View Full Version : WHY does MORALES hate BARRERA so much?


Zab Super Judah
11-25-2004, 12:58 AM
whats his reasoning?

.::|ULTIMATE|::.
11-25-2004, 01:07 AM
Morales hates Barrera because of all the smack Barrera spoke after their first encounter. As you guys might recall Barrera at the end of the 1st fight said Morales wasnt worth a damn. Then in every talk show he appeared on he kept talking a lot of smack of Morales. At their second fight's press conference Morales talked smack back which resulted in Barrera nailing morales there and then. Morales quickly tried to retaliate with a 1-2 (both mens punches were thrown lightning quick i'd hate to be in a street fight against either) I believe Morale's shots however did not land as Barrera quickly hit him and stepped back.

Barrera hates Morales just as much and before he was given the nod to the second fight you could probably argue his hatred towards Morales was even bigger.

In the end it all boils down to one thing... Mexico isnt big enough for both of them to share the spotlight as the reigning pride of Mexico and on the 27th one will emerge and the other will go home and contemplate retirement (yes if Morales looses he too will contemplate it).

VPDJ
11-25-2004, 01:20 AM
Morales hates Barrera so much coz MAB is his no. 1 Mexican rival. The one who gave him his tough fights.

grayfist
11-25-2004, 01:24 AM
The MAB-Morales rivalry is not the first, much less, the only rivalry among/between Mexican fighters. Boxing is a mother lode of Mexican rivalries all through the years and such rivalries have helped enrich boxing lore! ;)

There were even rivalries between home-grown Mexican fighters and American-born fighters with Mexican parentage. :)

Zab Super Judah
11-25-2004, 01:28 AM
thanks for the info ultimate..good stuff

t_tsuguri
11-25-2004, 02:52 AM
Another reason could be the fact that Morales was actually born in a boxing gym run by his father in a poor ghetto of Mexico. Whereas Barrera only decided to become a boxer after first deciding not to finish law school. It's the typical struggle between the proleteriat and the bourgeoise.

NAB
11-25-2004, 04:49 AM
I heard it's a class rivalry type thing... Morales is supposed to be from the tougher upbringing.. feels Barrera doesn't respect him or something...

pinaldino
11-25-2004, 05:53 AM
big rivalry but also MAB was very dispising from the start toward el terrible, he called him an "ignorant indian" a few years ago I think.

PRboxingfan
11-25-2004, 12:12 PM
big rivalry but also MAB was very dispising from the start toward el terrible, he called him an "ignorant indian" a few years ago I think.
Yes, I remember that! Haha, a dumb indian. I guess you'd almost have to be latino to get that one. Indians, in Latin America, are like hicks or rednecks here in the states, they have the same stereotypical intelligence.

jack_the_rippuh
11-25-2004, 12:50 PM
Morales is going to win. He's going to stop Barrera in the 8th Round..

PRboxingfan
11-25-2004, 01:13 PM
Morales is going to win. He's going to stop Barrera in the 8th Round..
I agree with this kid. I don't know if the 8th is correct, so I'm just saying KO. I think it will be in the later rounds, tho, like the 10th, but that is inconsequential.

amaru
11-25-2004, 01:51 PM
barreras gonna win on points, its gonna be a unanimous decision. barreras ready and hes gonna win :)

Zab Super Judah
11-25-2004, 02:54 PM
morales wins by tko

tino
11-25-2004, 03:17 PM
morales is better suited for 130 , late rounds TKO

trinidadpr87
11-25-2004, 03:23 PM
I Would Go With Morales Ud12 But Since The Judges Never Seem To Give It To The Winner Im Gonna Say A Draw.

Boxerdog
11-25-2004, 03:31 PM
Is this thread from the same Zab that posted at the late, legendary, lamented boxing.com a few years ago?

itsbusdriver
11-25-2004, 04:05 PM
i'd love to see MAB pull it off

tracylee
11-25-2004, 05:05 PM
Although I like both fighters, I always LOVED Morales and I really think he's gonna win this 3rd match up.
I heard their problem with each other was on a much more personal level?? :confused: I cant remember the details cause it's been so long ago, but I though Barrera insulted him repeatedly and in a very personal way :o

phallus
11-25-2004, 05:07 PM
Although I like both fighters, I always LOVED Morales and I really think he's gonna win this 3rd match up.
I heard their problem with each other was on a much more personal level?? :confused: I cant remember the details cause it's been so long ago, but I though Barrera insulted him repeatedly and in a very personal way :o


oh, it's personal now, beautiful, MAB called Morales a dumb indian and dissed him on tv several times, now all that matters is Mexico isn't big enough for both of them

tracylee
11-25-2004, 05:10 PM
oh, it's personal now, beautiful, MAB called Morales a dumb indian and dissed him on tv several times, now all that matters is Mexico isn't big enough for both of them

I dont know why but I keep thinking that Barrera said something really bad about Erik's mom or something of that nature...I hate to 'guess' and totally get it wrong, but that keeps coming to mind; that or something like it. :confused: :confused:

phallus
11-25-2004, 05:16 PM
I dont know why but I keep thinking that Barrera said something really bad about Erik's mom or something of that nature...I hate to 'guess' and totally get it wrong, but that keeps coming to mind; that or something like it. :confused: :confused:

he probably did talk trash about Morales mom, and on tv, no less!
who knows, i can see Barrera saying " Chinga tu madre," to Morales face. Someone's gonna have to lean back (dammit, half asian_sensation, you got me saying that **** all the time, now!)

tracylee
11-25-2004, 05:27 PM
he probably did talk trash about Morales mom, and on tv, no less!
who knows, i can see Barrera saying " Chinga tu madre," to Morales face. Someone's gonna have to lean back (dammit, half asian_sensation, you got me saying that **** all the time, now!)

I think they'll just always hate each other...no matter what. Should make for a great fight though :D

phallus
11-25-2004, 05:36 PM
I think they'll just always hate each other...no matter what. Should make for a great fight though :D

this fight should be another superfight, i can't wait for Morales - Pac.

tracylee
11-25-2004, 06:12 PM
this fight should be another superfight, i can't wait for Morales - Pac.

Me either....fireworks, for as long as it lasts! :D

Sir_Jose
11-25-2004, 06:17 PM
whats his reasoning?


MAB is actually the one who started it. He doesn't like Morales cause he kinda felt like Morales stole a his thunder. Then MAB talked **** about TJ where Morales is from and Morales shot back with MAB being raised a rish kid and so on and so on.

MAB was gonna be the next big thing in Mexico and then comes Morales and everyone just forgot about MAB. I think jealousy has alot to do with it.

psychopath
11-26-2004, 12:04 AM
MAB is actually the one who started it. He doesn't like Morales cause he kinda felt like Morales stole a his thunder. Then MAB talked **** about TJ where Morales is from and Morales shot back with MAB being raised a rish kid and so on and so on.

MAB was gonna be the next big thing in Mexico and then comes Morales and everyone just forgot about MAB. I think jealousy has alot to do with it.


Hey thanks for that info . . . :D I really thought that it's a simple promotional thing.

xoalvinox
11-26-2004, 12:07 AM
Does anyone know who punched who before their first fight during a press conference?

tracylee
11-26-2004, 12:10 PM
Does anyone know who punched who before their first fight during a press conference?

somebody posted that Barrera hit Morales, and then 'ducked'or got out of the way of the counter punch that Morales threw (or something like that)

xoalvinox
11-26-2004, 12:14 PM
somebody posted that Barrera hit Morales, and then 'ducked'or got out of the way of the counter punch that Morales threw (or something like that)


Anyone have a clip of the punch?

jujitsujn
11-26-2004, 03:09 PM
Marco Antonio Barrera by UD