View Full Version : pbf will run like a ***** from Gatti!!!


dansweeney
03-28-2005, 04:13 PM
you heard it here first, mayweather will run like a ***** for 12 rounds and try to get a ud, there is no way he has the balls to go for the kayo in fear of getting caught with something big, if he mixes it up ill be shocked. he is talking so much crap because he is scared

jack_the_rippuh
03-28-2005, 04:17 PM
Okay, I disagree with what you said. I think he'll stop Gatti, I don't know how, but I know he'll stop 'em..

I got a question, though...why would he talk **** if he's scared?

Hurlex
03-28-2005, 04:22 PM
we all know that PBF loves to talk ****...he couldnt ko corely but he will drop on of the hardest chin fighter out?,come on...ward(a strong ass hitter)couldnt drop gatti until the 9th round....PBF need to get KTFO or KD once so he can shut up,what a day it will be if gatti ko's PBF(which is not impossible,infact its very likely)...if this fight goes into the 8-9th round and gatti knows he is losing,he will bring war to PBF and Floyd will...WILL run like a *****...i just hope gatti catches him on the ropes :boxing:

dansweeney
03-28-2005, 04:22 PM
Okay, I disagree with what you said. I think he'll stop Gatti, I don't know how, but I know he'll stop 'em..

I got a question, though...why would he talk **** if he's scared?

because he is nervous, he is trying to pysche himself up by putting down gatti, he is trying to convince himself. he has never talked this much ****. the best part about it is that he keeps saying that "gatti sucks, gatti is a c class fighter, gatti fights bums" if that is the case then why would he want to fight such a bum? i dont think he really believes it, if he did he wouldnt want the fight

dansweeney
03-28-2005, 04:23 PM
if gatti doesnt get him the next tough fighter will, its a matter of time, he is no b-hop, who can walk it and talk it. if gatti is so ****ty lets see him poke that chin out, just once lets see it

.::|ULTIMATE|::.
03-28-2005, 04:26 PM
I thought it was to be expected that Floyd would circle the ring from the outside all night?

jack_the_rippuh
03-28-2005, 04:27 PM
He's doing it for publicity and money.



p.s. That interview was funny as hell, though. McGirt said they're going to hit Mayweather in the Medula Oblangata... apparently Mayweather wants to bet $1,000,000 that he will win.

dansweeney
03-28-2005, 04:28 PM
He's doing it for publicity and money.



p.s. That interview was funny as hell, though. McGirt said they're going to hit Mayweather in the Medula Oblangata... apparently Mayweather wants to bet $1,000,000 that he will win.


that is funny, basically they want to rabbit punch him

dansweeney
03-28-2005, 04:33 PM
LOL. :D

Apparently, we are seeing a potential "excuse in the making". If PBF does run, Gatti supporters are going to claim that:

"If PBF did not run.......Gatti would have won".

That is why I hope Floyd knocks his overrated ass out.


everyone agrees that gatti is not sugar ray robinson, i think your mistaken on who is overrated in this fight. if mayweather runs he will never get another ppv fight again. period. he is a real ***** with no heart, lets see him face some adversity, gatti ko in 8

jack_the_rippuh
03-28-2005, 04:34 PM
This lost can be more devasting to Gatti's career than some may think. When he loses, you better believe there's going to be an excuse.

dansweeney
03-28-2005, 04:35 PM
This lost can be more devasting to Gatti's career than some may think. When he loses, you better believe there's going to be an excuse.


he already has 6 losses, and he's made alot of coin, he has absolutely nothing to lose, if he goes out on his shield fighting like a REAL MAN, it will add to his legend, trust me on that. if floyd loses he will never, i repeat never achieve the status he claims to already have.

oldgringo
03-28-2005, 04:38 PM
Mayweather is going to **** on Gatti. He'll pick his spots and lace into Gatti when he overextends himself, eventually stopping him or taking a lopsided decision. It's gonna look a lot like the Corrales fight...two different classes of fighters...

dansweeney
03-28-2005, 04:43 PM
Mayweather is going to **** on Gatti. He'll pick his spots and lace into Gatti when he overextends himself, eventually stopping him or taking a lopsided decision. It's gonna look a lot like the Corrales fight...two different classes of fighters...

no way he beats gatti as badly, gatti will hit him with a straight right early and ,floyd will be like "oh **** i better run like a ***** for the rest of the match so i dont get kayoed" he will probably win a ud on that but he wont have the balls to go for the kayo

Tha_Greatest
03-28-2005, 04:43 PM
Gatti will chase down the gutless toad(Mayweather), but the gutless toad will soon knock out Gatti in the 11th

NiGe2011
03-28-2005, 05:14 PM
I cannot help but laugh at people who are saying that the fact that Floyd is going to box and move means that he is "gutless", "scared", "a coward", etc... I mean, dont get me wrong- for the most part my favorite fighters are punchers (Chico for instance) but in no way do I think Floyd is scared of Gatti. I mean, why is he scared? Because he is gonna box him instead of stand and trade? That just doesnt make any sense, strategy does not equal bravery people! If you all had your way then Ali would have been knocked out by Foreman, or Fraizer, or Liston cause he would have just stayed in the pocket till he got KO'ed! I mean, on a scale of 1 to 10, one being intellegent and ten being stupid, this has to be peaking at around a 13! Yeah, I am sure Floyd is terrified of the guy who is probably going to hospitalize without really over exerting himself. He is shaking in his boots at the prospect of one of the biggest and easiest payday's of his career! (right) The fact is that most of Gatti's loyal followers have been asking for him to box more and stand and trade less, not because they want him to be a more fearful fighter, but because they want him to be a SMARTER fighter! (Which is probably not going to happen too soon)

Tha_Greatest
03-28-2005, 05:34 PM
I cannot help but laugh at people who are saying that the fact that Floyd is going to box and move means that he is "gutless", "scared", "a coward", etc... I mean, dont get me wrong- for the most part my favorite fighters are punchers (Chico for instance) but in no way do I think Floyd is scared of Gatti. I mean, why is he scared? Because he is gonna box him instead of stand and trade? That just doesnt make any sense, strategy does not equal bravery people! If you all had your way then Ali would have been knocked out by Foreman, or Fraizer, or Liston cause he would have just stayed in the pocket till he got KO'ed! I mean, on a scale of 1 to 10, one being intellegent and ten being stupid, this has to be peaking at around a 13! Yeah, I am sure Floyd is terrified of the guy who is probably going to hospitalize without really over exerting himself. He is shaking in his boots at the prospect of one of the biggest and easiest payday's of his career! (right) The fact is that most of Gatti's loyal followers have been asking for him to box more and stand and trade less, not because they want him to be a more fearful fighter, but because they want him to be a SMARTER fighter! (Which is probably not going to happen too soon)
I respect your opinion , you knew me as Rahman (the rock)but he dodges all great fights and never fights great vs. stiffs. The one good fighter hes beaten was Chico but Chico was in problems at the time(legal), so that might have made him unfocused at the time. Hes unofficially lost his first fight with Castillo so he ran in the second

oldgringo
03-28-2005, 05:37 PM
I cannot help but laugh at people who are saying that the fact that Floyd is going to box and move means that he is "gutless", "scared", "a coward", etc... I mean, dont get me wrong- for the most part my favorite fighters are punchers (Chico for instance) but in no way do I think Floyd is scared of Gatti. I mean, why is he scared? Because he is gonna box him instead of stand and trade? That just doesnt make any sense, strategy does not equal bravery people! If you all had your way then Ali would have been knocked out by Foreman, or Fraizer, or Liston cause he would have just stayed in the pocket till he got KO'ed! I mean, on a scale of 1 to 10, one being intellegent and ten being stupid, this has to be peaking at around a 13! Yeah, I am sure Floyd is terrified of the guy who is probably going to hospitalize without really over exerting himself. He is shaking in his boots at the prospect of one of the biggest and easiest payday's of his career! (right) The fact is that most of Gatti's loyal followers have been asking for him to box more and stand and trade less, not because they want him to be a more fearful fighter, but because they want him to be a SMARTER fighter! (Which is probably not going to happen too soon)


Thank god...the truth is now out. Of course we'd like to see every fighter just stand and trade with their opponent...but then again the sport is called BOXING...not slugging.

NiGe2011
03-28-2005, 05:40 PM
I respect your opinion , you knew me as Rahman (the rock)but he dodges all great fights and never fights great vs. stiffs. The one good fighter hes beaten was Chico but Chico was in problems at the time(legal), so that might have made him unfocused at the time. Hes unofficially lost his first fight with Castillo so he ran in the second

You were the Rock man? I thought you were gone! I just name dropped you over on the "boxing movies" thread! hahaha.

Anyway, while this is true about Castillo and Mayweather, and I am not even going to discuss Chico and Floyd (haha)- I think that Gatti just is not on Floyd's caliber, nor Chico's or Castillo's for that matter. And sometimes it is just smarter to move then to stand and trade- I mean, I wish Chico would do it more often!

Knicksman20
03-28-2005, 05:43 PM
PBF doesn't run. He'll stand in the pocket & fight & make the other fighter miss & Gatti won't be any different. He stood in the pocket against N'Dou, Castillo, & Corrales. You think he's going to scared to do the same with Gatti? No way. He's gonna beat Gatti up & stop him because his skills are far superior.

Tha_Greatest
03-28-2005, 05:52 PM
Thinking of how overated Gatti power is, Mayweather probably will stand and beat up Gatti. Who has Gatti ever really knocked out to give him this puncher reputation

SacTown1
03-28-2005, 05:56 PM
Thinking of how overated Gatti power is, Mayweather probably will stand and beat up Gatti. Who has Gatti ever really knocked out to give him this puncher reputation
Good call, Gatti's power is a complete myth, knocking out Leija and Dorin only proved that both of those guys were too old and too small... Pretty Boy will have every physical advantage possible, aside from height, which won't even matter...Floyd will dominate 12 outta 12 rounds and get a 115-113 decision win from the AC judges

Tha_Greatest
03-28-2005, 06:03 PM
Gatti has a weak chin, hell probably need to run like hell from Mayweather

SacTown1
03-28-2005, 06:05 PM
Gatti has a weak chin, hell probably need to run like hell from Mayweather
I wouldn't call it a "weak chin", he's never been taken out by 1 shot, but his defense is horrid and Floyd should land about 70% of his shots and win an easy decision

Tha_Greatest
03-28-2005, 06:15 PM
the day he faught Castillo, floyd ran so much that even at the end of the last rds. in the fight. The HBO people were praising Castillo saying things like Castillo looked like he was going for the ko when it was Castillo who was ahead on points

Red_Menace
03-28-2005, 07:14 PM
I think Mayweather will win. I'm a big Gatti fan. He's exciting to watch. He's faster than people give him credit for. He can box, when he wants to, but not in the same calibre as Mayweather. I'm hoping Gatti will give him a good run, because I don't think his power is a myth. Micky Ward says Gatti hits hard, and I don't have any reason to think he's lying. You look at what he did to Joey Gamache, and you know he has power. Watch the fight with Terron Millet, or Wilson Rodriguez, and you'll see it there too. I think Castillo proved that Mayweather can be beaten, and I'm hoping that Gatti is the one to do it, even though I'd say the odds are very slim. Mayweather is just a really smart fighter, and second in defense only to Hopkins. I'm not sure if Gatti has the skill to take him. I think we'll see Gatti with some cuts for the first time in years, and that could lead to an early stop. Hopefully Gatti can make it exciting, even if he loses (like his fights against Robinson).

ThunderGatti
03-28-2005, 08:00 PM
JM and SacTown u guys are funny, ask gabe ruelas and wilson rodriguez if Gatti's power is a myth, better yet ask terron millet. That could be the most retarded statement ever posted on this board that I have seen on this board period.

Reguardless Gatti will win, he will go to the body early and demobilize Mayweathers ability to move around, (much like Tarver did against Roy) and get the KO.

And for the record I disagree w/ this post Gayweather would be stupid if he didnt box Gatti.

PRboxingfan
03-28-2005, 08:55 PM
JM and SacTown u guys are funny, ask gabe ruelas and wilson rodriguez if Gatti's power is a myth, better yet ask terron millet. That could be the most retarded statement ever posted on this board that I have seen on this board period.

Reguardless Gatti will win, he will go to the body early and demobilize Mayweathers ability to move around, (much like Tarver did against Roy) and get the KO.

And for the record I disagree w/ this post Gayweather would be stupid if he didnt box Gatti.
Yeah, how about Joey Gamache? Those KO's were because Gatti weighed about 20 pounds more than the other guy on fight night. That doesn't show your power, just shows your abuse.

Mayweather is too fast for Gatti. Gatti will try to catch him but PBF will give him too much lateral movement. PBF also fights great while going backwards and will connect at will while Gatti looks like a buffoon chasing him.

I don't think we'll see any KDs, much less any KOs. The fight might end on a TKO for cuts on Gatti's end or it might be stopped by McGirt if Gatti is taking too much of a beating (like Emanuel Augustus' people did when he fought PBF).

Kimmy
03-28-2005, 09:24 PM
Mayweather will stop Gatti believe me. Gatti can not take Floyd`s accurate shots and Gatti`s defence erm....ok what defence. Gatti will be taken apart and i think Mayweather will face up with Gatti and block, weave and evade all of Gatti`s big shots. I know Gatti is very popular and everything but lets be honest. Gatti is not in Floyd`s class, he`ll be destoryed in 8 rounds!

Knicksman20
03-28-2005, 10:53 PM
LOL. Can you type that one more time please?
From what I saw, he was on the ol' bicycle.

I am a Mayweather fan.....but jesus. That is an overstatement.

What are you talking about, did you ever watch the 1st fight? In I believe in the championship rounds PBF stood in the middle of the ring & out boxed Castillo who couldn't hit him clean. He even was warned for using his elbows because he was pushing off on Castillo. He was very effective in the middle of the ring & not backing up.

QueenCity
03-28-2005, 11:10 PM
I can enjoy Artuto Gatti's fights as much as anybody but on June 25th he's gonna be brought out to slaughter. It a mismatch and Mayweather could very well beat him as bad as De La Hoya did. Gatti has now more than a slim and none punchers chance. :boxing:

As for Mayweather and Castillo's first fight Castillo was clearly the better fighter that night he punished Mayweather on the ropes and landed more and harder shot than Mayweather did.

Knicksman20
03-28-2005, 11:21 PM
I believe it was more like circling in the center of the ring, and not necessarily "standing in the pocket and trading" like you said. Perhaps our perception of the fight differed........slightly.

He wasn't really circling. He was in the pocket using his famous shoulder roll deflecting punches & countering Castillo very effectively. He made the fight look easier when he was doing that. Even the hbo commentators commented on the fact of what he was doing.

Yarmez
03-28-2005, 11:29 PM
FLoyd Will run to some extent i feel, but i think he would love to knockout Gatti and will give it a go, but man would i love to see gattin land a bomb on Floyd and drop him on his ass.

MlLkMan
03-29-2005, 01:23 AM
I think Gatti will run from Floyd

FuryDragon
03-29-2005, 02:23 AM
First -- "You heard here first, blah blah blah?" Okay buddy, that should be a news headline, because what you have discovered is simply unprecedented, not. Floyd Mayweather Jr. boxes, that's his STYLE, that's how he does his business. Of COURSE he is going to "run" from Gatti, he is going to counter-punch the hell out of him.

Second - Mayweather hasn't fought anyone other than Chico? Are you kidding me? Jose Luis Castillo, Jesus Chavez, and DeMarcus Corley are apparently no bodies...just like I'm sure Arturo Gatti will be put into the same bundle of "no bodies" that Mayweather has fought after June 25th.

Haters will be haters, simple as that. If Floyd was that scared of Gatti he would've ducked him. If Floyd stood and exchanged it wouldn't be consistent with his style. If you wanna see a slugest go watch some fat sloppy heavyweights droop all over each other and exchange punches, because on June 25th there is going to be some actual talented boxing taking place.

I enjoy watching both Gatti and Mayweather, as I am fans of both. However, I think Mayweather is going to walk away with a 12 round unanimous decision after another beautiful display of his consistent counter punching abilities.

Kimmy
03-29-2005, 06:55 AM
I dis - agree, there is no way i see Gatti lasting the distsnce with Mayweather, no way! He cuts, remember all those fights that he cut up! The only reaon he hasn`t cut recently is because he has been in with light hitters like Branco, Ward, Dorin and leja! Gatti`s camp have been able to win a world title belt without fighting a world class fighter. Dorin was world class but in the wrong weight division. Unfortunately for Gatti, Mayweather is a mandatory and cannot be avoided. He`ll get a decent pay day then be stopped by a fighter in another class altogether!

Alpha Male
03-29-2005, 01:41 PM
Floyd's gonna do what he does best and that's put on a boxing clinic like no other. For all those who are looking for a slug fest, it ain't gonna happen. This is boxing were skills prevail, not a toughman competition.

dangerousity
03-29-2005, 05:57 PM
Gatti is a boxer, he doesnt need to stand and trade with Gatti. He will outbox Gatti very easily and possibly stop him by TKO. Leonard ranned from Hagler & Duran like crazy but that was his style...

FuryDragon
03-29-2005, 10:54 PM
Who would win in a fight between Gatti and Gatti? Hahahah...re-read your post bro.

Boxfan12
03-29-2005, 11:20 PM
you heard it here first, mayweather will run like a ***** for 12 rounds and try to get a ud, there is no way he has the balls to go for the kayo in fear of getting caught with something big, if he mixes it up ill be shocked. he is talking so much crap because he is scared




floyd is to fast. heres what gatti needs to do. Give 4 to 6 rounds away attacking the body and arms,and try to avoid as much punishment he can. AFter the beating on the arms floyd will start to push punches and drop them. Then gatti needs to try to land somthing big. But i must say floyd is to fast. Sorry guys i cant go in detail right now rushing this post my ride is here. so if it looks crap it is lol.

Deejay
03-30-2005, 01:02 AM
I think Gatti has a better chance than most people think he has...I can see an upset if he manages to take Floyd into the later rounds and slow him down with body punches. However in order to do that he will take some punishment and he may get cut. Also, I think weight will be a big advantage for Gatti too. His naturally bigger frame will accomodate for heavier punches so you never know!!

BBFM
03-30-2005, 04:42 AM
i never knew gatti hard such a hard chin i thought he only fought scrubs...

NAB
03-30-2005, 04:48 AM
Floyd may well run, but you can bet he will be landing enough leather to puff up & possibly cut Gatti along the way.

NAB
03-30-2005, 04:50 AM
floyd is to fast. heres what gatti needs to do. Give 4 to 6 rounds away attacking the body and arms,and try to avoid as much punishment he can. AFter the beating on the arms floyd will start to push punches and drop them. Then gatti needs to try to land somthing big. But i must say floyd is to fast. Sorry guys i cant go in detail right now rushing this post my ride is here. so if it looks crap it is lol.

I agree with this - the only chance Gatti has is to try to wear Floyd down, & bang the &%$#!! out of Floyd's arms... but I don't know if he has the ability.

Red_Menace
03-30-2005, 07:19 AM
I agree with this - the only chance Gatti has is to try to wear Floyd down, & bang the &%$#!! out of Floyd's arms... but I don't know if he has the ability.

Probably not. Win or lose, Gatti is going to take a serious beating. If Gatti doesn't go to the body often, which he doesn't seem to do as often now that Buddy is his trainer, he won't have a chance of winning.

ThunderGatti
03-30-2005, 12:22 PM
For all you morons that think Gatti has been ducking Mayweather need to get ur facts straight. He's wanted a piece of Mayweather or KT since early 2004. Gatti will fight anybody. Why do think he wants this fight so bad!!?? to prove to you nay sayers that he can beat a world class fighter. He knows what boxing fans are sayin he aint stupid.

And that is the differance Gatti wants this fight to define his carreer while Floyd is already looking past him, that is Gayweathers first mistake. Gatti is more hungry and by the looks of it more serious, I hope PBF had a good time partying w/ puff daddy. Gatti will win a unamious dec. if Gayweather doesnt get KO'd with that glass jaw of his.

jack_the_rippuh
03-30-2005, 12:26 PM
Gatti and his people knew he could make money fighting B-level fighters and bums, and they also knew that he never had a shot at beating guys with talent after his previous attempts failed. All the sudden they win a couple of fights against bums and now they're going to make that same "up the competition" mistake they made when they decided to put him in there with the Golden Boy...only this time, Floyd Mayweather is going to end Arturo Gatti. After PBF beats Gatti there will be no where for Gatti to go, except move up in weight, and he knows he can't hang with a 147 lber.

RwK
03-30-2005, 12:31 PM
Gatti is more hungry and by the looks of it more serious, I hope PBF had a good time partying w/ puff daddy. Gatti will win a unamious dec. if Gayweather doesnt get KO'd with that glass jaw of his.

Ok. First off, this is where you are not paying attention to their press conferences and training in general. Floyd is training and partying at the same time, but Only because he knows this fight will not require him to be at 100% in order to win. Mayweather on a half tank is still good enough to beat Arturo Gatti, because he is leauges a head as a fighter.

As for "being hungry", I think Mayweather showed his "hungriness" somewhat when he yelled about beating Gatti, and shouting "Im gonna beat this Bum". I suppose he was just selling the fight, but I would not disagree with a damn word he says at this point.

enadeus
03-30-2005, 12:34 PM
Gatti is an overrated fighter. Micky Ward was a great slugger but he is not a great fighter either. Look at his record. However, this will be a great fight bottomline because gatti will definetely go all out. They are both flashy guys so my guess is Mayweather will do the same.

ThunderGatti
03-30-2005, 12:55 PM
Ok. First off, this is where you are not paying attention to their press conferences and training in general. Floyd is training and partying at the same time, but Only because he knows this fight will not require him to be at 100% in order to win. Mayweather on a half tank is still good enough to beat Arturo Gatti, because he is leauges a head as a fighter.

As for "being hungry", I think Mayweather showed his "hungriness" somewhat when he yelled about beating Gatti, and shouting "Im gonna beat this Bum". I suppose he was just selling the fight, but I would not disagree with a damn word he says at this point.
"Floyd is training and partying at the same time, but Only because he knows this fight will not require him to be at 100% in order to win."
- Run w/knives -

Right on,u proved my point. I've seen and heard the press conferences, thank you. I dont care who the hell you are, if your not training to your best ability that shows me your not taking this fight seriously and that will be PBF downfall. PBF is not training to beat his wife hes fighting Arturo "Thunder" Gatti.

I hope he keeps training the way he says he does even though I think he is full of ****, but I hope there are some good parties between now and June 25, somebody get Floyd an invite, u think 50 Cent or Nelly is throwin down??

And by calling Gatti a bum Mayweahter seemed more disrespectful and classless than "hungry."

manila_assasin
03-30-2005, 12:56 PM
Wuestion from an idiot: What does PBF mean?

ThunderGatti
03-30-2005, 01:01 PM
PBF = Pretty Boy Floyd

boxernyc
03-30-2005, 04:11 PM
Wuestion from an idiot: What does PBF mean?

Petty *****ing Fool (this is in regards to the slave wages comment) or Pretty but F'd up (in regards to his boxing skill and the fact that he likes to use it 'allegedly' on women).

On a serious note. I'm not a Floyd hater, I really don't care for him but as the saying goes, if you don't like the station, change the channel. I'm rooting for Gatti - see my poorly photoshoped avatar which is up for today only as it is too silly - but I give him a 1 in 15 shot. Floyd has mad skills, way more than Gatti. And his style is not made for Gatti. But Gatti could get to him. Not sure he will though. A DLH style or a Hopkins style is one that could challenge Floyd better. I am not saying DLH could beat him (I think his head is out of the game even if he still boxes) but someone with his speed (foot and hand) and accuracy or Hopkins all around boxing acumen.

dansweeney
03-30-2005, 04:34 PM
the reason why floyd will look like a ***** if he runs and boxes is because he keeps talking **** about knocking gatti out easily, if he is gonna run and box he needs to stop talking like a power puncher

Kid Achilles
03-30-2005, 04:34 PM
Great avatar. Though I think something went wrong during the development of the photograph as Gatti's head looks a little weird.

That was taken during their televised sparring session on HBO Sports, wasn't it? If I recall, Gatti brutally knocked Mayweather out in the first round with a soft jab. Mayweather later remarked:

"Damn, and he was just going light. I still can't find those two molars."

When asked about a potential matchup with Gatti:

"Are you crazy? You couldn't pay me to spar with him again, let alone fight that animal for real!"


But that was years ago. I guess when enough money is offered, a professional like Mayweather would take any fight.

jack_the_rippuh
03-30-2005, 04:39 PM
That's pretty sad that you only put your confidence in Floyd not coming in at the top of his game as a way for Gatti to win. Why not focus on something else, because that makes what you say about Gatti not being trash, seem false.

dansweeney
03-30-2005, 04:45 PM
That's pretty sad that you only put your confidence in Floyd not coming in at the top of his game as a way for Gatti to win. Why not focus on something else, because that makes what you say about Gatti not being trash, seem false.


anybody who thinks gatti is trash is no fan of boxing, he has had more exciting fights in his career than mayweather has had exciting rounds in his. mayweather is a loud mouth little **** who claims to be the best, if he is the best than why isnt he fighting the best instead of Gatti who in his own words a "c class fighter", you know why? because he couldnt fill a school auditoriom by himself, nobody cares about his ass, the sooner he gets kayoed and retires the better for the sport, nobody needs his wife beating, champagne bottle wielding little ass around anyway

jack_the_rippuh
03-30-2005, 04:51 PM
anybody who thinks gatti is trash is no fan of boxing, he has had more exciting fights in his career than mayweather has had exciting rounds in his. mayweather is a loud mouth little **** who claims to be the best, if he is the best than why isnt he fighting the best instead of Gatti who in his own words a "c class fighter", you know why? because he couldnt fill a school auditoriom by himself, nobody cares about his ass, the sooner he gets kayoed and retires the better for the sport, nobody needs his wife beating, champagne bottle wielding little ass around anyway

I'm in no way justifying Mayweather's violence towards his wife, but other boxers have beaten thier wife also.

As far as why Mayweather is fighting Gatti, it's simple...he's a stepping stone, for Mayweather, in terms of popularity and it's free money...who wouldn't take free money?

Oh yeah...and I guess by your standards I'm no fan of boxing, with that said....:ban:

dansweeney
03-30-2005, 04:54 PM
I'm in no way justifying Mayweather's disputes with his wife, but other boxers have beaten thier wife also.

As far as why Mayweather is fight Gatti, it's simple...he's a stepping stone in terms of popularity and it's free money...who wouldn't take free money?

I guess by your standards I'm no fan of boxing, with that said....:ban:


you would rather watch pbf fight than gatti? it must not take much to excite you man, i just hate the mayweathers, theyre all ugly as hell and have big mouths, floyd sr sounds like a crack head and roger talks way too much ****, gatti is a respected fighter, trashing him wont help mayweather's popularity

jack_the_rippuh
03-30-2005, 05:01 PM
you would rather watch pbf fight than gatti? it must not take much to excite you man, i just hate the mayweathers, theyre all ugly as hell and have big mouths, floyd sr sounds like a crack head and roger talks way too much ****, gatti is a respected fighter, trashing him wont help mayweather's popularity

I would rather watch Mayweather over Gatti any day, especially the new Gatti. That fight with "Jesse" James Leija sucked nuts. The only thing other fighters respect Gatti for is his heart. I'm not sure I ever heard anything positive about Gatti other than he has a tremendous amount of heart. You're right that Trashing Gatti won't help Mayweather's popularity, but trashing him and backing it up, like he'll do on June 25th, in front of all of Gatti's fans, on his home turf, will do alot for his popularity.

Famoso Matador
03-30-2005, 05:01 PM
Dutch Door Action.

If PBF wins.......people will just say:

"he beat up a bum".


you have lost your mind. Yea excuses will prabobly be made by both sides depending on who wins. But Gatti a bum?

dansweeney
03-30-2005, 05:06 PM
I would rather watch Mayweather over Gatti any day, especially the new Gatti. That fight with "Jesse" James Leija sucked nuts. The only thing other fighters respect Gatti for is his heart. I'm not sure I ever heard anything positive about Gatti other than he has a tremendous amount of heart. You're right that Trashing Gatti won't help Mayweather's popularity, but trashing him and backing it up, like he'll do on June 25th, in front of all of Gatti's fans, on his home turf, will do alot for his popularity.


i dont think so, he keeps saying how bad gatti is so what would beating him down prove? its not like gatti is undefeated, Gatti's fans dont love him because he is a p4p fighter, they love his heart determination and unbreakable will, something pbf will never understand or comprehend. if gatti gets mauled he will still sell out ac boardwalk in his next fight, thats just the way it is, you pbf fans just dont get it

ELPacman
03-30-2005, 05:09 PM
PBF is going to be KTFO by the new and improved Gatti.

Moon
03-30-2005, 05:13 PM
everyone agrees that gatti is not sugar ray robinson, i think your mistaken on who is overrated in this fight. if mayweather runs he will never get another ppv fight again. period. he is a real ***** with no heart, lets see him face some adversity, gatti ko in 8
Never thought this day would come. I agree with Dan Sweeney 100%. If May wants the big pays that follows guys like Gatti, he'll need to mix-it-up in the ring as much as he talks outside the ring. If he does beat Gatti or not, he'll probably WANT the rematch to get another payday.

mic573
03-30-2005, 05:18 PM
For all you morons that think Gatti has been ducking Mayweather need to get ur facts straight. He's wanted a piece of Mayweather or KT since early 2004. Gatti will fight anybody. Why do think he wants this fight so bad!!?? to prove to you nay sayers that he can beat a world class fighter. He knows what boxing fans are sayin he aint stupid.

And that is the differance Gatti wants this fight to define his carreer while Floyd is already looking past him, that is Gayweathers first mistake. Gatti is more hungry and by the looks of it more serious, I hope PBF had a good time partying w/ puff daddy. Gatti will win a unamious dec. if Gayweather doesnt get KO'd with that glass jaw of his.

Mayweather has always looked past his opponents but in the ring he is 100% focused. When have you seen Mayweather never focused in the ring? Even when he's playing around with the commentators he is in full control of the action. Floyd has been asking for this fight for a very long time because he knows beating one of HBO's best attraction will bring him the attention that he wants and deserves. He has even said this is a defining fight for his career and I think it is Mayweather who is more hungry because he has waited for this opportunity for a long time.

Mayweather by one-sided decision. Gatti will have his moments but that's what they will be just moments.

dansweeney
03-30-2005, 05:20 PM
Mayweather has always looked past his opponents but in the ring he is 100% focused. When have you seen Mayweather never focused in the ring? Even when he's playing around with the commentators he is in full control of the action. Floyd has been asking for this fight for a very long time because he knows beating one of HBO's best attraction will bring him the attention that he wants and deserves. He has even said this is a defining fight for his career and I think it is Mayweather who is more hungry because he has waited for this opportunity for a long time.

Mayweather by one-sided decision. Gatti will have his moments but that's what they will be just moments.

its the defining fight of his career? he says gatti is a bum but this is his defining fight? what a loser, gatti will probably kayo him, if he doesnt kt or dela hoya will humiliate his little ass, plus he was talking **** on b-hop, they will never meet in the ring, but id love to see him say that to hop's face on the street, he would get a beatdown

Floydmayweather
03-30-2005, 05:23 PM
Anyone who thinks Gatti will win is not thinking clearly. Mayweather has beaten much better oppostion Manfready, Castillo 2x i had one a draw Corley, Corales among others. Gatti has fought alot of decent fighters but no great fighters. He is easy to hit and against an accurate, very fast fighter like Floyd he is in big trouble. Gatti got beat by Manfready and PBF beat the hell out of him this is a mismatch and is just a stepping stone for bigger fights for Floyd.

mic573
03-30-2005, 05:31 PM
its the defining fight of his career? he says gatti is a bum but this is his defining fight? what a loser, gatti will probably kayo him, if he doesnt kt or dela hoya will humiliate his little ass, plus he was talking **** on b-hop, they will never meet in the ring, but id love to see him say that to hop's face on the street, he would get a beatdown

It's a defining fight that will get his name out more not because Gatti is a great fighter. Tell me how Gatti will probably KO Mayweather. It's not like Gatti can run out there and try to go for a knockout. If he did he really would be torn apart. Trust me the way Buddy McGirt and Gatti are both talking about trying to box with Mayweather they are just giving the fight away. Gatti simply can't outbox Mayweather because he is just not as great a boxer as Mayweather.

The only way I see Gatti winning is if he fights a smart well planned out fight that involves alot of pressure. If he tries his new boxing technique you can forget it. If he comes out wild looking for a knockout you can forget a win there as well.

boxernyc
03-30-2005, 05:36 PM
That's pretty sad that you only put your confidence in Floyd not coming in at the top of his game as a way for Gatti to win. Why not focus on something else, because that makes what you say about Gatti not being trash, seem false.

Just because I can say that Floyd is a better boxer doesn't mean that boxers below him are trash. A good example is that I think Tsyzu is awesome and will most likely crush Hatton but I don't think Hatton is a bum or trash. I think Hatton is a good competitor and Tsyzu is a class above him. The difference is that I like them both whereas I only respect Floyd for his skill not his mouth or actions outside the ring and I like Gatti for his boxing skill and tough as nails style. For that matter I like Ward too. Both are considered bums by the fans of cutie boxers.

I respect boxers who step between the ropes professionally too much to call any of them a bum. I box and I give the people who do it as a pro a lot of credit. It is a f'n hard profession.

Unless a boxer does something particularly egregious (Golota's tap dance below the belt comes to mind) I don't bad mouth them. But I guess we approach boxing from different angles and like different styles.

jack_the_rippuh
03-30-2005, 05:42 PM
I said it once, and I'll say it again. We'll see if Mayweather has heart and the will the dig deep, when and only when he's put in that position. If he keeps fighting in fights where he's just dominant, and superior to who he's up against, we won't see that. If Arturo Gatti fights guys classes below him, we wouldn't see his will to win, we'd just a see a dominating performance.

My question is why should Mayweather make a fight harder than it has to be?

Red_Menace
03-30-2005, 06:13 PM
It's wrong to call Gatti a bum. He's a good fighter. He's certainly not the best, and won't be remembered as a top ten in his weight division. But he's exciting to watch, and he has a lot of character. The Gatti that lost to DLH is not the Gatti that's fighting now. When he lost to DLH, he was at the bottom of his career because he wasn't training. He was out partying. He started as a skill boxer, and slowly deteriorated into a brawler, because he wasn't training. He was brawling because he didn't have anything else to bring into the ring. Now that he's training with Buddy, he's trying to bring the skill back into his fight, and he's not partying anymore. I don't think he can box to Mayweather's calibre, but he's definitely not a bum. People watch Gatti because they like him, as a character. Mayweather is never going to have that if he stays on the same track.

What's this about Mayweather bad mouthing Hopkins? If he actually did that, I'd like him even less as a person.

boxernyc
03-30-2005, 07:00 PM
My question is why should Mayweather make a fight harder than it has to be?

He doesn't have to and shouldn't. But the reason he catches a lot of flak (sp) is for his style. I appreciate and watch Mayweather for his boxing skill. But I don't get too excited. Same with Chris Byrd, Winky and Hopkins. I do for a Gatti, Morales, Pacquiao, Barrera, Tito (others too) fight. He shouldn't make a fight harder than he has to. But his business is to make money and win. If it were just about wins or skill he would be the number two draw in boxing after Hopkins. He complains about his $2 million a fight contract with HBO (not positive on the amount) and then proceeds to fight Henry Bruseles'. He has to realize that his style and his choice of opposition are the reasons he is not being paid what he thinks he deserves. That and as was said in Pulp Fiction, "This business is filled to the brim with unrealistic mofo's."

dempseyfan
03-30-2005, 07:02 PM
What makes you think this?

Shaolin Bushido
03-30-2005, 07:07 PM
we all know that PBF loves to talk ****...he couldnt ko corely but he will drop on of the hardest chin fighter out?,come on...ward(a strong ass hitter)couldnt drop gatti until the 9th round....PBF need to get KTFO or KD once so he can shut up,what a day it will be if gatti ko's PBF(which is not impossible,infact its very likely)...if this fight goes into the 8-9th round and gatti knows he is losing,he will bring war to PBF and Floyd will...WILL run like a *****...i just hope gatti catches him on the ropes :boxing:Gatti won't be there for the final bell. scared? Seriously, I've seen him give ground but I haven't ever seen him scared. That's just wishin.

jack_the_rippuh
03-30-2005, 11:08 PM
Yeah, but Bruseles was just to show those people at Cotto's camp what would happen to Cotto if he decided to get in the ring with that animal (Mayweather)..

Shaolin Bushido
03-30-2005, 11:26 PM
Run from Gatti? Well, maybe when geysers of blood are spewing everywhere but that's understandable.

Kid Achilles
03-30-2005, 11:59 PM
A bum is someone who can't fight for **** and even lacks the fighting spirit that would seem a mandatory prerequisite in such a sport.

Ruiz isn't a bum, Fres Oquendo isn't a bum. Even McNeely and Butterbeans weren't bums. They did however, beat quite a few bums in their day.

Bums are guys with 7-32 records who are just around to pick up a few hundred dollars every other weekend. A true bum goes down at the first hard punch, not neccesarily out of cowardice but because he knows he's in there to make an up and comer look good and to pad their record. He makes a bit of extra cash to supplement his working class income, and doesn't get too banged up for his efforts.

Arturo Gatti is about as far from a bum as you can get.

Knicksman20
03-31-2005, 12:17 AM
Yeah, but Bruseles was just to show those people at Cotto's camp what would happen to Cotto if he decided to get in the ring with that animal (Mayweather)..


Exactly Jack. That's why Cotto's people don't want anything to do with Mayweather anytime soon.

NAB
03-31-2005, 01:27 AM
A bum is someone who can't fight for **** and even lacks the fighting spirit that would seem a mandatory prerequisite in such a sport.
Bums are guys with 7-32 records who are just around to pick up a few hundred dollars every other weekend.

Some of Hattons Opponents at the time he fought them:
Kid McAuley 8-48-3
David Thompson 7-20-3
Paul Salmon 4-12-0
Karl Taylor 14-36-3
Brian Coleman 17-72-7
Mark Ramsey 15-25-5
These are bums....!

FuryDragon
03-31-2005, 01:29 AM
Gatti is more hungry and by the looks of it more serious, I hope PBF had a good time partying w/ puff daddy. Gatti will win a unamious dec. if Gayweather doesnt get KO'd with that glass jaw of his.

That glass jaw, huh? That's why Mayweather has been KOed so much in his UNDEFEATED career right? Against powerful opponents such as Diego Corrales, Jose Luis Castillo, Jesus Chavez, and Angel Manfredy? Against a much larger DeMarcus "Chop Chop" Corley? Don't assume, because we all know what that does.

Deejay
03-31-2005, 01:55 AM
I think Gatti stands a chance but Floyd will probably win by UD. Then I want to see if Floyd will call out KT...if he does..then he's a champion...if not, then he's scared...and rightly so...cos KT will knock the stuffing outta him!!

Red_Menace
03-31-2005, 07:07 AM
Being exciting is not a deciding factor as to you being a bum. Reggie Witherspoon is a bum. He has over 200 losses, and I would consider him exciting. It is fun watching people beat him unconscious, like they do Arturo Gatti. Both "bums". A bum is someone who does not have the potential to be great. Like Arturo Gatti. He will never "shock the world". He is merely "an exciting throwback" "the ultimate blood and guts warrior"......that wont cut it. Not gifted. Not skilled. By no means.


I don't agree with that at all. For one thing, Gatti does have natural talent. He's a great puncher. He punches beautifully. It's his defense that's sucked in a lot of fights. The way you describe it, anyone outside the top10 of their division is a bum, which is wrong in so many ways. Gatti isn't anything like a fighter with 200 losses.

baard
03-31-2005, 09:01 AM
But he isn't a fighter with 200 wins either. He is a top contender, but no champ.

SonnyG8R
03-31-2005, 07:18 PM
He doesn't have to and shouldn't. But the reason he catches a lot of flak (sp) is for his style. I appreciate and watch Mayweather for his boxing skill. But I don't get too excited. Same with Chris Byrd, Winky and Hopkins. I do for a Gatti, Morales, Pacquiao, Barrera, Tito (others too) fight. He shouldn't make a fight harder than he has to. But his business is to make money and win. If it were just about wins or skill he would be the number two draw in boxing after Hopkins. He complains about his $2 million a fight contract with HBO (not positive on the amount) and then proceeds to fight Henry Bruseles'. He has to realize that his style and his choice of opposition are the reasons he is not being paid what he thinks he deserves. That and as was said in Pulp Fiction, "This business is filled to the brim with unrealistic mofo's."


Thanks for the karma.

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Moon
03-31-2005, 07:32 PM
I want to see Little Canuck Gatti beat the living **** out of May.

I won't see it though, 'cause May has got the goods.

USA4LIFE
03-31-2005, 09:38 PM
How can you PBF fans say that Gatti has no chance on winning, Julio had no chance to win except by KO by Meldrick Taylor, he lost every round and TKO'd Taylor with 5 sec left of the 12th round, Aaron Pryor had his first lost against Bobby Joe Young who hadn't spared in 6 weeks befor his fight with pryor and he Ko'd pryor in 7, every fighter has a chance to win, ofcourse Gatti can win all he has to do is land 1 flush punch on PBF and it's over. Like what Jermain Taylor sayd, PBF can't slip em all. Gatti by KO ALL THE WAY!!! no doubt he can win.

Shaolin Bushido
03-31-2005, 09:43 PM
How can you PBF fans say that Gatti has no chance on winning, Julio had no chance to win except by KO by Meldrick Taylor, he lost every round and TKO'd Taylor with 5 sec left of the 12th round, Aaron Pryor had his first lost against Bobby Joe Young who hadn't spared in 6 weeks befor his fight with pryor and he Ko'd pryor in 7, every fighter has a chance to win, ofcourse Gatti can win all he has to do is land 1 flush punch on PBF and it's over. Like what Jermain Taylor sayd, PBF can't slip em all. Gatti by KO ALL THE WAY!!! no doubt he can win.Of course, he has a chance. It's just small compared to most "champions" who defend their titles.

Bout, umm, 15 percent I'd say.

czars_salad
03-31-2005, 09:56 PM
you heard it here first, mayweather will run like a ***** for 12 rounds and try to get a ud, there is no way he has the balls to go for the kayo in fear of getting caught with something big, if he mixes it up ill be shocked. he is talking so much crap because he is scared
TWO THUMBS UP!!!!
i hope gatti will destroy mayweather's filthy mouth! :cool:

Alpha Male
03-31-2005, 10:10 PM
How can you PBF fans say that Gatti has no chance on winning, Julio had no chance to win except by KO by Meldrick Taylor, he lost every round and TKO'd Taylor with 5 sec left of the 12th round, Aaron Pryor had his first lost against Bobby Joe Young who hadn't spared in 6 weeks befor his fight with pryor and he Ko'd pryor in 7, every fighter has a chance to win, ofcourse Gatti can win all he has to do is land 1 flush punch on PBF and it's over. Like what Jermain Taylor sayd, PBF can't slip em all. Gatti by KO ALL THE WAY!!! no doubt he can win.


You make it seem like Gatti has one punch KO power. You give him way too much credit. Don't let your distaste for Mayweather cloud your judgement. Sure Gatti has a chance, but it's a very slim chance. Deep down in your heart you know that Gatti will lose. For example, you say all Gatti needs to do is land one punch and it's all over. So, in essence, you're implying that Gatti doesn't have the ability to outbox Mayweather. If you say it long enough, you might actually believe it.