View Full Version : Morales or Barrera


Mick Hucknall
03-31-2005, 12:01 PM
Lets make it a poll. Who do you thinks better.

cmason
03-31-2005, 12:07 PM
morales is the better boxer, but because of their hatred of each other, the fights they have had have by and large been wars, which suits barrera better. having said that, the reason their fights have been so close is because there's not much between them, they are very well matched. morales is a better boxer, barrera is a better fighter.

puppy_dogg
03-31-2005, 12:11 PM
i like that mason :D
i agree with that, but im biased cause i like morales better

morales!

JOM'S
03-31-2005, 12:15 PM
I am undecided, on their last fight I rooted for Marco but if they will fight a 4th time I am leaning on Erik ...

mauricio95
03-31-2005, 12:38 PM
erik morales 100%

.::|ULTIMATE|::.
03-31-2005, 12:44 PM
Erik is the better boxer.

Mab is very skilled too though.

puppy_dogg
03-31-2005, 12:46 PM
none for the great barrera?

where you at mexico city! stand up! :D

adeelr
03-31-2005, 01:30 PM
Both fighter's have different things that make them what they are, it cannot be decided as to who is the better one..Barrera has beaten Morales twice, but Morales has beaten the one boxer that ko'd barrera, therefore the answere to the question cannot be answered with absolute certainty even if there is another Barrera vs. Morales.

RwK
03-31-2005, 01:41 PM
Barrera has had the longer, better career. Hands down. Morales is the better fighter right now, but If you had to look at "all time"....M.A.B. is a better overall fighter.

AintGottaClue
03-31-2005, 01:43 PM
styles make fights, barrera is better then morales when they face off if u talkign about overall id go with morales

Truth
03-31-2005, 02:45 PM
styles make fights, barrera is better then morales when they face off if u talkign about overall id go with morales

I agree overall Morales is better...

.::|ULTIMATE|::.
03-31-2005, 03:12 PM
Both fighter's have different things that make them what they are, it cannot be decided as to who is the better one..Barrera has beaten Morales twice, but Morales has beaten the one boxer that ko'd barrera, therefore the answere to the question cannot be answered with absolute certainty even if there is another Barrera vs. Morales.

Morales beat both boxers that koed Barrera.

jchavez12345
03-31-2005, 03:22 PM
Very close match up, if they fought again, i would go for morales

Sir_Jose
03-31-2005, 03:22 PM
Barrera has had the longer, better career. Hands down. Morales is the better fighter right now, but If you had to look at "all time"....M.A.B. is a better overall fighter.


are you high?

Look at there carrers and compare there level of competion its not even close. Morales has fought at such a higher level its not even funny. There is really honestly no way you can make a case for MAB having a better career he's been way to up and down and hasn't fought the level of competion Morales has.

RwK
03-31-2005, 03:28 PM
are you high?

Look at there carrers and compare there level of competion its not even close. Morales has fought at such a higher level its not even funny. There is really honestly no way you can make a case for MAB having a better career he's been way to up and down and hasn't fought the level of competion Morales has.

Barrera:

26-3 in title fights.

Morales

27-2

That is pretty damn close though. You say me being "high" is merely your opinion. Aesthetically, M.A.B. is a more impressive fighter to me. And the level of competition they faced was very similar. I dont know where you are getting the "its not funny" part. That is ridiculous. And BTW Barrera beat Morales, as well as a prime Naz.


Look at there carrers and compare there level of competion its not even close..

God that is so ignorant

Mick Hucknall
03-31-2005, 03:38 PM
no one even listens to you any more man.

RwK
03-31-2005, 03:49 PM
no one even listens to you any more man.

Speak for yourself Gazeebo. Go and sit in the shade for a minute.

mic573
03-31-2005, 03:53 PM
I think Barrera will always get the better of Morales. I had him winning all three of thier fights but Morales will go down as the greater fighter.

Sir_Jose
03-31-2005, 03:57 PM
Barrera:

26-3 in title fights.

Morales

27-2

That is pretty damn close though. You say me being "high" is merely your opinion. Aesthetically, M.A.B. is a more impressive fighter to me. And the level of competition they faced was very similar. I dont know where you are getting the "its not funny" part. That is ridiculous. And BTW Barrera beat Morales, as well as a prime Naz.



God that is so ignorant

Like I said try and make a case for MAB fighting better competition than Morales. You cant do it.

MAB burst onto the sceen aginst Kenedy McKinney, then he losses to Junior Jones the same year. That was in 1996, then he fights NO ONE until 2000. Sandwiched inbetween his fights with Morales, Hamed and Pac there all has been's or never was.

Yes he beat Naz, but is there anyone on the planet that doesn't think Morales would beaten Hamed aswell? I like Naz and am a Naz fan, but fact is fact he was nowhere as good as people thought he was. please compare there records.

.::|ULTIMATE|::.
03-31-2005, 04:01 PM
Bigger recognizable name Victories, (If common opponent, i will mark it under who beat them first)

Barrera:

Erik Morales UD and UD
Johnny Tapia UD
Naseem Hamed UD
Jesus Salud TKO
Kennedy Mckinney TKO
Eddie Croft TKO
Agapito Sanchez UD

Morales:

Manny Pacquiao UD
Marco Antonio Barrera UD
Carlos Hernandes UD
Jesus Chavez UD
Guty Espadas UD and KO
Paulie Ayala UD
Angel Chacon KO
Injin Chi UD
Kevin Kelley TKO
Wayne McCullough UD
Junior Jones TKO
Daniel Zaragoza KO

Common Opponents for Referrence:

Manny Pacquiao: Morales W12 2005 / Barrera L11 2003
Paulie Ayala: Morales W12 2002 / Barrera W10 2004
Kevin Kelley: Morales W7 2000 / Barrera W4 2003
Eddie Croft : Morales W3 2003 / Barrera W7 1995
Junior Jones: Morales W4 1998 / Barrera L5 L12 1996, 1997

Morales' career is better, higher competition, more often.

The Troll
03-31-2005, 04:05 PM
I think they need to fight again. Everybody has to know who is La Champion De Mexico.
http://www.lausd.k12.ca.us/Kennedy_HS/students/fall_2003/wbc.jpg

amaru
03-31-2005, 04:30 PM
voted for barrera, ive already stated my reasons in another thread. i just think both fighters have fought tough opposition in their careers, the deciding factor comes down to who has won more times against each other and thats barrera.

i just wanna know this morales fans, do you really think morales will be satisfied when his career ends and he sees 2 losses on his record against the man he hated most in boxing, the man he was supposed to defeat in november 27th by KO?? if he beat barrera in their last fight then i would have given the nod to morales as mexicos best but i cant based on the fact that both fighters have fought quality opposition, morales has lost twice to barrera and 130lb aint even barreras weight.

in my opinion, barrera on the other hand would want to settle the score with manny pacquaio before he retires and if he wins he could retire very satisfied with what he has done in boxing, so can morales, i just think that if anyone wants a barrera vs morales fight more, it morales and not barrera. barrera aint got nothing to prove to morales.

RwK
03-31-2005, 04:32 PM
if he beat barrera in their last fight then i would have given the nod to morales as mexicos best but i cant based on the fact that both fighters have fought quality opposition, morales has lost twice to barrera and 130lb aint even barreras weight.
.

That is my point. It is like people saying Thomas Hearns was a better overall fighter than Hagler. Even though Hagler kicked his ass, and Hagler was the better overall fighter. It makes no sense. The same for Tyson and Holyfield. Some even have the nerve to say "Tyson" was better. That is absurd. He got re-arranged by Holy. Same situation here.

.::|ULTIMATE|::.
03-31-2005, 04:50 PM
Of course Morales wont be satisfied, thats what makes him, him. But you tell me who can hold his head up higher the man who lost 2 of 3 to his hated opponent that could easily be more like draw or a victory for him, and a career filled with victories over the higher quality opposition throughout which includes fighters that stopped his rival.

Or the man got brutally stopped twice by opponents his hated rival beat convicingly, which also enjoys a better decorated career than himself.He has 2 official wins out of 3 fights that were so close they could have been draws or wins for the other guy.

I personally choose the first.

Morales has the better career, more wins over higher quality opponents.

mauricio95
03-31-2005, 04:55 PM
voted for barrera, ive already stated my reasons in another thread. i just think both fighters have fought tough opposition in their careers, the deciding factor comes down to who has won more times against each other and thats barrera.

i just wanna know this morales fans, do you really think morales will be satisfied when his career ends and he sees 2 losses on his record against the man he hated most in boxing, the man he was supposed to defeat in november 27th by KO?? if he beat barrera in their last fight then i would have given the nod to morales as mexicos best but i cant based on the fact that both fighters have fought quality opposition, morales has lost twice to barrera and 130lb aint even barreras weight.

in my opinion, barrera on the other hand would want to settle the score with manny pacquaio before he retires and if he wins he could retire very satisfied with what he has done in boxing, so can morales, i just think that if anyone wants a barrera vs morales fight more, it morales and not barrera. barrera aint got nothing to prove to morales.

I have to disagree with you. NOBODY OWNS MORALES. Pac own MAB. Thats owning. MAB and Morales have had 3 competitve fights which MAB got the better of in 2 of them. They were all close fights and anyone who can't agree on that is either blind, bias, or don't know how to score a fight.

oldgringo
03-31-2005, 05:13 PM
There's a nice argument for both guys, but when you factor in everything outside of their 3 even as you can get fights, Morales comes out on top.

Palma
03-31-2005, 05:19 PM
morales is the better boxer, but because of their hatred of each other, the fights they have had have by and large been wars, which suits barrera better. having said that, the reason their fights have been so close is because there's not much between them, they are very well matched. morales is a better boxer, barrera is a better fighter.

I see your point, but does that mean that Barrera would kill Morales in a street fight?

Kimmy
03-31-2005, 05:23 PM
Morales is a thug! Barrera is the brains of the operation. Barrera out thugs the thug, Morales out thinks the brains. Go figure!!

Martin (Top Knowledge)
03-31-2005, 05:30 PM
Such a tough question... I think in the end it comes down to opinion.

Morales has had such a fantastic career but I do think that Barerra's got his number!

But that doesn't mean that Barerra's better... Different outcomes on who they both fight!

I'm afraid I have to go with the "undecided"

Palma
03-31-2005, 05:30 PM
I noticed that Morales is winning on the poll. I have to be honest and say that I voted for Morales, but I didn't really digest the question (who is better, Morales or MAB?) I think the reason I quickly voted for Morales is due to the large amount of postitive publicity he has been having lately due to his win over the Pac Man. So my question to the audience is this, would you have chosen differently if Morales had lost to the Pac Man? Would you still favor him over MAB?

abdiel2k3
03-31-2005, 05:34 PM
for me Morales
i liek his style better
both can fight
but morales is just has a more pleasen style
barreras countering compared to morales fight style gets boring
for me
EM has da better chin
has more power
and lil more skilled
someone said mabs had a better record
hows that
hes lost to 3 diff fighters
3 times by KO
been down b4

morales only lost to one guy
and its becuz he chooses to fight the pther guys fight
and hes only been down once

.::|ULTIMATE|::.
03-31-2005, 05:40 PM
for me Morales
i liek his style better
both can fight
but morales is just has a more pleasen style
barreras countering compared to morales fight style gets boring
for me
EM has da better chin
has more power
and lil more skilled
someone said mabs had a better record
hows that
hes lost to 3 diff fighters
3 times by KO
been down b4

morales only lost to one guy
and its becuz he chooses to fight the pther guys fight
and hes only been down once

which even though it was scored a KD wasnt really a KD it was a push. Clearly viewable in the slow mo replay.

amaru
03-31-2005, 06:31 PM
for me Morales
i liek his style better
both can fight
but morales is just has a more pleasen style
barreras countering compared to morales fight style gets boring
for me
EM has da better chin
has more power
and lil more skilled
someone said mabs had a better record
hows that
hes lost to 3 diff fighters
3 times by KO
been down b4

morales only lost to one guy
and its becuz he chooses to fight the pther guys fight
and hes only been down once

barreras been KO'd twice, not 3 times, when he lost to morales it was on points. also i know morales is a devastating puncher but i got a question for morales fans, do you think hes power was at his best at 122lbs, 126lb or even 130lb, it seems to me he aint got the same KO effect on his punches at 130lb, still a heavy hitter tho :boxing:

oldgringo
03-31-2005, 07:44 PM
barreras been KO'd twice, not 3 times, when he lost to morales it was on points. also i know morales is a devastating puncher but i got a question for morales fans, do you think hes power was at his best at 122lbs, 126lb or even 130lb, it seems to me he aint got the same KO effect on his punches at 130lb, still a heavy hitter tho :boxing:


Morales had very very good power at 122...seen in his fights with Ramirez, Jones, and Zaragoza. His straight and overhand right were explosive. He had good power at 126 and his power at 130 is about the same as it was at 126. He probably isn't going to KO guys with one shot anymore but he can definitely hurt you with one shot. That was seen in the 3rd Barrera fight and also when he KD'ed Chavez.

RwK
03-31-2005, 08:23 PM
. So my question to the audience is this, would you have chosen differently if Morales had lost to the Pac Man? Would you still favor him over MAB?


That is basically the ONLY thing that these people are looking at. If M.A.B. beat Pac in a rematch, there would definitely be no argument as to who is the better fighter.. :rolleyes:

Which I already dont think there is. M.A.B. beat Morales twice.
Some may argue that Junior Jones was just as good as these fighters, especially in his prime. If you are asessing Barrera's losses that is.

RwK
03-31-2005, 08:28 PM
Morales beat both boxers that koed Barrera.


Barrera has only been K.O.'d 1 time. Against Pacquiao. (technically speaking).

.::|ULTIMATE|::.
03-31-2005, 09:54 PM
Barrera has only been K.O.'d 1 time. Against Pacquiao. (technically speaking).

Against Junior Jones his corner stepped into the apron to save Barrera as he got sent to the canvas twice. In the WBO they mark it as DQ Loss for Barrera but basically its a TKO.

RwK
03-31-2005, 09:54 PM
Against Junior Jones his corner stepped into the apron to save Barrera as he got sent to the canvas twice. In the WBO they mark it as DQ Loss for Barrera but basically its a TKO.

Yeah I know. Technically speaking.

czars_salad
03-31-2005, 09:59 PM
barrera will win, again, this time with more angst and power!

Sir_Jose
03-31-2005, 10:22 PM
That is my point. It is like people saying Thomas Hearns was a better overall fighter than Hagler. Even though Hagler kicked his ass, and Hagler was the better overall fighter. It makes no sense. The same for Tyson and Holyfield. Some even have the nerve to say "Tyson" was better. That is absurd. He got re-arranged by Holy. Same situation here.


So going by this bulletproof theroy here.

Would you say Junior Jones is greater and had a better career than MAB? I mean after all he did beat him twice.

Chups
03-31-2005, 10:41 PM
Barrera will always be better than Morales.

Sinatra.Jr
03-31-2005, 11:14 PM
they are almost same strong,so in past tree time bout the points was close the same one.I can't decide who are more stronger.another one more
bout I hope.

RwK
03-31-2005, 11:59 PM
Would you say Junior Jones is greater and had a better career than MAB? I mean after all he did beat him twice.

No. All I pointed out, was comparing fighters based on wins or losses to each other is valid.

borikua
04-01-2005, 12:22 AM
The baby face assasin, but not by far...

michael_Q
04-01-2005, 12:23 AM
morales is the better boxer no doubt about it. and lossing to MAB does not make him the lesser fighter. he was fighting barrera because of hatred. so he was just focus to annihilate barrera, ruining his game plan. i think he has the more passion as the boxer. i can already see him as an all-time great.

chito
04-01-2005, 06:45 AM
morales is the better boxer no doubt about it. and lossing to MAB does not make him the lesser fighter. he was fighting barrera because of hatred. so he was just focus to annihilate barrera, ruining his game plan. i think he has the more passion as the boxer. i can already see him as an all-time great.

but it's part of the game of boxing, emotions are what's driving these fighters to give it all. for fame and glory, and for money! it's a hard debate on who's better that's why i voted for undecided!

morales is the better fighter especially if you compare all of their opponents. no question on morales' foes that they are tougher. compared with barrera's foes! but what is the real score behind them when they are facing each other. it's a draw and it is on square 1. leave all of their common enemies, this is about them only. barrera has really got morales' numbers, isn't it? and to the minds of many esp. those who support barrera, morales had to come and beat barrera to get all the respect he wants and prove to all of them he's the better fighter! and it would be a lot tougher, especially if it involves confidence and pride (beating an opponent twice means a lot in any sport, right?) so it would be tough for morales, but it could be done (and with a lot of focus as what he had shown during his fight with pacquiao!) he needs to cement his name, I am much better against you and not just better against the one who beats you!

Mick Hucknall
04-01-2005, 06:54 AM
well if they fought each other in both there next bouts ( Highly unlikely though ) who would you pick to win. And if Morales was t beat Barrera to even up the score would any of you people who voted for Barrera change your minds on your decision.

chito
04-01-2005, 07:55 AM
well if they fought each other in both there next bouts ( Highly unlikely though ) who would you pick to win. And if Morales was t beat Barrera to even up the score would any of you people who voted for Barrera change your minds on your decision.

im not so sure who to pick, i guess it should be morales. based on his performance against pac, it is a nice pick. i think he showed a lot of class when he fought pacquiao, a lot of focus, and a lot of technique. he's got it all and it's very hard to win against him. but fighting barrera isn't easy because it involves a lot psyching, a lot of pride, a lot of emotions in it because they don't like each other really! but if we based our answers on technique and boxing skills of the two, it's morales without a doubt! but i could be wrong.

Sulpiride
04-01-2005, 08:04 AM
Their resume is pretty comparable, I would give barrera the slight edge based ont their trilogy

NiGe2011
04-02-2005, 10:14 PM
I like Morales I guess... As everybody has said it is a really tough choice though. I think the first fight was pretty much a draw (as that knockdown was bull****), Morales had a slight edge in the second, and Barrera had a slight edge in the third. Morales has beaten Pacquiao who beat Barrera, and Barrera completely owned a similar-esque fighter in the Prince. I guess what it comes down to for me is that I think Morales has a slightly better chin, and a little more potential still. And I also find the fact that Morales has such a huge chip on his shoulder and absolutely HATES Barrera kind of endearing...

Kenny Blankenship
04-03-2005, 12:13 AM
I give the nod to Morales for a few different reasons:

Quality opponents: Morales has fought tougher guys, he doesn't seem to want easy fights.

Consistency: Morales always seems to bring his A game. He is consistent. You know going in that chances are he won't have an off night, can't say the same for Barrera.

Chin: Edge to Morales again. Barrera has been knocked on his ass and outright embarassed by guys Morales has beaten.

Head to head: Edge to Barrera 2-1. The first two fights could have gone either way, but the third fight Barrera clearly won.

Champions attitude: Morales. If Morales had his clock cleaned like Barrera did by Pac, he would have been chomping at the bit to get a rematch. It seems to me like Barrera wants no part of a rematch with Pac even though it would be a very nice paycheck for him, which tells me he's scared.
Morales has NEVER showed this kind of attitude. A true champ would want revenge for a defeat, Barrera's avoiding Pac even though the big money would be there for a rematch.

IMO, Morales is better. And if there were to be a fourth fight between the two of them I would lean towards Morales taking it.

MlLkMan
04-03-2005, 01:29 AM
MAB, because of their last fight.

Agave
04-03-2005, 03:51 AM
In my opinion Barrera beat Erik in all three fights!!!
Barrera has EM's number! If there's a 4th fight between this two again it will be under MAB's terms... I'll tell you right now that they will not use those Winnie the pooh gloves they wore last Nov. :boxing:

Tha Greatest
04-03-2005, 04:08 AM
I'm sure after the Marquez fight happened

I think Barrera will even have a easier time with Pacquiao then Morales did

Barrera beat Morales once and for all END OF STORY!

I don't like how he didnt go for the Pacquiao rematch right away

If i got knocked out, i would want a rematch right away!

USA4LIFE
04-03-2005, 05:28 AM
Morales is better at fighting on the outside, and barrera is better on the inside, but i have to go with morales as the better boxer even tho barrera can box himself. I love both these guys i root for both of them all the time.

The Golden Boy
04-03-2005, 08:07 AM
I give the nod to Morales for a few different reasons:

Quality opponents: Morales has fought tougher guys, he doesn't seem to want easy fights.


Barrera has always shunned the mandatories and gone for the best fighters out there. His up and coming fight against Fana is a rarity and a well deserved one at that.

beanstalk
04-03-2005, 09:12 AM
my vote's for MAB. But this is a pretty tough call.

If ever, I like MAB in a Pac rematch. That may cancel out the Pac equation and put MAB on top of both EM and Pac.

EvilMark
04-03-2005, 09:48 AM
Barrera is better 95%

amaru
04-03-2005, 10:03 AM
I give the nod to Morales for a few different reasons:

Quality opponents: Morales has fought tougher guys, he doesn't seem to want easy fights.

Consistency: Morales always seems to bring his A game. He is consistent. You know going in that chances are he won't have an off night, can't say the same for Barrera.

Chin: Edge to Morales again. Barrera has been knocked on his ass and outright embarassed by guys Morales has beaten.

Head to head: Edge to Barrera 2-1. The first two fights could have gone either way, but the third fight Barrera clearly won.

Champions attitude: Morales. If Morales had his clock cleaned like Barrera did by Pac, he would have been chomping at the bit to get a rematch. It seems to me like Barrera wants no part of a rematch with Pac even though it would be a very nice paycheck for him, which tells me he's scared.
Morales has NEVER showed this kind of attitude. A true champ would want revenge for a defeat, Barrera's avoiding Pac even though the big money would be there for a rematch.

IMO, Morales is better. And if there were to be a fourth fight between the two of them I would lean towards Morales taking it.

quality opponents: barrera has fought tough opponents too in kennedy mckinney, enrique sanchez, jesus salud, prince naseem hamed, morales

consistency: barrera has been very consistent in his career, the guys had over 60 fights and only lost 4 times. before barrera lost to pacman he was undefeated for over 4 years, thats very consistent. morales claimed his fight with barrera was an off night (i read that it had somethin to do with a girl he said, although i could be wrong), barrera had one off night against pacquaio yet you say you you aint sure what barrera is gonna turn up when he fights??

chin: i dont know who has the better chin but we can go with morales on this one based on the fact that hes never been KO'd unlike barrea.

head to head: like you pointed out, barrera has the advantage, he has won the series against morales 2-1 and has shown he is better than him based on their trilogy, not by much though. the fights were extremly close but barrera has shown over the 3 fights that he is the better boxer.

champions attitude: barrera has shown he has an attitude of a champion, when he got KO'd by junior jones he went straight back in the ring with him, its even debatable that he won the rematch but i wont go down that road. barrera has stated numerous times in interviews that he wants to fight manny pacquaio again and i belive he will. just because he hasnt fought him staight away, it does not mean he is scared of pacquaio. when morales lost the second fight against barrera i didnt hear him begging for a rematch yet everyone knows morales is a tough fighter and will not back down froma challenge. you got to remember too, morales was the man at 130lbs, barrera was comin off his worst beating of his career, yet he went up to morales' division when he is really a 126lb fighter, wore morales' gloves and still beat him, that says a lot about barreras attitude.

its your opinion so i cant knock it, you point out good points. IMO if they fought again barrera would beat morales, he just has his number. im sure you were saying the same thing that morales would beat barrera when they fought their third fight on november 27th so why would you think morales would win this time? what do you think would change if they fought a fourth time????

JOM'S
04-03-2005, 11:51 AM
after 64 votes its deadlock at 27 ea and 10 undecided...

at the moment, i really dont think that this question can be answered correctly, IMHO they still need to fight one more time ...

AIR_KENG
04-03-2005, 12:12 PM
champions attitude: barrera has shown he has an attitude of a champion, when he got KO'd by junior jones he went straight back in the ring with him

if this will be the basis for attitude, i'd say morales should be the better man... after falling to barrera, he faced pacman right after, so that makes me think he has more guts fighting somebody he has not fought yet... im not discredting barrera in any way but erik will take any challenge on his way... having said that, erik is the better man... nice analysis though...

zip
04-03-2005, 03:36 PM
Barrera just because he's much cooler ^__^

phallus
04-03-2005, 06:00 PM
they're both future all time greats, but i'd say morales is the better boxer of the two, barrera is a puncher, and a damn great puncher, and morales definitley has the better chin

michael_Q
04-04-2005, 03:23 AM
but it's part of the game of boxing, emotions are what's driving these fighters to give it all. for fame and glory, and for money! it's a hard debate on who's better that's why i voted for undecided!

passion is totally different from emotion... emotions r much more confusing for fighters especially when they are carried by it. passion is what that's firing u up. becoming emotional could be more of a decrement than an increment. those who fight with passion r those who gets a nice receiving end.

chito
04-04-2005, 06:58 AM
passion is totally different from emotion... emotions r much more confusing for fighters especially when they are carried by it. passion is what that's firing u up. becoming emotional could be more of a decrement than an increment. those who fight with passion r those who gets a nice receiving end.

i just looked it up in the thesaurus, it's the same. i don't know maybe it's in the usage.

The Troll
04-04-2005, 11:49 PM
Damn Barrera made a comeback since this thread started. I voted Barrera, Barrera beat Morales twice I have to base my opinion on that if your strictly talking Morales vs. Barrera.

morancito
04-05-2005, 02:31 AM
People tend to forget that MAB didn't take an easy fight for 5 whole years (2000 - 2004). This guy Fana is definately a rarity, a well-deserved rarity I might add.

This question is just too damn close to call. I would have voted for MAB a month ago, but in his last fight Morales showed that he too can fight (ala MAB vs Naz). I personally think MAB is 3-0 in the trilogy, but it just may be that he has Terrible's number.

So, my vote goes to Undecided

Yarmez
04-05-2005, 02:43 AM
I say Barrera and when he whoops Pac Man in a Rematch so will everyone else.

guru
04-05-2005, 09:59 AM
MAB just has morales number.... EM is the better fighter, but MAB is just all wrong for him...

czars_salad
04-05-2005, 10:05 AM
morales is tailor-made for barrera

amaru
04-05-2005, 04:56 PM
People tend to forget that MAB didn't take an easy fight for 5 whole years (2000 - 2004). This guy Fana is definately a rarity, a well-deserved rarity I might add.

This question is just too damn close to call. I would have voted for MAB a month ago, but in his last fight Morales showed that he too can fight (ala MAB vs Naz). I personally think MAB is 3-0 in the trilogy, but it just may be that he has Terrible's number.

So, my vote goes to Undecided

exactly, barrera was recognized as the peoples champion because he did not cater to belts and he hardly fought any mandotory challengers, he just would fight top fighters from about 2000 to 2003. barrera fighting fana is a rarity and he deserves a rest after his fight with morales.

both fighters have fought tough opposition but what seperates barrera from morales is that he has beaten him twice.

SnoopySmurf
04-05-2005, 05:49 PM
Barrera would probably beat Morales again if they had a 4th match. Styles make the fights.....kinda like

Rock/Paper/Scissors = Barrera/Pacquiao/Morales

oj21
04-05-2005, 10:11 PM
I voted Morrales only because I've been a fan from the beginning (down in TJ or Tijuana for those who don't know). I've been a MAB fan for a long time now too though, so it was hard to choose one and not the other. I believe what a lot of you guys also believe that MAB has Erik's number. But isn't it always like that? You have some great thing going or what ever and then there is this person/team which you just can't beat. As far as opposition goes, I believe they have both fought hard opponents. I think Erik's career has been put on the spotlight for a longer time now than MAB's and that is the reason why more people are leaning towards Erik. I would want to see a fourth fight to see how Erik would fight against MAB. I mean he did so great against Pac by boxing and moving, do you think he would put his hatred a side to get the better of MAB? I believe if he does he wins by UD if not by late round TKO. If that happens then we can start talking about the fifth fight.

czars_salad
04-05-2005, 11:07 PM
MAB just has morales number.... EM is the better fighter, but MAB is just all wrong for him...
again... EM is tailor-made for barrera

The Doctor is in
04-06-2005, 12:10 AM
Barrera! Barrera! Barrera!

MetalVomit
04-06-2005, 12:17 AM
MAB just has morales number.... EM is the better fighter, but MAB is just all wrong for him...


How does losing 2 out of 3 make EM better? What do you mean? Like technical skills, and not wins over each other? This is a very closely voted poll here. Wow. I think Barrera is better than Morales, but not by much. They are both living legends.

t_tsuguri
04-06-2005, 01:31 PM
I think Morales is the better Boxer. First off he beat both fighters that have KO victory's over Barrera. 2nd he has been champion in 3 different weight classes. 3rd all the fights with Barrera have been so close. If it was not for his hatred for Barrera dictating his style and he actually boxed him properly instead of looking for a KO he would have won. You literally only have to change the scores on 2 rounds over the course of their 3 fights and Morales is an undefeated fighter. Morales also has consistently fought the tougher opposition.

amaru
04-07-2005, 03:15 PM
I think Morales is the better Boxer. First off he beat both fighters that have KO victory's over Barrera. 2nd he has been champion in 3 different weight classes. 3rd all the fights with Barrera have been so close. If it was not for his hatred for Barrera dictating his style and he actually boxed him properly instead of looking for a KO he would have won. You literally only have to change the scores on 2 rounds over the course of their 3 fights and Morales is an undefeated fighter. Morales also has consistently fought the tougher opposition.

morales might have beaten opponents barrera has not beaten but barrera has beaten morales twice (some say even 3 times), and barrera also has been a champion in 3 different weight classes. of course morales has hatred for barrera but so does barrera too yet barrera is not blinded by his hatred towards morales, barrera is the smarter fighter and the level of competition he has fought has been tough too. barrera has most probably a bigger win then morales with his victory over prince naseem hamed. im not sayin that morales would lose to hamed, he most probably would have beat him but the fact is morales did not fight him, barrera did and won. morales does figth tough fights but barrera has fought tough fighters. both fighters were even when it came to boxing and the third fight just cemented barrera being the better boxer.