its hard since you mostly work different muscles and dont work at the same speed. How long should it take for you to actually notice a difference? whats your take on this?

Could you maybe speak english :p

I will when you speak spanish. LOL, just answer the question smart ass...

I will when you speak spanish. LOL, just answer the question smart ass...

That's my point maybe I could if you could put it in terms that a human being could understand, in other words simplify it.

That's my point maybe I could if you could put it in terms that a human being could understand, in other words simplify it.

Ok, i got you. Its evident this days more and more boxers are lifting weights and doing more non-traditional boxing exercises, for example plyos. Weight trng and exercises will actually make you stronger, but how do you turn that strenght into punching power or speed?

I understand why your saying now, but honestly I don't know the specific details of how exactly it's transferred.

Strength x Speed= Power???

I really don't know, I wish I did.

Ok, i got you. Its evident this days more and more boxers are lifting weights and doing more non-traditional boxing exercises, for example plyos. Weight trng and exercises will actually make you stronger, but how do you turn that strenght into punching power or speed?

Pacquiao is punching a banana tree for 4 years over and over again every day. Do the same

LOL, it seems easier to get stronger working out than seeing a real difference in power or speed, that's why I ask. I guess the right answer is to just keep pushing yourself over a longer period of time.

You get faster and more powerful by doing stuff faster and more powerfully not by lifting weights. you improve the rate at which you get faster and more powerfully doing stuff faster and more powerfully lifting weights.

if your not improving your either lifting weights wrong or your lifting weights too much in comparison to how much you spend punching.

any action to move a weight should be an action made as fast as you can while maintaining control of the weight. Thus improving the acceleration properties of the muscles invoked. improvement of top speed is not possible with weights as you will allways be able to do something faster with out restriction then with restriction.

its hard since you mostly work different muscles and dont work at the same speed. How long should it take for you to actually notice a difference? whats your take on this?

Ok, i think i know what your saying. I'd be interested in hearing everyone elses view on this controversial subject. To my mind, inorder to get the maximum benefit, the "extra curricular training" should mirror the demands of the chosen sport as closely as possible. This applies not only to the way the body’s energy systems and neuromuscular systems are taxed (through manipulation of intensity and rest intervals etc) but also to the movement patterns of each exercise.
So for example, where bodybuilders tend to isolate a muscle group and train it to exhaustion (hypertrophy), we as athletes (boxers) should train the specific movements of our sport.

Furthermore, a tradeoff between how we organise our training is important, i.e. in what type of training should be emphasizing? Should it be maximal strength, hypertrophy, explosive power, muscular endurance, etc.

It is important to note that your training depends on "you", what best suits your body (metabolism, natural strength, height, size, etc), what your objectives are in the long and short term (heavyweight champion of the world, just to be fit, self defence, etc) and also what your strategy in the ring is (verbal abuse thrower, heavy puncher, points scorer, etc).

the speed you lift a weight doent equal speed that you can peform.

i cant paste a picture of a force time table which would be helpfull to understand they way mucles work.
its a common mistake that lifting heavy weights, like max strength helps your speed a lot.
try to find some newer studys which prove alot of "common2 knowlege wrong. it gets a bit complacted but if you are into it its well worth it.

the speed you lift a weight doent equal speed that you can peform.

i cant paste a picture of a force time table which would be helpfull to understand they way mucles work.
its a common mistake that lifting heavy weights, like max strength helps your speed a lot.
try to find some newer studys which prove alot of "common2 knowlege wrong. it gets a bit complacted but if you are into it its well worth it.

Can you post a link to the force time table? i'd be interested in giving it a look.

Forgive my ignorance im not accredited personal trainer, (my medical qualifications are not sports related). But surely, training the specific movements has benefit.
For example, the vertical jump. The muscles involved in this action (calves, quadriceps, gluteals etc.) could be trained separately with exercises such as toe raises, leg extensions, leg curls, kickbacks and so on. However the barbell squat, which closely matches the movement pattern of the vertical jump would seem to be more appropriate and more so is the jump squat. These exercises are specific to jumping and therefore are worth employing.

Plos and light weights are for conditioning and fitness, not speed or power. Your boxing speed or power is essentially natural, and all training will do is enable you to maximise these talents (usually the duration for how long you can do it). I know feather fisted people who are as slow as snails asking what to do to improve speed/power. You cannot. All the exercises you speak of will only increase stamina in relation to these two natural gifts. You will be able to see on the bags, pads and sparring if you have these qualities or not

Having good form and throwing punches correctly.

Plos and light weights are for conditioning and fitness, not speed or power. Your boxing speed or power is essentially natural, and all training will do is enable you to maximise these talents (usually the duration for how long you can do it). I know feather fisted people who are as slow as snails asking what to do to improve speed/power. You cannot. All the exercises you speak of will only increase stamina in relation to these two natural gifts. You will be able to see on the bags, pads and sparring if you have these qualities or not

I think there is room for improvement working with plyos and light weights, not sure if that means a LOT of improvement.

I think for speed , speed strength.I would go with 3 to 5 reps like Rosstraining .Range of motion like your throwing a punch .For right hands for example .Med ball throws , dumbell shotputts , barbell and for grip sledgehammer swings all at 100 percent speed like your throwing a punch .
http://www.rossboxing.com/thegym/thegym25.htm
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For hooks and uppercuts man extra powerboxing .To mix it with exercise man dig out blind .Just punch outs like rosstraining .You can do hooks and uppercut punchouts as well .Example I seen Mayweathers trainer on a vid after a workout -6633 punches .Hard works not easy but for power just make sure your punching as hard as possivle .There's an exarcise I read as well for hooks .Stand at a cable machine side on and grab the bottom pully .Just go throw the hook range of motion like your throwing a hook , neck a protein shake and bump the weight up next time .Kostya Tszyu could bench 150kg and he only weighed 65 .
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http://www.rosstraining.com/articles/strengthtraining.html