View Full Version : Joppy calls Trinidad a "cheat"
kborges 11-24-2004, 09:32 PM by Paul Upham: During a media conference call on Tuesday to promote his fight with Jermain "Bad Intentions" Taylor on December 4 on HBO's 'Boxing After Dark', three-time WBA middleweight champion William Joppy called Felix "Tito" Trinidad a "cheat".
After the Puerto Rican great (pictured) was forced to re-wrap his hands prior to his only loss to Bernard Hopkins at Madison Square Garden in September 2001, 34 year-old Joppy 34-3-1 (25) said that he doesn't count his 5th round knockout by Trinidad in May 2001 as a loss on his record.
"I don't even count that fight," he said. "He bought a bat to a fist fight. He cheated. I don't care what you say, to all you writers, Felix Trinidad should not be in the Hall of Fame, even though he'll make it to the Hall of Fame. There should always be a question mark behind his name. He's a cheat. When he fought Bernard Hopkins, Bernard Hopkins exposed him."
In the dressing room before the Hopkins-Trinidad fight, one of Hopkin's cornermen who was witnessing the wrapping of Trinidad's hands complained to officials and Trinidad's father was made to un-wrap his son's hands and re-wrap them again.
"Trinidad's dad wouldn't let him come out to the ring unless he could wrap his hands the way he wanted them to be wrapped and that was illegal," said Joppy.
The Fix 11-24-2004, 09:39 PM anybody think joppy looked like e.t when he lost to b-hop
julDilla 11-24-2004, 09:41 PM anybody think joppy looked like e.t when he lost to b-hop
LMFAO HAHAHAHA now that i think about it :cool:
trinidadpr87 11-24-2004, 09:41 PM i wish he took his gloves off so i could see if his finger was glowing.
kborges 11-24-2004, 09:44 PM Joppy needs to stop thinking about how Tito ko'd his ass and start worrying about Taylor.
jack_the_rippuh 11-24-2004, 10:59 PM I heard from someone on this site that Hopkins' trainer later said that it was all bull..
Zab Super Judah 11-25-2004, 12:01 AM AHHA it seems to be that joppy is suffering from the effects of trinidad knocking him the F out
Kimmy 11-25-2004, 01:11 AM There is a allot of truth in that hand wrapping incident before the Hopkins fight. Appartently Tito`s father went crazy and was refusing to let Tito fight the fight if he had to be observed wrapping the hands. He had to go through with it though and Trinidad punches had no effect on Hopkins, who was supposed to be KO`d by Tito wasn`t he?
I hope Bernard Hopkins gets Tito again and beats him up, just like when Hopkins beat Tito and chnted USA USA USA! The PR is going down!! For America!
Deejay 11-25-2004, 01:28 AM I personally don't think that you can attribute all of Tito's power just to the way he wraps his hands. He simply throws punches with excellent technique and because his arms are long, he gets a ****load of leverage. If you watch the tito fight, when he did land his shots he did hurt Hopkins, it's just that Hopkins fought the perfect fight and didn't let Tito hit him hardly at all. As well as this, Hopkins was simply physically bigger than Tito, so his shots didn't have the effect they normally have. To say that he doesn't have power is bull****.
Joppy just has sour grapes...I hope Taylor murders him.
abdiel2k3 11-25-2004, 01:32 AM i also agree with joppy
it isnt any coinsdence that in a fight where he was made to wrap his hands correct
his power wasnt as dominant
same thing happened with naz against mab
he was made 2 wrapem right
and he was able to hurt mab
discracful by both
not 2 say neither had power
it was just increase by illegal hand wrapping
I guess all of Joppy's opponents have illegally wrapped their hands.
Zab Super Judah 11-25-2004, 02:01 AM eastman too lol
t_tsuguri 11-25-2004, 02:45 AM How does one illegally wrap their hands?
Isnt it illegally wrapped when the tape goes over the knuckles. I dont know im just trying to remember.
blackbelt2003 11-26-2004, 02:47 PM Jeez, losers will come up with any old crap to satisfy their ego's won't they.
Wonder what it'll be if Jermain Taylor spanks him?
Black
I dont know why joppy is crying. Except for the third round joppy fought with his hands at his waist. I think anyone could have knocked out joppy the way he fought.
Exciterx24 11-26-2004, 02:50 PM I am rooting for Joppy on December 4 but he is talking crap about my favorite fighter and that just shows that the guy is a true sore loser. He should just let go or otherwise see a psychiatrist to stop the nightmares about Trinidad being a racket and Joppy a tennis ball.
blackbelt2003 11-26-2004, 02:52 PM Why are you rooting for Joppy?
Just wondering, don't you think Taylor will be a good addition to the middleweight world rankings?
Black
Exciterx24 11-26-2004, 02:55 PM Taylor is waaaayyy overrated and I hate when the media hypes a boxer who has not done anything at all.
jujitsujn 11-26-2004, 03:03 PM Joppy is just pissed because he keeps losing.
blackbelt2003 11-26-2004, 03:11 PM Fair comments, man!
Would you change your opinion if he beat Joppy...Joppy is a decent enough test, after all, being only one fight removed from an undisputed title challenge?
Black
xoalvinox 11-26-2004, 05:01 PM Joppy has no chance.
I think Wright or even Mosley would soundly beat him.
He is only taking this fight for the $$$.
Exciterx24 11-26-2004, 05:18 PM If Joppy shows up in good shape and Taylor beats him I might start believing.
aaalex 11-26-2004, 05:23 PM After Joppy has lost Hopkins, I was disappointed in him...
aaalex 11-26-2004, 05:25 PM Joppy has no chance.
I think Wright or even Mosley would soundly beat him.
He is only taking this fight for the $$$.
It completely agree!
Joppy has no chances!!!
xoalvinox 11-26-2004, 05:28 PM Eastman outboxed and even knocked down Joppy. Talk about a gift decision...that was one.
jopy talks **** cause he wants one last bigpayday .
aaalex 11-26-2004, 05:59 PM Really, Joppy most likely only wants to earn money...
Exciterx24 11-26-2004, 06:06 PM jopy talks **** cause he wants one last bigpayday .
Hey, what's that MKM thing?
bigdlb12 11-26-2004, 06:13 PM I think they wey the raps and they form a tape of hard cast around the hands
Duncan 11-28-2004, 02:32 PM It is asinine to think that Trinidad could generate that sort of vicious power simply by wrapping his hands another way. No two trainers wrap hands the same way.
Additionally, as noted by another on this thread, Hopkins' trainer did later mention that it was all a bunch of crap to get into Trinidad's head. In the end, Trinidad couldn't knock out Hopkins because Trinidad could not hit Hopkins, period.
However, Joppy, who blocks most of an opponent's punches with his face, presented no such difficulty. He got his ass thoroughly kicked that it has never been kicked. Trinidad owned him and made him his little geisha girl. Why? Because Trinidad hit him very, very hard in the face. It goes no deeper than that.
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