View Full Version : Joe C and J Lacy in the works!


TyrantT316
04-04-2005, 12:21 PM
*********.com

We need more guys like Lacy willing to fight ANYBODY...this kid is hungry and props to Joe C for wanting to take this fight as well. Supposedly, this fight will most likely be made for September assuming Joe C beats Veit next month.

Lacy by TKO midway through...

dansweeney
04-04-2005, 12:22 PM
lacy by savage ko in 2

AintGottaClue
04-04-2005, 12:37 PM
Joe C will back out

eden
04-04-2005, 12:41 PM
doubt fight will happen cos calzaghe has been stugglin to make weight

{BrownBomber}
04-04-2005, 01:17 PM
Go Lacey! He is one cool brotha. :boxing:

SnoopySmurf
04-04-2005, 01:22 PM
You're talking about Joe Calzaghe? Isn't he Hudini's great great grandson? He's been escaping from big fights all his life.

Gsand
04-04-2005, 01:46 PM
Joe Calzaghe? Unification???

No, surely not.

In all seriousness if this takes place it should be a good fight...depends how calzaghe gets on in his next fight...he looked quite crap in the last fight although he did win by a mile...

HayeFan
04-04-2005, 01:46 PM
Where's Sactown at?

If you read this, I'll bet you your avatar for 3 months that Calzaghe beats him if the fight comes off.

I hope I haven't confused you with another poster (my apologies if I have), but wasn't it you who was *****ing about Joe not so long ago?

Here's your chance to put your money where your mouth is, so to speak.

Do you accept?

cupcrazy01
04-04-2005, 01:50 PM
You're talking about Joe Calzaghe? Isn't he Hudini's great great grandson? He's been escaping from big fights all his life.


BINGO!

I give this fight a 15% chance of happening, and a 90% chance that if it does, it's overseas...

I love the prospect of Lacy-Calzaghe, and I've never seen Joe C. fight...but Lacy is exciting, though he has many holes in his game (if Rubin Williams had ANYTHING, Lacy would have been in HUGE trouble)...

Being an optimist and saying this fight happens, I say Lacy wins via late stoppage, but I reserve the right to amend that prediction if I can get some tape on Joe C...

Tha Greatest
04-04-2005, 01:59 PM
I hope Lacy knocks his head off and shows him what a bum Joe is

I hope he just beats the **** out of Joe

Calzaghe talks a lot of ****

Super_Lightweight
04-04-2005, 02:05 PM
Lacy has shows that at least he is willing to fight anybody.

Joe C. has shown he is willing to fight England vs whoever the ABC's tell him to.

If this fight comes off, it would be a good thing. It's been debated whether or not Joe C. has been part of a good thing in his career or not.

If this fight does happen I don't expect Lacy to KO him in 2, whoever said that. Joe C. is better than that, and Lacy might be overrated anyway.

NiGe2011
04-04-2005, 02:05 PM
Based on Joey's record in the ring and Warren's history of matching up his guys (until Hatton was sent to the slaughter against Kostya) I would say there is NO WAY this fight is actually going to happen. Lacy is too good and there is no way that Warren is gonna risk both of his prized ponies getting KO'ed. Look for Calzaghe to be fighting me sometime later next month instead (and I will be weighing in at a dainty 150 pounds...)

bigdlb12
04-04-2005, 02:10 PM
I want to see this fight bad, I like lacy, we need more guys like him

HayeFan
04-04-2005, 02:12 PM
Based on Joey's record in the ring and Warren's history of matching up his guys (until Hatton was sent to the slaughter against Kostya) I would say there is NO WAY this fight is actually going to happen. Lacy is too good and there is no way that Warren is gonna risk both of his prized ponies getting KO'ed. Look for Calzaghe to be fighting me sometime later next month instead (and I will be weighing in at a dainty 150 pounds...)

If this fight goes sour, it will be on Lacy.

Lacy's an enthusiastic young fighter. I think the fight goes ahead.

HayeFan
04-04-2005, 02:14 PM
This is all assuming Joe beats Veit again.

Who knows how far Joe's slipped considering his opposition of late ;)

Super_Lightweight
04-04-2005, 02:22 PM
According to ********* Joe wants the fight as does Warren...that could be BS but that's what they say and if they don't follow through at least we will know who is to blame.

Words out of Warren's mouth saying Joe WILL fight Lacy if he gets by Veit in May.

Kimmy
04-04-2005, 02:26 PM
Appartently its true. I spoke to my friend at Sports net today, its on! Joe`s been told appartently that if he backs out of this fight he`s finished. Joe has two fights left on his contract and if he messes Frank around he wil not get another. This fight will happen ( providing neither is defeated in the mandatory fights).
Lacy WILL come to England and fight. Calzaghe has been told ( humorous i thought) NOT to get injured!
There was speculation that this fight was set a few weeks ago. i thought Joe would pull out etc... but he hasn`t much as, get this, Lacy wants the fight bad and is willing to give up home advantage.
Prediction? As much as i hate his attitude i can not deny what i`ve seen. Calzaghe, when on form is sensational. IF...the Calzaghe shows up that beat Chris Eubank, Lacy will be destoryed. However, Joe hasn`t been on form in yrs, but this fight might motivate him.
It`ll be a war but the speed and power of Calzaghe should carry him to a UD win, If he hasn`t slipped!

RwK
04-04-2005, 02:26 PM
. Joe C. is better than that, and Lacy might be overrated anyway.

How can he be overrated when he has fought better competition than Joe Calzaghe, as well as looked impressive against Williams: and did what I doubt Joe could do: Stop Vanderpool. If anything it is the other way around.

Joe C is overrated Lacy is Underrated to the Max. Mario Veit is the only name opponent Joe has faced: And he sucks balls at that.

scap
04-04-2005, 02:29 PM
Lacy is great for the sport, Joe is not a guy that most would call out.

Now Joe is not all too blame for the lack of big fights, Hopkins pulled out of a 3 fight deal that would have ended with Calzaghe so we can be fairer to the welshman.

As for Lacy walking thru him in two..that is absolutely ridiculous, Joe will easily be the toughest fight of Lacy's young career.

Keep in mind that Lacy struggled against a guy like Omar Shieka and Joe blew Shieka away.

This is the fight of the year, both men are big dudes that only know one way to fight and that is to brawl.

I like Calzaghe in this one but it is a u pickem fight.

Again this fight is guaranteed to be the fight of the year!

Super_Lightweight
04-04-2005, 02:32 PM
How can he be overrated when he has fought better competition than Joe Calzaghe, as well as looked impressive against Williams: and did what I doubt Joe could do: Stop Vanderpool. If anything it is the other way around.

Lacy is overrated by some people, that's a fact. He is not the 2nd coming yet. He has shown that he is very easy to hit and very willing to get hit. He has been outboxed at times by "lesser" fighters. Lacy is not an invinceable destroyer like some would make him out to be.

He is good and can beat Calzaghe, but if you think Joe is going down in 2 rounds then you are one of the people overrating Lacy and you have no knowledge of Calzaghe.

I think their competition is pretty equal. Lacy has fought Sheika and Vanderpool and Joe has fought Sheika and Mitchell. Byron Mitchell is as good as anyone Lacy has faced.

I'm from the USA by the way, bud. ;)

RwK
04-04-2005, 02:33 PM
As for Lacy walking thru him in two..that is absolutely ridiculous, Joe will easily be the toughest fight of Lacy's young career.


I dont think so. I think Syd Vanderpool was. That was the biggest accomplishment at middleweight by anyone since Hopkins beating Tito.

RwK
04-04-2005, 02:36 PM
I think their competition is pretty equal. Lacy has fought Sheika and Vanderpool and Joe has fought Sheika and Mitchell. Byron Mitchell is as good as anyone Lacy has faced.

I ;)

Wtf are you talking about? Lacy has fought way better competition. You are actually saying Byron Mitchell is as good as Syd Vanderpool?

Reuben Williams is a better fighter than anyone Calzaghe has ever faced. Including Joe himself.

I refuse to engage in this discussion further.

Super_Lightweight
04-04-2005, 02:38 PM
Lacy has fought way better competition. You are actually saying Byron Mitchell is as good as Syd Vanderpool.

Yes. Mitchell was as good as Syd, easy, maybe better. Watch Mitchell and look at his resume compared to Pool's. This is not hard to see.

"Lacy has fought way better competition."

April Fool's Day is over, bud.

The Troll
04-04-2005, 02:47 PM
Wtf are you talking about? Lacy has fought way better competition. You are actually saying Byron Mitchell is as good as Syd Vanderpool?

Reuben Williams is a better fighter than anyone Calzaghe has ever faced. Including Joe himself.

I refuse to engage in this discussion further.

Rueben Williams was one bad ass fighter against Lacy he was taking alot of punishment in that fight but I still think the ref stopped the fight way premature. He should have given Williams and 8 count not just stopped it. Williams legs and everything were fine at the point the fight was stopped.

Reuben Williams, if he fights like he did against Lacy in every fight can go places in boxing for sure, he has a cool style and is crackin counterpuncher and jabber.

RwK
04-04-2005, 02:51 PM
Rueben Williams was one bad ass fighter.

Yes he is. And relatively unknown as far as the supermiddle/middleweight picture is concerned. Calzaghe should face him, because I do not think he is ready even at this late stage of his career to face a tenacious opponent like Lacy.

Super_Lightweight
04-04-2005, 02:58 PM
Yes he is. And relatively unknown as far as the supermiddle/middleweight picture is concerned. Calzaghe should face him, because I do not think he is ready even at this late stage of his career to face a tenacious opponent like Lacy.

Maybe he isn't. However, don't overrate R. Williams. He has beaten NO ONE. He has never faced or beaten a top 10 fighter. He doesn't seem to be a bad fighter, but he hasn't proved he is top 10 yet either.

Reid, Sheika, Vanderpool, Lucas, Beyer, Green, Lacy, Joe C. are all better and have resumes to prove it.

Reuben Williams is a better fighter than anyone Calzaghe has ever faced. Including Joe himself.

That's just flat-out not true. Reid, Sheika, and Mitchell could beat Williams. Calzaghe's opposition isn't great, but he could wax a guy like Williams. Joe took out Sheika quick fast in a hurry in 5 rds and Sheika went the distance with Lacy 4 years after Joe C. took him out.

RwK
04-04-2005, 03:17 PM
. Joe took out Sheika quick fast in a hurry in 5 rds and Sheika went the distance with Lacy 4 years after Joe C. took him out.


Those types of comparisons are worthless for this reason:

Joppy went the distance with Hopkins

He got obliterated by Tito

Following your logic you always use, that would mean
Tito>Hopkins which is simply not true. It makes no sense to me. I think Ruben Williams is a better fighter than anyone Calzaghe has ever faced, and I could care less about "records". They are proving meaningless every single day in boxing.

Look at John Ruiz.

Super_Lightweight
04-04-2005, 03:38 PM
Those types of comparisons are worthless for this reason:

No, it is not worthless when used in conjunction with other facts. Sheika is just one example of a common respected opponent both have fought. That is just one part of my argument. Calzaghe also beat Mitchell by stoppage who was a respected and powerful champion. Williams stepped up and got beat twice in fights where he tried to fight guys better than him.

I think Ruben Williams is a better fighter than anyone Calzaghe has ever faced, and I could care less about "records". They are proving meaningless every single day in boxing.

You can think that all you want, but you'll be hard pressed to find many people to agree with you because it is not based on good evidence.

SacTown1
04-04-2005, 03:40 PM
GEEZ GUYS, yet another thread discussing a fight with a 99.999% chance of NEVER happening....a fight being "in the works" or "being discussed" is media spin-doctor garbage, and for the 1st time I think both sides DON'T want the fight, Lacy is too young for a unification vs. a seasoned vet, and Calzone won't fight anybody with a pulse....this fight won't happen anytime soon, if it does well then shame on me for being negative and I'll see ya at the fight, but IMO this fight won't go down this calendar year

Kimmy
04-04-2005, 03:48 PM
Those types of comparisons are worthless for this reason:

Joppy went the distance with Hopkins

He got obliterated by Tito

Following your logic you always use, that would mean
Tito>Hopkins which is simply not true. It makes no sense to me. I think Ruben Williams is a better fighter than anyone Calzaghe has ever faced, and I could care less about "records". They are proving meaningless every single day in boxing.

Look at John Ruiz.

Apart from two flash knockdowns Joe hasn`t lost more than 4 rounds in any fight ( spare the Robin Reid fight and Reid`s good ).
He has fought bad opponents at times but has beaten them all.
Of world class fighters he has beaten he has performed at his best!
Charles Brewer ( nearly a shut out )
Omar Shieka ( destoryed )
Robin Reid ( close split dec )
Richie Woodhall ( TKO 10 )
Mario Viet ( KO within two mins )
Byron Mitchell ( 2nd rd KO )
Chris Eubank ( wide UD win )

Fact is Joe is a puncher and incredibly fast. He is the type of fighter that lifts his game if the opponent is world class. Lacy will be the, in my opinion, the second best opponent of his career and with the IBF title, world recoginition, and the break through fight all on the line i think Joe will meet the challenge. The bigger the fight, the better the performance. Joe KO`ed Viet quickly in one round, probably go the distance in the rematch only for Joe to dominate Lacy. I don`t like Calzaghe, his attitiude stinks but he is a great fighter on his day. Truly has lightneing fast speed and deadly power. Look at his wins against Mitchell and Sheika! When he is up for it he does perform. I hope, like everyone this fight is signed ( rumor is that it has been signed but yet to comfirm ) and we get to see who is the best. Lacy hasn`t fought better guys. He has fought good guys but Sheika shouldn`t have been able to do the things he did to Lacy. There are serious flaws there and untill someone can prove Calzaghe has one major flaw i`ll back him to win this fight.

Kimmy
04-04-2005, 03:52 PM
I'll see ya at the fight, but IMO this fight won't go down this calendar year
Maybe not this year but after Viet, Calzaghe has no choice. The offer stands and if he doesn`t take it the English boxing outfit Skysports have claimed they will have nothing to do with him! Its either fight Lacy, or retire!

RwK
04-04-2005, 03:56 PM
Lacy will be the, in my opinion, the second best opponent of his career and with the IBF title.

I can see how you and Super_Lightweight can defend him, both of you have good points: but exactly who is the best opponent: If Lacy is the second best that Calzaghe has faced.

This seems to be the biggest Agree to Disagree topic on the forums as of late. "Exactly, who is the best Super-Middleweight". I think it is Lacy. Die hard boxing critics and writers were impressed by his win over Vanderpool, which surpasses any win Calzaghe has ever tallied. Vanderpool is a tank, and Lacy bulled over him.

My point being: aside from these comparisons.

How in the hell can Joe deal with Lacy's tenacity and punching power? This guy is a force. Joe has never been in the ring with someone of this caliber. I would NEVER buy otherwise.

You guys do have points concerning "Lacy V.S. Calzaghe better career?"

but "Lacy V.S. Calzaghe who wins?" is another story.

Neuraxis
04-04-2005, 04:03 PM
This fight will never happen.

Kimmy
04-04-2005, 04:11 PM
but "Lac Jones. y V.S. Calzaghe who wins?" is another story.
Look at the natural atributes. Lacy
gets hit way more than Calzaghe, Calzaghe gets hit when he is bored. His hand speed is second at this weight only to prime Roy Jones. Lacy, although a very good fighter, hasn`t beaten anyone who has the skill of Calzaghe. i wish i had Calzaghe`s early fights on download then you could see. When presented with a challenge he is like watching Roy Jones with 4 times the power.
The guy has never been troubled, apart from a flash knockdown, in the ring. hardly lost a round even. Lacy has shown weakness in defence and has allowed himself to fall behind on scorecards only to come back latter. This against medium opponents. The class difference is evident and I prey this fight happens. Calzaghe deserves a big fight, once and for all a chance to prove it. Any kinda win over Lacy would grant him the acclaim he wants. It needs to happen, and if Joe loses, i`ll hold my hand up ( i don`t think that will happen ) but both fighters can produce a great fight and a conclusive answer to the best super mddleweight in the world!

HayeFan
04-04-2005, 04:31 PM
Sactown, I said IF the fight happens, now follow through on your **** talking, take the bet.

Runw/knives - You've cheered me right up, your goofy 'schtick' just levelled me. By the way, stop avoiding our bet, do you take it or not (O'Neil Bell vs David Haye)?

SacTown1
04-04-2005, 04:40 PM
Sactown, I said IF the fight happens, now follow through on your **** talking, take the bet.

Runw/knives - You've cheered me right up, your goofy 'schtick' just levelled me. By the way, stop avoiding our bet, do you take it or not (O'Neil Bell vs David Haye)?
Follow thru and take the bet? What bet? Am I getting paid to be here? I don't play geeky gambling games that have no $ involved, I'll see you at the Mandalay sportsbook and we can talk "bets" there, I don't fake gamble online or play Magic cards or D & D or any other foney-baloney games, I just love to trash-talk on post sites....

IF the fight happens? It WON'T, let's keep arguing Bowe-Lewis, Tyson-Bowe, Pryor-Sugar Ray, and every other make-believe fight that won't happen

welcome to harsh reality homey

elveiel
04-04-2005, 04:43 PM
Shame as usual :rolleyes:

Picking an untested fighter like Lacy to murder a super fast, power punching, unbeaten world champion with 15 title defence's is unreal!! :D

Calzaghe's ruled the division for years and the only reason he's not recognised is because he hasnt fought in the US. You only have to look at the fighters he's beaten to know that.

I'll bet someone 50,000,000 points that Calzaghe beats Lacy if they fight this year.

SacTown1
04-04-2005, 04:43 PM
Maybe not this year but after Viet, Calzaghe has no choice. The offer stands and if he doesn`t take it the English boxing outfit Skysports have claimed they will have nothing to do with him! Its either fight Lacy, or retire!
SkySports will support anybody with European blood, a physique, and a pulse.....Joey Calzone can fight truck drivers for 10 more years and still stay on TV in the UK, that's exactly why he WON'T fight a guy like Lacy, who is still inexperienced but has a legit shot to beat Calzone

SacTown1
04-04-2005, 04:46 PM
Shame as usual :rolleyes:

Picking an untested fighter like Lacy to murder a super fast, power punching, unbeaten world champion with 15 title defence's is unreal!! :D

Calzaghe's ruled the division for years and the only reason he's not recognised is because he hasnt fought in the US. You only have to look at the fighters he's beaten to know that.

I'll bet someone 50,000,000 points that Calzaghe beats Lacy if they fight this year.
15 WBO title defenses + 99 cents = 1 cup of coffee

dominating the 168 pound division is like saying that you were the greatest home-run hitter in Little League history

Calzone is the best at 168, I could never refute that fact, but it's by FAR the weakest division with the weakest competition, and Calzone has fought the worst of the worst for years now, all US fans know that Byron Mitchell and Charles Brewer were horrible, only UK fans saw those guys as legit contenders

Tha Greatest
04-04-2005, 04:48 PM
15 WBO title defenses + 99 cents = 1 cup of coffee

dominating the 168 pound division is like saying that you were the greatest home-run hitter in Little League history

Calzone is the best at 168, I could never refute that fact, but it's by FAR the weakest division with the weakest competition, and Calzone has fought the worst of the worst for years now, all US fans know that Byron Mitchell and Charles Brewer were horrible, only UK fans saw those guys as legit contenders


We'll see how overrated he is when he gets knocked out by jeff lacy

HayeFan
04-04-2005, 04:49 PM
Follow thru and take the bet? What bet? Am I getting paid to be here? I don't play geeky gambling games that have no $ involved, I'll see you at the Mandalay sportsbook and we can talk "bets" there, I don't fake gamble online or play Magic cards or D & D or any other foney-baloney games, I just love to trash-talk on post sites....

IF the fight happens? It WON'T, let's keep arguing Bowe-Lewis, Tyson-Bowe, Pryor-Sugar Ray, and every other make-believe fight that won't happen

welcome to harsh reality homey

That's what I thought, Sacless

HayeFan
04-04-2005, 04:51 PM
Run, I didn't see a reply, and I never check my messages. Cool, I'll add you to my sig.

Tha Greatest
04-04-2005, 04:53 PM
That's what I thought, Sacless

Don't talk **** bout my town

SacTown1
04-04-2005, 04:54 PM
That's what I thought, Sacless
Daddy's little girl has got some funny jokes

SacLESS? For not doing worthless betting? Dude I honestly don't even know how the betting system works on this site, I'm too busy making $ here at work and/or trash-talking with some and agreeing with others, it's all in good fun don't get so sissy-sensitive about my posts

HayeFan
04-04-2005, 04:55 PM
We'll see how overrated he is when he gets knocked out by jeff lacy

Overrated? He's overrated. Is that what you'll be saying when Lacy crumples on the canvas?

SacTown1
04-04-2005, 04:55 PM
Don't talk **** bout my town
HEY ThaGreatest: You going to the Eric Regan fight on the 21st at Arco? If he wins he'll most likely fight Vargas this Summer back at Arco...

If these cats knew about Sacramento they wouldn't be fakin and frontin from overseas, SacTown is the Mactown

Tha Greatest
04-04-2005, 04:56 PM
Overrated? He's overrated. Is that what you'll be saying when Lacy crumples on the canvas?


Just wait.....I'll make a bet wit u but i gotta go now so give me a PM

HayeFan
04-04-2005, 04:58 PM
Don't talk **** bout my town

I wasn't talking **** about your town. I was implying that SacTown was all talk and no balls, if you read something into Sacrimento and Scrote then that's your bad :D

Kimmy
04-04-2005, 04:59 PM
Pleassssssssse, stay on the subject. The fact is IF Calzaghe Vs lacy is signed, which is probable because Calzaghe being pressured into the fight, who win? Calzaghe hasn`t shown he can lose a fight but Lacy has shown weakness` in fights against lesser fighters.

Stickman
04-04-2005, 05:01 PM
Where's Sactown at?

If you read this, I'll bet you your avatar for 3 months that Calzaghe beats him if the fight comes off.

I hope I haven't confused you with another poster (my apologies if I have), but wasn't it you who was *****ing about Joe not so long ago?

Here's your chance to put your money where your mouth is, so to speak.

Do you accept?

If he's smart, he won't take that bet. Calzaghe is too experienced, has too much power, and is too quick for Lacy. Like I said above....Joe by 6th round KO.

Stickman
04-04-2005, 05:01 PM
*********.com

We need more guys like Lacy willing to fight ANYBODY...this kid is hungry and props to Joe C for wanting to take this fight as well. Supposedly, this fight will most likely be made for September assuming Joe C beats Veit next month.

Lacy by TKO midway through...
I like Lacy, but he's not going to beat Calzaghe.

If the fight does happen, I'll be putting some cash on Joe for a 6th round KO win.

HayeFan
04-04-2005, 05:02 PM
Daddy's little girl has got some funny jokes

SacLESS? For not doing worthless betting? Dude I honestly don't even know how the betting system works on this site, I'm too busy making $ here at work and/or trash-talking with some and agreeing with others, it's all in good fun don't get so sissy-sensitive about my posts

You wont accept the bet, which means you aint so sure about Lacy. If you're going to bad mouth a fighter then at least have the courage of your convictions. Lacy's a decent test for anyone, and if you believed half the shat you yack then you'd have said 'Damn straight, I'll take the bet!'

No problem, you dont have to bet with me :D

SacTown1
04-04-2005, 05:03 PM
Pleassssssssse, stay on the subject. The fact is IF Calzaghe Vs lacy is signed, which is probable because Calzaghe being pressured into the fight, who win? Calzaghe hasn`t shown he can lose a fight but Lacy has shown weakness` in fights against lesser fighters.
Yes mother, I'll stay on the subject (as if the subject even matters anymore, it's a pointless circular argument about a make-believe fight that'll never happen, there's your "subject" sugar)

SacTown1
04-04-2005, 05:04 PM
I won't accept the bet because I DON'T FAKE BET, please read the entire post, I live in reality, have fun in your fantasy world, meet me at Mandalay with your check book and we'll talk bets

HayeFan
04-04-2005, 05:12 PM
I won't accept the bet because I DON'T FAKE BET, please read the entire post, I live in reality, have fun in your fantasy world, meet me at Mandalay with your check book and we'll talk bets

Shat and more shat.

elveiel
04-04-2005, 05:13 PM
15 WBO title defenses + 99 cents = 1 cup of coffee

dominating the 168 pound division is like saying that you were the greatest home-run hitter in Little League history

Calzone is the best at 168, I could never refute that fact, but it's by FAR the weakest division with the weakest competition, and Calzone has fought the worst of the worst for years now, all US fans know that Byron Mitchell and Charles Brewer were horrible, only UK fans saw those guys as legit contenders

People say supermiddle is really weak but they rank Bernard Hopkins at number 1 P4P when he fights in an equally weak division, wtf is that about?? the only difference i see is that Calzgahe's fights in the UK and Hopkins fights in America. Hopkins even backed out of the Calzaghe fight, LMAO :D

Before Calzaghe faced Mitchell and Brewer fans were saying he'd get beat, exactly the same as they are now, people will say the same thing when Lacy gets beat. The untested/not ready excuses will come out

I'm picking this fight on style's and proven top level ability, so Calzaghe's obviously my choice.

RwK
04-04-2005, 05:14 PM
Sactown1 is ****ing cool as hell. :)

Kimmy
04-04-2005, 05:19 PM
People say supermiddle is really weak but they rank Bernard Hopkins at number 1 P4P when he fights in an equally weak division, wtf is that about?? the only difference i see is that Calzgahe's fights in the UK and Hopkins fights in America. Hopkins even backed out of the Calzaghe fight, LMAO :D

Before Calzaghe faced Mitchell and Brewer fans were saying he'd get beat, exactly the same as they are now, people will say the same thing when Lacy gets beat. The untested/not ready excuses will come out

I'm picking this fight on style's and proven top level ability, so Calzaghe's obviously my choice.
I agree 100%. Calzaghe is a man for the moment. He performs to his opponent. I feel Calzaghe will explode on Lacy, much like he did with Chris Eubank. If Calzaghe can do a number on Lacy what then? Probably the press will claim Lacy had only a few fights and wasn`t ready. If the fight is made someone post a disclaimer stating that IF Lacy loses, that he was fully prepared for the fight and the only reason for the loss is that he wasn`t as good but before the loss he was the best super middle!

SacTown1
04-04-2005, 05:20 PM
Sactown1 is ****ing cool as hell. :)
Runs W/ Knives, you're big-pimpin as well my friend, thanx for the luv & see you at the fights....

It's so funny how people get so damn serious about this trash talk, it's all pointless harmless humor, but the UK fans thrive on tabloid phony nonsense so I milk it for all it's worth

elveiel
04-04-2005, 05:35 PM
Runs W/ Knives, you're big-pimpin as well my friend, thanx for the luv & see you at the fights....

It's so funny how people get so damn serious about this trash talk, it's all pointless harmless humor, but the UK fans thrive on tabloid phony nonsense so I milk it for all it's worth

:D

US fans thinking Hopkins is still or ever was P4P number 1 aint kidding themselves, LMFAO!! He run from someone who most UK fans consider an average fighter.

I really hope Calzaghe fights Lacy, it will prove you or me wrong.

SacTown1
04-04-2005, 05:42 PM
:D

US fans thinking Hopkins is still or ever was P4P number 1 aint kidding themselves, LMFAO!! He run from someone who most UK fans consider an average fighter.

I really hope Calzaghe fights Lacy, it will prove you or me wrong.
He won't prove me wrong, I've had Floyd as #1 p4p for a couple years now....Hopkins made his rep from the Felix and Oscar fights, tht's why he gets the #1 ranking pretty often, there's no other fighter who has a better hit-list than Bernard or Floyd at the moment

HayeFan
04-04-2005, 05:43 PM
I seem to be getting a bit bet-happy lately, so I'll get back to the post's original question posed.

I see Lacy starting the fight cautiously. He'll give Calzaghe the respect he's due, Lacy's not stupid. Joe will outwork Lacy without making a dent. A feel out round for both fighters.

Lacy will grow more confident through the second and third, possibly winning the rounds on aggression. At some stage Lacy's vaunted left will land cleanly, we may see Calzaghe wobbled or dropped. It's then that we'll see what Lacy's made of. I've never seen a fighter become as motivated when hurt as Calzaghe, if Lacy doesn't use the opportunity effectively enough, it WILL be his undoing.

I think Lacy knows Calzaghe is underrated in the states, I dont think he'll take this fight lightly. If he does, he's in for a short, blunt shock.

Joe will trade with him when the end comes. Lacy will be dizzy with the steady flow of cuffing to blistering haymakers raining in on him. Round 6 - 8 Calzaghe TKO.

Lacy will be flattened, not wobbled, flattened. Calzaghe has years of pent up venom stored away for a fight like this. He's gonna be seeing Bernard Hopkins, Sven Ottke, Glen Johnson and Roy Jones all rolled into one in the face of Jeff Lacy, poor ... poor Jeff.

For my money Reid is also going to upset Andrade. Reid is a class above when he's facing a fighter who'll willfully engage with him. He has looked a lesser fighter of late, but I still think he has enough left for Andrade.

SacTown1
04-04-2005, 05:48 PM
I seem to be getting a bit bet-happy lately, so I'll get back to the post's original question posed.

I see Lacy starting the fight cautiously. He'll give Calzaghe the respect he's due, Lacy's not stupid. Joe will outwork Lacy without making a dent. A feel out round for both fighters.

Lacy will grow more confident through the second and third, possibly winning the rounds on aggression. At some stage Lacy's vaunted left will land cleanly, we may see Calzaghe wobbled or dropped. It's then that we'll see what Lacy's made of. I've never seen a fighter become as motivated when hurt as Calzaghe, if Lacy doesn't use the opportunity effectively enough, it WILL be his undoing.

I think Lacy knows Calzaghe is underrated in the states, I dont think he'll take this fight lightly. If he does, he's in for a short, blunt shock.

Joe will trade with him when the end comes. Lacy will be dizzy with the steady flow of cuffing to blistering haymakers raining in on him. Round 6 - 8 Calzaghe TKO.

Lacy will be flattened, not wobbled, flattened. Calzaghe has years of pent up venom stored away for a fight like this. He's gonna be seeing Bernard Hopkins, Sven Ottke, Glen Johnson and Roy Jones all rolled into one in the face of Jeff Lacy, poor ... poor Jeff.

For my money Reid is also going to upset Andrade. Reid is a class above when he's facing a fighter who'll willfully engage with him. He has looked a lesser fighter of late, but I still think he has enough left for Andrade.
Wow, am I about to agree with you???? geez louise.....

I like your assessment of the fight, I do think that Joe does get better once he's taken a lump or 2, he really came on after Mitchell dropped him (kind-of a flash KD but Calzone came back w/ a vengeance) we'll see what both guys are made of once Lacy drops a left hook or 2 on Calzone's chin....

Tito's the best come-from-behind fighter of all-time though

HayeFan
04-04-2005, 05:48 PM
Runs W/ Knives, you're big-pimpin as well my friend, thanx for the luv & see you at the fights....

It's so funny how people get so damn serious about this trash talk, it's all pointless harmless humor, but the UK fans thrive on tabloid phony nonsense so I milk it for all it's worth

More shat.

Talk it down all you like, but at the end of the day you talked the talk and then pulled out a 2 inch dick. :rolleyes:

HayeFan
04-04-2005, 05:50 PM
Wow, am I about to agree with you???? geez louise.....

I like your assessment of the fight, I do think that Joe does get better once he's taken a lump or 2, he really came on after Mitchell dropped him (kind-of a flash KD but Calzone came back w/ a vengeance) we'll see what both guys are made of once Lacy drops a left hook or 2 on Calzone's chin....

Tito's the best come-from-behind fighter of all-time though

Trinidad is all about the same thing, pride.

Kimmy
04-04-2005, 05:55 PM
I seem to be getting a bit bet-happy lately, so I'll get back to the post's original question posed.

I see Lacy starting the fight cautiously. He'll give Calzaghe the respect he's due, Lacy's not stupid. Joe will outwork Lacy without making a dent. A feel out round for both fighters.

Lacy will grow more confident through the second and third, possibly winning the rounds on aggression. At some stage Lacy's vaunted left will land cleanly, we may see Calzaghe wobbled or dropped. It's then that we'll see what Lacy's made of. I've never seen a fighter become as motivated when hurt as Calzaghe, if Lacy doesn't use the opportunity effectively enough, it WILL be his undoing.

I think Lacy knows Calzaghe is underrated in the states, I dont think he'll take this fight lightly. If he does, he's in for a short, blunt shock.

Joe will trade with him when the end comes. Lacy will be dizzy with the steady flow of cuffing to blistering haymakers raining in on him. Round 6 - 8 Calzaghe TKO.

Lacy will be flattened, not wobbled, flattened. Calzaghe has years of pent up venom stored away for a fight like this. He's gonna be seeing Bernard Hopkins, Sven Ottke, Glen Johnson and Roy Jones all rolled into one in the face of Jeff Lacy, poor ... poor Jeff.

For my money Reid is also going to upset Andrade. Reid is a class above when he's facing a fighter who'll willfully engage with him. He has looked a lesser fighter of late, but I still think he has enough left for Andrade.
I agree with your preview of the Calzaghe/Lacy fight except i don`t think Joe gets in trouble, he`ll be up for it and hold firm throughtout the fight.
Robin Reid has been AVOIDED so much over the years. He`s the only guy who i fel gave Calzaghe a tough life and death fight because he is best when he is attacked. Jeff Lacy would lose to Reid, because a banger will get beaten by Reid ( Calzaghe being the exceotion ).
But the only way i see Joe losing against Lacy is if he is caught with a terrific punch, nothing else will do!