I need some help from the level headed boxing history buffs about this subject.

True bona fide Hall of Famers pink Floyd Mayweather Jr. has fought.

Diego Corrales

Arturo Gatti

Jose Luis Castillo

Genaro Hernandez

Ricky Hatton.

Seems like the nuthuggers just want to start putting every recognizable name on his resume in the HOF just for the sake of their argument.

I dont think none of these guys are true HOF. Gatti & Corrales will probably go in due to their tragic deaths & hatton because of his popularity.

I would like to know your objective & unbiased opinions.

I don't know, there's a big difference between "bonafide great" and "Hall of Fame Quality", at least going by who's in the IBHOF as it is.

I don't know, there's a big difference between "bonafide great" and "Hall of Fame Quality", at least going by who's in the IBHOF as it is.

What i should have said is true hall of fame caliber fighter. I know there are lost of fighters in the HOF that should not be in. Im talking about fighters who should be in.

Base the criteria on fighters who should be in the hall of fame rightfully so, do these fighters get in?

I voted Gatti because he was one of the most exciting fighters this side of Saad Muhammad. But all these guys are lacking in the accomplishment cattegory.

I need some help from the level headed boxing history buffs about this subject.

True bona fide Hall of Famers pink Floyd Mayweather Jr. has fought.

Diego Corrales

Arturo Gatti

Jose Luis Castillo

Genaro Hernandez

Ricky Hatton.

Seems like the nuthuggers just want to start putting every recognizable name on his resume in the HOF just for the sake of their argument.

I dont think none of these guys are true HOF. Gatti & Corrales will probably go in due to their tragic deaths & hatton because of his popularity.

I would like to know your objective & unbiased opinions.

I don't believe any of these guys are HOF worthy. I wouldn't vote for any of these guys over Lloyd marshall, Donald Curry and Naseem Hamed, 3 men that aren't in.

Maybe a couple (Castillo? Gatti?) of them will get in, but I don't think any of them are true HOF worthy fighters.

Hatton certainly not in my opinion. Has one great win over a faded fighter. Corrales no also. He had four good wins over his whole career, being Casamayor whom he also lost to twice though, Castillo, whom he also got knocked out by, Freitas and Gainer. Castillo is a possibility with wins over Johnston, Bazan, Casamayor, Corrales, etc but then he's also been knocked out about twenty times, so that doesn't help any. Gatti also has some good wins, but again, interspersed with a lot of losses to guys he would have needed to beat to have a chance. His greatest wins aren't particularly stunning either, though there are some good fighters on there certainly.

They were all good champs for their time and did well, but HOF is about being a great champ that would be so in any time and I just don't think those guys cut it. The fact is though that there are some other guys that are probably about equal in accomplishments that are in there, who shouldn't be, so what's to say these guys won't?

The HOF is good, but I think the longer it goes on the more it will end up being a popularity contest with guys like Hatton, Gatti, Corrales etc getting in when in all reality they don't deserve to, even though they gave us fans hugely entertaining fights and great memories.

The HOF should be about recognising the greatest champions for their skill and accomplishment, and not for their popularity, though no doubt, like everything else, it will become exactly that.

Anyway, no, I don't think they are true HOF'ers.

Maybe a couple (Castillo? Gatti?) of them will get in, but I don't think any of them are true HOF worthy fighters.

Hatton certainly not in my opinion. Has one great win over a faded fighter. Corrales no also. He had four good wins over his whole career, being Casamayor whom he also lost to twice though, Castillo, whom he also got knocked out by, Freitas and Gainer. Castillo is a possibility with wins over Johnston, Bazan, Casamayor, Corrales, etc but then he's also been knocked out about twenty times, so that doesn't help any. Gatti also has some good wins, but again, interspersed with a lot of losses to guys he would have needed to beat to have a chance. His greatest wins aren't particularly stunning either, though there are some good fighters on there certainly.

They were all good champs for their time and did well, but HOF is about being a great champ that would be so in any time and I just don't think those guys cut it. The fact is though that there are some other guys that are probably about equal in accomplishments that are in there, who shouldn't be, so what's to say these guys won't?

The HOF is good, but I think the longer it goes on the more it will end up being a popularity contest with guys like Hatton, Gatti, Corrales etc getting in when in all reality they don't deserve to, even though they gave us fans hugely entertaining fights and great memories.

The HOF should be about recognising the greatest champions for their skill and accomplishment, and not for their popularity, though no doubt, like everything else, it will become exactly that.

Anyway, no, I don't think they are true HOF'ers.

Excellent point and well said.

Maybe a couple (Castillo? Gatti?) of them will get in, but I don't think any of them are true HOF worthy fighters.

Hatton certainly not in my opinion. Has one great win over a faded fighter. Corrales no also. He had four good wins over his whole career, being Casamayor whom he also lost to twice though, Castillo, whom he also got knocked out by, Freitas and Gainer. Castillo is a possibility with wins over Johnston, Bazan, Casamayor, Corrales, etc but then he's also been knocked out about twenty times, so that doesn't help any. Gatti also has some good wins, but again, interspersed with a lot of losses to guys he would have needed to beat to have a chance. His greatest wins aren't particularly stunning either, though there are some good fighters on there certainly.

They were all good champs for their time and did well, but HOF is about being a great champ that would be so in any time and I just don't think those guys cut it. The fact is though that there are some other guys that are probably about equal in accomplishments that are in there, who shouldn't be, so what's to say these guys won't?

The HOF is good, but I think the longer it goes on the more it will end up being a popularity contest with guys like Hatton, Gatti, Corrales etc getting in when in all reality they don't deserve to, even though they gave us fans hugely entertaining fights and great memories.

The HOF should be about recognising the greatest champions for their skill and accomplishment, and not for their popularity, though no doubt, like everything else, it will become exactly that.

Anyway, no, I don't think they are true HOF'ers.

I don't believe any of these guys are HOF worthy. I wouldn't vote for any of these guys over Lloyd marshall, Donald Curry and Naseem Hamed, 3 men that aren't in.

thanks for the responses guys. make sure you vote.

None of them..

Hatton's KO loss to Pacquiao is still fresh in eveyones mid, so he gets laughed out of it without consideration, but in truth, he'd have probably battered Gatti & Hernandez, has KO'd Castllio who had already beaten Corrales..
However, all 5 are still better candidates than Eddie Perkins or Barry McGuigan..

The problem with boxing's hall of fame is that it isn't a measure of greatness but rather popularity. Any fighter with a sizable fan following will get in which means Gatti is a lock and probably Mickey Ward too. The standards are just different than those of the baseball and football hall of fames. That's one of the reasons I never refer to people fighting "hall-of-famers" but rather narrow it to down to ATGs.

Poet

The problem with boxing's hall of fame is that it isn't a measure of greatness but rather popularity. Any fighter with a sizable fan following will get in which means Gatti is a lock and probably Mickey Ward too. The standards are just different than those of the baseball and football hall of fames. That's one of the reasons I never refer to people fighting "hall-of-famers" but rather narrow it to down to ATGs.

Poet

You make a great point. Ward making the HOF would be akin to Fred Patek making the baseball hof

You make a great point. Ward making the HOF would be akin to Fred Patek making the baseball hof

But there ARE fighters in their less accomplished in the profession ranks. Lazslo Papp was an outstanding amateur and basically screwed out of a promising career by his government. Does this mean he deserves to be mentioned amongst the best? Not in my opinion. The IBHOF is extremely flawed.

But there ARE fighters in their less accomplished in the profession ranks. Lazslo Papp was an outstanding amateur and basically screwed out of a promising career by his government. Does this mean he deserves to be mentioned amongst the best? Not in my opinion. The IBHOF is extremely flawed.

It depends on how the voters of the IBHOF look at it. The basketball HOF has several inductees who had a phenomenal college career and less than stellar pro career. If Teofilio Stevenson and Felix Savon were inducted, there would be many people for it. I'm not even sure if there is such a thing as an amateur HOF. If not, than these amateur greats, like Papp, get a chance to be inducted based on their amateur careers.

I don't believe any of these guys are HOF worthy. I wouldn't vote for any of these guys over Lloyd marshall, Donald Curry and Naseem Hamed, 3 men that aren't in.

I'm surprised that Naseem Hamed didn't make it in on the first ballot. In terms of skills and accomplishments, he is easily better than any of the other candidates on the ballot.

Hernandez, Corrales, Castillo, and Hatton have each accomplished more than some of the fighters who are in the HOF and probably deserve to be inducted. Arturo Gatti is clearly the worst fighter of the bunch, if he becomes a HOFer it will only be because of popularity, not because of skills or accomplishments.

I'm surprised that Naseem Hamed didn't make it in on the first ballot. In terms of skills and accomplishments, he is easily better than any of the other candidates on the ballot.

Hernandez, Corrales, Castillo, and Hatton have each accomplished more than some of the fighters who are in the HOF and probably deserve to be inducted. Arturo Gatti is clearly the worst fighter of the bunch, if he becomes a HOFer it will only be because of popularity, not because of skills or accomplishments.
I pretty much agree with this, If Gatti is going to get in and lets face it if McGuigan is in Gatti should, then the other four who have a far better set of achievements and accomplishments will.

Hatton will probably get in based on being a rare UK fighter who won Belts at two weights and held the Ring belt and was pretty much undisputed at his weight for half a decade.

For me the one shoe in of the bunch is Hernandez.