Has there ever been skills shown like that [Archive]

Princemanspopa

10-30-2009, 01:59 PM

Who would you say had a better defense, Pazienza or Gatti?

Gatti had defense,he just didn't mix it very well with offense and considering the type of offensive fighter that he was,it led to him being noted as being very easy to hit.In the rare rounds that he was passive and didn't throw,he was fairly elusive.Gatti was a much better boxer than he ever was a brawler and had an underrated jab and lateral movement.

Sure. And against better opponents than a lightweight on steroids like Pazienza as well.

Do you have to discredit every fighter you discuss? You don't like Roy "The wimp" Jones,we get it.

mrboxer

10-30-2009, 02:00 PM

Has there ever in boxing history skills been shown like Roy Jones showed against Vinny Pazienza.

if yes - when?are you kidding,there have been many better than this one,there are to many to write,i would say of the top of my head there are probably over a thousand better and that is not including title fights:boxing:

blacklodge

10-30-2009, 05:40 PM

I don't think it does Jones justice to put a spotlight on the Pazienza fight. I'm critical of him, his quality of opposition, blah, blah, blah, but that fight was just stupid. I'm more critical of Jones to take such a worthless fight against a worthless opponent when he was in my view at the zenith of his abilities. It opened him up to criticism, and justified ones, and started the ball rolling on him falling out of favor with boxing fans.
This guy was insanely talented, and I would isolate his fights with Bryant Brannon or Reggie Johnson. Particularly Brannon. I know BB was overmatched and never really stood a chance, but I have rarely seen fighters do what Jones did in that fight. That performance was far better than against Pazienza, who he hurt with the first punch of the fight and could have finished at any moment but didn't. Boring dominance versus exciting dominace with Brannon. Pazienza was a joke.

Benncollinsaad

10-30-2009, 05:48 PM

Sure. And against better opponents than a lightweight on steroids like Pazienza as well.

I agree. Paz had no business fighting Roy. He could beat SMWs with less speed and less power than Roy, but he really had no chance against Roy.

Slimey Limey

10-30-2009, 08:31 PM

Sure. And against better opponents than a lightweight on steroids like Pazienza as well.

Since when have you gotten so cheeky ya little twat licker?

Sergio Martinez

10-30-2009, 08:32 PM

Sure. And against better opponents than a lightweight on steroids like Pazienza as well.

Were did you hear this?:bigeyes:

Junito-Rulez

10-30-2009, 08:33 PM

Mayweather VS Corrales was much more impressive.

MANGLER

10-30-2009, 08:38 PM

Many superior fighters have woefully outclassed opponents before. But a full 3 min rd without a punch landed? I think RJ is 1 of a kind on that.

Sergio Martinez

10-30-2009, 09:08 PM

Since when have you gotten so cheeky ya little twat licker?

Man, why the **** have you got a chip on ya shoulder for? All you ever want to do is cause trouble around here.

Stop being a little ***** and moaning because you're always getting owned on here because you talk utter horse ****.

Slimey Limey

10-30-2009, 10:14 PM

Man, why the **** have you got a chip on ya shoulder for? All you ever want to do is cause trouble around here.

Stop being a little ***** and moaning because you're always getting owned on here because you talk utter horse ****.

You couldn't adress me with your own account innit, GreatA? Take these alts to the thunderdome where I can systematically pwn them.

Sergio Martinez

10-30-2009, 10:53 PM

You couldn't adress me with your own account innit, GreatA? Take these alts to the thunderdome where I can systematically pwn them.

Great A.....:ugh:

mickey malone

10-31-2009, 04:25 AM

BennyST

10-31-2009, 05:46 AM

Maybe Im wrong, but didn't Paz win the 2nd round?

As for the original question.....Ali-Williams and Ali-Terrell were great shows of dominance against better opponents.

Yeah, he did. Got hammered the rest but actually landed some hard shots on Jones. Not only that but Jones was so much bigger in every way, that it doesn't really compare that much. He looked like a genuine big SMW against a guy that had come up from LW.

Still, he was insanely fast and sharp in that fight.

sonnyboyx2

10-31-2009, 05:57 AM

Whether Pazienza was on steroids or not, the thread poster has challenged us to name fights that showed a more skillful display than that showed by Jones against Paz.. I immediately SUGGESTED Mayweather's domination of Arturo Gatti, which SillyBoy instantly discarded & accused me of never watching Jones Paz..

You may have noticed that SillyBoy is now not responding to his own thread..
Maybe it's because I was one of a small minority to actually answer his question, or maybe he's realized that by quoting Roy's performance against a guy who moved up 5 weights with a broken neck, as the most SKILLFUL he's EVER seen, shows a considerable lack of experience..

I'll continue answering the question, by explaining that the ultimate displays of skill are illustrated when one A class fighter dominates his A class opponent ie

Leonard Duran
Jones Toney
Jones Hopkins
Mayweather Marquez
Ali Liston
Pacquiao DeLaHoya
Whitaker Nelson
Hamed Vazquez
Barrera Hamed

etc etc etc, and not when an A class fighter tee's off on an inferior opponent, which in turn makes me realize, that Mayweather Gatti wasn't the best suggestion, although without doubt, a better one than Jones Pazienza...

what a complete waste of time it was for me to start this thread, its now obvious that 99% of the posters on here have never seen the Jones vs Pazienza fight otherwise they could have correctly answered my topic question... instead all that has happened is a bunch of ****suckers saying " Gatti was better or Jones was crap" which i find F*****g amazing.... i asked has there ever been a fight where a fighter showed skills as great as what Roy Jones showed in his fight with Pazienza.. quite a simply question!

Jones threw 12 jabs in under 5 seconds, he jabbed then hooked off the jab.. he threw overhand lefts.. he KOd his opponent with 3 uppercuts....it was IMO an amazing display of skills and never in watching over 20.000+ fight films have i seen anything even close to it or any other fighter come close to having and displaying that kind of skill... for over 5rds it was a display of speed that even slow-motion cameras could not capture..and his opponent could not put a glove on him....

now how the hell did Maywether do better against Gatti? or how was any of the list of fights you have listed did any of those fighters show a skill level greater than Jones did in the Pazienza fight.... what a bunch of turkeys on here.

mickey malone

10-31-2009, 06:48 AM

Has there ever in boxing history skills been shown like Roy Jones showed against Vinny Pazienza.

if yes - when?
Now I can see why you're caked in red karma..

Your question clearly states, 'If yes - when' ?

I have answered your question, so stop being a rude little pig, and tell me why his small bag routine on Pazienza, showed more skill than his punishing of fellow world champions, James Toney and Bernard Hopkins???
Your thread is not a waste of time, just because us '****suckers' havn't gushed orgasmicly in agreement with your ridiculous claim..
There is a fundumental difference in boxing SKILL, as opposed to beating up a smaller opponent, (who is not noted for his defense) with every quick combo punch in the book..
In my book, that's just called, 'showing off' while under very little pressure..
Basically, you should have just said 'HANDSPEED' instead of 'SKILL', then all the '****suckers' would have agreed with you..
If you'd ever fought in a boxing ring, you'd know exactly what I'm on about...

BennyST

10-31-2009, 07:12 AM

what a complete waste of time it was for me to start this thread, its now obvious that 99% of the posters on here have never seen the Jones vs Pazienza fight otherwise they could have correctly answered my topic question...

It seems to me like you didn't want anyone to answer your question but to simply agree with you in stating that Jones/Pax was the greatest thing since sliced bread. Everyone here has answered your question but because you don't agree, and the only reason you made this thread was in the hope of everyone agreeing with you, you insult everyone?

People have named other fights in which they believe that more skill was shown. One reason was that if a great fighter beats another great fighter easily that is showing more skill than a huge guy in his prime beating up on a little guy out of his prime and in way over his head. Oh yeah, and Pazienza did lay some glove on Jones. That's why he won the second round.

Don't get anyone wrong though mate. I pretty sure everyone here would agree that Jones was amazing that night. But, is it showing more skill by coming in and dancing around and being flashy or is there more skill in coming in and knocking out a smaller, out of his league fighter in thirty seconds? :dunno:

People here though are giving their opinions on the matter, which you asked for, and just because they don't agree with you doesn't mean they are wrong and doesn't mean you should come in and insult them. If you just want people to nod and say "Yeah, you right bother! Jones was the best" go talk to yourself in a mirror.

If you don't want a discussion and other opinions that are different from yours, don't come into a boxing discussion forum and ask a question! Otherwise you will get answers that might be different and not what you wanted to hear.

BennyST

10-31-2009, 07:23 AM

See, you might be equating flash with skill. Jones showed lots of skill and lots of flash. But, some people might have the opinion that just blasting through an opponent without any fuss and flash whatsoever is being even more skillful than leaping around, throwing seven hooks in a row against a guy that is not going to answer back and showing off. You know?

Someone might be of the opinion that Jones taking seven rounds to KO a guy like Glen Kelly, even with a behind the back KO punch, wasn't as good a show as Briggs who came in and absolutely laid waste to the some guy in only a few rounds. The difference being that Jones played to the crowd and pulled out a few tricks whereas Briggs came in and just beat the **** out of him without any fuss and bother at all, and no tricks.

They're just different ways of looking at it. Nobodies right and nobodies wrong in these discussions and just because someone doesn't think Jones showed more skill than Mayweather against Corrales or Calzaghe against Lacy or Leonard against Duran (P4P number 2 against the number 1 guy) or Duran against Moore. You dig?

That's a good one. Duran vs Moore. Old, little guy that was considered washed up and done vs a guy that was much bigger, younger, faster and stronger and considered more skillful at that stage in their careers gets hammered and taken apart piece by piece even though he was a huge favourite to beat the fat old guy easily. Does he show more skill than Jones? I don't know? Some might disagree and some might agree.

sonnyboyx2

10-31-2009, 07:28 AM

It seems to me like you didn't want anyone to answer your question but to simply agree with you in stating that Jones/Pax was the greatest thing since sliced bread. Everyone here has answered your question but because you don't agree, and the only reason you made this thread was in the hope of everyone agreeing with you, you insult everyone?

People have named other fights in which they believe that more skill was shown. One reason was that if a great fighter beats another great fighter easily that is showing more skill than a huge guy in his prime beating up on a little guy out of his prime and in way over his head. Oh yeah, and Pazienza did lay some glove on Jones. That's why he won the second round.

Don't get anyone wrong though mate. I pretty sure everyone here would agree that Jones was amazing that night. But, is it showing more skill by coming in and dancing around and being flashy or is there more skill in coming in and knocking out a smaller, out of his league fighter in thirty seconds? :dunno:

People here though are giving their opinions on the matter, which you asked for, and just because they don't agree with you doesn't mean they are wrong and doesn't mean you should come in and insult them. If you just want people to nod and say "Yeah, you right bother! Jones was the best" go talk to yourself in a mirror.

If you don't want a discussion and other opinions that are different from yours, don't come into a boxing discussion forum and ask a question! Otherwise you will get answers that might be different and not what you wanted to hear.

no i dont want others to agree and just nod.. i asked has there ever been skills shown like what Jones showed that night.. yet now his opponent is being questioned and called `shot` etc... it was quite a simply question and it has not been addressed or answered so why the f*ck did i bother asking it.. its obvious the answer is no otherwise other comparisons would have surfaced, this is absolutely nothing to do with wether i like Jones or dislike Paz, it was a simple question - and i answered the first response that Mayweather beating Gatti with 3 right-hands is nowhere near showing the skills that Jones showed against Pazienza, its that simple, but as always it has been twisted and contorted to the point where i now think "Why did i bother"... so **** it

mickey malone

10-31-2009, 07:40 AM

BennyST

10-31-2009, 07:46 AM

no i dont want others to agree and just nod.. i asked has there ever been skills shown like what Jones showed that night.. yet now his opponent is being questioned and called `shot` etc... it was quite a simply question and it has not been addressed or answered so why the f*ck did i bother asking it.. its obvious the answer is no otherwise other comparisons would have surfaced, this is absolutely nothing to do with wether i like Jones or dislike Paz, it was a simple question - and i answered the first response that Mayweather beating Gatti with 3 right-hands is nowhere near showing the skills that Jones showed against Pazienza, its that simple, but as always it has been twisted and contorted to the point where i now think "Why did i bother"... so **** it

Yeah man, I know what you mean, but I think you might be looking at it from a different perspective. It's harder to throw three right hands against a guy that can and will throw back vs throwing something similar against a guy that might not throw back. Comparisons did surface but you just didn't agree with them at all, which is what I meant earlier in that you obviously didn't want to hear anything different.

Not, I'm not necessarily agreeing that Mayweather/Gatti is better because I think both Paz and Gatti were severely over-matched and neither guy was ever going to win. Gatti was shot to **** and Paz was just in way over his head against a big, fast, prime, genuine SMW.

I think that there are still fights in which someone shows better skill though, because, like I said earlier, there are fights in which one guy looks really good against amazing opposition which is obviously much more difficult to do and I think that shows something very special.

But, Jones did show an amazing speed, and series of combination's in that fight against a guy that, while greatly over-matched, was still a good fighter and highly ranked.

sonnyboyx2

10-31-2009, 08:06 AM

Talk about self ownership!

what are you slavering about `mickey moron`?

mickey malone

10-31-2009, 08:36 AM

what are you slavering about `mickey moron`?
From he who accuses me of 'playground insults' ?

I'm slavering at your childish tantrum.. A public display of your inability to discuss your own thread!

Anyway, shouldn't you be at work? Real men do 7 days..

sonnyboyx2

10-31-2009, 08:52 AM

From he who accuses me of 'playground insults' ?

I'm slavering at your childish tantrum.. A public display of your inability to discuss your own thread!

Anyway, shouldn't you be at work? Real men do 7 days..

i discussed my thread yet had to come back and clarify it several times to a moron like you who was the 1st to respond, yet you did not address the question, you did as you always do`twisted and contorted it`into a completely different direction as you do with every topic you try to add your imature rantings

mickey malone

10-31-2009, 09:06 AM

not even close to Jones v Paz
So this is how you discuss a topic, is it?

sonnyboyx2

10-31-2009, 09:15 AM

So this is how you discuss a topic, is it?

no.. i can discuss the topic with no problems, its when idiots like you dive-in with a ridiculous answer like Mayweather vs Gatti ... and when i say,`its not even close` the skills shown in that fight to the skills Jones showed in the topic fight, you replied

"Who would you say had a better defense, Pazienza or Gatti?"

talk about a twist & distort at subject!

if it was someone else who had started this thread my response would have been something like this:
Pacquiao showed incredible skill against David Diaz but not to the level Jones showed on that night vs Paz..

not a Flocking idiotic reply of "Who would you say had a better defense, Pazienza or Gatti?"

mickey malone

10-31-2009, 09:45 AM

no.. i can discuss the topic with no problems, its when idiots like you dive-in with a ridiculous answer like Mayweather vs Gatti ... and when i say,`its not even close` the skills shown in that fight to the skills Jones showed in the topic fight, you replied

"Who would you say had a better defense, Pazienza or Gatti?"

talk about a twist & distort at subject!

if it was someone else who had started this thread my response would have been something like this:
Pacquiao showed incredible skill against David Diaz but not to the level Jones showed on that night vs Paz..

not a Flocking idiotic reply of "Who would you say had a better defense, Pazienza or Gatti?"
Hmmm, well your a tetchy little so & so, arn't you?

The reason I asked Gatti or Pazienza? is that neither are defensively sound and both are susceptable to making there opponent look good, and that, had you have been polite enough to answer, would have been the springboard for my argument, but instead, you embarrass yourself by calling me a moron..
This is because you're a sad little film collector, who has no real boxing experience whatsoever..

sonnyboyx2

10-31-2009, 10:03 AM

Hmmm, well your a tetchy little so & so, arn't you?

The reason I asked Gatti or Pazienza? is that neither are defensively sound and both are susceptable to making there opponent look good, and that, had you have been polite enough to answer, would have been the springboard for my argument, but instead, you embarrass yourself by calling me a moron..
This is because you're a sad little film collector, who has no real boxing experience whatsoever..

so you Mickey Moron know me personaly do you? you know my life history do you and you also know if i have ever boxed in my life or not do you?..

your above response to my question is your way of trying to get yourself out of the hole that you put yourself in earlier... yet its a pathetic try and you have failed miserably.... as for me boxing or not that is my business and nothing to do with you.. film collecting is a hobby of mine as is watching live` boxing shows from ringside, i have over 20.000 fight films and seen 100s of boxing shows, i have followed this sport for more than 40yrs so IMO i think that entitles me to know a little about this sport.. let me guess that you are now going to spew out some crap about yourself being a former champion boxer who went on to train many former world champions, when in fact the real truth about you is that you are an unemployed moron who lives with his old mum and does not have a friend in the world, you sad excuse for an *******

TheGreatA

10-31-2009, 10:37 AM

It's obvious to you that no one has ever seen Pazienza vs Jones but the fight is hardly rare is it? Roy Jones fought a former lightweight and looked great but calling it the best performance ever is a stretch. In fact I'm not sure if it's even Roy Jones's best performance.

Don't forget that Pazienza made Roger Mayweather and Hector Camacho look like old school boxing masters, at junior welterweight.

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TheGreatA

10-31-2009, 10:44 AM

sonnyboyx2

10-31-2009, 11:06 AM

Seriously you just get the feeling that Pazienza would have done a lot better against Jones had the fight been at 135/140 where Vinny was more of a threat physically. And he wasn't even that good at those weights, not on Jones's level.

At 168? It was a mismatch and it showed.

my question was nothing to do with wether it was a mismatch nor was i saying it was the greatest fight since `sliced bread` i asked has there ever been a display of boxing skills like what jones showed here... i also never said it was Jones best fight, but its by far his greatest display of skills

sonnyboyx2

10-31-2009, 11:10 AM

TheGreatA

10-31-2009, 11:29 AM

my question was nothing to do with wether it was a mismatch nor was i saying it was the greatest fight since `sliced bread` i asked has there ever been a display of boxing skills like what jones showed here... i also never said it was Jones best fight, but its by far his greatest display of skills

i would like to hear what your choice is for the best display of boxing skills so that i can compare it to the Roy Jones display...

In my opinion the opposition has to be taken into account when comparing performances because it's so much easier to look good and display your skills against a Vinny Pazienza who was coming down from 135 to 168.

Personally I like this performance more from Jones:

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Much better work off the ropes for example, body punching, patiently took a better super middleweight than Pazienza apart in just 3 rounds.

As for more impressive performances from fighters other than Jones, a couple of Nicolino Locche's and Pernell Whitaker's performances come to mind.

Locche vs Cervantes I & Fuji or Whitaker vs Haugen & Ramirez. That's just two fighters.

mickey malone

10-31-2009, 11:40 AM

so you Mickey Moron know me personaly do you? you know my life history do you and you also know if i have ever boxed in my life or not do you?..

your above response to my question is your way of trying to get yourself out of the hole that you put yourself in earlier... yet its a pathetic try and you have failed miserably.... as for me boxing or not that is my business and nothing to do with you.. film collecting is a hobby of mine as is watching live` boxing shows from ringside, i have over 20.000 fight films and seen 100s of boxing shows, i have followed this sport for more than 40yrs so IMO i think that entitles me to know a little about this sport.. let me guess that you are now going to spew out some crap about yourself being a former champion boxer who went on to train many former world champions, when in fact the real truth about you is that you are an unemployed moron who lives with his old mum and does not have a friend in the world, you sad excuse for an *******
Now try and get one poster to agree with you, go on just one!

And no, I'm not a legendary force in boxing, but I have a lot more experience than most people.. Enough experience to tie you up in knots anyway, which is what I've done ever since you decided to be Postman Pratt..

sonnyboyx2

10-31-2009, 11:42 AM

In my opinion the opposition has to be taken into account when comparing performances because it's so much easier to look good and display your skills against a Vinny Pazienza who was coming down from 135 to 168.

Personally I like this performance more from Jones:

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Much better work off the ropes for example, body punching, patiently took a much better super middleweight than Pazienza apart in just 3 rounds.

As for more impressive performances from fighters other than Jones, a couple of Nicolino Locche's and Pernell Whitaker's performances come to mind.

Locche vs Cervantes I & Fuji or Whitaker vs Haugen & Ramirez. That's just two fighters.

i have ALL those fights and you gotta be joking..

i ask a simple enough question and there is over 30 wiseguys on this forum who `diss` my question and twist or distort it... i will now close my case as it is clear that none have the gaul to admit it, that the Jones performance against Pazienza has never ever been seen in a boxing ring before... and this is proof because 30 so called anoraks could not come up with a more skilled performance than the one i chose

TheGreatA

10-31-2009, 11:47 AM

i have ALL those fights and you gotta be joking..

i ask a simple enough question and there is over 30 wiseguys on this forum who `diss` my question and twist or distort it... i will now close my case as it is clear that none have the gaul to admit it, that the Jones performance against Pazienza has never ever been seen in a boxing ring before... and this is proof because 30 so called anoraks could not come up with a more skilled performance than the one i chose

I think you're the one who has got to be joking here.

By the way you've never explained why you think Jones's performance against Pazienza is so much superior to everything else. Please display this great boxing knowledge that you keep bragging about.

Now Jones was talented but this is skill:

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sonnyboyx2

10-31-2009, 11:49 AM

Now try and get one poster to agree with you, go on just one!

And no, I'm not a legendary force in boxing, but I have a lot more experience than most people.. Enough experience to tie you up knots anyway, which is what I've done ever since you decided to be Postman Pratt..

get a poster to agree with me?... on what and why?

i have read a few of your posts and your knowledge of boxing is zero, you are a clown... hurry on upstairs your mummy is waiting

sonnyboyx2

10-31-2009, 11:53 AM

I think you're the one who has got to be joking here.

By the way you've never explained why you think Jones's performance against Pazienza is so much superior to everything else. Please display this great boxing knowledge that you keep bragging about.

Now Jones was talented but this is skill:

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boxing knowledge... i have posted a couple of trivia questions on this forum and no-one answered them, they was not to difficult... yes i have explained why Jones performance was superior to any other.. speed, jabs, uppercuts, hook-off-the-jab etc

mickey malone

10-31-2009, 11:58 AM

TheGreatA

10-31-2009, 11:58 AM

boxing knowledge... i have posted a couple of trivia questions on this forum and no-one answered them, they was not to difficult... yes i have explained why Jones performance was superior to any other.. speed, jabs, uppercuts, hook-off-the-jab etc

That's hardly skill though, is it? Roy Jones displayed those talents in every other performance of his, including the one I posted above.

Against the ropes he was hit by 5'6 Pazienza, he paid no attention to body punching, he was missing with quite a few power punches in the early rounds.

I've seen sharper performances from him. He could have put an end to Pazienza's troubles much sooner.

sonnyboyx2

10-31-2009, 12:20 PM

Here it is folks.... Vintage Postman Pratt.... Sillyboyx2

you are the stupidest clown on this or any other forum.. you are also a compulsive liar.. you claimed last week to own and run a bar in Thailand... yet spent 24/7 on this forum, you claim to be from Manchester then claim to be from the same district as Frank Bruno... your a `blaggard`you are a little fool who lives with his mummy and claims unemployment benefit, you sit in your room all day as you dont have a friend in the world only the members on here who you `kiss-ass`and imagine they are your buddies... you are no-one, you aint seen a live`boxing show in your life and you never will, you are a parasite.

`Mickey the Moron`

mickey malone

10-31-2009, 01:12 PM

you are the stupidest clown on this or any other forum.. you are also a compulsive liar.. you claimed last week to own and run a bar in Thailand... yet spent 24/7 on this forum, you claim to be from Manchester then claim to be from the same district as Frank Bruno... your a `blaggard`you are a little fool who lives with his mummy and claims unemployment benefit, you sit in your room all day as you dont have a friend in the world only the members on here who you `kiss-ass`and imagine they are your buddies... you are no-one, you aint seen a live`boxing show in your life and you never will, you are a parasite.

`Mickey the Moron`
Why are you crying?

Show evidence of me saying I come from Manchester?

My computer is switched on 24 hours a day and doubles up as a music system for the bar, which I own & is open 24 hours a day for business, so I just reply in passing.. I've invited quite a few posters over for a drink, but we don't suffer the 'Billy Bull****' type so it goes without saying, you'd either get slapped or barred..

My mother is a hard working Irish lady, who would have punched my lights out, if ever I sherked a days graft in my life, to which I owe her most of my success..
Through what I've accomplished, I can piss holes in yuppie suburban twats like you, from a considerable height while at my leisure.. I'm kinda being paid for doing it, if you get my drift, & I haven't got nappies to change every 5 minutes either..

sonnyboyx2

10-31-2009, 01:35 PM

Why are you crying?

Show evidence of me saying I come from Manchester?

My computer is switched on 24 hours a day and doubles up as a music system for the bar, which I own & is open 24 hours a day for business, so I just reply in passing.. I've invited quite a few posters over for a drink, but we don't suffer the 'Billy Bull****' type so it goes without saying, you'd either get slapped or barred..

My mother is a hard working Irish lady, who would have punched my lights out, if ever I sherked a days graft in my life, to which I owe her most of my success..
Through what I've accomplished, I can piss holes in yuppie suburban twats like you, from a considerable height while at my leisure.. I'm kinda being paid for doing it, if you get my drift, & I haven't got nappies to change every 5 minutes either..

ha ha haaaaa your a Blaggard`Mickey Moron.. you post your comments while passing.. pull the other one!

i hit the nail on the head when i said you still live with your mother and are unemployed sitting in your room all day everyday which is why your on here 24/7.. Thailand dont make me laugh the nearest youv`e been to Thailand is getting a carry-out from your local chinese take-away when your unemployement cheque arrives... your PC double up as a music system for the bar... F*****G Howler you should change your handle from `Mickey Moron to `Walter Mitty`...

its 30yrs since i changed a nappie

mickey malone

10-31-2009, 01:44 PM

ha ha haaaaa your a Blaggard`Mickey Moron.. you post your comments while passing.. pull the other one!

i hit the nail on the head when i said you still live with your mother and are unemployed sitting in your room all day everyday which is why your on here 24/7.. Thailand dont make me laugh the nearest youv`e been to Thailand is getting a carry-out from your local chinese take-away when your unemployement cheque arrives... your PC double up as a music system for the bar... F*****G Howler you should change your handle from `Mickey Moron to `Walter Mitty`...

its 30yrs since i changed a nappie
No, I was referring to you being an incontinent midwife lol

You're so easy to set up, it's untrue lol

sonnyboyx2

10-31-2009, 02:25 PM

No, I was referring to you being an incontinent midwife lol

You're so easy to set up, it's untrue lol

There cannot be many wanting served in your bar over in Thailand or do you have self-service :rofl:

mickey malone

10-31-2009, 03:19 PM

There cannot be many wanting served in your bar over in Thailand or do you have self-service :rofl:
As in you serving yourself off over Jones, in the toilet more like..

sonnyboyx2

10-31-2009, 03:51 PM

As in you serving yourself off over Jones, in the toilet more like..

Mickey Moron`i just cannot stop laughing about your Bar in Thailand blag ......you have made 2500 posts on this forum since April :thinking: yet claim to be running a bar and your PC doubles as a juke box and you just post your 2500 comments as you are walking past the PC/juke box with a tray of beers on your head :wtf:

what a moron mickey.. your a little fraud

mickey malone

10-31-2009, 04:25 PM

Mickey Moron`i just cannot stop laughing about your Bar in Thailand blag ......you have made 2500 posts on this forum since April :thinking: yet claim to be running a bar and your PC doubles as a juke box and you just post your 2500 comments as you are walking past the PC/juke box with a tray of beers on your head :wtf:

what a moron mickey.. your a little fraud
No sillybox, I just sit here in the sun and take the piss out of you, while I choose my own music at the same time.. At the moment I'm playing 'Nowhere man' by the Beetles, quite appropriate really, as it reminds me of you.. This is all, of course while my attractive staff pander to my every need.. You can only dream of my lifestyle sillyboy

With all these fights you've seen live, I'd imagine you've been so pissed, that you've had to buy the DVD imediately afterwards.. Notably, the typical British boxing fan, who only just about see's it from the outside of a ring..

I'm still waiting for your evidence that I come from Manchester, another one of your blatant lies.. I think it may be time to do a thread on who's the no1 bull****er around here?..... Frank Bruno at 195lbs attending the funeral of one of your drug dealing mates and so on... Oh don't tempt me.. I'll ****in humilliate you!

sonnyboyx2

10-31-2009, 04:28 PM

mickey malone

10-31-2009, 04:36 PM

please go ahead... try it fraud
Best you do that then.. And don't forget, the post(s) on this forum, where I say that I'm from Manchester please.. Chop chop, if you don't mind, i've got an insect bite to scratch..

sonnyboyx2

10-31-2009, 04:49 PM

No sillybox, I just sit here in the sun and take the piss out of you, while I choose my own music at the same time.. At the moment I'm playing 'Nowhere man' by the Beetles, quite appropriate really, as it reminds me of you.. This is all, of course while my attractive staff pander to my every need.. You can only dream of my lifestyle sillyboy

With all these fights you've seen live, I'd imagine you've been so pissed, that you've had to buy the DVD imediately afterwards.. Notably, the typical British boxing fan, who only just about see's it from the outside of a ring..

I'm still waiting for your evidence that I come from Manchester, another one of your blatant lies.. I think it may be time to do a thread on who's the no1 bull****er around here?..... Frank Bruno at 195lbs attending the funeral of one of your drug dealing mates and so on... Oh don't tempt me.. I'll ****in humilliate you!

the only attractive staff you have is your ol`mummy who brings you a cup of tea and a choclate digestive up to your bedroom while you sit on your hire purchase PC while you roll off your 400 per month posts on this site alone... yet you expect me to believe your bulls**t that your over in Thailand running a bar full of chicks :rofl: your hilarious Moron you really are... now nothing you ever say can be taken seriously because i have proved you to be a fraud... it must be an "Open-Air" Bar with the sun shining down on you while you are posting all your posts on this site and at the same time playing tunes for all your customers on your PC/Juke Box :rofl:.. bet all your customers `chip-in` with their little tit-bit comments about boxing for you do they :rofl: whats your bar called : Dempsey`s or Rocky`s :rofl:

sonnyboyx2

10-31-2009, 04:51 PM

Best you do that then.. And don't forget, the post(s) on this forum, where I say that I'm from Manchester please.. Chop chop, if you don't mind, i've got an insect bite to scratch..

you removed your Manchester comment from your Gary Stretch thread... so come on Moron, call my bluff on the Bruno at the local funeral quote

sonnyboyx2

10-31-2009, 04:57 PM

mickey malone

10-31-2009, 05:13 PM

Mickey Moron... its 03.54 sunday morning in Thailand and you have been on this forum for the last 12hrs or more.. that would mean all saturday night in your Thai Bar you have spent it on here talking to me ... you are a fraud Moron
This is the busiest time! All my mates can laugh at you to, and what's funnier, is you've spent ya hard earned Saturday afternoon off, telling lies to me!

Now come on! Where's the evidence to support the lies you were telling earLIAR???

Either support these fantasys, or forever hold your peace....

sonnyboyx2

11-01-2009, 04:38 AM

This is the busiest time! All my mates can laugh at you to, and what's funnier, is you've spent ya hard earned Saturday afternoon off, telling lies to me!

Now come on! Where's the evidence to support the lies you were telling earLIAR???

Either support these fantasys, or forever hold your peace....

your only mate is your old mummy... Thailand`dont make me laugh.. you are a fraud and ive proved it..

i dont tell lies Moron, i said Frank Bruno was in my area at the funeral of a local drug dealer.

http://www.timesandstar.co.uk/news/other/frank_bruno_at_workington_funeral_1_347604?referre rPath=home/search_results_page_2_1681

mickey malone

11-01-2009, 04:55 AM

your only mate is your old mummy... Thailand`dont make me laugh.. you are a fraud and ive proved it..

i dont tell lies Moron, i said Frank Bruno was in my area at the funeral of a local drug dealer.

http://www.timesandstar.co.uk/news/other/frank_bruno_at_workington_funeral_1_347604?referre rPath=home/search_results_page_2_1681
I hope everyone looks at this link, because you said that Frank was 195lbs, Grey, and heavilly into dope..

You really are a lying cunt, arn't you?????

Now, where is the evidence of me being a fraud then? liar

Do you now have a link of me wearing a flat cap, while exercising my ferretts in Manchester?

sonnyboyx2

11-01-2009, 05:23 AM

I hope everyone looks at this link, because you said that Frank was 195lbs, Grey, and heavilly into dope..

You really are a lying cunt, arn't you?????

Now, where is the evidence of me being a fraud then? liar

Do you now have a link of me wearing a flat cap, while exercising my ferretts in Manchester?

you have been exposed as a fraud Moron and you know it.. you are now grasping at anything to try to discredit me but its not gonna work.... The bar in Thailand is a fabrication of your own vivid imagination.. it is 09.14 GMT and you have just got out of bed in your mummys back room and plonked yourself back on your PC.. all the garbage about being in a bar in Thailand and your PC/juke Box for the customers is a load of bull... as is your post on boxer Gary Stretch being beaten up in this imaginary bar that you own in Thailand... i noticed no-one fell for your lies and there was no comments on the Gary Stretch thread, thats because you invented that sh*t up, how can you ever again be taken seriously.. you are a fraud Mickey Moron.... i called your bluff and you fell for it with the Bruno funeral, you did not expect me to produce hard evidence.. now you are trying to say he looks in great health and is not how i stated he looked :loser: you are a fraud Moron...i close my case!

mickey malone

11-01-2009, 06:23 AM

you have been exposed as a fraud Moron and you know it.. you are now grasping at anything to try to discredit me but its not gonna work.... The bar in Thailand is a fabrication of your own vivid imagination.. it is 09.14 GMT and you have just got out of bed in your mummys back room and plonked yourself back on your PC.. all the garbage about being in a bar in Thailand and your PC/juke Box for the customers is a load of bull... as is your post on boxer Gary Stretch being beaten up in this imaginary bar that you own in Thailand... i noticed no-one fell for your lies and there was no comments on the Gary Stretch thread, thats because you invented that sh*t up, how can you ever again be taken seriously.. you are a fraud Mickey Moron.... i called your bluff and you fell for it with the Bruno funeral, you did not expect me to produce hard evidence.. now you are trying to say he looks in great health and is not how i stated he looked :loser: you are a fraud Moron...i close my case!
Frank looks just the same as when he was fighting you lying cunt..
You discredited the man by lying about him, & saying he was 195 & heavilly into dope.. Not even the write up from the newspaper clip even remotely supports your lies The only element of truth is that Frank went to a funeral..

And the reason there was only one respondant to my post on Gary Stretch, is because no one apart from me is in Thailand, where it happened, not to mention most of NSB wouldn't know who the fvck he was..

So come on.. I've proved your a liar.. Now prove that I'm a fraud???