who would win in their primes?

who would win in their primes?

Considering that a past prime, out of shape Lewis already beat a prime Klitschko by TKO, I would say it would end up as either another TKO or a wide UD with Lewis taking a smarter, more cautious boxing approach.

Either way, I think Lewis wins this nearly every time.

Edit: Of course this is just my opinion and I am not a white-hating racist, trying to propagate black power so please don't reply with such.

Done to death. LL wins. I think only by UD tho.

Well, prime VK was in a close, tough fight with an old, heavy and past prime Lewis. That close fight ended with a TKO win in favour of Lewis, due to a bad cut caused by a punch.

Use your head. Prime for prime it's the same Vitali, versus a younger, fresher, lighter, quicker version of Lennox.

I think lewis wins, having rewatched the fight they had I notice how bad lewis looks, the commentators say he looks rusty and his usual sharp punches look very off. However he still manages to cause Vitali big problems. If Lewis is prime you can almost double the amount of Jabs lewis would land, and also he would fight for all 3 minutes of every round and have better movement.

I would bet on Lewis, but my friend Vitali can also win, 60/40 Lewis, Vitali is an awesome fighter too though.

A past it Lewis already stopped Vitali: A prime Lennox slices, dices, and beats up Vitali to the extent that he has to be rescued by the ref whether he's bleeding or not. Lewis TKO.

Poet

I think lewis wins, having rewatched the fight they had I notice how bad lewis looks, the commentators say he looks rusty and his usual sharp punches look very off. However he still manages to cause Vitali big problems. If Lewis is prime you can almost double the amount of Jabs lewis would land, and also he would fight for all 3 minutes of every round and have better movement.

I would bet on Lewis, but my friend Vitali can also win, 60/40 Lewis, Vitali is an awesome fighter too though.

Even without the cut I believe Lewis would have eventually stopped Vitali anyway. Lennox gave away the first three or four rounds but had turned the fight after that and looked to be taking over.

Poet

I think if the worst version of a fighter has already beaten the other guy then logic tells you the best version of him is going to win too, surely?

Gotta be Lewis. Although I'm sure many a cunt in NSB will disagree.

Am now awaiting Sonnyboyx's repetive diatribe about how Lewis sucked and he was at ringside ad nauseum ;)

Poet

i think when they fought they were pretty much both in the primes,but if they would of fought at a younger age i still think lewis wins by tko again:boxing:

case is that no-one has managed to beat Vitali yet.. Lewis was very fortunate that the fight ended on a cut otherwise IMO Lewis was going-too-sleep within the next 2rds... i would call the Vitali who fought Lewis as a prime Vitali and the Lewis who fought Mavrovic, Briggs & Tua as a prime Lewis.. This would have been a close competitive fight with Lewis edging the decision

You must of watched a different fight then me. Lewis was tired but getting into his stride. Looked better from round 3 onwards. Lewis was well out of condition, but still rattled Vitali with some great shots.

What makes me laugh is the number of comments i have read saying tha lewis was luck to cut him. Shows the power of the punches to force a cut like that. At the end of the match who looking in worse condition? Vitali! But he gets all the praise.

Even without the cut I believe Lewis would have eventually stopped Vitali anyway. Lennox gave away the first three or four rounds but had turned the fight after that and looked to be taking over.

Poet

People forget that Lewis was a thinking man's fighter, who discovered an opponents flaws in the early rounds and exploited them later in the fight, People point to the fact that lewis "looked Tired" in that fight, but every time Vitali himself fights people comment on his mouth breathing and how he is going to soon gas, yet it never happens.

You must of watched a different fight then me. Lewis was tired but getting into his stride. Looked better from round 3 onwards. Lewis was well out of condition, but still rattled Vitali with some great shots.

What makes me laugh is the number of comments i have read saying tha lewis was luck to cut him. Shows the power of the punches to force a cut like that. At the end of the match who looking in worse condition? Vitali! But he gets all the praise.

Lewis was doing MUCH worse early in the Bruno fight, he figured Bruno out and took him apart later in the fight, my point is Lewis would have improved as the fight went on.

It was a good performance from Vitali and he was brave, but those cuts were mental and it was a gopod stoppage.

Should there have been a rematch? maybe but why should lewis tarnish his legacy and risk defeat just to give vitali a second chance when he knows he is past prime?

case is that no-one has managed to beat Vitali yet.. Lewis was very fortunate that the fight ended on a cut otherwise IMO Lewis was going-too-sleep within the next 2rds... i would call the Vitali who fought Lewis as a prime Vitali and the Lewis who fought Mavrovic, Briggs & Tua as a prime Lewis.. This would have been a close competitive fight with Lewis edging the decision

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You mean apart from Lewis?

Because I'm pretty sure that you'll find a TKO win for Lewis vs Vit Klit.

I'm positive they fought once before and Lewis beat him by TKO. :dunno:

Anyone else remember them fighting once before with Lewis winning or am I just making that up?

All I know is I have seen Lewis start slow and drop early rounds and come back from it many, many times, however I have NEVER seen anyone do this to Klitschko

http://www.ananova.com/images/web/59560.jpg

http://sports.espn.go.com/photo/2008/1008/box_lewis_klitschko_300.jpg

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39192000/jpg/_39192508_ap_lewis_300.jpg

All I know is I have seen Lewis start slow and drop early rounds and come back from it many, many times, however I have NEVER seen anyone do this to Klitschko

http://www.ananova.com/images/web/59560.jpg

http://sports.espn.go.com/photo/2008/1008/box_lewis_klitschko_300.jpg

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39192000/jpg/_39192508_ap_lewis_300.jpg

Bottom line.....old man Lewis beat Vitaly. It was a tough fight, yes. But any logical person has to assume a younger focused Lennox wins this fight. I would pick LL by tough but unanimous decision. He beat better comp at his best than V has, and still got the win over V at the end of his career. I was never a Lweis fan during his reign, but lets give credit where credit is due.

All I know is I have seen Lewis start slow and drop early rounds and come back from it many, many times, however I have NEVER seen anyone do this to Klitschko

I rewatched the fight last night and scored it the same: Rounds 1-4 to Klitschko and rounds 5-6 to Lewis with Lennox turning the fight in the 4th. Rounds 1 and 3 were close and COULD have conceivably been scored for Lewis though I think Vitali outworked Lennox in both rounds. It seems to me that all people hyping Klitschko's performance are basing it off a SINGLE round: Round 2 where he staggered Lewis with a right. One round is hardly the basis for robbery claims especially in a fight that ended in a TKO on cuts: A legitimate type of stoppage that has never been questioned in general as legitimate in all my understanding of boxing's history. Cut stoppages as rule are only disputed only in the specific by people who's favorite happend to be on the receiving end. Had it been anyone else but their favorite in question they'd have been asking why it wasn't stopped sooner. As far as I'm concerned all the controversy over this fight is a proverbial "tempest in a teapot". Vitali had TWO nasty gashes over and under his left eye and I've certainly seen title fights stopped for lesser wounds.

I would also suggest watching the fight and ignoring all commentary by George Foreman who was cheerleading Klitschko hand playing him up throughout: A tact he took, I believe, because of his distain for Lewis showing up in less than good shape and then compounding it by not being warmed up prior to the fight.

Poet

Well they fought in 2003 when Lewis was starting to go grey, and it's now 2009 and Vitaly is world champion.. This kinda suggests that Vitali's prime was taken up with a back injury, or would it have been around the time he beat Herbie Hyde?
I'd say his prime was rudely interrupted..

During there 2003 contest Klitschko unloaded on Lewis, and although staggered a few times, he took the lot, and in turn unloaded on Vitaly to the point where one of his eyes exploded, so I think it's fair to say that a prime Lewis would KO him..

I think Lewis wouldnt engage in a brawl in his prime, he would fight his own game. Taking no chances.

I would say Lewis takes him on points (something like 8 rounds to 4) in a competetive fight.