PACMAN STILL THE WINNER & THE BEST FIGHTER TELL ME WHY. IT'S EASY BECAUSE HE WAS WEAK AT THAT TIME DUE TO AMOUNT OF BLOOD TAKEN OUT FROM HIM. IT WAS SO CLEAR CLINICALLY PROVEN & WE CAN'T DENY IT. ALL MUST KNOW THIS, THAT NO BOXER COULD EVER WITHSTAND SUCH AS WHAT PACMAN HAD EXPERIENCED BEFORE THE FIGHT, A MUST-NOT MEDICAL APPLICATION W/C BECAME A HINDRANCE TO HIS HEALTH THAT EVENTUALLY HAD EFFECTED HIS PERFORMANCE,HIS STAMINA,POWER, & ETC.. I VIEW THIS IN BOXING AS A VEXATION. :nono: :nono: :nono:

you know i am actully pissed at myself for clicking on this thread...~f**k~...dammit...goes into another thread

PACMAN STILL THE WINNER & THE BEST FIGHTER TELL ME WHY. IT'S EASY BECAUSE HE WAS WEAK AT THAT TIME DUE TO AMOUNT OF BLOOD TAKEN OUT FROM HIM. IT WAS SO CLEAR CLINICALLY PROVEN & WE CAN'T DENY IT. ALL MUST KNOW THIS, THAT NO BOXER COULD EVER WITHSTAND SUCH AS WHAT PACMAN HAD EXPERIENCED BEFORE THE FIGHT, A MUST-NOT MEDICAL APPLICATION W/C BECAME A HINDRANCE TO HIS HEALTH THAT EVENTUALLY HAD EFFECTED HIS PERFORMANCE,HIS STAMINA,POWER, & ETC.. I VIEW THIS IN BOXING AS A VEXATION. :nono: :nono: :nono:

Both Pac and his trainer Freddie Roach dismissed this as an excuse before the fight. They said that Pac had no effects from the examination that was supposed to take place weeks before the fight but the Pac camp waited until the last minute to do it.

Quit dreaming man. Let's take the loss as it is.
Pac will be back, but let's not make any excuses here.
He simply lost to a better fighter that night.
Let's just hope for a Pac-Morales II , ok?

PACMAN STILL THE WINNER & THE BEST FIGHTER TELL ME WHY. IT'S EASY BECAUSE HE WAS WEAK AT THAT TIME DUE TO AMOUNT OF BLOOD TAKEN OUT FROM HIM. IT WAS SO CLEAR CLINICALLY PROVEN & WE CAN'T DENY IT. ALL MUST KNOW THIS, THAT NO BOXER COULD EVER WITHSTAND SUCH AS WHAT PACMAN HAD EXPERIENCED BEFORE THE FIGHT, A MUST-NOT MEDICAL APPLICATION W/C BECAME A HINDRANCE TO HIS HEALTH THAT EVENTUALLY HAD EFFECTED HIS PERFORMANCE,HIS STAMINA,POWER, & ETC.. I VIEW THIS IN BOXING AS A VEXATION. :nono: :nono: :nono:


WTF?? He lost to a better fighter. Another hugger to blemish pacfans!!

Both Pac and his trainer Freddie Roach dismissed this as an excuse before the fight. They said that Pac had no effects from the examination that was supposed to take place weeks before the fight but the Pac camp waited until the last minute to do it.
But his Philippine trainer disagreed.

............................

But his Philippine trainer disagreed.


this thread=ZEZ losing all the credibility his 47+ posts may have earned him.

PACMAN STILL THE WINNER & THE BEST FIGHTER TELL ME WHY. IT'S EASY BECAUSE HE WAS WEAK AT THAT TIME DUE TO AMOUNT OF BLOOD TAKEN OUT FROM HIM. IT WAS SO CLEAR CLINICALLY PROVEN & WE CAN'T DENY IT. ALL MUST KNOW THIS, THAT NO BOXER COULD EVER WITHSTAND SUCH AS WHAT PACMAN HAD EXPERIENCED BEFORE THE FIGHT, A MUST-NOT MEDICAL APPLICATION W/C BECAME A HINDRANCE TO HIS HEALTH THAT EVENTUALLY HAD EFFECTED HIS PERFORMANCE,HIS STAMINA,POWER, & ETC.. I VIEW THIS IN BOXING AS A VEXATION. :nono: :nono: :nono:
people like you give pac fans a bad name. morales was sharp and was the better fighter that night... give him his due.
AND YES I'M A PAC FAN!! :mad:

people like you give pac fans a bad name. morales was sharp and was the better fighter that night... give him his due.
AND YES I'M A PAC FAN!! :mad:
EGG, WHAT I WANNA GIVE PACMAN IS A SORT OF MORAL SUPPORT,& TO HIS FANS PERHAPS LIKE YOU,& UNDOUBTEDLY LIKE ME :) YOU GOT IT? SO LET'S START ALL OVER AGAIN THE PATRIOTIC WAY OF PHILIPPINE MORALE. :hail:

Man your off a little. Pac put up a hella of a fight. not enough though to win i think pacman was more mindblasted than he was physically hurt at the end of the fight he was probably thinkg....


Uhmmmmmmmmmm I HIT MORALES WITH MY LEFT UMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM I USE REYES GLOVES I KNOCK DOWN MORALES UMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM I WON THE FIGHT UMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.

people like you give pac fans a bad name. morales was sharp and was the better fighter that night... give him his due.
AND YES I'M A PAC FAN!! :mad:

Bwahahahahaa!!!! I like him dude. Let him handle all the nuthugging thing and you handle the serious hugging thing. Okay :D

OMG I was laughing my ass off at that opening statement on this topic! Good for a laugh. Not even worth arguing against.

I agree, lol, it was Pac's blood. He was feeling...

Hotblooded...check it and see...I've got a fever of a hundred and three...


But yeah, the only loss of blood Pac needed to be concerned about was that which he lost during the fight, at the hands of El Terrible. And I still like Pac just barely better than Morales.

Man your off a little. Pac put up a hella of a fight. not enough though to win i think pacman was more mindblasted than he was physically hurt at the end of the fight he was probably thinkg....


Uhmmmmmmmmmm I HIT MORALES WITH MY LEFT UMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM I USE REYES GLOVES I KNOCK DOWN MORALES UMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM I WON THE FIGHT UMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.

Let's not make fun of the way someone talks, many of our Mexican fighters don't do so good on interviews either.

Let's not make fun of the way someone talks, many of our Mexican fighters don't do so good on interviews either.
i guess they dont know how to speak english?

Man your off a little. Pac put up a hella of a fight. not enough though to win i think pacman was more mindblasted than he was physically hurt at the end of the fight he was probably thinkg....


Uhmmmmmmmmmm I HIT MORALES WITH MY LEFT UMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM I USE REYES GLOVES I KNOCK DOWN MORALES UMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM I WON THE FIGHT UMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.
REMEMMMMMBER THE DEFEAT OF BARERRA TO PACMAN.PACMAN GOT HIM PINNING HIM DOWN & THEN PUNISHING HIM TIL A TOWEL SPAWNED UP IN THE AIR,A SIGN OF SURRENDER. THEN BARERRA MOCKED EL TERIBLE FOR LOSING THAT FIGHT. DO YOU THINK PACMAN CAN'T BEAT EL TERRIBLE THE SAME WAY? HEY DUDE, MEDICALLY PROVEN THAT PACMAN WAS NOT IN GOOD HEALTH THAT TIME & THAT THE SCHEDULE MUST EXTEND TO GIVE PACMAN A WIDE SPACE OF TIME TO REST BEFORE THE FIGHT THINK DEEPLY ABOUT THIS.

at least he tried to speak english not like other foreign boxers 0_o... but give it a break zez... pac lost to a better man that night... could of been a draw but no way pac won...

REMEMMMMMBER THE DEFEAT OF BARERRA TO PACMAN.PACMAN GOT HIM PINNING HIM DOWN & THEN PUNISHING HIM TIL A TOWEL SPAWNED UP IN THE AIR,A SIGN OF SURRENDER. THEN BARERRA MOCKED EL TERIBLE FOR LOSING THAT FIGHT. DO YOU THINK PACMAN CAN'T BEAT EL TERRIBLE THE SAME WAY? HEY DUDE, MEDICALLY PROVEN THAT PACMAN WAS NOT IN GOOD HEALTH THAT TIME & THAT THE SCHEDULE MUST EXTEND TO GIVE PACMAN A WIDE SPACE OF TIME TO REST BEFORE THE FIGHT THINK DEEPLY ABOUT THIS.
we will see the rematch what happened...
but in the last fight march 19 EM much luckier fighter that night..

at least he tried to speak english not like other foreign boxers 0_o... but give it a break zez... pac lost to a better man that night... could of been a draw but no way pac won...
IN MY OPINION, I GOT THE POINT THAT PACMAN HAS THE GREAT CHANCE OF KNOCKING OUT MORALES ,IT'S BECAUSE BARERRA WON THE 3RD CHAPTER OF THEIR FIGHT.AM I RIGHT ? THEREFORE LET'S WAIT AGAIN FOR THE 2nd el terrible VS PACMAN.

IN MY OPINION, I GOT THE POINT THAT PACMAN HAS THE GREAT CHANCE OF KNOCKING OUT MORALES ,IT'S BECAUSE BARERRA WON THE 3RD CHAPTER OF THEIR FIGHT.AM I RIGHT ?
The main point their bro, is EM is not prepared when he faced Barrera than what he prepared to PAC... look at the wheigh in pics you will see that EM has 6 Packs in his abs, compared to his wheigh in to Barrera fight...
its means that pac is his toughest oponents...

we will see the rematch what happened...
but in the last fight march 19 EM much luckier fighter that night..
OK I AGREE THAT, FRIEND. DO U AGREE ALSO TO MY VIEW POINT?

i don't have any problem with this man, set him free (that's what pontious pilate said to jesus christ). so let him (ZEZ) do what he pleases. and in my opinion, let him do his and even if he's off key, just let him be. he's a pac fan, allright,and that's why i like him.

OK I AGREE THAT, FRIEND. DO U AGREE ALSO TO MY VIEW POINT?
yes i agreee to your point of view,coz of that headbutt the reason why he was kuckier that night... And Pac says better luck next time... :p

The main point their bro, is EM is not prepared when he faced Barrera than what he prepared to PAC... look at the wheigh in pics you will see that EM has 6 Packs in his abs, compared to his wheigh in to Barrera fight...
its means that pac is his toughest oponents...
SO EXCUSES MATTER A LOT BRO, U DONT HAV TO FIGHT IF YOU'RE NOT PREPARED.

SO EXCUSES MATTER A LOT BRO, U DONT HAV TO FIGHT IF YOU'RE NOT PREPARED.
hmmmmnnn i think so.... :D

i don't have any problem with this man, set him free (that's what pontious pilate said to jesus christ). so let him (ZEZ) do what he pleases. and in my opinion, let him do his and even if he's off key, just let him be. he's a pac fan, allright,and that's why i like him.
HEALTH CONDITION OF A CERTAIN FIGHTER COUNTS MOST.BOTH MENTAL & PHYSICAL.:) BY D WAY,I'M NOT ONLY A PACMAN'S FAN BUT I DO IDOLIZE ALSO OTHER BOXER SUCH AS HOPKIS,OSCAR DH, & ETC..& EVEN EL TERRIBLE IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE BOXERS.

this thread=ZEZ losing all the credibility his 47+ posts may have earned him.
A rematch for this ,huh the better

yes i agreee to your point of view,coz of that headbutt the reason why he was kuckier that night... And Pac says better luck next time... :p
IS THAT SO,ONLY A HEADBUTT ? LETS REVIEW HIS PRE-FIGHT.

hmmmmnnn i think so.... :D
YAH....NOW THEY GOT IT.

people like you give pac fans a bad name. morales was sharp and was the better fighter that night... give him his due.
AND YES I'M A PAC FAN!! :mad:
ITS BECAUSE YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M STATING IN HERE.

people like you give pac fans a bad name. morales was sharp and was the better fighter that night... give him his due.
AND YES I'M A PAC FAN!! :mad:
CLEARLY YOU DONT KNOW THE HISTORY OF THEIR FIGHT.ALL YOU HAVE ARE THOSE THINGS AS SUGAR COATED VIEW POINT.SAD TO SAY....:)

Quit dreaming man. Let's take the loss as it is.
Pac will be back, but let's not make any excuses here.
He simply lost to a better fighter that night.
Let's just hope for a Pac-Morales II , ok?


Dude I totally respoect you man. It's humility and class like that , that makes me realize that Pac nuthuggers are much better than Tito nuthuggers.

SO EXCUSES MATTER A LOT BRO, U DONT HAV TO FIGHT IF YOU'RE NOT PREPARED.


Ahem...

EXCUSES ARE NEVER SEEN AS POSITIVE. YOU DO HAVE FIGHT IF YOU'RE NOT PREPARED. IF YOU NOT PREPARED, THAT YOUR FAULT. PAC HAD PLENTY OF TIME TO PREPARE SO IF HE WASN'T READY, THAT HIS OWN FAULT. HE GOT IN RING SO BY DOING SUCH THINGS HE SAYS HE PREPARED FOR WAR BUT HE LOSE. SOMEONE HAS LOSE SO IT JUST PAC THIS TIME.

And umm...you don't have to fight if you don't feel good? What is he? Sugar Ray Robinson?

at least he tried to speak english not like other foreign boxers 0_o... but give it a break zez... pac lost to a better man that night... could of been a draw but no way pac won...
What is the point in trying to speak a language when someone is putting words in your mouth and dont really know what the f your talking about.

LMAO I'm still enjoying the Adam West avatar while yall argue

Yesterday i went to the hospital and i talked to manny, He was still in pain after the beating he received from Erik. Hes looking forward to assassinating more Mexicans in the ring like his last 2 fights, Manny is only getting better since the Barrera fight. Way to go , Mexican Assassin

we will see the rematch what happened...
but in the last fight march 19 EM much luckier fighter that night..


oh, now he was lucky? give this **** a break. this thread should be deleted. what a joke.

PACMAN STILL THE WINNER & THE BEST FIGHTER TELL ME WHY. IT'S EASY BECAUSE HE WAS WEAK AT THAT TIME DUE TO AMOUNT OF BLOOD TAKEN OUT FROM HIM. IT WAS SO CLEAR CLINICALLY PROVEN & WE CAN'T DENY IT. ALL MUST KNOW THIS, THAT NO BOXER COULD EVER WITHSTAND SUCH AS WHAT PACMAN HAD EXPERIENCED BEFORE THE FIGHT, A MUST-NOT MEDICAL APPLICATION W/C BECAME A HINDRANCE TO HIS HEALTH THAT EVENTUALLY HAD EFFECTED HIS PERFORMANCE,HIS STAMINA,POWER, & ETC.. I VIEW THIS IN BOXING AS A VEXATION. :nono: :nono: :nono:


Get over it man . . . our Pac loss. There are so many factor involved that contributed to that ressult but don't make a goddam excuse . . . Eric won because he is the better man that night. He deserve credit and respect for what he has accomplished . . . a well earned victory.

COngratulations to Erik Morales for a good fight against Pac. He won He deserves it. NO EXCUSES... NO REASONS..

ITS BECAUSE YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M STATING IN HERE.
Uhhhh... yes I do. You were trying to say that the bloodworks done to him too close to the fight affected his ability to box. SO TELL ME, DID I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT??? Good. I'm not going to reply to you anymore about this because I get the feeling it's useless.

oh, now he was lucky? give this **** a break. this thread should be deleted. what a joke.
why dont you deleted this thread if this is a joke :(

Much as it hurts to admit it, but March 19 wasn't our night .......

This is an example of ZEZ

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nut hugging

Uhhhh... yes I do. You were trying to say that the bloodworks done to him too close to the fight affected his ability to box. SO TELL ME, DID I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT??? Good. I'm not going to reply to you anymore about this because I get the feeling it's useless.

O come on dude, don't be a killjoy now. You know that you are usefull being useless. Reply dude. I like it when you feel hopeless arguing against a nuthugger. What more, a pacnuthugger? How can you ever get better than that?

Hey ZEZ!!!! keep it cummin' man. Concentrate specially on itlog!!! :D

O come on dude, don't be a killjoy now. You know that you are usefull being useless. Reply dude. I like it when you feel hopeless arguing against a nuthugger. What more, a pacnuthugger? How can you ever get better than that?

Hey ZEZ!!!! keep it cummin' man. Concentrate specially on itlog!!! :D
kadyo, you bastard.... are you enjoying yourself? :fing26: :D
hhhmmmmmm.....

kadyo, you bastard.... are you enjoying yourself? :fing26: :D
hhhmmmmmm.....
hehehe lolz :fing26:

O come on dude, don't be a killjoy now. You know that you are usefull being useless. Reply dude. I like it when you feel hopeless arguing against a nuthugger. What more, a pacnuthugger? How can you ever get better than that?

Hey ZEZ!!!! keep it cummin' man. Concentrate specially on itlog!!! :D
hehehehe USefull being useless??? hehehe that was funnay man... cool

kadyo, you bastard.... are you enjoying yourself? :fing26: :D
hhhmmmmmm.....
hehehe i guess kadyo is more like ZEZ than you :D

i don't have any problem with this man, set him free (that's what pontious pilate said to jesus christ). so let him (ZEZ) do what he pleases. and in my opinion, let him do his and even if he's off key, just let him be. he's a pac fan, allright,and that's why i like him.



the only reason that u agree with him (ZEZ) is because you probably think pac will ko morales in a rematch right? NO... your wrong if anyones gonna get ko is gonna be pac, morales is just to skillfull for pac. yall 2 must admit pac LOST and get on with yalls life man. this excuses are startin to get old.

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people like you give pac fans a bad name. morales was sharp and was the better fighter that night... give him his due.
AND YES I'M A PAC FAN!! :mad:
I DONT THINK SO:)

PACMAN STILL THE WINNER & THE BEST FIGHTER TELL ME WHY. IT'S EASY BECAUSE HE WAS WEAK AT THAT TIME DUE TO AMOUNT OF BLOOD TAKEN OUT FROM HIM. IT WAS SO CLEAR CLINICALLY PROVEN & WE CAN'T DENY IT. ALL MUST KNOW THIS, THAT NO BOXER COULD EVER WITHSTAND SUCH AS WHAT PACMAN HAD EXPERIENCED BEFORE THE FIGHT, A MUST-NOT MEDICAL APPLICATION W/C BECAME A HINDRANCE TO HIS HEALTH THAT EVENTUALLY HAD EFFECTED HIS PERFORMANCE,HIS STAMINA,POWER, & ETC.. I VIEW THIS IN BOXING AS A VEXATION. :nono: :nono: :nono:
WTF are you talking about, just admit the truth that Pac lost to the better fighter that night...period! As fot the supposed loss of energy due to the cut, why dont you look at the fight just before that one(Arce-vs-Hussein) Arce had a cut just as bad if not worse that Pacman and he came back to knock Hussein out. So quit *****in! :bottle:

But his Philippine trainer disagreed.

man could you just stop this ****in thing. pacman lost to el terrible, that's it! no excuses this time for pac. just w8 for the rematch, ok.

man could you just stop this ****in thing. pacman lost to el terrible, that's it! no excuses this time for pac. just w8 for the rematch, ok.
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WTF are you talking about, just admit the truth that Pac lost to the better fighter that night...period! As fot the supposed loss of energy due to the cut, why dont you look at the fight just before that one(Arce-vs-Hussein) Arce had a cut just as bad if not worse that Pacman and he came back to knock Hussein out. So quit *****in! :bottle:
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This is an example of ZEZ

http://www.oldehomestead.com/boyds/2002fall/Boyds_Gift_Shoppe_F02/651257-M.jpg

nut hugging
:) i'm cute :)

LMAO I'm still enjoying the Adam West avatar while yall argue
U GAY? ahahahaha!!!![B] jus jokin'

PACMAN STILL THE WINNER & THE BEST FIGHTER TELL ME WHY. IT'S EASY BECAUSE HE WAS WEAK AT THAT TIME DUE TO AMOUNT OF BLOOD TAKEN OUT FROM HIM. IT WAS SO CLEAR CLINICALLY PROVEN & WE CAN'T DENY IT. ALL MUST KNOW THIS, THAT NO BOXER COULD EVER WITHSTAND SUCH AS WHAT PACMAN HAD EXPERIENCED BEFORE THE FIGHT, A MUST-NOT MEDICAL APPLICATION W/C BECAME A HINDRANCE TO HIS HEALTH THAT EVENTUALLY HAD EFFECTED HIS PERFORMANCE,HIS STAMINA,POWER, & ETC.. I VIEW THIS IN BOXING AS A VEXATION. :nono: :nono: :nono:

I'll tell you why he was weak...because morales was raining so many blows on his sorry ass, he didn't know what the hell to do. Just give it up man, Manny was controlled and dominated by a simply more complete fighter. He showed he has a big heart though and is still a contender, but needs a lot more improvement to be on par with Morales.

I'll tell you why he was weak...because morales was raining so many blows on his sorry ass, he didn't know what the hell to do. Just give it up man, Manny was controlled and dominated by a simply more complete fighter. He showed he has a big heart though and is still a contender, but needs a lot more improvement to be on par with Morales.NO NEED FOR HIM TO PRACTICE MORE . WHY AM I TELLING YOU THIS WAY? IF YOU HAD JUST WITNESSED HIS PREFIGHT YOU WOULD PROBABLY SAY COMMON THINGS WHEREBY PACMAN INDEED AGREES WITH US.
THIS IS NO JOKE ,FRIEND.

This is the saddest thread a fan could ever make.

This is the saddest thread a fan could ever make.
Still trying to understand why people are responding to someone who makes no better sense than this guy, and who almost always uses all caps. That's enough for me to ignore the fella, if nothing else.

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That's ****ing rich, this **** is killing me lol

Quit dreaming man. Let's take the loss as it is.
Pac will be back, but let's not make any excuses here.
He simply lost to a better fighter that night.
Let's just hope for a Pac-Morales II , ok?

Thank you, thank you , thank you!!!! The voice of reason, and from a big Pac fan too...thats admirable! ;)

REMEMMMMMBER THE DEFEAT OF BARERRA TO PACMAN.PACMAN GOT HIM PINNING HIM DOWN & THEN PUNISHING HIM TIL A TOWEL SPAWNED UP IN THE AIR,A SIGN OF SURRENDER. THEN BARERRA MOCKED EL TERIBLE FOR LOSING THAT FIGHT. DO YOU THINK PACMAN CAN'T BEAT EL TERRIBLE THE SAME WAY? HEY DUDE, MEDICALLY PROVEN THAT PACMAN WAS NOT IN GOOD HEALTH THAT TIME & THAT THE SCHEDULE MUST EXTEND TO GIVE PACMAN A WIDE SPACE OF TIME TO REST BEFORE THE FIGHT THINK DEEPLY ABOUT THIS.

Sigh........so, since Pac beat Barrera, its a 'given' that he'd beat Morales?? STYLES MAKE FIGHTS, STYLES MAKE FIGHTS, STYLES MAKE FIGHTS!!!!!! Ever heard of that?

PACMAN STILL THE WINNER & THE BEST FIGHTER TELL ME WHY. IT'S EASY BECAUSE HE WAS WEAK AT THAT TIME DUE TO AMOUNT OF BLOOD TAKEN OUT FROM HIM. IT WAS SO CLEAR CLINICALLY PROVEN & WE CAN'T DENY IT. ALL MUST KNOW THIS, THAT NO BOXER COULD EVER WITHSTAND SUCH AS WHAT PACMAN HAD EXPERIENCED BEFORE THE FIGHT, A MUST-NOT MEDICAL APPLICATION W/C BECAME A HINDRANCE TO HIS HEALTH THAT EVENTUALLY HAD EFFECTED HIS PERFORMANCE,HIS STAMINA,POWER, & ETC.. I VIEW THIS IN BOXING AS A VEXATION. :nono: :nono: :nono:

Just how many gallons do you suppose were taken from Pac so as to significantly affect his performance that night?

Please, man, enough of this already. I'm a huge Pac fan just like yourself but these excuses are getting to be very pathetic!

This senseless rambling of yours is actually doing our hero's image more harm than good. Many posters here have come to dislike Manny not because they don't like him personally but precisely because of blind fanatics like you. :(

man, shut up, manny is a good fighter, he is tough, he has a lot of power, but he could easily be 1-2 against the mexican trio, he is lucky to be 1-1-1 ,,, the marquez fight could have easily been a loss..

yes i agreee to your point of view,coz of that headbutt the reason why he was kuckier that night... And Pac says better luck next time... :p

On one of the undercard fights, Jorge Arce got cut bad -- he had a deep gash over his nose and he didn't hesitate to keep fighting, even losing all that blood, he told the ref not to stop the fight. And Arce went on to win by TKO btw. Pacquiao by contrast, took a relatively long time with a far lesser cut to decide he wanted to keep going. Pacquiao's cut was minor compared to Arce's. So that's just another excuse by Pac fans in a long line of excuses you use to justify Pacquiao getting beat up by Morales.

And the bottom line ...

All you Pac fans and even the "pundits" who had Morales as the underdog, were expecting Pacquaio to beat Morales and look like he did when Pac beat an out of sorts Barrera. And when that didn't happen you start making all these excuses why Pacquiao was outgunned by Morales.

Pacquiao's corner kept telling him in the middle rounds to back Morales up. But instead, he was the one getting backed up by Morales. I've never seen Pacquiao backpedal as much as he did in that fight. He usually keeps going forward, but not in this fight.

I wanna see Pacquiao rematch Morales, Marquez or Barrera, so they can bring one-dimensional Pacquiao and his fans down to reality.

A hungry Barrera would pulverize Pac. Barrera looked like he was just going through the motions against a hungrier Pac. Juan Manuel Marquez is a far superior boxer and has more heart than Pac (it showed when he got up from his initial 3 knockdowns to put on a boxing clinic in the fight). And Morales, well he would just flat out beat up Pac AGAIN, if they rematched. It's coming. I can't wait for a Pac rematch with either one of those aforementioned 3.

But his Philippine trainer disagreed.

Are you Pacquiao's trainer?

On one of the undercard fights, Jorge Arce got cut bad -- he had a deep gash over his nose and he didn't hesitate to keep fighting, even losing all that blood, he told the ref not to stop the fight. And Arce went on to win by TKO btw. Pacquiao by contrast, took a relatively long time with a far lesser cut to decide he wanted to keep going. Pacquiao's cut was minor compared to Arce's. So that's just another excuse by Pac fans in a long line of excuses you use to justify Pacquiao getting beat up by Morales.

And the bottom line ...


Who gave you the idea that it took Pacquiao a longer time to decide if he wanted to continue or not?

Review that part again, and you will notice that a Filipino boxer simply could not understand a referee speaking in SPanish.

It doesn't take a moron not to understand a language simply foreign to you. The same would happen to you if I spoke to you in Chinese.

On one of the undercard fights, Jorge Arce got cut bad -- he had a deep gash over his nose and he didn't hesitate to keep fighting, even losing all that blood, he told the ref not to stop the fight. And Arce went on to win by TKO btw. Pacquiao by contrast, took a relatively long time with a far lesser cut to decide he wanted to keep going. Pacquiao's cut was minor compared to Arce's. So that's just another excuse by Pac fans in a long line of excuses you use to justify Pacquiao getting beat up by Morales.

And the bottom line ...

All you Pac fans and even the "pundits" who had Morales as the underdog, were expecting Pacquaio to beat Morales and look like he did when Pac beat an out of sorts Barrera. And when that didn't happen you start making all these excuses why Pacquiao was outgunned by Morales.

Pacquiao's corner kept telling him in the middle rounds to back Morales up. But instead, he was the one getting backed up by Morales. I've never seen Pacquiao backpedal as much as he did in that fight. He usually keeps going forward, but not in this fight.

I wanna see Pacquiao rematch Morales, Marquez or Barrera, so they can bring one-dimensional Pacquiao and his fans down to reality.

A hungry Barrera would pulverize Pac. Barrera looked like he was just going through the motions against a hungrier Pac. Juan Manuel Marquez is a far superior boxer and has more heart than Pac (it showed when he got up from his initial 3 knockdowns to put on a boxing clinic in the fight). And Morales, well he would just flat out beat up Pac AGAIN, if they rematched. It's coming. I can't wait for a Pac rematch with either one of those aforementioned 3.
but in my opinion arces cut is better than Pac, Arce's cut not affect his vission while Pac, damn you know what i mean...

Who gave you the idea that it took Pacquiao a longer time to decide if he wanted to continue or not?

Review that part again, and you will notice that a Filipino boxer simply could not understand a referee speaking in SPanish.

It doesn't take a moron not to understand a language simply foreign to you. The same would happen to you if I spoke to you in Chinese.

Pacquiao looked worried when he got cut; there was trepidation in his eyes and in his actions. Compared to Arce, who didn't flinch and fought on with an even worse cut than Pacquiao, Pac took a longer time to continue the fight. He wasn't exactly eager to get back to the fight for a while. Even Merchant (who isn't a Morales fan) commented about Pac taking too long.

for all the pac fans still hung up on this
let it go man, i know it's devastating to see your fighter lose(mine just did as well) but it's worse still to dwell on the loss rather than concentrating on moving foward

but in my opinion arces cut is better than Pac, Arce's cut not affect his vission while Pac, damn you know what i mean...

Here's a recap of the Arce-Hussein fight ...

"On the undercard, Jorge Arce scored a very controversial stoppage win over Hussein Hussein in their WBC flyweight title elimination bout that turned into a barn burner. Arce was the harder puncher, but Hussein had cut Arce bad on the bridge of his nose with a devastating shot. Not only was Arce losing a lot of blood and weakening, but the fight could have been stopped at any time from the blood going into Arce's eyes. Both fighters were going toe to toe and hurting each other throughout the entire fight, then all the sudden in round 10 Hussein gets knock down, but beats the count and is ready to fight, but his manager Jeff Fenech jumps in and stops the fight."

-- from http://www.badboysboxing.com/pages/news2.htm

Here's a recap of the Arce-Hussein fight ...

"On the undercard, Jorge Arce scored a very controversial stoppage win over Hussein Hussein in their WBC flyweight title elimination bout that turned into a barn burner. Arce was the harder puncher, but Hussein had cut Arce bad on the bridge of his nose with a devastating shot. Not only was Arce losing a lot of blood and weakening, but the fight could have been stopped at any time from the blood going into Arce's eyes. Both fighters were going toe to toe and hurting each other throughout the entire fight, then all the sudden in round 10 Hussein gets knock down, but beats the count and is ready to fight, but his manager Jeff Fenech jumps in and stops the fight."

-- from http://www.badboysboxing.com/pages/news2.htm
are you serious for this? Blood from the nose affect his vision :eek:


damn im out for this nonsense arguing :confused:

are you serious for this? Blood from the nose affect his vision :eek:


damn im out for this nonsense arguing :confused:
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-4/993721/JorgeArceHussein8.jpg


With an open wound like that, blood splatters all over including from the opponent's gloves into the eyes.

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-4/993721/JorgeArceHussein8.jpg


With an open wound like that, blood splatters all over including from the opponent's gloves into the eyes.
compared to this one... fighting w/ only one eye...

compared to this one... fighting w/ only one eye...
Arce's cut was worse than Pacquiao's and he didn't hesitate one bit to continue fighting like Pac hesitated. I brought this up in my first post on this thread because some Pac fans were claiming Morales got lucky Pac got cut and that's the reason Morales won his fight. The point was Arce got cut worse than Pacquiao and he still won his fight. And the point I was making to nadz in my last two replies to him was that contrary to what he was saying, Arce's gash did pose a problem to his vision (on top of it sapping his energy).

Morales had Pacquiao spitting out blood in his corner by the 3rd round, and in the 5th -- that's when they clashed heads and Manny got cut OVER his right eye.

But a lot of the damage Pacquiao took on the eye (UNDER the eye)happened because of punishment that accumulated over the rounds, unlike Arce which was a major gash from the outset that he got cut up ...

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-4/993721/8.jpg

...

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-4/993721/2.jpg

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-4/993721/10.jpg

Pac didn't lose in the fight cuz of the cut...
I was goin for pacman
He lost cuz his a one dimensional fighter that has nothin but his left hand, when u circle to the left around him, then he has absolutely nothing...

Pacquiao is not a good fighter...he will lose to Morales any day they fight...the fight wasn't even close...

The cut don't mean ****....

By the way I was rooting for Pacquiao that night..

Manny is just a very good fighter who gets hyped up as indestructible, which hes not, he is not a Mexican Destroyer

Manny is just a very good fighter who gets hyped up as indestructible, which hes not, he is not a Mexican Destroyer

ya JMM exposed him big

ya JMM exposed him big

He definately showed them all that he could be outboxed by a good technician!

He definately showed them all that he could be outboxed by a good technician!


yeah he can be outboxed by a good technician with a good size advantage, but i need a second opinion (rematch) anytime anywhere, against anyone ...

hope Finkel can deliver good fights for the PAC ...

Pacquiao is better IMO

he'll lose to any good boxers

yeah he can be outboxed by a good technician with a good size advantage, but i need a second opinion (rematch) anytime anywhere, against anyone ...

hope Finkel can deliver good fights for the PAC ...

I would love to see a Morales-Pac rematch...regardless of who wins, put those two in the ring together and you've got a good fight! A Pac-Barrera rematch I'm not too sure about (excitement level anyway) cause I think it's a repeat of their first bout. NOW, of course a rematch with JMM would definately get my complete attention!! :D

I would love to see a Morales-Pac rematch...regardless of who wins, put those two in the ring together and you've got a good fight! A Pac-Barrera rematch I'm not too sure about (excitement level anyway) cause I think it's a repeat of their first bout. NOW, of course a rematch with JMM would definately get my complete attention!! :D


I think they should with Reyes, that would make it 10 times better

I think Barrera-Morales with Reyes would've been more exciting to

I think they should with Reyes, that would make it 10 times better

I think Barrera-Morales with Reyes would've been more exciting to


Oh man, that would be killer!!!!! I hope very much if and when they rematch they use Reyes....putting all the nonsense about the 'gloves issue' to rest in only one reason! I dont see the fight going the full 12 in Reyes...but see Pac possibly ko'ed by the 6th (maybe). I just dont think he's gonna be able to ko Erik with any kind of gloves! So many people underestimate his chin, and thats foolhardy (as Pac has learned!)
If Barrera can keep his bearings (and knowing his rival just whipped Pac wont hurt either when it comes to motivation :D ) he would do much better against Pac than in the first bout...just gotta box and dont go to war with him cause we've already seen that Barrera can not handle his power the way Erik can ;)

Oh man, that would be killer!!!!! I hope very much if and when they rematch they use Reyes....putting all the nonsense about the 'gloves issue' to rest in only one reason! I dont see the fight going the full 12 in Reyes...but see Pac possibly ko'ed by the 6th (maybe). I just dont think he's gonna be able to ko Erik with any kind of gloves! So many people underestimate his chin, and thats foolhardy (as Pac has learned!)
If Barrera can keep his bearings (and knowing his rival just whipped Pac wont hurt either when it comes to motivation :D ) he would do much better against Pac than in the first bout...just gotta box and dont go to war with him cause we've already seen that Barrera can not handle his power the way Erik can ;)


Best poster on this site=Tracy

Best poster on this site=Tracy

Wow..thanks man, thats a hugh compliment (dont think I deserve it though :eek: ) I appreciate that! ;)

Wow..thanks man, thats a hugh compliment (dont think I deserve it though :eek: ) I appreciate that! ;)
TRACY, you got recognition , keep it up! me here i got all as though barking at the wrong tree. That's what they view about my treads.
Well , i've somethng to tell you. You know what? I'm a close relative of Manny Pacquiao living in Germany. Just after his fight I desperately made a call to his mom. But what did his mom told me, she says " let all opponents of my son be puzzled by his play.Actually Pacman were just playing around to his delight ,moreover that's making him on a peak over all superfeather weight champion in the boxing world. By the way dont be sad, just witness their rematch my son told me that he'll going to
make Morales as what he did to Barrera.there you will see the real Pacman"
So TRACY i've been convinced by what his mom has told.Lets witness PACMAN'S RETURN

TRACY, you got recognition , keep it up! me here i got all as though barking at the wrong tree. That's what they view about my treads.
Well , i've somethng to tell you. You know what? I'm a close relative of Manny Pacquiao living in Germany. Just after his fight I desperately made a call to his mom. But what did his mom told me, she says " let all opponents of my son be puzzled by his play.Actually Pacman were just playing around to his delight ,moreover that's making him on a peak over all superfeather weight champion in the boxing world. By the way dont be sad, just witness their rematch my son told me that he'll going to
make Morales as what he did to Barrera.there you will see the real Pacman"
So TRACY i've been convinced by what his mom has told.Lets witness PACMAN'S RETURN

Okay, since English (I'm guessing) is not your first language, I need a little help with what youre trying to get across to me here, okay? I know that youre not saying that Pac was simply acting all during the fight with Morales..thats just not possible. He fought too bravely, and took too fierce a beating for that to have been acting. Besides, why on earth would he do that? Considering Erik has absolutely NO obligation to give him a rematch, one would think that if he were only acting, that maybe he blew it. I dont see the professional in him even allowing for such a thing..but I'll give you this, I've heard alot of reasons, excuses and justifications, but that one is by far the wildest. Of course, that is if I'm understanding your post to begin with.

Okay, since English (I'm guessing) is not your first language, I need a little help with what youre trying to get across to me here, okay? I know that youre not saying that Pac was simply acting all during the fight with Morales..thats just not possible. He fought too bravely, and took too fierce a beating for that to have been acting. Besides, why on earth would he do that? Considering Erik has absolutely NO obligation to give him a rematch, one would think that if he were only acting, that maybe he blew it. I dont see the professional in him even allowing for such a thing..but I'll give you this, I've heard alot of reasons, excuses and justifications, but that one is by far the wildest. Of course, that is if I'm understanding your post to begin with.

How could her mom say all that when reports came in that she fainted and damn near had a heart attack and asked her son to leave boxing? :D

How could her mom say all that when reports came in that she fainted and damn near had a heart attack and asked her son to leave boxing? :D

Exactly! I'm hoping that the language barrier is the deal here...that maybe I misunderstood what he was trying to say :confused: I cant believe that anyone would truly buy that Pac was acutally 'acting' during that fight! I mean, why the hell would he do that? Crazy...too busy trying to defend himself to be acting :eek:

people like you give pac fans a bad name. morales was sharp and was the better fighter that night... give him his due.
AND YES I'M A PAC FAN!! :mad:

Yo, who's the girl in your avatar. She's tight.

Okay, since English (I'm guessing) is not your first language, I need a little help with what youre trying to get across to me here, okay? I know that youre not saying that Pac was simply acting all during the fight with Morales..thats just not possible. He fought too bravely, and took too fierce a beating for that to have been acting. Besides, why on earth would he do that? Considering Erik has absolutely NO obligation to give him a rematch, one would think that if he were only acting, that maybe he blew it. I dont see the professional in him even allowing for such a thing..but I'll give you this, I've heard alot of reasons, excuses and justifications, but that one is by far the wildest. Of course, that is if I'm understanding your post to begin with.
I'm convinced that PACMAN was in a state of playing around during the fight .I'm not insane to tell you secrets in boxing,Why did i say this? If this is not true i would not have told you. You know what? Pacman has his own secret techniques w/c we dont have to argue with publicly. Furthermore, i hope he will never listen to his trainer FREDDIE for a new techniques,such as rehearsing the right hand to make it the so-called "manila ice" .By that he fell as though uneasy to decide what hand to box ,w/c is wrong.So let PACMAN USE HIS LATTER WAYS OF TECHNIGUES. THIS IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY.

How could her mom say all that when reports came in that she fainted and damn near had a heart attack and asked her son to leave boxing? :D
After the fight he told his mom the real deal.

Exactly! I'm hoping that the language barrier is the deal here...that maybe I misunderstood what he was trying to say :confused: I cant believe that anyone would truly buy that Pac was acutally 'acting' during that fight! I mean, why the hell would he do that? Crazy...too busy trying to defend himself to be acting :eek:
TRACY,Should PACMAN once again tasted defeat to MORALES, i'm gonna delete my avatar & user name out here ,and then stop posting.Then if he wins, i'm gonna call him "THE MEXICAN TERMINATOR"

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzz z z z z z z z z z z .........

TRACY,Should PACMAN once again tasted defeat to MORALES, i'm gonna delete my avatar & user name out here ,and then stop posting.Then if he wins, i'm gonna call him "THE MEXICAN TERMINATOR"

why stop posting? Are you a fan of boxing, or just a fan of Pac's? :confused: And I think that saying pac was merely 'acting' while fighting Morales is kinda insulting to Pac...he's a pro, and this fight was very serious, so that just doesnt make sense.

I like Manny but judging on his past 2 performance it seems that he may have gotten lucky w/ Marco Antonio and caught him on an off night

why stop posting? Are you a fan of boxing, or just a fan of Pac's? :confused: And I think that saying pac was merely 'acting' while fighting Morales is kinda insulting to Pac...he's a pro, and this fight was very serious, so that just doesnt make sense.
NO, ITS ONLY MY EXPRESSION. Well, Pacman as what his records show us has been regarded as one of the top boxer,wherein finally he dropped Barrera & many other top boxers into the floor canvass showing his ability to ko others like Morales as what many expected him to, but sadly he didnt.BUT TILL NOW MANY BELIEVE that pacman could ko Morales in their much awaited rematch. i have lots of favorite boxers like Winky Wright,f.mayweather, castillo,& many other.

NO, ITS ONLY MY EXPRESSION. Well, Pacman as what his records show us has been regarded as one of the top boxer,wherein finally he dropped Barrera & many other top boxers into the floor canvass showing his ability to ko others like Morales as what many expected him to, but sadly he didnt.BUT TILL NOW MANY BELIEVE that pacman could ko Morales in their much awaited rematch. i have lots of favorite boxers like Winky Wright,f.mayweather, castillo,& many other.

You are funny man

Pacquiao sucks:D

but Wright, PBF and Castillo are good..

Pacman's problem is his stupid Roach-coach. Freddie Roach sucks ass and is the kiss of death to any fighter. Pac loses, Tyson loses, then Toney takes drugs to "beat" Ruiz and soon gonna be banned and stripped of title.

You are funny man

Pacquiao sucks:D

but Wright, PBF and Castillo are good..

and you suck! :gay:

You are funny man

Pacquiao sucks:D

but Wright, PBF and Castillo are good..
I DONT WANA MESS W/ U,BUT I'D LIKE TO.Y? COZ of YOUR FREAKY PRETTY BLAH BLAH , hey! why not review pacman's all-fights,especially vs Barrera & Marquez?!

Pacman's problem is his stupid Roach-coach. Freddie Roach sucks ass and is the kiss of death to any fighter. Pac loses, Tyson loses, then Toney takes drugs to "beat" Ruiz and soon gonna be banned and stripped of title.
I LIKE U , COZ U PROBABLY GOT THE POINT.BUT WAIT we r in grave danger of accusing by boxers u 'd just mentioned for LIBEL &/or DEFAMATION CASE.:)

ya JMM exposed him big


you couldnt be more right.

You are funny man

Pacquiao sucks:D

but Wright, PBF and Castillo are good..
I KNOW THAT YOU ARE JUST USING WINKY'S PIC, BE WHAT U R MAN. IF THIS IS SO, WE R THE SAME FUNNY MAN AS WHAT U DESCRIBED ME.

Pac"rat" Lost ...give It Up...he Was Caught On A Rat Trap(morales) And Never Got His Cheese...ask Murad......

Pac"rat" Lost ...give It Up...he Was Caught On A Rat Trap(morales) And Never Got His Cheese...ask Murad......
NO ! PACMAN HAS HAD A GOOD RECORD SURPASSING ALL TERRIBLES OUT THERE. SEE HIM ON THEIR REMATCH TO PROVE THAT HE IS CAPABLE OF ELLIMINATING ALL "EL TERRIBLBE OF MEXICO" . SEE PACMAN BITES & SWALLOW THEM UP ALL :)

NO ! PACMAN HAS HAD A GOOD RECORD SURPASSING ALL TERRIBLES OUT THERE. SEE HIM ON THEIR REMATCH TO PROVE THAT HE IS CAPABLE OF ELLIMINATING ALL "EL TERRIBLBE OF MEXICO" . SEE PACMAN BITES & SWALLOW THEM UP ALL :)


damn.. how old are you? 10?

this thread is obviously boring because it (especially the title) easily points out them facts! I dont want facts comin from this doo ZEZ. I wanna see varied opinions from otha members. So please, ZEZ, stop postin anymore facts bout Pacman OK?! Ight, take it eazy brah!