics right.
tracylee 04-05-2005, 01:22 PM That's not true at all. If Gatti was afraid, he would have found away to get out of the fight. Also, Mayweather has not even been in Gatti's weight-class that long.
Gatti avoided no one.
For real...Gatti afraid? That will be the day for sure! :eek:
Super_Lightweight 04-05-2005, 01:30 PM You are officially dropping inuendos that Gatti will win this fight at this point. arent you?
No, dude. Keep up. I said this as a point that Gatti hasn't had a chance to avoid Floyd, Floyd has no been in Gatti's weight class that long and was looking to fight Leija before Gatti.
I think Gatti can win, doesn't mean I think he will win.
Super_Lightweight 04-05-2005, 01:38 PM You threw that "Weight Class" statement in there in a decieving way.
lol...I was talking to someone else, dude. There was nothing "deceiving" about it. Just read more carefully. Jack the rippuh and I were discussing it.
jack_the_rippuh 04-05-2005, 01:52 PM My question is this. Why should someone as dominant as Floyd Mayweather have to become a mandatory to fight the champion at the weight he moved up in? I mean if it was Kostya Tszyu and Floyd Mayweather moved up in weight to challenge him you could bet any kind of money that Kostya Tszyu would have accepted that challenge and not cause any kind of problems Gatti and his people were causing. Gatti's people are cowards, I don't know where Gatti falls in all this, but I know one thing is that his people are cowards.
Super_Lightweight 04-05-2005, 01:55 PM Why should someone as dominant as Floyd Mayweather have to become a mandatory to fight the champion at the weight he moved up in? I mean if it was Kostya Tszyu and Floyd Mayweather moved up in weight to challenge him you could bet any kind of money that Kostya Tszyu would have accepted that challenge and not cause any kind of problems Gatti and his people were causing. Gatti's people are cowards, I don't know where Gatti falls in all this, but I know one thing is that his people are cowards.
That doesn't really man anything, dude. There is a proces in boxing, and Floyd hadn't really done anything in the weight class anyway. Still, Gatti has said for a while now he has been wanting to fight Floyd.
Floyd doesn't even consider Gatti a real champion anyway.
jack_the_rippuh 04-05-2005, 02:00 PM Why doesn't it mean anything? There has been times where someone from a lower weight class has moved up to challenge a champ and got the fight.
ThunderGatti 04-05-2005, 02:02 PM Gatti's people are cowards, I don't know where Gatti falls in all this, but I know one thing is that his people are cowards.
The point is Gatti is one of the biggest draws in boxing right now, period. Im sure the PPV buys will show this. This is gonna be his 6th straight sell out at Boardwalk Hall. Could you blame Pat Lynch for being concerned about Gatti wanting this fight???
Bottom line is Gatti signed for PBF on Jan 29th, PBF didnt. Gatti waited for PBF resolve his legal, and after that PBF still didnt sign. It was only when Gatti threatened to pull out of the fight and look for another fighter did PBF run like a schoolgirl to sign for the fight.
It lamens terms, Gatti dont need PBF. He wants PBF to show the world that he can take out a great fighter. Which is why he will win June 25th
jack_the_rippuh 04-05-2005, 02:09 PM The point is Gatti is one of the biggest draws in boxing right now, period. Im sure the PPV buys will show this. This is gonna be his 6th straight sell out at Boardwalk Hall. Could you blame Pat Lynch for being concerned about Gatti wanting this fight???
Bottom line is Gatti signed for PBF on Jan 29th, PBF didnt. Gatti waited for PBF resolve his legal, and after that PBF still didnt sign. It was only when Gatti threatened to pull out of the fight and look for another fighter did PBF run like a schoolgirl to sign for the fight.
It lamens terms, Gatti dont need PBF. He wants PBF to show the world that he can take out a great fighter. Which is why he will win June 25th
In that case then he's someone who fights just for the money. He doesn't care about the glory or going down in history..Sure he has exciting fights, but when two fighters who are on the same level fight each other, of course the fight is going to be a big clash. In my opinion Gatti always says it's all up to his promoters, because he knows they'll put nothing but has-beens, bums, or guys smaller than him in front of him. He would have never fought Oscar if that fight wouldn't have made him all that money.
He isn't winning anymore supporters.
I think him making fun of the punching bag, and his Beluga Whale trainer is hilarious. Gatti's people are hilarious. They are in a bind with themselves in this regard,
1.) They hope by some miracle Gatti Catches him with a punch.
2.) Are definitely going to be sad on fight night.
3.) They scratch and claw; finding every bit of speculative evidence to support their claim as to "Who the better Champ is"
4.) Will have the Nerve to say: "PBF beat up a bum" when he wins
5.) Are going to say: "PBF is Overrated" if he loses.
keep in mind. They are "Gatti Fans" LMFAO. What is even more funny: They have only seen him fight "Post Gatti-Ward". Watching him demolish a bunch of complete bums, like himself.
Bombardier 04-05-2005, 02:36 PM I think him making fun of the punching bag, and his Beluga Whale trainer is hilarious. Gatti's people are hilarious. They are in a bind with themselves in this regard,
1.) They hope by some miracle Gatti Catches him with a punch.
2.) Are definitely going to be sad on fight night.
3.) They scratch and claw; finding every bit of speculative evidence to support their claim as to "Who the better Champ is"
4.) Will have the Nerve to say: "PBF beat up a bum" when he wins
5.) Are going to say: "PBF is Overrated" if he loses.
keep in mind. They are "Gatti Fans" LMFAO. What is even more funny: They have only seen him fight "Post Gatti-Ward". Watching him demolish a bunch of complete bums, like himself.
While I agree that a lot of Gatti fans are pretty ignorant, you can't deny that Gatti has hooked up with better handlers than he had in the past and has improved his style. Keep in mind that a lot of Floyd fans have also jumped on the bandwagon recently, and have probably only seem him fight Corley and Bruseles, who are no less "bums" than Dorin and Leija.
No doubt that Gatti is the underdog, so his people are probably going to say a few silly things to pump him up a bit. Not like that's never been done before. I just don't know why Floyd's flying off the handle so much about it.
and have probably only seem him fight Corley and Bruseles, who are no less "bums" than Dorin and Leija.
I jumped on, when he knocked Hernandez out in 1998. I would not qualify for that following. But yes. You are right.
I just don't know why Floyd's flying off the handle so much about it.
he is angry at the lack of respect he is being shown through general boxing sediments of the public, concerning their favorite fighter named "Arturo Gatti". I can not blame him.
Bombardier 04-05-2005, 02:43 PM I jumped on, when he knocked Hernandez out in 1998. I would not qualify for that following. But yes. You are right.
Right, I wasn't trying to say that you in particular were a bandwagon fan, in case that's what it sounded like.
Floyd can prove that he's the better fighter when he's in the ring. Odds are, he will convincingly.
Right, I wasn't trying to say that you in particular were a bandwagon fan, in case that's what it sounded like.
Please excuse me friend. This Forum War has clouded my judgement, as well as ability to distinguish parties concerning Right, Left, and Neutral. I am sorry for implying that you were directing the statement at me. Gatti fans invaded a couple of weeks back with the "PBF WILL RUN LIKE A ***** FROM GATTI!!" thread. And since then, I have been shooting children with anything strange in their hands. War is hell, and some people simply need to fight in the trenches. I would like to assert: runningW/Bayonet's is a valid option for me at this point.
Bombardier 04-05-2005, 02:54 PM Please excuse me friend. This Forum War has clouded my judgement, as well as ability to distinguish parties concerning Right, Left, and Neutral. I am sorry for implying that you were directing the statement at me. Gatti fans invaded a couple of weeks back with the "PBF WILL RUN LIKE A ***** FROM GATTI!!" thread. And since then, I have been shooting children with anything strange in their hands. War is hell, and some people simply need to fight in the trenches.
Well, the Contras have taken to wearing yellow armbands, so that they can see each other in the dark. Turns out they were fragging too many friendlies in those nighttime raids across the thin red line.
Well, the Contras have taken to wearing yellow armbands, so that they can see each other in the dark. Turns out they were fragging too many friendlies in those nighttime raids across the thin red line.
:drillserg Shouting:
Outstanding Soldier. You are now typing like a hardened veteran who has SEEN HIS PLACE in these wars we know as hell. Civilian MRE's and Med-kits will be dispursed to all those injured by friendly fire. MARK MY WORDS SOLDIER. This army will cease fire, and refrain from fragging enemies other than CHARLIE 1.
I repeat Soldier! Charlie 2 does not qualify as a potential target! Over and Fugging out.
ThunderGatti 04-05-2005, 03:51 PM jack the ruppuh, i dont understand where that comment came from? I really dont. Gatti is probably the most unselfish boxer in the sport. Gatti fought countless wars w/ opponets like Calvin Grove, twice w/ Ivan Robinson, and Hutchinson, and 3 w/ Ward. You have to remember these were non title bouts so this = no big $!!!!
You cant blame his promters for wanting to make a buck of him, thats their job at Main Events. As for Pat Lynch, I believe his first concern is the heatlth of Arturo.
Come on man, Gatti will fight the same way for a PPV $ as he did in every other bout hes been in . Its in his blood, its about pride, that is why Gatti's fans love him. Thats why they flock in droves to see him. Unlike PBF where he can barely get 5,000 ppl at an areana.
If anybody is lookin for at this fight for $ reasons it PBF. W/out Gatti this would not be a PPV. Though good match ups how well do u think a PBF/Harris or a PBF/Witter would sell?? Not too good. Again PBF needs Gatti.
Bottom line is if anything Gatti earned this PPV.
jack_the_rippuh 04-05-2005, 04:34 PM jack the ruppuh, i dont understand where that comment came from? I really dont. Gatti is probably the most unselfish boxer in the sport. Gatti fought countless wars w/ opponets like Calvin Grove, twice w/ Ivan Robinson, and Hutchinson, and 3 w/ Ward. You have to remember these were non title bouts so this = no big $!!!!
You cant blame his promters for wanting to make a buck of him, thats their job at Main Events. As for Pat Lynch, I believe his first concern is the heatlth of Arturo.
Come on man, Gatti will fight the same way for a PPV $ as he did in every other bout hes been in . Its in his blood, its about pride, that is why Gatti's fans love him. Thats why they flock in droves to see him. Unlike PBF where he can barely get 5,000 ppl at an areana.
If anybody is lookin for at this fight for $ reasons it PBF. W/out Gatti this would not be a PPV. Though good match ups how well do u think a PBF/Harris or a PBF/Witter would sell?? Not too good. Again PBF needs Gatti.
Bottom line is if anything Gatti earned this PPV.
The only reason they were wars is because they were against bums.
ThunderGatti 04-05-2005, 04:44 PM It dont matter man. you still dont understand. But whatever, you call Gatti out on one thing I explain it, then you change the subject. Reguardless You dont like the man I dont like PBF. I guess we should just leave it at that.
check the news man your boy seems hes gettin nervous...still runnin his mouth but nobody is listenin...get ready to be surprised on June 25.
Red_Menace 04-05-2005, 04:58 PM Gatti has been saying, in interview that he wanted to fight Floyd Mayweather Jr. even before he fought Mickey Ward. Gatti has been looking for this fight for a long time. I don't think Gatti has been trying to dodge him. That's what Mayweather is saying, but I don't think it's true. I think it's an attempt to make Gatti look bad, because Mayweather knows he's not as popular as Gatti. Gatti's camp said they were going to look for a new fight because Mayweather's camp couldn't get its act together. Mayweather got his problems sorted out, and now they're fighting. So, what's the big dilemna? Mayweather is not dodging Gatti. Gatti is not dodging Mayweather. The fight is signed and they will both give it their best. People have taken this boxer favouritism too far. Actually, it's taken too far in every sport.
dansweeney 04-05-2005, 05:44 PM I don't get what you're trying to say. Mayweather said it himself the reason he doesn't respect Gatti as a fighter is because he disrespected him. Why the hell would Gatti not want to fight Floyd Mayweather Jr. just because he didn't go to court? What does Mayweather's personal life have to do with Arturo Gatti? People say Gatti has a champion's heart, and this that...but he's been trying to dodge Mayweather for the longest. I don't know if Mayweather is jealous of Gatti's fame or not, but I know one thing...the main reason Mayweather dislikes Gatti is because Gatti disrespected him.
Mayweather is a little puke, nobody cares if he goes 100-0 dude, seriously, i wish they were street fighting so gatti could play basketball with his ugly little head, mayweather is nothing, he cant sell tickets, he has about 3 fans, and he beats women, i hope he dies in the ring
dansweeney 04-05-2005, 05:49 PM The only reason they were wars is because they were against bums.
at least they were men he was fighting, i hear mayweather is ducking laila ali because apparently thats one chick who will actually punch him back
is ducking laila ali because apparently thats one chick who will actually punch him back
I think she would have some trouble with his lateral movement, hand-speed and punching power. That is just what I think. One could actually make the case that PBF would knock Layla out.
That is just my opinion.
And if Gatti wore a dress.......You could not tell him or Layla apart IMO. That Byotch.
dansweeney 04-05-2005, 06:05 PM I think she would have some trouble with his lateral movement, hand-speed and punching power. That is just what I think. One could actually make the case that PBF would knock Layla out.
That is just my opinion.
And if Gatti wore a dress.......You could not tell him or Layla apart IMO. That Byotch.
i would still have to give her the old "punchers chance" though
USA4LIFE 04-08-2005, 04:41 PM I love Gatti, I hope he KTFO of FLoyd, but the funny thing is that most Gatti fans know thet floyd has better boxing skills, the funnir thing is that if floyd humiliated Gatti during their fight he wont be able to break his heart and spirit like he wants to, if anything Gatti will be more respected and floyd, well floyd will NEVER get the respect that he thinks he deserves, which he doesn't.
Gatti by KO ALL THE WAY!!!
jack_the_rippuh 04-08-2005, 04:52 PM I love Gatti, I hope he KTFO of FLoyd, but the funny thing is that most Gatti fans know thet floyd has better boxing skills, the funnir thing is that if floyd humiliated Gatti during their fight he wont be able to break his heart and spirit like he wants to, if anything Gatti will be more respected and floyd, well floyd will NEVER get the respect that he thinks he deserves, which he doesn't.
Gatti by KO ALL THE WAY!!!
Why doesn't he deserve the respect he thinks he deserves?
loangunZ 04-08-2005, 05:09 PM The only reason they were wars is because they were against bums.
I think gatti made them all wars he had the ability I think to box circles around ward and others. They all could have been easy fight but I think his pride got in the war and he willingly got into wars.
loangunZ 04-08-2005, 05:13 PM Why doesn't he deserve the respect he thinks he deserves?
I'm a gatti fan but there is no way you can't show respect for Mayweather his hand speed and quickness are amazing. I wonder if he is going to try and KO gatt how his hands will hold up because I heard he doesn't punch with his full power because they are pjrone to breaking.
Konstantin 04-08-2005, 05:16 PM Floyd already has the respect, hes rated 2/3 lb for lb in most lists...
Alpha Male 04-08-2005, 07:08 PM I love Gatti, I hope he KTFO of FLoyd, but the funny thing is that most Gatti fans know thet floyd has better boxing skills, the funnir thing is that if floyd humiliated Gatti during their fight he wont be able to break his heart and spirit like he wants to, if anything Gatti will be more respected and floyd, well floyd will NEVER get the respect that he thinks he deserves, which he doesn't.
Gatti by KO ALL THE WAY!!!
So what if he doesn't break his heart and spirit, as long as Floyd breaks his jaw or nose. IMO, you know that Gatti will lose this fight, but you won't admit it. That's understandable. However, when Gatti loses his fight, he will be known as a great fighter with so much heart, determination, and spirit, but can't beat the elite fighters. :boxing:
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