Who would win this fight if they both were in their prime? It's simply folks. I'll put up a poll, too.

Who would win this fight if they both were in their prime? It's simply folks. I'll put up a poll, too.
hey you stole my thread :mad: only joking man

Who would win this fight if they both were in their prime? It's simply folks. I'll put up a poll, too.


Prime for Prime, people say that DM was too aggressive and would outwork Jones. Johnson did that against a FADING Jones jr. Roy would pick DM apart as he came in and carve him into a bloody mess before DM gets stopped. Just my humble opinion.

Jones by comfortable decision...DM may have a nice moment or two but Jones would do him like any other guy that he fought in his prime. DM wasn't special enough to beat Jones.

Since you insist that everyone put their two cents in, I picked the safe choice and that was Roy by UD. Of course my opinion means squat, especially since I never seen a Michalczewski fight and I know very little about him.

What I don't get is some people use to say (before Roy loss back to back) that Michalczewski would have beaten him, and had nothing to support their claim (besides the fact that he could/would outwork Jones and set the pace), and all the sudden Roy gets KO'd and they base their opinion on those fights. Swarming prime Roy Jones didn't work, and boxing prime Roy Jones sure as hell didn't work...so I'll pick Roy by UD...Michalczewski, if he is like what some people say he is, would probably show the heart of a champ in the later rounds after being down by 4 rounds on the score cards, but it would be too late..

roy by tko in 7, he would use dm's aggression against him, and basically beat his ass

Since you insist that everyone put their two cents in, I picked the safe choice and that was Roy by UD. Of course my opinion means squat, especially since I never seen a Michalczewski fight and I know very little about him.

What I don't get is some people use to say (before Roy loss back to back) that Michalczewski would have beaten him, and had nothing to support their claim (besides the fact that he could/would outwork Jones and set the pace), and all the sudden Roy gets KO'd and they base their opinion on those fights. Swarming prime Roy Jones didn't work, and boxing prime Roy Jones sure as hell didn't work...so I'll pick Roy by UD...Michalczewski, if he is like what some people say he is, would probably show the heart of a champ in the later rounds after being down by 4 rounds on the score cards, but it would be too late..

Michalczewski did not storm in his prime he stalked in and moved forward but he did not neccessarily swarm but he would swarm after he landed his straight lefts, he always works off a very fast accurate and damaging left left jab and he is quick on his feet even though in alot of fights he eats alot of leather coming in. I guarantee Michalczewski would be able to land his left againt any version of Jones and Jones would not be able to take it. One of the straight lefts would stagger Jones, Michalczewski would move in with power combos and brutally KO him.

No one is going to pick DM because no one here has seen him fight. And the fact that more people think that Roy would win by TKO or KO just shows how stupid most of the people who are voting here really are.

Wow, talk about getting desperate. No one is going to pick DM because no one here has seen him fight. And the fact that more people think that Roy would win by TKO or KO just shows how stupid most of the people who are voting here really are.


Basically its you and McKay against the rest of the forum...

I would pick Jones by decision in a more competitive fight than most think. Michalczewski was no bum in his prime but he wasn't good enough to beat a prime Jones in my opinion.

Basically its you and McKay against the rest of the forum...

LOL pretty much. This place is pretty one sided, but ESB is pretty even when it comes to RJJ vs. DM arguments.

D.M. was a decent fighter yes. Could he beat RJJ? hell no. His limited style and headmovement would be his demise. Though not saying he is the slowest, he is a monolith in comparison to most fighters he faced. Literally his only chance would be to catch RJJ with a clean punch, something I dont think he could do in his prime, or now. Roy would counter basically everything he threw, and make him look silly as hell. It would be the same as Roy fighting Jirov, at heavyweight. He would simply outclass him, and make him look bad...winning a decision in the process. RJJ is far and away too crafty to lose to DM IMO.

He would "show off" in the fight as well, "shotgun pumps", "game**** moves" etc. Would be a fugging nightmare for DM. He would be lucky to win a couple of rounds, if not get knocked out.

I am unsure which would happen, K.O. or Dec Roy.

So, Neuraxis, what are you saying? :(

ESB > BS :confused:

So, Neuraxis, what are you saying? :(

ESB > BS :confused:

No not really. ESB has a lot more DM fans, but then again it has a lot more trolls. It also seems to have a weird obsession with Wlad making gay threads like Wlad vs. Godzilla and such.

Basically its you and McKay against the rest of the forum...

Count me in. :)

I've stated my opinion on this more than once.

I've only seen limited footage of DM against Harmon and Hill I think...he was pretty skilled and had a good left hand from what I saw (he landed a couple good shots on Hill's chin). I still think Jones was too quick to be caught and would win a decision, but I don't think that he'd KO DM unless he really hit him with a couple of nasty punches in succession. If anyone would be KO'd it'd most likely be Jones, but I dont think that would happen either.

I have DVDs of all of Roys fights and I've seen most of DM fights live on TV. So I think I know what I'm talking bout. Doesn't mean that my opinion is worth more but I'd like to state that I got that impression after watching all major fights of the two.

Jones Jr. is a gifted athelete, maybe one of the most gifted who ever particpated in professional boxing. But that doesn't mean that he is the best boxer or technician I've ever seen in his weight class. He's got some weaknesses in his defense and his concentration seems to be gone for some moments in some fights. This never really hurt him because he was too quick and too powerfull for all his opponents he met in his prime. And that's one of the major points. He never fought anyone even close to DM's aggression, power, durability.

Of course the same goes for DM, as he never faced a fighter like Roy. The questions are:
1. Would DM be able to deal with the spead and the unorthodoxe boxing interpretation of Jones Jr.?
2. Would Roy be able to deal with the power, the workload and the heart of DM?

My personal answer is that Roy would outpoint Dariusz but never get to the 12th round. It's not an early KO because of Roys underrated determination once he's in the ring but Dariusz would be to much for Jones to handle considering his experience in his prime. Jones wouldn't be allowed to showboat or to lose his focus even for a second. Prime DM had all the tools to catch Roy and unleash a combo of hooks that Jones couldn't have defended. I could go on and on but I think you got my point. I see Jones Jr. dropping his right, catching a left, taking a step backwards, ducking a right hook, catching a left hook and being hit with everything but the kitchen sink.

Location... Munich

Yeah, sorry, I didn't mention that I'm totally biased. Especially if it comes to boxers of polish origin. Can I assume that you root for Ruiz because he fights in the USA?

Man that post was above retarded. You must've ignored everything I posted over the last couple of months.

Yeah, sorry, I didn't mention that I'm totally biased. Especially if it comes to boxers of polish origin. Can I assume that you root for Ruiz because he fights in the USA?

Man that post was above retarded. You must've ignored everything I posted over the last couple of months.


Whatever Dude you biased Euro fighter lover... :rolleyes: :D

Relax, Mate. For some strange reason I thought DM fought in Germany all of the time.

Relax, Mate. For some strange reason I thought DM fought in Germany all of the time.

1. You're totally wrong. He boxed in Poland and Portugal as well.

2. It was Jones Jr. who never moved out of the USA and fought lots of fight in Pensacola.

3. Now do you root for Ruiz?

Whatever Dude you biased Euro fighter lover... :rolleyes: :D

You didn't know yet that I'm Tatyanas 3rd nick? I like the beautiful words you're writing though. :D

I think it was just yesterday when I argued with Neuraxis over Toney and Wladimir...

Lets See...
50 fights.
2 outside Germany.
Managers name: Klaus-Peter Kohl

How silly of me to assume he fights out of Germany.

Lets see...
50 fights
50 fights outside of his hometown
49 fights outside of his country

Roy Jones on the other hand...
52 fights
12 fights in his hometown
52 fights in his country

By the way: have you watched DMs fights with Graciano Rocchigiani? Who do you think was the fan favourite?

Lets see...
50 fights
50 fights outside of his hometown
49 fights outside of his country

Roy Jones on the other hand...
52 fights
12 fights in his hometown
52 fights in his country

What's that got to do with where DM fights out of?
I merely thought that DM fought out of Germany, and the facts seem to back it up.
We all know RJJ has never wanted to travel since he lost the Olympics. That's not in dispute.

What's that got to do with where DM fights out of?
I merely thought that DM fought out of Germany, and the facts seem to back it up.
We all know RJJ has never wanted to travel since he lost the Olympics. That's not in dispute.

Well, the point is that Jones Jr. was a fan favourite when he was boxing because he was american, glamorous and good.

DM instead was more like tolerated and accepted because he was good and trained in Germany. When he fought Graciano only very few Germans rooted for him.

You realize that there is a difference?

This is really retarded. Someone can't post an opinion on DM because he is from Munich even though DM was POLISH not German. Does everyone's comments here in support of Jones mean nothing if they are from the U.S. I think not.

What I don't get is some people use to say (before Roy loss back to back) that Michalczewski would have beaten him, and had nothing to support their claim (besides the fact that he could/would outwork Jones and set the pace)

That's not entirely accurate as most of the arguments had to do with Roy's intentional avoidance for whatever reason of heavy hitters.

I think DM had a very good chance of beating Roy. DM had that pressure, come forward style that Roy does not like. Roy had the quickness, but back then DM just walked you down and didn't stop, threw ALOT of punches, and was the agressor.

Very similar to how Roy lost his last fight against G Johnson.

Yeah, that wasn't a prime Roy, but Roy never liked fighters walking him down and pressuring him. He liked to stay right in the middle of the ring and potshot and move and circle. Roy even would potshot and hurt someone and move AWAY. He did not like the inside pressure war, and that's what DM would have done with him.

That is partially the reason Roy avoided him. The other is the mainstream US fans had no clue who DM was, but they would have if Roy lost to him. Why should Roy make this guy? They didn't offer him enough money or reasons to do it, really. Roy is a business man, not a warrior. He could care less about what fights boxing media and hardcore fans wanted him to take. The boxing writers begged him for 2-3 years in these editorial pieces about how Roy was a paper champ if he didn't beat DM. Roy wasn't stupid- he knew he didn't need to take that risk. And he didn't. The irony is- if he had taken it, and won (which is likely, but of course far from certain) he could have walked away from boxing after Ruiz and been a complete legend. As it is, he will be remembered more for his losses than his wins- because he didn't have any memorable wars and he had more fights against bums who were outmatched like Glen Kelly than memorable wins against top talent.

The real question is- knowing what he does now- if it was 97 again, would Roy take on DM? I think he would- or at least be more likely.

Dariusz Tiger Michalczewski :boxing: by brutal KO :boxing: