Why IS the Cruiserweight division the most overlooked division, traditionally? Even strawweights laugh at 'em, yet this is the division just below heavyweight. These guys knock seven shades out of each other and should, surely, get more appeal. Here's my take:

1. The name. For a start, "Cruiser" sounds far too lax for a weight category. It's like calling a division the "pacyweights" or the "takeyourtimeweights" or the "can'tbearsedweights".

Think about it - if you asked a person who knew NOTHING about boxing which was the next heaviest weight below Heavy - Cruiser or Light-Heavy - what would they say?

2. The contenders. Who are the cruisers? God knows. Actually, this is ONE division in which I can praise Limeys. One of the top-ranked is... um... no, the name's gone. But David Haye is an entertaining prospect and I love Carl "The Cat" Thompson to pieces.


What say the rest of you?

Traditionally the Crusierweight division was for fat lightheavies like Qawi to compete in and not have to maintain weight. It also served as a safe haven for heavyweights who just weren`t big enough to compete with the big guys ( Arthur Williams, Johnny Nelson etc.. )
If a big name with talent came along ( the likes of Holyfield, to some extent Micheal Moorer ) then they would be tempted by the money and move to the heavyweight division.
It could be argued that the crusierweight division CAN NEVER be a popular one because of it being so close to the heavywights. As soon as a dominant crusier comes along ( Holyfield, Gomez ) they move to heavyweight. The winner of this weekends crusier clash will probably be a heavyweight next year, you watch!

I've been saying that for awhile, the cruiserweights have something to offer. Here are some examples of why:

1. Wayne Braithwaite, a big punching slugging southpaw with good hand speed.
2. Jean Marc Mormeck, very tough, big puncher.
3. Kelvin Davis, supplants Cliff Couser as the best Mike Tyson impersonator.

Reasons why the cruiserweight division is bad:

1. No one wants to be there. Roy Jones passed the division like it was a bad part of town you don't even want to stop in for gas.
2. They are smaller than heavyweights, and slower than light heavyweights.
3. James Toney left it.
4. Vasiliy Jirov left it.
5. Carl Thompson is 80 years old.

Cruiserweights should be ignored. Most boxers in that category either should be able to make it down to light heavyweight, or just move up.
Its a division where out of shape fighters can hide.

I've been saying that for awhile, the cruiserweights have something to offer. Here are some examples of why:

1. Wayne Braithwaite, a big punching slugging southpaw with good hand speed.
2. Jean Marc Mormeck, very tough, big puncher.
3. Kelvin Davis, supplants Cliff Couser as the best Mike Tyson impersonator.

Reasons why the cruiserweight division is bad:

1. No one wants to be there. Roy Jones passed the division like it was a bad part of town you don't even want to stop in for gas.
2. They are smaller than heavyweights, and slower than light heavyweights.
3. James Toney left it.
4. Vasiliy Jirov left it.
5. Carl Thompson is 80 years old.


Vassilly is going back to it I think

1 fighter in the cruiserweight division as far as I am concerned.

The absolute best cruiser:

Oneil "give em hell" Bell. That guy is an assasin. He punches just as hard P4P as anyone in boxing IMO. This guy is a wrecking ball. Look out for him. Take my word for it.

Vassilly is going back to it I think
It has become more than apparent that Jirov can not compete with the heavyweights.

it had some good champions a couple of years back with toney jirov and juan carlos gomez, but gomez never fought either of those two

I thought Cruseirweight was gonna explode and be the hottest division in boxing a few years ago. The division is much better than people like to give it credit for.

The 3 belt holders are all exciting big punchers.

Braiwthatw
Mormeck
Davis

then you have

O'Neal Bell who always gives you a good fight.
Dale Brown is always tough.

Just imagine if Toney, Gomez and Jirov had stayed.

it had some good champions a couple of years back with toney jirov and juan carlos gomez, but gomez never fought either of those two

This is actually a suprise. if i am not mistaken i think Jirov and Gomez shared promotional company. And Toney was workable, as he wasn`t with Don King. i think no body wanted to risk anything in a division where if your not champ your not there......

O'Neal Bell who always gives you a good fight.
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Best Cruiser IMO. Hands down. Extremely underrated and hard nosed. He is a threat to knock out the likes of Toney and Jirov.
Braithwaite would literally die in the ring against him.

This is actually a suprise. if i am not mistaken i think Jirov and Gomez shared promotional company. And Toney was workable, as he wasn`t with Don King. i think no body wanted to risk anything in a division where if your not champ your not there......
i just think that they didn't want to risk getting into the ring with a masterful boxer like gomez

I thought Cruseirweight was gonna explode and be the hottest division in boxing a few years ago. The division is much better than people like to give it credit for.

The 3 belt holders are all exciting big punchers.

Braiwthatw
Mormeck
Davis

then you have

O'Neal Bell who always gives you a good fight.
Dale Brown is always tough.

Just imagine if Toney, Gomez and Jirov had stayed.


I think the Jirov that Toney fought would beat all of the present guys at cruiser...except maybe Braithewaite who can bang.

Gomez never should have fought Diaz...

... Johnny Nelson. That's the name I was looking for.

Oh - Enzo Macranelli... see, our Limeys are producing prospects for this division.

... Johnny Nelson. That's the name I was looking for.

Oh - Enzo Macranelli... see, our Limeys are producing prospects for this division.

Not sold on Macranelli, seriously doubt his chin at world level. He is also a little too upright but in a division as weak as the crusiers Macranelli`s power makes things interesting!

I've said it before, and I'll say it again.

Americans, pay attention. If you are at all interested in seeing the next superstar of the sport, try and track down footage of cruiserweight prospect, David Haye.

He sports one defeat by TKO, has a major question mark over his stamina and chin ... and he's also British. :confused:

I know hearing that will stop many in their tracks from seeking him out, but trust me, if you see what this guy is capable of (when he's not punching himself out and completely abandoning his plan of attack) you will understand why I have so much faith in him.

Kimmy - You'll live to rue the day you agreed to our bet. I can't wait to deface your signature with my ... filth. ;)

First off Haye gotta earn a title match, i only see him getting a shot aginst the WBO champ Nelson. But Hayefan.....that chin of David haye...its so weak!

There have been some great matches at cruiserweight though. Holyfied Vs. Quawi was a great fight and one of the last fights that went 15 rounds. The video I saw of it was pretty poor quality but it was a total war on par with Holyfield's war agaisnt Bowe. I thought the fight was even, but the judges all gave Holy a clear descision win.

The cruiserweight division is a cool division I think Holyfield Quawi, Toney-Jirov. There has been alot of really great cruiserweight title fights in the not so distant past.

First off Haye gotta earn a title match, i only see him getting a shot aginst the WBO champ Nelson. But Hayefan.....that chin of David haye...its so weak!

I know, and that may well take quite a while. I read somewhere that a cruiserweight tourney is being organised in this country featuring Mark Hobson, David Haye, Carl Thompson and 2 other fighters who's names I dont recall. Let's assume Haye comes out on top, You then have the much talked about match up between Enzo and Nelson, which will likely have taken place by the time the mentioned tourney has produced a winner.

My bet is that Nelson KO's Enzo and then retires. That's assuming he doesn't get beaten by the mediocre Cantatore, when or if they finally meet.

That leaves Haye either a date with Enzo or whoever Nelson's mandatory might be at the time.

Boom, Haye sets up a launch pad to big name fights. Haye will be underrated by all of the big guns, just as you are doing. They wont know what's hit them until they wake up on the canvas.

It might take more than a year, but I can wait, can you? :D

Having said all of that, I seriously hope Haye delays his inevitable move up to heavyweight. It's not that I dont think he'll do well there, I'd just rather see him take on the top cruisers first. He's a young guy, and it's the classier thing to do.

Yesss, but if Haye wins a vacant title then the bet void because as your have stated:
If David Haye fights Johnny Nelson, Jean-Marc Mormeck, O'Neil Bell or Wayne Braithwaite and wins by any means, I'll assign Kimmy a signature of my design, to be worn for a month. If he loses by any means, Kimmy will assign me a signature of his design, to be worn for a month's duration.

He has to beat a champion, winning a vacant title against one of those Mexican imports then feed British fighters on won`t count. he has to beat one of the current four champs!

Yesss, but if Haye wins a vacant title then the bet void because as your have stated:
If David Haye fights Johnny Nelson, Jean-Marc Mormeck, O'Neil Bell or Wayne Braithwaite and wins by any means, I'll assign Kimmy a signature of my design, to be worn for a month. If he loses by any means, Kimmy will assign me a signature of his design, to be worn for a month's duration.

He has to beat a champion, winning a vacant title against one of those Mexican imports then feed British fighters on won`t count. he has to beat one of the current four champs!

I can smell the panic in your words :D

Dont worry, the bet's only valid if Haye beats one of the names mentioned in my sig.

I think that the cruiser weight division should lie within the heavy weight division. Cruisers would fight and challenge for the Heavy weight title at their repected weights and would only lose their titles if they lost to someonat cruiser weight limts or an agreed upon weight.