View Full Version : Morales in the twelfth round
Solo322 03-28-2005, 08:34 PM WTF was Morales doing? When he switched stances to southpaw, he started catching right hands that staggered him. He was slipping all over the place and getting nailed too. Does anyone understand why he did that? It didn't give him a better chance to hit Pacquiao did it?
PRboxingfan 03-28-2005, 08:44 PM He was trying to slug it out for the fans. He said so to Larry Merchant in the interview. Giving fans what they paid for.
MlLkMan 03-28-2005, 08:45 PM He was trying to slug it out for the fans. He said so to Larry Merchant in the interview. Giving fans what they paid for.
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Kimmy 03-28-2005, 08:51 PM He was trying to slug it out for the fans. He said so to Larry Merchant in the interview. Giving fans what they paid for.
So what your saying is that he was dominant over pac to such an extent Morales had to switch to southpaw to bring Pac into the fight more so it is fought on more even terms? Actually, isn`t that what happend?
TyrantT316 03-28-2005, 09:51 PM he was almost out on his feet
Stickman 03-28-2005, 10:05 PM he was almost out on his feet
Almost? He was a hairsbreadth from handing a victory to Manny by pulling such a stupid stunt. I can understand him wanting to put on a show for the fans, but not at the risk of serious injury. He could've (and should've) traded from conventional stance, switching to southpaw against a southpaw was insanity at it's finest. He clearly took too many punches earlier in the fight :)
xrhythmxnxbluesx 03-28-2005, 10:18 PM he is truly the people's champ for pulling a stunt like that to statisfy the fans...
QueenCity 03-28-2005, 11:36 PM The twelfth round had to be one of my favorite parts of the fight, he was just kind of daring Pac to try and knock him out.
Famoso Matador 03-28-2005, 11:43 PM Morales was never really hurt in the 12th, though it might have looked like it cause he was of balance alot. he isnt a southpaw!
Chups 03-28-2005, 11:43 PM WTF was Morales doing? When he switched stances to southpaw, he started catching right hands that staggered him. He was slipping all over the place and getting nailed too. Does anyone understand why he did that? It didn't give him a better chance to hit Pacquiao did it?
Yes it was for tha fans coz he knew..he's not gonna get Knocked out by any fghter using pillow gloves. :D
Would you think he'd do that if Pac was wearing Cleto Reyes gloves? :D
Sir_Jose 03-28-2005, 11:47 PM Out on his feet my ass.
If it were Reyes Pac would been knocked out a long time ago.
Then we would be hearing about how Pac didn't have the right mouthpiece and thats what cost him the fight.
bigsmoothh 03-28-2005, 11:51 PM Yes it was for tha fans coz he knew..he's not gonna get Knocked out by any fghter using pillow gloves. :D
Would you think he'd do that if Pac was wearing Cleto Reyes gloves? :D
even though you TRY to make a stupid joke about the GLOVES you are in denial that pac would not be able to ko morales.even if he did had reyes gloves he still wouldnt ko morales.
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MetalVomit 03-28-2005, 11:55 PM Out on his feet my ass.
If it were Reyes Pac would been knocked out a long time ago.
Then we would be hearing about how Pac didn't have the right mouthpiece and thats what cost him the fight.
Amen to that ****!
adeelr 03-28-2005, 11:58 PM It was a daring move, i loved the part where he asked larry merchant if he enjoyed it. He was not bothered by the shots at all, cuz although the punches from pac seemed like they were hard in the twelfth, they probably weren't, cuz the gas was hitten empty at that time.
Mr. Untouchable 03-29-2005, 12:11 AM I think Morales just had to show everyone what was up, he knew he had fought his way to a when, so he switched up like he had did early in the fight and banged with pacman for a minute, it was a good preview for there rematch
Knicksman20 03-29-2005, 12:18 AM I thought it wasn't the smartest move but it added more drama. He was definitely hurt by Pacs punches in the 12th because when he got hit his eyes kinda rolled & he wasn't throwing back until he heard the 10 second mark. He's lucky he didn't get dropped from those punches.
SalvaDominicano 03-29-2005, 03:46 AM I thought it wasn't the smartest move but it added more drama. He was definitely hurt by Pacs punches in the 12th because when he got hit his eyes kinda rolled & he wasn't throwing back until he heard the 10 second mark. He's lucky he didn't get dropped from those punches.
pac should realize how lucky he is for not using puncher's gloves. if they were we wouldnt see 12 rds.
chito 03-29-2005, 07:43 AM pac should realize how lucky he is for not using puncher's gloves. if they were we wouldnt see 12 rds.
we wouldn't know until we know. anything can happen in boxing, just don't be so sure on what you're saying because you could be wrong. so, 'till they meet again, i hope pac won't get headbutt again. we'll see if he will be ko'd using a pair of reyes gloves! so until that day! in the meantime, pls. stop making pac look a bit helpless because he's not, he just lost by 2 points (was it lopsided?)
SnoopySmurf 03-29-2005, 08:45 AM There's a lot of Pacquiao haters here. Maybe coz they're Barrera fans? I dunno. But I think Pac fans would be doing the same if Pac won the fight. :)
Boxingfan81 03-29-2005, 08:47 AM Morales wasn't in any serious trouble in the 12th, his balance was just iffy because he was exhausted.
Morales was never really hurt in the 12th, though it might have looked like it cause he was of balance alot. he isnt a southpaw!
....He was hurt for sure. He nearly fell at the end of the round and was definitely unsteady on his feat. One more big shot from Pac would have put him down IMO.
BadMagick 03-29-2005, 09:25 AM Morales wasn't in any serious trouble in the 12th, his balance was just iffy because he was exhausted.
But if Pac had caught him with a good shot, he would have gone down, and lost the fight. It was a stupid move by him, but it ended okay.
ClydeErwinBarretto 03-29-2005, 09:28 AM What we're all forgetting also is why MORALES prefers the WINNING GLOVES, which is because his fists/knuckles are a lot more brittle compared to PAC's. So in a sense he would have to somewhat hold back a little more umph to prevent fist/knuckle/hand injury.
But then again we still wouldn't know what would have happened if they were to have used CLETO REYES gloves.
Deejay 03-30-2005, 01:28 AM Morales simply gives the fans their moneys worth. He is the purest warrior in the sport (along with Gatti). He's never in a dull fight & I love it when he gets tagged & it fires him up even more!! A living legend already and he isn't even 30 yet...scary...Love to see him vs JMM soon...That'll be one for the purists...
Famoso Matador 03-30-2005, 04:46 PM But if Pac had caught him with a good shot, he would have gone down, and lost the fight. It was a stupid move by him, but it ended okay.
Manny did catch him with a good shot.
Manny did catch him with a good shot.
He caught him with over 50 actually.
WTF was Morales doing? When he switched stances to southpaw, he started catching right hands that staggered him. He was slipping all over the place and getting nailed too. Does anyone understand why he did that? It didn't give him a better chance to hit Pacquiao did it?
Morales figured out two things early in this fight. First, he could take Manny's flush left hand, or right hand, and stay upright. Second, and more importntly, Manny wasn't even attempting combinations to the head. Take these two things and mix-in Morales ability to recover from big shots and keep throwing, he could do whatever the **** he wanted against Pac.
Stupid, yes. Brilliant, yeh.
Love to see him vs JMM soon...That'll be one for the purists...
I would piss my pants, in public, to see that fight today.
abdiel2k3 03-30-2005, 05:22 PM i watched it again
and man
manny was hitten him
but not as much as i first thought
morales was nailen pac with lead right hooks and strait lefts himself
manny looked just as stunned as erik by the punches
only diff was erik started slippen in the ring a lil
but o ya
Erik Is def the Man!!!!
m00ks 03-30-2005, 05:35 PM Out on his feet my ass.
If it were Reyes Pac would been knocked out a long time ago.
Then we would be hearing about how Pac didn't have the right mouthpiece and thats what cost him the fight.
I think Morales would have used Winning gloves regardless.
It seems to be an unfortunate reality that Pac's legacy is quickly becoming one of Great Performances, followed by a **** load of excuses.
abdiel2k3 03-30-2005, 09:42 PM It seems to be an unfortunate reality that Pac's legacy is quickly becoming one of Great Performances, followed by a **** load of excuses.
lol
thats what happens when ur one dimensional like him
Yarmez 03-30-2005, 10:04 PM Well i watched the fight just now, and he seemed off balanced more than seriously hurt, he did that alot in the barrera fights when he got rocked, but he is like the young holyfield just when you think he is hurt, he stands up, but hey good fight and i am so glad Morrales won, i really don't like Pacquio
lol
Thats what happens when ur one dimensional like him
One dimensional sure, but you have to give the guy credit for maximizes his gifts. And for working the right hand pretty well against Erik. But, in the end the right hand wasn't very effective, compared to his "one" big chance, that left.
Something that really shocked me in this fight was that Pac looked to have very ****ty balance. In his next fight, his opponent will have learned how to be successful countering (ala Marquez & Morales) plus, he'll now have seen that a Pac that's backing up cannot throw at the same time (i.e. counter) because his balance is absolute ****. That's gonna be exploited, 'cause it always looks like you're getting popped big time when you're off balance while the other guy is throwin'.
Well i watched the fight just now, and he seemed off balanced more than seriously hurt, he did that alot in the barrera fights when he got rocked, but he is like the young holyfield just when you think he is hurt, he stands up, but hey good fight and i am so glad Morrales won, i really don't like Pacquio
Just caught your post. Also just watched the fight again today.
That balancing act was bad lookin' stuff man. He seemed to keep funmbling backward and sideways until he touched the ropes, and then would start firing back, but until then he was ready for tagging.
Knicksman20 03-30-2005, 10:10 PM I don't think Morales felt Pacs full power like MAB or JMM. Morales was able to not let Pac get the distance he needs to drop the straight left down the pipe like he usually does. But Pac hurt him to the body in the 1st round but seldom worked the body again.
AIR_KENG 03-30-2005, 10:11 PM One dimensional sure, but you have to give the guy credit for maximizes his gifts. And for working the right hand pretty well against Erik. But, in the end the right hand wasn't very effective, compared to his "one" big chance, that left.
Something that really shocked me in this fight was that Pac looked to have very ****ty balance. In his next fight, his opponent will have learned how to be successful countering (ala Marquez & Morales) plus, he'll now have seen that a Pac that's backing up cannot throw at the same time (i.e. counter) because his balance is absolute ****. That's gonna be exploited, 'cause it always looks like you're getting popped big time when you're off balance while the other guy is throwin'.
i didn't like his right at all... he tried using it too much in the fight and didn't use his left well enough... he forced his so-called "manila ice" into erik and it did not work... i'll say this again, i like the one-demensional pac more than pac with the "ice"...
miron_lang 03-30-2005, 10:11 PM pac should realize how lucky he is for not using puncher's gloves. if they were we wouldnt see 12 rds.
Morales will still use winning to protect his hands. Each fighter can wear the gloves they prefer
guardian 03-30-2005, 10:15 PM I don't think Morales felt Pacs full power like MAB or JMM. Morales was able to not let Pac get the distance he needs to drop the straight left down the pipe like he usually does. But Pac hurt him to the body in the 1st round but seldom worked the body again.
Want carefully the last round BRO... Morales was hurt at that round but he definitely denied it.
TRUST the POWER of the PACMAN
guardian 03-30-2005, 10:16 PM Want carefully the last round BRO... Morales was hurt at that round but he definitely denied it.
TRUST the POWER of the PACMAN
hehehe what I meant was "WATCH" hehehe
mauricio95 03-31-2005, 05:02 AM hehehe what I meant was "WATCH" hehehe
it doesn't really matters at the final bell morales was still standin' erik that night was the better man and tha's final
live with it
deuce_drop 03-31-2005, 07:00 AM morales said he wanted to spice up the fight. i didn't mind. i'd like to see him do it again.... all i know is that morales is a bad ass mofo. i'll always buy one of his fights....
SnoopySmurf 03-31-2005, 08:08 AM it doesn't really matters at the final bell morales was still standin' erik that night was the better man and tha's final
live with it
He should have tried being a southpaw the entire fight. ;)
baard 03-31-2005, 10:02 AM cool move man, he showed he was a warrior with that!
He isnt used to a southpaw stance thats why he looked shaken up when he was hit and it was the twelth round so he was exhausted, i dont think he was hurt just off balance. Manny was shook up in the 10th so if "pillow gloves" could do that to him the Reyes gloves would have definitely put him down
abdiel2k3 03-31-2005, 01:45 PM One dimensional sure, but you have to give the guy credit for maximizes his gifts. And for working the right hand pretty well against Erik. But, in the end the right hand wasn't very effective, compared to his "one" big chance, that left.
Something that really shocked me in this fight was that Pac looked to have very ****ty balance. In his next fight, his opponent will have learned how to be successful countering (ala Marquez & Morales) plus, he'll now have seen that a Pac that's backing up cannot throw at the same time (i.e. counter) because his balance is absolute ****. That's gonna be exploited, 'cause it always looks like you're getting popped big time when you're off balance while the other guy is throwin'.
i think he had bad balnce cuz erik kpet him off balance
he wouldnt really let him set up
and soon as he did set up
and threw his shots
erik would blockem
chasem down throwin him off rhythm
def has made best of his limitations
and i htink he should keep on
i dont like hwo they tryed to make hjim use his right more
its a good idea
but obviously not a good plan
if i were with him
id just have him do what he does best
its like gatti
ya he can box
but hes meant to slug it out
he coulda put leija away much fatser had he just fought him
he woulda imposed his size n strngth
like pac could imposse his quick hard left
chito 03-31-2005, 07:49 PM there were times during a round when morales would duck his head to avoid pacman and this really worked very well for him because pacman couldn't throw his best punch coz he's a little off-balance. morales is really better than barrera and better than marquez when fighting pacquiao. i wish morales would fight marquez, i don' know what would happen.
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