View Full Version : Jake LaMotta


TheGreatA
11-05-2009, 02:37 PM
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I tried to fit in all the available footage and it went on a bit long, over 20 minutes. LaMotta was rarely in a boring fight.

Joey Giardello
11-05-2009, 03:12 PM
I rank la motta as was one of the greatest one thing i dont under stand is when people say he avoided charley burley, la motta beat holman williams and land faced loyd marshal who were just as good and just as avoided as burley. Also i think la motta and burley is any one's fight.

sonnyboyx2
11-05-2009, 04:05 PM
LaMotta was a very good fighter, whats often overlooked is that he was a huge underdog to beat Marcel Cerdan, LaMotta wrestled Cerdan to the canvas in the opening round and Cerdan injured his shoulder which ment LaMotta won the title from a guy with only one arm, Cerdan retired at the end of round 10 due to the shoulder injury, he died in a plane crash on his way to the USA for their return fight... i have watched quite alot of Marcel Cerdan fight footage and IMO Cerdan would have beaten LaMotta, he was an incredible fighting machine

Obama
11-05-2009, 07:16 PM
LaMotta was a very good fighter, whats often overlooked is that he was a huge underdog to beat Marcel Cerdan, LaMotta wrestled Cerdan to the canvas in the opening round and Cerdan injured his shoulder which ment LaMotta won the title from a guy with only one arm, Cerdan retired at the end of round 10 due to the shoulder injury, he died in a plane crash on his way to the USA for their return fight... i have watched quite alot of Marcel Cerdan fight footage and IMO Cerdan would have beaten LaMotta, he was an incredible fighting machine

Vouch.

Great video though TheGreatA. I watched the whole thing. I liked the ending the best. Best music, and it fit well with the massacre.

TheGreatA
11-05-2009, 07:40 PM
I have watched Cerdan as well but I guess I'm not as impressed as you two. LaMotta was pretty much murdering Cerdan even before the injury and from then on it was painfully one-sided.

Obama
11-05-2009, 07:47 PM
I have watched Cerdan as well but I guess I'm not as impressed as you two. LaMotta was pretty much murdering Cerdan even before the injury and from then on it was painfully one-sided.

The fight hadn't gone on very long... Do you think Timothy Bradley was "murdering" Nate Campbell before the stoppage?

TheGreatA
11-05-2009, 07:59 PM
The fight hadn't gone on very long... Do you think Timothy Bradley was "murdering" Nate Campbell before the stoppage?

After the cut, yes. But LaMotta was all over Cerdan even before Cerdan injured his arm.

Lets not forget that Cerdan wasn't exactly young at that point and LaMotta was in the best shape he probably ever was, since the early/mid 1940's atleast.

Sergio Martinez
11-05-2009, 08:07 PM
After the cut, yes. But LaMotta was all over Cerdan even before Cerdan injured his arm.

Lets not forget that Cerdan wasn't exactly young at that point and LaMotta was in the best shape he probably ever was, since the early/mid 1940's atleast.

Cerdan injured his shoulder in the first round, when Lamotta threw him to the ground. Lamotta did give Cerdan a beating, but Cerdan was a one armed fighter.

Before the Cerdans shoulder went, the fight hand't even gone past a round. Lamotta wasn't murdering him with two arms.......

TheGreatA
11-05-2009, 08:18 PM
Cerdan injured his shoulder in the first round, when Lamotta threw him to the ground. Lamotta did give Cerdan a beating, but Cerdan was a one armed fighter.

Before the Cerdans shoulder went, the fight hand't even gone past a round. Lamotta wasn't murdering him with two arms.......

LaMotta beat him up in the first round and then threw him down. The strength difference seemed to be too much, LaMotta was walking through him.

Cerdan also wasn't exactly a one-armed fighter, he did use the left although perhaps not to its full extent.

Obama
11-05-2009, 08:21 PM
I simply don't see how you can guage how the entire fight was going to go from the first minute. I've seen greats get beat up by bums in the first minute of a fight. Anyways, did you get my PM?

Sergio Martinez
11-05-2009, 08:24 PM
LaMotta beat him up in the first round and then threw him down. The strength difference seemed to be too much, LaMotta was walking through him.

Cerdan also wasn't exactly a one-armed fighter, he did use the left although perhaps not to its full extent.

First off, due to Lamotta getting the better of the first half of the round, dosent mean he was murdering Cerdan. And if you didn't know, throwing/wrestling a fighter to the ground is a illegal tactic, but yet you seem to give Lamotta credit for doing it.

I think there is some nuthugging going on here......

Cerdan barley used his left arm, and when he did there was nothing behind his punchers, he was a one armed fighter for virtually the entire fight.

It would of been a much more interesting fight if Cerdan had two arms instead of one.

Who knows what would of happened....

DudeManGuy216
01-06-2010, 05:51 PM
lamotta was teariing into cerdan tho n if u watch it he had him hurt thats y cerdan tried going into the clinch while jake punched/wrestled him to the floor. Jake beat plenty good fighters b4 dat. Tommy Bell, Holmann Williams, Fritzie Zivic, Bob Satterfield, n of course SRR, among plenty others. Ive found out they got footage of the bell fight, bout to get dat ****!:drillserg

GJC
01-06-2010, 06:33 PM
Lets not forget that Cerdan wasn't exactly young at that point and LaMotta was in the best shape he probably ever was, since the early/mid 1940's atleast.

To be fair Cerdan looked pretty good taking the title off Zale not long before the La Motta fight.
Zale has never been a favourite of mine but he was a tough guy and Cerdan beat the granny out of him.