I dont hate Roy, and I agree he is amongst the best PFP, but he is a shot fighter and i will tell you why. As a fighter if you dont regulate your weight it ages you in the ring very quickly. Roy has bulked up and then slimed down so many times it has runined him, every time he put on solid lean muscle to bulk up for a fight and then had to loose it again it fuked him up as it would anyone, his body got used to the extra muscle so when he needed to remove it again it left him weak and weight drained hence the appearence of poor punch resistance, let me tell you his chin used to be solid, but due to this see-saw weight problem its left him as we all see him now, his body doesnt no what weight it should be its in fukin limbo or something, he needs 6 months off total, then he will be ok for a few more fights at i would say light heavy.

I dont hate Roy, and I agree he is amongst the best PFP, but he is a shot fighter and i will tell you why. As a fighter if you dont regulate your weight it ages you in the ring very quickly. Roy has bulked up and then slimed down so many times it has runined him, every time he put on solid lean muscle to bulk up for a fight and then had to loose it again it fuked him up as it would anyone, his body got used to the extra muscle so when he needed to remove it again it left him weak and weight drained hence the appearence of poor punch resistance, let me tell you his chin used to be solid, but due to this see-saw weight problem its left him as we all see him now, his body doesnt no what weight it should be its in fukin limbo or something, he needs 6 months off total, then he will be ok for a few more fights at i would say light heavy.
Damn.. And people call me a spammer.

Damn.. And people call me a spammer.

With a total of 1600 posts to my mere 160, yes you are a spamer..

With a total of 1600 posts to my mere 160, yes you are a spamer..
lol That's because I post more than you do.
But everytime you think of something, you make a thread about it.
That's pretty much spamming. ;)

lol That's because I post more than you do.
But everytime you think of something, you make a thread about it.
That's pretty much spamming. ;)
Isnt that why we are all here to think of things and post about them?? correct me if im mistaken..

ya hes done he needs to go
i hate to have seen him lose like dat
that last left made him gain speed as he crashed into the mat
that was a nasty spill

Isnt that why we are all here to think of things and post about them?? correct me if im mistaken..
You can't do that in other threads?
Do you really need to create a thread each time you have a thought?
Perhaps I should make a thread whenever I feel the need to take a ****.

You are definitely an expert on gaining weight....the losing part?....nawwwww. :rolleyes:

Everyone send Sonny good karma. :)

You are definitely an expert on gaining weight....the losing part?....nawwwww. :rolleyes:
lol Wait.. Sem is the fat guy who got knocked out and whined about it in the old forum? http://graphics.gaiaonline.com/forum/images/smiles/icon_lol.gif

You can't do that in other threads?
Do you really need to create a thread each time you have a thought?
Perhaps I should make a thread whenever I feel the need to take a ****.
I take it you never make posts then, so im guessing you think of a good question but dont post it??? are you on drugs or been at ur momas wine cabinet today.
But from what ive seen of you in here im sure your posts are all as interesting as you taking a ****....

Everyone send Sonny good karma. :)
It won't let me give you karma. :p

I take it you never make posts then, so im guessing you think of a good question but dont post it??? are you on drugs or been at ur momas wine cabinet today.
But from what ive seen of you in here im sure your posts are all as interesting as you taking a ****....
I usually post my thoughts in other threads.
I feel no need to make a thread for each thought I have.
But I guess when you have only three brain cells left, a huge gut, and are over the hill, having a thought is really something to celebrate.

I usually post my thoughts in other threads.
I feel no need to make a thread for each thought I have.
But I guess when you have only three brain cells left, a huge gut, and are over the hill, having a thought is really something to celebrate.

I will take your word for all the above, lol fuk wit.

I will take your word for all the above, lol fuk wit.
Poor guy, did you not realize I was typing about you?
Is this what binge drinking, sex with elderly transsexuals and getting knocked out by jabs from rookie fighters, does to a person?

You are definitely an expert on gaining weight....the losing part?....nawwwww. :rolleyes:
At 200lbs and 6ft3 after 16 weeks of hard training im hardly fat, maybe u just like fat guys, but do go cruising around me for some ass im hapily married , lol fuk wit.

The reason why Roy is done is because he got old. Plain and simple. As a youth, he never learned proper technique because he didn't have to. Him and his trainers built his style around his incredible quickness and reflexes. He could do unorthodox movements in the ring and get away with them.

However, once his speed and reflexes diminished, he was reduced to a sloppy fighter with good handspeed. He can no longer see punches before they are thrown. He can no longer fight with his hands at his waist. The thing that made his so great was eventually his downfall.

Poor guy, did you not realize I was typing about you?
Is this what binge drinking, sex with elderly transsexuals and getting knocked out by jabs from rookie fighters, does to a person?

Ill take your word for all the above, lol fuk wit.

The reason why Roy is done is because he got old. Plain and simple. Wrong....the spell was broken and so was his will.

Ill take your word for all the above, lol fuk wit.
Well.. It looks like we have someone on this site we can goto for information on fighters like vegetable man ("G-man") and the drooling wonder (RJJ), because he has the same problems as they do.

Wrong....the spell was broken and so was his will. Damn nearly a decent response without any **** in it...welcome to the human race.

Damn nearly a decent response without any **** in it...welcome to the human race.
Wow.. A post without any spelling errors or repeated lines.
I'm impressed.
Now you just need to learn how to wipe your ass and breathe through your nose.

Damn nearly a decent response without any **** in it...welcome to the human race.
Look fatty you barely operate at a semi-literate level....the only thing you are qualified to judge is a smelly socks contest.

P.S. If you bet on Danny against Vitali yer mum will miss her good silver set dearly.... :mad:

Look fatty you barely operate at a literate level....the only thing you are qualified to judge is a smelly socks contest.

P.S. If you bet on Danny against Vitali yer mum will miss her good silver set dearly.... :mad:
lol Don't be mistaken.
Those are just some plastic sporks they stole from an elementary school and dipped in silver paint that they spent their life savings on.

Anyway, I'm heading out for now.
Make fun of you later semen.

Wow.. A post without any spelling errors or repeated lines.
I'm impressed.
Now you just need to learn how to wipe your ass and breathe through your nose.
ROFLMAO is that all you can think of to say, very very lame and un-intelegent, was you dropped on your head as a child, maybe that would account for your 25 IQ score, or maybe your just a hater or everyone that enjoys making posts about interesting topics, just to let you know fool this is a boxing forum to talk about boxing topics, you say that your not supposed to make posts in a forum, now who the hell told you this or are you realy that fuked up. Dont post in here dude why not cancel your account and go were your more wanted, u know the place, under the bridge with all the other loosers and homeless ppl.

Look fatty you barely operate at a semi-literate level....the only thing you are qualified to judge is a smelly socks contest.

P.S. If you bet on Danny against Vitali yer mum will miss her good silver set dearly.... :mad:

Ahaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahaaa aaaa you are a looser like everyone said you were. Is that all you got, go get a dictionary so you can understand what you have just posted and get back to me.

you got, got get a dictionary
...you are either completely brain damaged or an unheralded savant comedic genius.

...you are either completely brain damaged or an unheralded savant comedic genius.

Your getting pretty desperate if thats all you can think of, well guess its 1-0 to me again then.
I take it your a spotty faced little 15 year old sat behind your pops PC, lol and box of cleanex and a rubber glove under the desk...squirt squirt..

I usually post my thoughts in other threads.
I feel no need to make a thread for each thought I have.
But I guess when you have only three brain cells left, a huge gut, and are over the hill, having a thought is really something to celebrate.

Dude, didn't you make a thread a bout a show you were watching and started to have a conversation with yourself?

Dude, didn't you make a thread a bout a show you were watching and started to have a conversation with yourself?
That was only for a while and it wasn't my intent.
Not my fault no one else was posting at the time.
Also, I was updating info on the fight.

ROFLMAO is that all you can think of to say, very very lame and un-intelegent, was you dropped on your head as a child, maybe that would account for your 25 IQ score, or maybe your just a hater or everyone that enjoys making posts about interesting topics, just to let you know fool this is a boxing forum to talk about boxing topics, you say that your not supposed to make posts in a forum, now who the hell told you this or are you realy that fuked up. Dont post in here dude why not cancel your account and go were your more wanted, u know the place, under the bridge with all the other loosers and homeless ppl.
Blah blah blah..
Please be somewhat coherent you "never was" bum. ;)

The reason why Roy is done is because he got old. Plain and simple. As a youth, he never learned proper technique because he didn't have to. Him and his trainers built his style around his incredible quickness and reflexes. He could do unorthodox movements in the ring and get away with them.

However, once his speed and reflexes diminished, he was reduced to a sloppy fighter with good handspeed. He can no longer see punches before they are thrown. He can no longer fight with his hands at his waist. The thing that made his so great was eventually his downfall.

Old? Wtf old?!!?? He got clocked by a guy who was also 35 and who also swung wide. RJJ was genetically gifted and no way 35 years would stop him. He just didn't look like he wanted to do box anymore. He lost his will.

Old? Wtf old?!!?? He got clocked by a guy who was also 35 and who also swung wide. RJJ was genetically gifted and no way 35 years would stop him. He just didn't look like he wanted to do box anymore. He lost his will.

Yes old. So what if the other guy was 35? People age differently. Lennox Lewis got better with age, arguably, Arhie Moore as well. Simply look at Roger Clemens and Barry Bonds. Some athletes hit their prime late in their career. Others such as Wilfred Benitez, Wilfredo Gomez, etc. burn out early.

You even said it yourself, "RJJ was genetically gifted...". The key word is "was". He could no longer do the things he did in his prime. Do you seriously think he would've gotten nailed by that slow and sloppy punch when he was in his twenties? At his best, Jones could've dodged that punch and throw a left hook to knock Johnson out in a single move.

If Jones didn't want to box anymore, he wouldn't. He never really seemed too interested in boxing anyways. He probably loved basketball more than boxing. Why would he box if he lost his will and didn't want to anymore?

Roy is a fairly smart guy. He always seemed like the type of fighter to retire before he was done. I guess i was wrong.

Yeah, yeah, yeah... you are right G-D defeated ROY JONES....that's it.

You even said it yourself, "RJJ was genetically gifted...".

I think he said "WAS" because that WAS the last time RJJ goes near a boxing ring unless he has a tuxedo on & a microphone in his hand.

Yes old. So what if the other guy was 35? People age differently. Lennox Lewis got better with age, arguably, Arhie Moore as well. Simply look at Roger Clemens and Barry Bonds. Some athletes hit their prime late in their career. Others such as Wilfred Benitez, Wilfredo Gomez, etc. burn out early.

You even said it yourself, "RJJ was genetically gifted...". The key word is "was". He could no longer do the things he did in his prime. Do you seriously think he would've gotten nailed by that slow and sloppy punch when he was in his twenties? At his best, Jones could've dodged that punch and throw a left hook to knock Johnson out in a single move.

If Jones didn't want to box anymore, he wouldn't. He never really seemed too interested in boxing anyways. He probably loved basketball more than boxing. Why would he box if he lost his will and didn't want to anymore?

Roy is a fairly smart guy. He always seemed like the type of fighter to retire before he was done. I guess i was wrong.

Like I said, he looked slow not cuz he's old, he lost his will. No the old RJJ wouldn't have gotten hit with that punch because the old RJJ wouldn't have fought lazy like that and allow him to be backed into the ropes. He would box even if he lost his will because the money is good. If you were good at what you were doing and get paid millions each fight, wouldn't you mind boxing a few more fights?

**about RJJ "was" genetically gifted. Lemme rephrase that. RJJ IS genetically gifted. Happy? And Nich got what I meant.

No one gets that old that fast. He put on a show against Ruiz just over a year ago. I do agree that Tarver took something out of him. He could have gotten it back, but what for? He was already the best...anyweyz, at least that's my opinion.

I simply don't buy the fact that he lost his will. Like i previously stated, i didn't think he ever put all of his heart into this sport. And i don't think he continued to fight for money. He's pretty much set for life.

It is still my personal belief that his physical gifts simply diminished. It showed in the first Tarver fight and i think it even showed in the Clinton Woods fight. Even though he was completely dominating, he was being nailed far more often than usual and even had a puffy eye. It wasn't much, but i think that was the beginning of his downfall.

That's my opinion and you have yours. I suppose we'll have to agree to disagree.

Damn and whats sad. This thread is 6 years old now and Roy is still fighting.