I have gotten in arguments about who are the top 10 havyweights of all time with many of my friends. Some include Mike Tyson, some dont, it depends on the person i guess. So to everyone hear who are your top 10 heavyweights of all time? My list is a lot of throw back fighters.

1.Muhammed Ali
2.Rocky Marciano
(NO ORDER)
3.Joe Louis
4.Jack Dempsey
5.Jack Johnson
6.Ken Norton
7.Sonny Liston
8.Joe Frazier
9.Joe Walcott
10.George Foreman

Not 100% on it but its a start. I give Tyson props but never was a big fan and consider him 3rd best of his generation (Holyfield *prime*, and Lewis)

I have gotten in arguments about who are the top 10 havyweights of all time with many of my friends. Some include Mike Tyson, some dont, it depends on the person i guess. So to everyone hear who are your top 10 heavyweights of all time? My list is a lot of throw back fighters.

1.Muhammed Ali
2.Rocky Marciano
(NO ORDER)
3.Joe Louis
4.Jack Dempsey
5.Jack Johnson
6.Ken Norton
7.Sonny Liston
8.Joe Frazier
9.Joe Walcott
10.George Foreman

Not 100% on it but its a start. I give Tyson props but never was a big fan and consider him 3rd best of his generation (Holyfield *prime*, and Lewis)



I'll give my top 5.


1.Joe Louis
2.Ali
3.Rocky Maricano
4.jack Johnson


Well there is my top 4 the rest i could argue.

This changes on an almost weekly basis. I indicate whether my stance on their rating is derived more from accomplishments or all around fighting ability and how well they would stack up to the others.

1. Joe Louis (both)

2. Muhammad Ali (both)

3. Jack Dempsey (ability)

4. Rocky Marciano (both)

5. George Foreman (both)

6. Larry Holmes (both)

7. Sonny Liston (ability)

8. Jack Johnson (accomplishments)

9. John L. Sullivan (accomplishments) {You may question this but first remember that if it weren't for Sullivan there would be no big gate fights or PPV matches. Boxing very well may have remained a backwater, illegal sport.}

10.Jim Jeffries (ability)

This is really hard and off the top of my head, I would say:

1. Ali
2. Louis
3. Foreman
4. Dempsey
5. Liston
6. Holmes
7. Jack Johnson
8. Max Schmelling
9. Lennox Lewis
10. Evander Holyfield

would be my pics. I expect to see some angry criticism I suppose. Rocky Marciano was overrated to the max IMO. That is why I do not think he belongs on the list. I think Evander is a top 10 heavyweight of all time as well. Lennox Lewis also.



Its a good top 10 i guess. I am not going to say blahblah and flame you. But Rocky maricano being overrated. Well is it what you hear or what you really know. Alot of fans hear by word of mouth. Have you ever seen the rock fight more then one time?

His wins over his 2 biggest opponents in a washed up Joe Louis and Jersey Joe Walcott are hardly impressive. He lacks the credentials against serious opponents and never overcame adversity as far as losing a fight is concerned.


I guess it you heard about him by word of mouth.

1. Joe Louis
2. Muhammad Ali
3. Larry Holmes
4. Rocky Marciano
5. George Foreman
6. Jack Johnson
7. Lennox Lewis
8. Max Schmeling
9. Joe Frazier
10. Jack Dempsey

That must be the fourth time I list my Top 10 here on Boxingscene and everytime it changes a little. It's really hard to compare these great fighters. If I'd be asked again tomorrow places 4-10 might change.

Why dont you make an attmept at posting a list if you know boxing so well? :confused:


Was he put in a bad era yes,That is not his fault what you want a list ok no problem. Alot of people over look this Rocky Maricano was a small heavy weight, this was a big factor in the rocks career. You also say a tired joe louis, This may also be the case but he wasnt washed up or shot but he was out of his prime. You cant forget that joe louis was favoured over the rock.

Ok lets goto walcott was the damn champion of the world, he also fought and beat Ezzard twice before fighting Rocky. When you are champ you are at you're best. yes i understand it was 23 years after walcott started his carrer! Rock took the shot and came out the champion. Archie moore was he out of his prime/washed up or shot? Probably not if you look at his performances after geting knocked out in the 9th round. But i am not a huge fan of the rock but you must put him in the top 10. I would write some more but i have to go again. I am not trying to hate on you man.

1.joe louis
2.Ezzard 1&2
3.Walcott 1&2
4.Archie Moore.

I can't beleive so many have rocky over foreman, rocky would not last 3 rounds with foreman in the 70's or 90's

Ali
Louis
Holmes
Marciano
Foreman
Johnson
Lewis
Dempsey
Holyfield
Frazier

I doubt he would last 1 or 2 IMO. His plodding style would not cut it against Big George back then.


Really people favor that. I would have to say the raw power foreman had would probably destroy rock. He would be much much smaller so there is no chance of rope doping. Even ali took a punishment siting against the ropes. depending how fast foreman came out.Foreman was def one powerfull MOFO.

i totally agree. Rocky was good but IMO no means great. there are so many fighters i know he couldn't last with. Ali,holmes,frazier,L.lewis,J. louis,Holyfield,tyson,liston, jack johnson, and many more. He was tough and came at a good time, but not in my top ten

You are strange, and where are 5-10. WTF?

You strange poster you. :eek:



That list at the bottom was not my top 10 it wasnt supose to my rankings. I started the post typing a list of fighters he has fought and beaten. I didnt mean to keep it up there i must of pushed down and didnt see it to delete who cares. Still my point is he is a top 10 heavy weight. he should be there on any real top 10 list.

i totally agree. Rocky was good but IMO no means great. there are so many fighters i know he couldn't last with. Ali,holmes,frazier,L.lewis,J. louis,Holyfield,tyson,liston, jack johnson, and many more. He was tough and came at a good time, but not in my top ten


In today rules probably not. Ali yea on points sure. Holmes i am not so sure about that. Holyfield i highly doubt that in what rules todays or then? Holyfield couldnt go 15 rounds with rocky coming at him punching and punching. Neither could liston. In todays rules i can name a few fighters who could out score and probably stop him do to cuts and what not.

1.Marciano best stamina and heart ever, undeafeted.
2.Louis longest tittle reign.
3.Ali fought and beat great competiton.
4.Foreman worst bear to ever enter a ring.
5.Frazier amazing will, staying power and left hook.
6.Holmes.
7.Liston.
8.Holyfield.
9.Tyson.
10.Lewis.

my 5

Lennox Lewis
Mike Tyson
Evander HolyField
Ali
Joe Frazier

dont know alot about other fighters.

i totally agree. Rocky was good but IMO no means great. there are so many fighters i know he couldn't last with. Ali,holmes,frazier,L.lewis,J. louis,Holyfield,tyson,liston, jack johnson, and many more. He was tough and came at a good time, but not in my top ten

The guy was only 185lbs .... of course he wouldn't last against Lewis. If they had him fighting now, in his weight class, and not against today's heavy weights, he would still be a great boxer. Some of these boxers today would have forty-plus pound weight advantages on him. He fought quite a few guys that had fifteen pounds on him, and he beat them all. I think he's definitely a great fighter, and easily deserving to be in the top ten, and even the top five.

The guy was only 185lbs .... of course he wouldn't last against Lewis. If they had him fighting now, in his weight class, and not against today's heavy weights, he would still be a great boxer. Some of these boxers today would have forty-plus pound weight advantages on him. He fought quite a few guys that had fifteen pounds on him, and he beat them all. I think he's definitely a great fighter, and easily deserving to be in the top ten, and even the top five.

yes many forget that if marciano had been fighting now he would have either been about 210 (modern nutrition and/ore steroids) ore he would hve been a lightheavy.
either way he would hve been great.

Damn, I forgot Frazier. I did this last night before I went to sleep. Okay Joe at 6 and bump the rest down.

Top 3 (and it's really not up for debate)

Ali
Louis
Johnson

I'll come up with 7-10 later.

yes many forget that if marciano had been fighting now he would have either been about 210 (modern nutrition and/ore steroids) ore he would hve been a lightheavy.
either way he would hve been great.


Cruiserweight. If you havnt seen rocky fight he takes alot of punishment as he did in Jersy joe(1) But the thing that amazed me even going down and getting beat round after round. The man wouldnt stop he just punched and punched then in the 13th round BOOM. The rematch was even better. Archie hit rocky with a awsome combo but the rock just came and came and knocked down archie 5 times before the night was over in the 9th. in todays boxing if a fighter took any half the punishment rock had taken it would be over i'll say that. **** if a fighter lands a flush punch stumbling a fighter the ref will call it.

1. Foreman
2. Ali
3. Tyson

To me this is my list of great heavyweights. Ofcourse it is open for discussion, nut this is how I feel about it.

1. Foreman
2. Ali
3. Tyson

To me this is my list of great heavyweights. Ofcourse it is open for discussion, nut this is how I feel about it.

How do you have Foreman ahead of Ali?

That **** makes no sense. :confused:

Well, not because Foreman is a better boxer than Ali, but because of the way Foreman succesfully made his comeback and became the HW Champion again. To me Foreman is the reason why I am boxing right now. Ofcourse Ali is also great, and sure he is a better boxer than Foreman, but look who got the best of it now.

Cruiserweight. If you havnt seen rocky fight he takes alot of punishment as he did in Jersy joe(1) But the thing that amazed me even going down and getting beat round after round. The man wouldnt stop he just punched and punched then in the 13th round BOOM. The rematch was even better. Archie hit rocky with a awsome combo but the rock just came and came and knocked down archie 5 times before the night was over in the 9th. in todays boxing if a fighter took any half the punishment rock had taken it would be over i'll say that. **** if a fighter lands a flush punch stumbling a fighter the ref will call it.

No lightheavy actually.
he used to be at 185 only needs to dehydrate 10 too be at lightheavy.

Sounds like a lot but most lightheavy normaly weighs about 200 pounds.

No lightheavy actually.
he used to be at 185 only needs to dehydrate 10 too be at lightheavy.

Sounds like a lot but most lightheavy normaly weighs about 200 pounds.

considering the way they trained in the 40s 50s, I doubt marciano could take off another 10 pounds and still be able to fight the night after

considering the way they trained in the 40s 50s, I doubt marciano could take off another 10 pounds and still be able to fight the night after
if roy could take over 20 than the rock could take 10, thats not alot in water, ive done it myself.

1. Ali
2. Louis
3. Holmes
4. Lewis
5. Holyfield
6. Foreman
7. Frazier
8. Tyson
9. Charles
10. Patterson

Roy Jones was the best heavyweight ever and proved it by fghting the best heavyweight ever before him. Like Roy says:

"Don't hate me cuz you ain't me!"

Roy would have pulled game**** moves over Ali's tired ass and the ref would have had to save him. Luckily for Ruiz he had a hard head or the same would have happened to him.

Here is my top ten:

1. Liston
2. Ali
3. Louis
4. Johnson
5. Dempsey
6. Foreman
7. Fraizer
8. Marciano
9. (tie) Lewis
9. (tie) Tyson

and I will go ahead and admit it now- I may be a little biased with my choice with Liston at number one, but I really think Sonny may be the baddest man to ever walk the face of the earth. And if he hand't hit the deck in the rematch in Lewiston, then who knows how history would remember him?

Haha, yeah that Liston selection is pretty sketchy I guess. Basically my list is more of a popularity contest for me then it is an assessment of skill. But my justifaction for Tyson and not Holyfield is the fact that as good as Holy was, Tyson defined an era of heavyweight boxing (although it was reletively short and a transitional one)- top that off with the historical importance of the fact that he was the youngest heavyweight champion and I had to put him on the list. And in my eyes I could not justify putting him any higher then he was placed (despite all of what I just wrote above, haha). And as much as I felt like putting the Real Deal in at that last spot, Lewis beat him twice (although technically the first was a draw) and was pretty much the sole brights spot in the division afterwards... And like I said, it is partially a list of my favorite heavyweights anyway.