Some of you guys complain way too much about HBO commentators. It would be naive to assume that some commentators are not rooting for a certain fighter, but a great deal of people act as if the commentators make it blatantly obvious who they might be rooting for, which is simply...untrue.

All throughout the Pac fight, some people only seem to notice the comments that confirm their own biased beliefs. In the Pac fight, all 3 commentators gave props to BOTH fighters. Can a commentator not have his own opinion of how the fight looks without being accused of being a blatantly biased fool?

Basically, a large number of you would benefit by being more open-minded and refraining from reading between the lines so much. I don't like Merchant either (I think he is very impatient with fighters in interviews, when it's the fighter's turn to say their part) but do not be so short-sighted as to not be able to get beyond that.

Well said. I hear some guys on here ***** so much about both the HBO and Showtime commentators and I'm thinking, "if you hate them so much ****in turn down the sound."

I for one think that both the HBO and the guys at Showtime are very professional, funny, witty, and do their jobs well.

**** the people who complain and ***** about them.

Commentators are entitled to their opinions, but they have to keep in mind that they are professionals and must remain as objective as possible. They can not be criticizing a boxer's every move because after all, it's not the commentator the one who is up there taking punches and trying to survive. Sometimes literally trying to. Besides, it makes the sport look bad if they bring fighters down. What would a casual fan think after watching a fight and hearing some uncalled for comments about a certain fighter? It might even convince these casual fans that boxing ain't worth it.

I don't have any problem with any commentators they bring more infos into the game. i just don't like Merchant's style though.

I think Larry Merchant, Jim Lampley and Roy Jones do a great job broadcasting.

You guys may hate Merchant though I think he's good for the commentator's because he's not afraid to speak his mind and sometimes he's the only one that can get Roy Jones to shut up. As for cutting people off in the interviews. They are running on time, it's that simple. He's trying to rush through it so they don't go over the telecast time. I'm sure it's the people whispering in his ear piece, MOVE ON, NEXT QUESTION. I highly doubt he himself likes to cut people off, it's just how TV works.

You guys may hate Merchant though I think he's good for the commentator's because he's not afraid to speak his mind and sometimes he's the only one that can get Roy Jones to shut up. As for cutting people off in the interviews. They are running on time, it's that simple. He's trying to rush through it so they don't go over the telecast time. I'm sure it's the people whispering in his ear piece, MOVE ON, NEXT QUESTION. I highly doubt he himself likes to cut people off, it's just how TV works.

I see your point there.

but a great deal of people act as if the commentators make it blatantly obvious who they might be rooting for, which is simply...untrue.

This is simply not true.

I couldnt disagree more! Yes, they should root for house fighters, but to the point that the casual fan would actually forget the name of the other guy in the ring?? And they can sway people into thinking that their guy is winning sometimes when he clearly isnt. They are supposed to be professionals, therefore not blatantly biased..rooting is one thing, profound ass kissing is something else! Last night is a perfect example..you'd think it was the second coming of Christ, but no, lo and behold, it was only Vargas! What a joke..how did either Lampley or Merchant talk with their tounges so far up his rear anyway? Never mind the fact that Vargas was supposed to have Joval out of there in just a few rounds, and instead won by the slim margin of two or three pt's....according to Lampley and Merchant, he blew Joval away!! Amazing, and I'm very glad they had Steward there, who is unbiased enough to give an accurate accout of whats REALLY going on in the ring!

Manilla Assasin could you please make your signature a little smaller it stretches the board. ;)

Manilla Assasin could you please make your signature a little smaller it stretches the board. ;)

lol, that bug's you too? I hate it when the board looks like this! :confused:

lol, that bug's you too? I hate it when the board looks like this! :confused:

LOL yeah especially right now since im working with a 17" monitor. I cant have the site and something else opened at once if its stretched so far cus i have to scroll left and right to read posts . :D

BTW I also agree that Lampley and Merchant have been blatantly obvious who they been rooting for in the past. Emmanuel Stewart and Roy Jones have gotten on my good side by correcting them a few times when they been on the cheering wagon. Thank god for them.

LMFAO.

it made Ultimate's sig bigger in proportion as well. Haha.

that is priceless.

Its irritating, but I cant say exactly why! :confused:

My signature is irritating to you tracy? :confused: :(

LOL yeah especially right now since im working with a 17" monitor. I cant have the site and something else opened at once if its stretched so far cus i have to scroll left and right to read posts . :D

BTW I also agree that Lampley and Merchant have been blatantly obvious who they been rooting for in the past. Emmanuel Stewart and Roy Jones have gotten on my good side by correcting them a few times when they been on the cheering wagon. Thank god for them.

Scrolling would drive me nuts!
Hey, hang onto your seats boys, you'll only hear this once! Steward always had my respect, but, God forbid, Roy even earned it last Sat. with the "you've never boxed Larry" comment! Wow, miracles CAN happen! :eek: :D Seriously though, it is good to have somebody in there with actual boxing knowledge to correct all the worshipping that goes on around there! :rolleyes:

My signature is irritating to you tracy? :confused: :(


lol, it just makes things so W-I-D-E!!! Weird! :p

Wait wait, yours doesnt do that...its somebody elses! ;)

put about 5 internet Boxing fans on the air and each of them will have their own opinions and those watching/listening would be talking about how much they suck etc because they are biased...

well with the commentators...they are watching as fans and while try to be unbiased, they are human and have their favorites to root for as well...they should get credit for going on the air and just doing that...

people bashed Max Kellerman because of his opinions...but as an opinionated fan...he is no different than us...only his medium (television) is just more open and "official" to some that he will take a lot of slack for his opinions...

put about 5 internet Boxing fans on the air and each of them will have their own opinions and those watching/listening would be talking about how much they suck etc because they are biased...

well with the commentators...they are watching as fans and while try to be unbiased, they are human and have their favorites to root for as well...they should get credit for going on the air and just doing that...

people bashed Max Kellerman because of his opinions...but as an opinionated fan...he is no different than us...only his medium (television) is just more open and "official" to some that he will take a lot of slack for his opinions...

True, they watch as fans, but are paid to be pros...it's really not that hard you see. If I can score a fight fairly when my fav.'s are fighting, then they can root without going overboard I think. Last night, there was one time when they could have "saved face" just a little...Steward said something after the fight was over about Joval putting up a much better fight than expected, etc. Just in general giving the guy his props..neither Lampley or Merchant said a WORD! Total silence, which is very rare.

And they can sway people into thinking that their guy is winning sometimes when he clearly isnt. They are supposed to be professionals, therefore not blatantly biased

It would be impossible I guess that you only see evidence that supports your own theories, huh? I don't think so. For any fight you think they showed blatant bias, I'll show you quotes that proves you wrong, period.

Like I said...HBO's guys take too much heat and it's ridiculous. Be more open-minded. They are paid to do their job, and they do it well, but do not sit there and tell me that they blatantly root for one guy, because they do not. You may be able to tell from time to time that they might like a certain guy, but that does not make it blatant or unprofessional.

Next.

It would be impossible I guess that you only see evidence that supports your own theories, huh? I don't think so. For any fight you think they showed blatant bias, I'll show you quotes that proves you wrong, period.

Like I said...HBO's guys take too much heat and it's ridiculous. Be more open-minded. They are paid to do their job, and they do it well, but do not sit there and tell me that they blatantly root for one guy, because they do not. You may be able to tell from time to time that they might like a certain guy, but that does not make it blatant or unprofessional.

Next.

Okay, you do that...for every single time they kissed the ass of Vargas, do quote some of the praise they gave to Joval..since youre so hell bent on proving me wrong! Good luck with that, by the way, cause youre gonna need it.

put about 5 internet Boxing fans on the air and each of them will have their own opinions and those watching/listening would be talking about how much they suck etc because they are biased...

well with the commentators...they are watching as fans and while try to be unbiased, they are human and have their favorites to root for as well...they should get credit for going on the air and just doing that...

people bashed Max Kellerman because of his opinions...but as an opinionated fan...he is no different than us...only his medium (television) is just more open and "official" to some that he will take a lot of slack for his opinions...


Good post.

I highly doubt he himself likes to cut people off, it's just how TV works.

Execept for Don King. He LOVES cutting off Don King!