Vote here. I'm very neutral when it comes to these two. This is really a pick-ems fight. You have the one guy who always finds a way to win no matter what and you have Lesnar who seems unstoppable (outside of the rookie mistake he made against Mir). Who wins this and how? I'd like to give the edge to Fedor only because we've only seen a few Brock fights and it's still hard to tell if he can be hurt or if he's really the monster his fans say he is. I like both these guys and it's a shame we might not ever see this fight. Fedors fans say he's the best p4p Mixed Martial Artist in the world so how would the unstoppable force fair against the immovable object.

i think fedor would win. I mean i think rogers would be a better match up for lesnar at this point. Lesnar would rush in with no caution like he always does which is something you dont do with someone who has good stand up and good ground game..fedor has a great chin and he proved that when he was getting ground and pounded by rogers.

i think fedor would win. I mean i think rogers would be a better match up for lesnar at this point. Lesnar would rush in with no caution like he always does which is something you dont do with someone who has good stand up and good ground game..fedor has a great chin and he proved that when he was getting ground and pounded by rogers.

I for one think Rogers punches harder than Brock but Brock is alot stronger. Does that make sense?

I for one think Rogers punches harder than Brock but Brock is alot stronger. Does that make sense?

I makes a lot of sense, Brock is a strong wrestler and Rogers is a powerful striker.

Strength and punch power are two different things completely.

Back on the Fedor v Lesnar subject, i think Fedors stand up game is the big difference in this fight. Brock hasnt been in with a top class striker yet. If Brock can take him down he will cause him big problems, i just have a feeling that Fedor would blast him out of there with punches if they mat.

I makes a lot of sense, Brock is a strong wrestler and Rogers is a powerful striker.

Strength and punch power are two different things completely.

Back on the Fedor v Lesnar subject, i think Fedors stand up game is the big difference in this fight. Brock hasnt been in with a top class striker yet. If Brock can take him down he will cause him big problems, i just have a feeling that Fedor would blast him out of there with punches if they mat.

I agree. It's hard to call because we've seen Fedor for years and know what he brings. With Brock, it's like you said, he hasn't been in with a top striker though (and I could be wrong) he seems like he would have a great chin. If it was anyone but Fedor I'd put big money on Brock, it's just that Fedor always wins (I don't know how he does it!) even though he's been in trouble a few times.

I agree. It's hard to call because we've seen Fedor for years and know what he brings. With Brock, it's like you said, he hasn't been in with a top striker though (and I could be wrong) he seems like he would have a great chin. If it was anyone but Fedor I'd put big money on Brock, it's just that Fedor always wins (I don't know how he does it!) even though he's been in trouble a few times.

Strange thing is that Fedor has looked beatable in his last 2 fights as though he may be slipping a touch, but still manages to win both fights by brutal 1 punch ko's.

Lesnar had trouble with Randy's hands and got hurt by a Mir knee, Fedor would KO him easily if the fight stays on their feet.
On the ground it's pretty even, Lesnar has great ground control and powerful elbows, he could make him bleed like a pork. Fedor has great armbars from his back, much faster hips and sweeps than Mir.

Fedor by sub.....

Strange thing is that Fedor has looked beatable in his last 2 fights as though he may be slipping a touch, but still manages to win both fights by brutal 1 punch ko's.

That's very true I honest for one second that Andrei was going to KO him. If he would have kept boxing and not gone in for that dumb flying knee he would have took that. Maybe Fedor has peaked and is on the back side of his prime:dunno:

That's very true I honest for one second that Andrei was going to KO him. If he would have kept boxing and not gone in for that dumb flying knee he would have took that. Maybe Fedor has peaked and is on the back side of his prime:dunno:

That's bull****, Fedor has always looked human, that's part of what is so great about him, his ability to change his gameplan and find a way to win when he's in trouble. Randleman's Suplex, Fugita's Right Hand, Arvloski's boxing, CroCop's kicks, Rogers size, they all have one thing in common, they worked for a minute before Fedor found a way too win...

Lesnar had trouble with Randy's hands and got hurt by a Mir knee, Fedor would KO him easily if the fight stays on their feet.
On the ground it's pretty even, Lesnar has great ground control and powerful elbows, he could make him bleed like a pork. Fedor has great armbars from his back, much faster hips and sweeps than Mir.

I'm just wondering if Fedor might suffer the same problem as Randy where he'd have the much better hands but wouldn't be able to deal the Lesnars reach (which I think is second best in UFC after Jon Jones? <-- Don't quote me on that)..Then again Randy likes to fight inside

I'm just wondering if Fedor might suffer the same problem as Randy where he'd have the much better hands but wouldn't be able to deal the Lesnars reach (which I think is second best in UFC after Jon Jones? <-- Don't quote me on that)..Then again Randy likes to fight inside

Rogers reach is as long as Brocks I think, 84 inches?

That's bull****, Fedor has always looked human, that's part of what is so great about him, his ability to change his gameplan and find a way to win when he's in trouble. Randleman's Suplex, Fugita's Right Hand, Arvloski's boxing, CroCop's kicks, Rogers size, they all have one thing in common, they worked for a minute before Fedor found a way too win...

He has and that's why he's so exciting to watch but Rogers is super green and Arlovski lost on his own stupidity. Fedor threw a wild punch as Dumbo went up for a flying knee. He's still the best HW on the planet hands down but I just think he might be entering the back half of his prime that's all...Not saying he's past it

Rogers reach is as long as Brocks I think, 84 inches?

Is it? I don't remember the tale of the tape.. If that's the case then yeah I don't see Brock giving him problems on his feet

That's bull****, Fedor has always looked human, that's part of what is so great about him, his ability to change his gameplan and find a way to win when he's in trouble. Randleman's Suplex, Fugita's Right Hand, Arvloski's boxing, CroCop's kicks, Rogers size, they all have one thing in common, they worked for a minute before Fedor found a way too win...

exactly, fedor has often been in bad positions in fights, stupid noobs who have only ever watched youtube highlights of his fights expect him to be this human wrecking machine and run through all his opponents, if they'd actually watched his previous fights they would know he doesn't do this.

exactly, fedor has often been in bad positions in fights, stupid noobs who have only ever watched youtube highlights of his fights expect him to be this human wrecking machine and run through all his opponents, if they'd actually watched his previous fights they would know he doesn't do this.

I've seen his fights if you're talking about what I said and calling me a noob. I'm well aware he's been rocked and I was only talking about the AA fight. It was the first time I saw Fedor dominated from the opening bell. It wasn't like before where he's been in trouble. It was the first time he looked like he didn't know what to do so he threw a wild punch and lucky for him AA was flying in with a knee at the time.

I've seen his fights if you're talking about what I said and calling me a noob. I'm well aware he's been rocked and I was only talking about the AA fight. It was the first time I saw Fedor dominated from the opening bell. It wasn't like before where he's been in trouble. It was the first time he looked like he didn't know what to do so he threw a wild punch and lucky for him AA was flying in with a knee at the time.


It was only 3 minutes into the first round guy. We know that clean strikers land on Fedor, look at the Crocop fight. Fedor adapts and overcomes....

I've seen his fights if you're talking about what I said and calling me a noob. I'm well aware he's been rocked and I was only talking about the AA fight. It was the first time I saw Fedor dominated from the opening bell. It wasn't like before where he's been in trouble. It was the first time he looked like he didn't know what to do so he threw a wild punch and lucky for him AA was flying in with a knee at the time.

Arlovski is a professional athlete who has landed with the flying knee on lesser opponents and was foolish enough to drop his hands and try it against Fedor. The hands dropped, Fedor pulled the trigger and Arlovski was asleep before he hit the canvas.

I've seen his fights if you're talking about what I said and calling me a noob. I'm well aware he's been rocked and I was only talking about the AA fight. It was the first time I saw Fedor dominated from the opening bell. It wasn't like before where he's been in trouble. It was the first time he looked like he didn't know what to do so he threw a wild punch and lucky for him AA was flying in with a knee at the time.

I wasn't referring to you, just people in general, anyhow, I disagree with that, fedor was feeling arlovski out, lulling him into a false sense of security, that's what he often does, then the second arlovski made a mistake bang he gets ko'd, that's what makes fedor so great, his ability to adjust and capitalise on any mistake. and that was FAR from a lucky punch.

It was only 3 minutes into the first round guy. We know that clean strikers land on Fedor, look at the Crocop fight. Fedor adapts and overcomes....

No doubt and he's the master at that but I think in this case it was the one time in over 30 fights where Fedor got lucky (I rarely ever use this term because I'm not a big believer in it). I say that because he didn't really adjust to AA's boxing . Instead he threw the same wild swing he was previously throwing but this time AA happened to be coming in with a flying knee. It did prove that Fedor was the better fighter because the better fighter wouldn't have made that mistake. I just can't help but to wonder how long can a guy stay prime?

I wasn't referring to you, just people in general, anyhow, I disagree with that, fedor was feeling arlovski out, lulling him into a false sense of security, that's what he often does, then the second arlovski made a mistake bang he gets ko'd, that's what makes fedor so great, his ability to adjust and capitalise on any mistake. and that was FAR from a lucky punch.

I respectfully disagree. Guess we just saw it differently. Green K given though for a good explanation from your point of view.

http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/0807/the-many-moods-of-fedor-mma-ufc-fedor-affliction-fight-fight-demotivational-poster-1216879860.jpg

http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/0807/the-many-moods-of-fedor-mma-ufc-fedor-affliction-fight-fight-demotivational-poster-1216879860.jpg

hahahahaha

Fedor by sub.....

co-sign :smashfrea

Fedor by Sub? I think its much more likely he gets a KO standing up, Brock Lesnar is a 265+ (significantly more on fight night) blanket when he's on the ground, he will be the one on top (NCAA D1). Fedor hopefully is storng enough enough to get out of that position if they do end up going to the ground. But I still believe a KO standing up is much more likely.

As for AA vs Fedor, I disagree that Fedor took those shots in the process of feeling him out, he was getting backed into the corner and AA got stupid, plain and simple. Coupled with his now exposed glass jaw, easy KO for Fedor (agreeing on the part where whoever it was said Fedor is great at capitlizing on mistakes).

No way Fedor was feeling AA out in the early stages of their fight, he was off the pace. AA made an error and Fedor being the class fighter that he is capitalized on it.

Brock has nothing Fedor except size and better wrestling which, right now looks more like tackling that traditional takedowns.

Fedor has experience, mental composure, master at transitioning, striking and grappling edge as well.

Fedor by TKO early.

facing fedor, you can NEVER afford to make mistakes... even if you seem to be getting the upperhand.

Aleks has said that Fedor hasn't been training properly latley and is to busy with apperances an over seas celebrity stuff so if this is the case it would give another edge to Lesnar in this fight, for other reasons i think Lesnar would win check out the other Fedor threads i posted in :lol1:
Aleks hasn't really had any praise for M1 or Fedor i wonder if they had a falling out or he just dont' like M-1?

He could be frustrated not really being able to fight due to Hep-B.

Hepatitis B? i thought that was just a rumor, that sucks if its true Aleks is another fighter i'd love to see test the UFC heavyweight waters.
i originally read it was Visa Issues that kept him from fighting in the States because of his backround.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2008/7/23/577542/aleksander-emelianenko-pos

http://www.mmamadhouse.com/aleksander-emelianenko-tests-positive-for-hepatitis-b/


During a recent video interview conducted by Life.ru, Aleksander Emelianenko addressed speculation that he tested positive for Hepatitis B prior to his scheduled bout with Paul Buentello at Affliction "Banned."

The Russian Red Devils member denied the rumor and claimed that absolutely nothing is wrong with him physically. Apparently unaware of how strict the CSAC is, he claims that he was simply late in getting his Visa which caused his removal from the bout.

He says that according to the CSAC he was supposed to be tested on 13th. He only received a visa on 14th and came to US on 15th. He was hoping that they would be able to still work everything out – but apparently the CSAC is very strict on everything.

Until we find out the hard facts regarding this issue, we can only speculate. He could of course be denying the allegations to protect his reputation.

We will keep you posted on any new details regarding this story

You may be right.

Vote here. I'm very neutral when it comes to these two. This is really a pick-ems fight. You have the one guy who always finds a way to win no matter what and you have Lesnar who seems unstoppable (outside of the rookie mistake he made against Mir). Who wins this and how? I'd like to give the edge to Fedor only because we've only seen a few Brock fights and it's still hard to tell if he can be hurt or if he's really the monster his fans say he is. I like both these guys and it's a shame we might not ever see this fight. Fedors fans say he's the best p4p Mixed Martial Artist in the world so how would the unstoppable force fair against the immovable object.

sorry, this aint no "pick-ems fight". lesnar would not make it out of the 1st round alive.

No doubt and he's the master at that but I think in this case it was the one time in over 30 fights where Fedor got lucky (I rarely ever use this term because I'm not a big believer in it). I say that because he didn't really adjust to AA's boxing . Instead he threw the same wild swing he was previously throwing but this time AA happened to be coming in with a flying knee. It did prove that Fedor was the better fighter because the better fighter wouldn't have made that mistake. I just can't help but to wonder how long can a guy stay prime?



That punch wasnt a wild punch, Fedor saw holes in AA's game and waited for it to happen again. That punch and the scenario was practiced by Fedor.

1:50 mark......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyOQGY_4r9U

Fedor by Sub? I think its much more likely he gets a KO standing up, Brock Lesnar is a 265+ (significantly more on fight night) blanket when he's on the ground, he will be the one on top (NCAA D1). Fedor hopefully is storng enough enough to get out of that position if they do end up going to the ground. But I still believe a KO standing up is much more likely.

As for AA vs Fedor, I disagree that Fedor took those shots in the process of feeling him out, he was getting backed into the corner and AA got stupid, plain and simple. Coupled with his now exposed glass jaw, easy KO for Fedor (agreeing on the part where whoever it was said Fedor is great at capitlizing on mistakes).



What is so special with NCAA wrestling? Im pretty sure Fedor has faced up agaisnt and beaten far better wrestlers. He has also fought far better boxers and far heavier and taller people. Im sorry but I cont see Brock winning at all, wether standing or on the ground.