View Full Version : Can Mike Tyson do the greatest comeback in history?


The_One77
04-03-2005, 04:31 PM
Does Mike Tyson still have the boxing ability and hunger to reach to the top?, or does he need to give up and maybe fade away as being one of the most recognized ruthless champions that ever lived. The man who had all the oppurtunities in the world and yet at the end never really achieved a self-hapiness from the sport.

Great quote though,

Mike: I'm the best ever, i'm the most brutal and vicious champion there's ever been. There's noone who can stop me, linx the conqueror, no i'm alexander he's no alexander' i'm the best ever. I'm sonny liston, i'm jack Dempsey, there's noone like me, i'm from their claw, there's noone who can match me.
My style is Unpitious, my defense is impregnable and i'm just feroious. I want your heart, i wanna eat your children!

He's a bit of a nutter sometimes though. :D

jack_the_rippuh
04-03-2005, 04:37 PM
Mike Tyson said he's going to get his act together and clean out the division. So yeah, I think he can make the greatest comeback in history....I feel bad for all the punks he's going to KO in his path of destruction/unification....

eden
04-03-2005, 04:40 PM
tyson should fight ruiz cos that would b another ruiz-tua .

M26
04-03-2005, 04:41 PM
No, he can not make the greatest comeback in history. In fact, it will not be much of a comeback at all. He is finished with a capitol F. We saw that clearly against Lewis and even more so against Williams. He is washed up beyond all recognision.

But still, people tend to hang on to the memory of what once was. The young beast with the nick "Iron". He is no more. I hope people start understanding that soon, because as long as people have some sort of stupid belief in him, they will pay to watch him fight. And as long as people pay to watch him fight, Tyson can make big money fighting. And as long as he makes big money, he will continue fighting, thus setting himself up for more punishment and possible brain damage etc. He should hang em up, debt or no debt.

akins12732
04-03-2005, 04:42 PM
yeah i agree he will most def KO some people on his rise to the top he can do it

The Fix
04-03-2005, 04:46 PM
greatest comeback in history was george foreman winning the championship at 45

paul750
04-03-2005, 04:46 PM
why don't you guys just leave poor old mike tyson alone, i don't want to see him fight tua, ruiz or anybody,can't people just make do with the memories? just leave the guy to retire in peace

buff_mike10
04-03-2005, 05:10 PM
In his fight with Williams i saw some of his old traits come back. He had more head movement and threw more combinations since he came out of prison. He still couldn't pull it off against Williams, knee injury or no knee injury. In the first round he hit Williams with everything he had, and it did not work out for him. 2005 is a far way from 1988. The 21 year old Tyson is gone, now there is only about 45% oh him left. He might win a few fights, but the title belt will never again go around his waist.

Truth
04-03-2005, 05:29 PM
Mike Tyson said he's going to get his act together and clean out the division. So yeah, I think he can make the greatest comeback in history....I feel bad for all the punks he's going to KO in his path of destruction/unification....

Hell yeah Rippuh, I got too start dropping that line. Anytime someone says anything bad about Tyson Im just going to say "Mike Tyson said he's going to get his act together and clean out the division." :D

BoxingPromoter
04-03-2005, 05:43 PM
I think Tyson still has the skills and ability to regain some of his former glory. However, I have doubts about how motivated he is or if he still has the hunger to regain the heavyweight title. Aside from that, Tyson still has the power to draw sold out arenas and high ppv sales from the millions of us boxing fans who love him. I think some possible matchups for him this year would be vs the likes of Tua,Wlad Klitscho,Bowe,McBride,and a rematch with Williams. :boxing:

BoxingPromoter
04-03-2005, 05:51 PM
One more point I forgot to mention. I think Tyson should develope a stronger chin to prevent him from gettin KO'd everytime he fights. I gringe everytime Tyson gets KO'd, I wouldn't mind so much if he lost by decision and I don't think it would set him back as much phycologically.

Truth
04-03-2005, 05:53 PM
One more point I forgot to mention. I think Tyson should develope a stronger chin to prevent him from gettin KO'd everytime he fights. I gringe everytime Tyson gets KO'd, I wouldn't mind so much if he lost by decision and I don't think it would set him back as much phycologically.

Tyson has a great chin...

BoxingPromoter
04-03-2005, 05:56 PM
Tyson has a great chin...

Is that a joke? Of his 5 losses, he's been knocked out 4 times. How is that having a great chin?

RwK
04-03-2005, 06:02 PM
Tyson has a great chin...

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phallus
04-03-2005, 06:06 PM
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Truth
04-03-2005, 06:07 PM
Yeah but its not like those knockouts were off one shot, he took monster shots from Ruddock, Holyfield, Lewis, Williams and Douglass. I think Williams hit him 30 times to put him down. Mike can take a punch.

BoxingPromoter
04-03-2005, 06:09 PM
Yeah but its not like those knockouts were off one shot, he took monster shots from Ruddock, Holyfield, Lewis, Williams and Douglass. I think Williams hit him 30 times to put him down. Mike can take a punch.

OK, I get your point. But if Tyson is to lose, I would much rather see him go the distance.

Truth
04-03-2005, 06:11 PM
In all those fights he got battered to the point of where the only thing he could do was fall.

RwK
04-03-2005, 06:11 PM
Yeah but its not like those knockouts were off one shot, he took monster shots from Ruddock, Holyfield, Lewis, Williams and Douglass. I think Williams hit him 30 times to put him down. Mike can take a punch.


I agree. I was just joking around man. I know Tyson can take a punch. He showed that By sustaining heavy shots from Lewis in the early rounds...and not even blinking. He showed a good chin against Bonecrusher, showed that he had heart by getting off the canvas in the Douglas fight, etc. etc. I am merely playing around. He does have a decent chin. I just could not resist posting those pictures.

Truth
04-03-2005, 06:13 PM
OK, I get your point. But if Tyson is to lose, I would much rather see him go the distance.

Me too I don't like to see Tyson get knocked out but what happens is he gets tired and he loses his power and defense and he gets pounded with combinations.

leff
04-03-2005, 07:07 PM
One more point I forgot to mention. I think Tyson should develope a stronger chin to prevent him from gettin KO'd everytime he fights. I gringe everytime Tyson gets KO'd, I wouldn't mind so much if he lost by decision and I don't think it would set him back as much phycologically.
tell me please how to develop a chin.

leff
04-03-2005, 07:10 PM
Yeah but its not like those knockouts were off one shot, he took monster shots from Ruddock, Holyfield, Lewis, Williams and Douglass. I think Williams hit him 30 times to put him down. Mike can take a punch.

if i remember correctly, it was a flash landed right hand and not a combination from lewis that koed tyson.

Dude
04-03-2005, 07:14 PM
tell me please how to develop a chin.

You might wanna ask him instead:

http://www.geocities.com/fnordbr/doktor.jpg

:D

The_One77
04-03-2005, 07:17 PM
tell me please how to develop a chin.
Get your sparring partner to have free shots. :)

Dude
04-03-2005, 07:19 PM
And well, everytime I respond to a Tyson-comeback topic my replies get shorter.

No, he can't.

Btw. didn't Mike want to start his comeback with Williams. I think that he's on the right track. A fight and a loss against Toney would be great. That could finally put him in Holy's league.

Truth
04-03-2005, 07:21 PM
if i remember correctly, it was a flash landed right hand and not a combination from lewis that koed tyson.

Yeah but before that he got pounded for 7 rounds so its not like that was one good shot from Lewis that knocked him out.

Dude
04-03-2005, 07:21 PM
Get your sparring partner to have free shots. :)

Sure, because Tyson never got hit clean before and hasn't got used to it...

Truth
04-03-2005, 07:23 PM
Sure, because Tyson never got hit clean before and hasn't got used to it...

I am confused :confused:

RwK
04-03-2005, 07:26 PM
A fight and a loss against Toney would be great. .

You say Joppy has no chance in beating Sturm.
I say Toney has no chance in hell of beating Mike Tyson. That fat slob would get KTFO by the better fighter. And true heavyweight.

Dude
04-03-2005, 07:27 PM
I am confused :confused:

I just wanted to point out that it wouldn't help Tyson improving his chin if he got hit by a sparring partner.

prtynacan
04-03-2005, 07:30 PM
Tyson has a great chin - he got hit with everything from Lewis that fight and it took 7 rounds to go down. Sadly, Tyson just doesn't have the skills anymore - his head movement, defense and quickness are greatly diminished from his pre prison days. He can't make fighters pay for missing him anymore, or make them miss for that matter. It's almost as bad to watch him fight as it is to see Holyfield take beatings from blown up middleweights. Put the gloves away Mike - be a promoter instead.

Dude
04-03-2005, 07:31 PM
You say Joppy has no chance in beating Sturm.

I say Toney has no chance in hell of beating Mike Tyson. That fat slob would get KTFO by the better fighter. And true heavyweight.

Toney beat Holyfield. Not that it would be a big deal but ten years ago Holyfield would've knocked Toney out bad.

15 years ago I wouldn't have bet on Toney to survive the first three rounds against Tyson. But Tyson is shot. He lost to Williams. To the very same Williams that got destructed by Samil Sam. Tyson is an easy night for most of the still active HWs out there.

leff
04-03-2005, 07:35 PM
You might wanna ask him instead:

http://www.geocities.com/fnordbr/doktor.jpg

:D

he said: standing still and let my sparringpartner hit me clean repeatly was no good idea.

sure it ill get tougher but not much besides i like my head intact

RwK
04-03-2005, 07:38 PM
Toney beat Holyfield. Not that it would be a big deal but ten years ago Holyfield would've knocked Toney out bad.

15 years ago I wouldn't have bet on Toney to survive the first three rounds against Tyson. But Tyson is shot. He lost to Williams. To the very same Williams that got destructed by Samil Sam. Tyson is an easy night for most of the still active HWs out there.

I refuse to believe that a blown up middleweight, is going to do a damn thing to Mike Tyson. The people that knocked him out, where ridiculous punchers. All of them. Williams knocked Meehan out in 30 seconds. Lewis was an assassin. Douglas---great punching power. Holy---simply exerted his will on Tyson which Toney does not have. Tyson would crush Toney, the minute he tries that "laying on the ropes" tactic. He is fat, and does not have the lateral movement to escape a damn thing Tyson would throw.

Did you see the first half of the Williams fight? Do you actually think Toney could weather a storm like that? I sure as hell dont. Those fighters were possessed, the ones who "dominated" Tyson. I dont like Mike very much, but this I would ASSUME. No way he can take those "kinds of punches". It takes a big dude to beat Tyson. Ala: Everyone who did beat him with the exception of Holy.

I have always been one to critique Tyson. Except ruling him out is ridiculous. He still has that great Equalizer in fights.

leff
04-03-2005, 07:38 PM
Yeah but before that he got pounded for 7 rounds so its not like that was one good shot from Lewis that knocked him out.
true he was beaten bad for 7 rounds first, but im still sure he would have gone down from that shot if it landed in the first.

Tha Greatest
04-03-2005, 07:41 PM
I'm sorry to say
Mike Tyson had lots of potential but now he's just pure SHOT

Mike Tyson just don't got it no more physically or mentally, i think he can make a comeback but not the greatest comeback ever....with the heavyweights we got now anyone can make a comeback maybe even big George lol, but Tyson will not dominate

Dude
04-03-2005, 07:42 PM
he said: standing still and let my sparringpartner hit me clean repeatly was no good idea.

sure it ill get tougher but not much besides i like my head intact

Alternativly you might run against walls or ask a friend to drop some stones on your head.

That's BS, of course you get tougher once you're used to take a good punch but a professional HW fighter and former champion has taken too much punches, not the other way round.

prtynacan
04-03-2005, 07:42 PM
true he was beaten bad for 7 rounds first, but im still sure he would have gone down from that shot if it landed in the first.

So the fact that he went down from a fantastic right hand shot from one of the biggest punchers in the division, after suffering fantastic punishment for 6 rounds means he has a bad chin? That's like saying Ali has a bad chin because he went down from an incredible Frazier left hook in the 15th round.

leff
04-03-2005, 07:46 PM
So the fact that he went down from a fantastic right hand shot from one of the biggest punchers in the division, after suffering fantastic punishment for 6 rounds means he has a bad chin? That's like saying Ali has a bad chin because he went down from an incredible Frazier left hook in the 15th round.


i never said he had a bad chin, his chin is fine, i just said he`s been knocked out by single punches not just combos.

Dude
04-03-2005, 07:50 PM
I refuse to believe that a blown up middleweight, is going to do a damn thing to Mike Tyson. The people that knocked him out, where ridiculous punchers. All of them. Williams knocked Meehan out in 30 seconds. Lewis was an assassin. Douglas---great punching power. Holy---simply exerted his will on Tyson which Toney does not have. Tyson would crush Toney, the minute he tries that "laying on the ropes" tactic. He is fat, and does not have the lateral movement to escape a damn thing Tyson would throw.

Did you see the first half of the Williams fight? Do you actually think Toney could weather a storm like that? I sure as hell dont. Those fighters were possessed, the ones who "dominated" Tyson. I dont like Mike very much, but this I would ASSUME. No way he can take those "kinds of punches". It takes a big dude to beat Tyson. Ala: Everyone who did beat him with the exception of Holy.

I have always been one to critique Tyson. Except ruling him out is ridiculous. He still has that great Equalizer in fights.

I've seen the Williams fight. And it really made me feel sorry. Danny is not even an A-class heavyweight. He's slow, he lacks control and, no, he is not a big puncher compared to others.

Toney would not only beat Tyson right now, he'd make him look stupid, he'd be able to showboat and to dance. Williams went down several times against Vitali. He doesn't posses a superbe chin. Tyson's so shot that even his power is beginning to fade. He lost his speed, his movement, his pride, his motivation and his self believe over the years. Somewhere on the way he even lost some million dollars. He's the prime example for a fighter with great talent who ends up being abused by everyone including himself. A few months ago Tyson still had a punchers chance. Now he has nothing. He's lost everything and there's no way he could get it back again. Tyson has to retire and try to make some money of his fame and past.

leff
04-03-2005, 07:52 PM
I have never seen that before. The closest I have seen him go down from 1 punch, was the uppercutt by Douglas that sent him to the canvas. Everything else was from accumulation of punishment.
You didnt see tyson-LL??

yes there he was hit many times in the fight but went down from 1 flash right not a combo like from holy,williams and douglas.

RwK
04-03-2005, 07:53 PM
Toney would not only beat Tyson right now, he'd make him look stupid, he'd be able to showboat and to dance. .

That is what I am having a hard time believing. Who was the last person who "Showboated" and "Danced" against Mike? I am sure they have someone tying their shoes for them as we speak. The only "Dancing" Toney does is when he is excited about opening a snack-and-go yogurt.

Dude
04-03-2005, 07:58 PM
That is what I am having a hard time believing. Who was the last person who "Showboated" and "Danced" against Mike? I am sure they have someone tying their shoes for them as we speak. The only "Dancing" Toney does is when he opens a snack-and-go yogurt.

Even Tyson can't KO the time. Right now Toney might be able to open a yogurt while boxing Iron Mike. It's sad and hard to believe but it's the truth. Ali lost a UD to Trevor Berbick in his last fight. Doesn't that make you realize?

RwK
04-03-2005, 08:05 PM
Even Tyson can't KO the time. Right now Toney might be able to open a yogurt while boxing Iron Mike. It's sad and hard to believe but it's the truth. Ali lost a UD to Trevor Berbick in his last fight. Doesn't that make you realize?

You need to realize something.

I never said he would win the heavyweight crown.
All I said was: He could beat Toney easily, and is still a threat because of his punching power. You cant just group me into a category named "Tyson-Hugger", because I have never done that. I am just pointing out the facts. Toney's style is taylor made for the better fighter in Tyson. Period.

Tyson > Toney. By a longshot. He would expose Toney's chin at this level. I gauruntee it.

Dude
04-03-2005, 08:09 PM
You need to realize something.

I never said he would win the heavyweight crown.
All I said was: He could beat Toney easily, and is still a threat because of his punching power. You cant just group me into a category named "Tyson-Hugger", because I have never done that. I am just pointing out the facts.

All I'm saying is: He can't beat any A or B class HW and his punching power isn't half of what it used to be.

I'm no "Tyson-Hater" and you're no "Tyson-Hugger". I'm just thinking that Tyson is no exception in the history of shot HWs and you don't.

RwK
04-03-2005, 08:18 PM
Tyson is no exception in the history of shot HWs and you don't.

IMO he is....because of his punching power. He hits as hard as anyone in the division right now. Foreman did, and he Exposed Moorer's chin, placing intelligent shots on him throughout the fight. Tyson is a tad bit more explosive at this stage than Foreman was. He still is a threat to hurt a heavyweight. Williams has a decent chin despite what people think. He sustained punishment from Vitali for several rounds, and showed heart by getting up.

Tyson made him look like a pinata for a little while in their fight. He was disco dancing for sure. Williams was singing "Staying Upright", and "Play that funky uppercutt Tyson".

If anyone ever gets whacked like that again? How in the sam hell are they going to hold up? What heavyweight other than Williams(that night) or Vitali is going to stand up to that? If Tua comes back, maybe.

NOBODY.

Kid Achilles
04-03-2005, 10:09 PM
I think you're overrating Tyson's power. Williams does not have a great chin. He was hurt by Vitali's arm punches and knocked all over the place by Sinan Samil San. He has an abundance of courage but his chin is not the best in this division

Tyson's last great KO was Botha. The punch that took down Etienne looked impressive but it's obvious the guy stayed down. Not a clean KO. Tyson has a big punch but so does Bowe, and so did Witherspoon. It wasn't just Foreman's punch that made his comeback so successful.

Comparing Tyson and Big George, Foreman was taller and rangier, physically stronger, and had more heart and chin. To put it blunt, he was a tougher man. Foreman could afford to take a punch to give one. He got away with being slow. Tyson can't do that. While it's hard to drop Tyson, it isn't hard to tame him.

Most importantly, Foreman's boxing style always relied on his power and physical strength. Foreman would shove a guy back to get a little punching room and smash away at them. He had a ramrod of a jab which is used, often not to step up combinations, but as a weapon itself. He would simply jab an opponent over and over to great effect.

A prime Tyson depended on quick reflexes and blistering hand speed. Without that quickness he is not a great or even a very good fighter. He's just another heavyweight with a punch. A David Tua with slightly faster hands and a weaker chin. I think Tyson's chance of making a comeback are close to none. Much less than Foreman's for sure. A speed fighter without his speed is a lost soul.

RwK
04-03-2005, 10:13 PM
I think you're overrating Tyson's power.

Right. But what heavyweight can withstand his punches? If he lands them? I am not saying he would "Land them". But if he did? that changes the fight 180 degrees. Williams JUST WOULD NOT GIVE UP in their fight. Like the bravery he showed against Vitali. I dont like Mike Tyson personally, but He is a dangerous and formidable opponent in the ring with the shallow heavyweight pool however. This I am starting to realize. And I actually think he STILL could possibly make an impact in this division. After all, who would you favor if Tyson were to face the winner of Ruiz/Toney? Because I would have to say Mike would blow them out of the water, with limited trouble.

SonnyG8R
04-03-2005, 10:20 PM
Tyson belongs in a glass cage next too the bearded women the the man with one eye.

mauricio95
04-03-2005, 10:48 PM
just one word

NO!

snap the jab
04-03-2005, 11:09 PM
Every time I've seen Tyson loose, especially in the Douglas and Holyfield fights, it seemed like he could have won if he was tougher mentally-- like he had all the physical attributes and boxing skills that he needed to beat the guys, but once they shut him down for a couple rounds he just gave up. I have no doubt that he could ko Klitschko or Byrd or Ruiz or whoever, if he really trained and got back the focus that he had back in the late 80s. Unfortunately, I just don't think that it's gonna happen-- the guys has just broken down, mentally, and should probably just retire.

Kid Achilles
04-04-2005, 12:35 AM
"After all, who would you favor if Tyson were to face the winner of Ruiz/Toney? Because I would have to say Mike would blow them out of the water, with limited trouble."

Depends on who the winner is.

If Ruiz wins, I see him tying up Tyson and preventing him from ever using his power for 12 rounds. He did it with Rahman, who is bigger and stronger than Mike and a much better boxer than Tyson at this stage in his career. In fact Ruiz would have a great chance of going the distance with even a prime Tyson. Look at what Bonecrusher Smith did. Smith was no great boxer.

If Toney wins, I give Tyson a chance. Toney is one guy I can see Tyson overpowering in the clinches. In addition to this, Toney does not hit nearly as hard as Ruiz, and he's even shorter than Mike, so I can see Tyson getting to him eventually.

Yarmez
04-04-2005, 12:37 AM
I would love to say yes, but i am affraid i think mother time has taken her toll on old Mike, I'd love to see him KO Vitali and all the other HW's but i don't see it happening

RwK
04-04-2005, 12:47 AM
Depends on who the winner is.
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That is kind of my basis in defending Tyson. Depending on how the draw works....in a potential heavyweight unification scheme, Tyson could end up with opponents whom he can beat. Lets say Rock does somehow beat Vitali, Tyson faced and beat the winner of Ruiz/Toney, That would leave Wlad and Byrd to settle their former dispute, Rahman faces the winner of that match. ASSUMING Rahman were to beat Wladimir, This would leave Tyson V.S. Rahman for the undisputed heavyweight championship of the world. Something that is VERY attainable at that point for Mike. If he ended up with: Williams(somehow), Vitali, Byrd, or Wlad...he would have trouble. Outside of that: I see nobody as a threat to beat him. Holy can not fight in the United States of America anymore. He would have a field day with guys like Samil Sam, Tye Fields, Valuev, Meehan, Brewster and any other freakshow. The heavyweight division has a limited number of fighters who can weather serious hailstorms. Especially ones of his caliber. That you have to give him credit for.

And I just see the clinching tactic as being a bad idea against the type of fighter Mike is. Exactly like Berndstein said about Lacy:

"You have to get him out of there. His power is an equalizer in fights".

I feel that your run of the mill heavyweight needs to "Get him out of there" or else. We all know what he is capable of.

Kid Achilles
04-04-2005, 12:52 AM
I agree that if Tyson chooses his opponents correctly he can still win some fights and just maybe win one of the major belts. However, I have the feeling his losing effort against Lewis was the last time we'll see him fight for the big apple.

The Troll
04-04-2005, 12:53 AM
Tyson's chin is "iron" its just his stamina and heart and determination that are a problem for him, but at his age 36 or 38 it does not look like there is chance for him to come back and sweep the diviosn.

I bet however if Tyson wins like 4 fights in a row than fights Klistchko He wont have bad odds against him, he always has a chance to do it, He is "Iron" Mike Tyson.

miron_lang
04-04-2005, 02:04 AM
Does Mike Tyson still have the boxing ability and hunger to reach to the top?, or does he need to give up and maybe fade away as being one of the most recognized ruthless champions that ever lived. The man who had all the oppurtunities in the world and yet at the end never really achieved a self-hapiness from the sport.

Great quote though,

Mike: I'm the best ever, i'm the most brutal and vicious champion there's ever been. There's noone who can stop me, linx the conqueror, no i'm alexander he's no alexander' i'm the best ever. I'm sonny liston, i'm jack Dempsey, there's noone like me, i'm from their claw, there's noone who can match me.
My style is Unpitious, my defense is impregnable and i'm just feroious. I want your heart, i wanna eat your children!

He's a bit of a nutter sometimes though. :D


NO. He's too OLD :(

BoxingPromoter
04-04-2005, 09:17 AM
tell me please how to develop a chin.

leff, he(Tyson) should watch old tapes of Ali. He'll get the idea :)

jack_the_rippuh
04-04-2005, 10:13 AM
The people who hate Mike Tyson really love Mike Tyson. They're just trying to be different from the majority, which are people who love Tyson. I truly feel sorry for the people he's going to knock unconcious....namely Chris Byrd.

Tha Greatest
04-04-2005, 02:17 PM
He can be a champ again...
but he can't do what george foreman did and knockout a young michael moorer, he can be a champ in this crappy division

{BrownBomber}
04-04-2005, 03:38 PM
When I saw his expresion after Williams ko'd it look like a Tyson that just quit. He gonna have that quit inside of him when ever he gets tested again. He looked like was saying in his mind "**** this boxing ****".

Kimmy
04-04-2005, 06:34 PM
When I saw his expresion after Williams ko'd it look like a Tyson that just quit. He gonna have that quit inside of him when ever he gets tested again. He looked like was saying in his mind "**** this boxing ****".
Yeah, he still gets paid and thats what Mike cares about. When the going gets tough, Mike gets going and gets KO`ed, always happens. Tyson is the only'legend' who could never come from behind and win!

cple
04-04-2005, 07:07 PM
Mike Tyson will not produce the greatest comeback in history for two reasons. 1.) He's done--physically and mentally. 2.) If he somehow does regain the title, it'll be nothing close to Eder Jofre's comeback.

PopA
04-04-2005, 07:22 PM
Mike is definitely finished. I still hope he can get a few more fights and pay back his debts but I don't think he'll be a serious contender anymore.

catskills23
04-07-2005, 06:04 PM
If mike tyson is serious this time and fights a few more guy after mcbride and stays active he can beat everyone including vitali . But mike has to stay active if not it will be the same old story . Mike is lucky the division is so weak at the moment if the eighties guys mike beat in his prime the likes of tony tucker, pinklon thomas, tyrell biggs, tony tubbs, larry holmes, michael spinks, frank bruno and trevor berbick were around today mike wouldnt beat any of them .

deuce_drop
04-08-2005, 02:42 AM
just answering the topic and not reading opinions......Yes, very much so. he has the punch and still has the skill, even now that he's not the same fighter, he still has what it takes to clean out this sorry division..... when mike has his head on straight he's a terrific fighter, he comes in conditioned, focused and ready..... one thing that can be a problem is that staying health, you know, the older you get, the easier it is to get hurt. like the leg thing, or tearing a muscle, but if he can healthy and be focused on the task at hand, mike can do the greatest come back in history....the red sox did!!

AIR_KENG
04-08-2005, 02:49 AM
he is still one of my favorite fighter of all time so i'm hoping he could make the comback... he still has the skill and power... the only problem is, is he mentally capable??? what i mean is, does he still have the urge to win???

Sinatra.Jr
04-08-2005, 03:51 AM
Tyson could be the Heavyweight champion again if both his fisical and mental conditions recovered but Vitari.That's why Tyson couldn't do the greatest comeback I suppose.regretful...

kapersky
04-08-2005, 06:44 AM
Every time I've seen Tyson loose, especially in the Douglas and Holyfield fights, it seemed like he could have won if he was tougher mentally-- like he had all the physical attributes and boxing skills that he needed to beat the guys, but once they shut him down for a couple rounds he just gave up. I have no doubt that he could ko Klitschko or Byrd or Ruiz or whoever, if he really trained and got back the focus that he had back in the late 80s. Unfortunately, I just don't think that it's gonna happen-- the guys has just broken down, mentally, and should probably just retire.

agree, vs douglas he had bigger chance to win if he only had tougher mentally, but vs holyfield i am not sure, he landed his best short(uppercut) on the 5round and almost stagger holyfield but that was his best short. it seem like you need to hit holyfield with hammer to really hurt him. but if he could comeback now?, i dont think so he should retired after if not douglas ruddock, he was slowing down and couldnt finish when he had ruddock hurt. but what a fighter he was in his prime. ;)

Cortez
04-08-2005, 06:47 AM
He is mentally unstable and physically washed up.

Please leave it alone he is done. :D

El Jesus
04-08-2005, 09:40 AM
just answering the topic and not reading opinions......Yes, very much so. he has the punch and still has the skill, even now that he's not the same fighter, he still has what it takes to clean out this sorry division..... when mike has his head on straight he's a terrific fighter, he comes in conditioned, focused and ready..... one thing that can be a problem is that staying health, you know, the older you get, the easier it is to get hurt. like the leg thing, or tearing a muscle, but if he can healthy and be focused on the task at hand, mike can do the greatest come back in history....the red sox did!!


I like this post because it speaks the truth in my opinion, the only person who can stop mike is himself, its all on him, mentally he has to want it, and hopefully he does.

czars_salad
04-08-2005, 09:48 AM
he will eat your children