I can imagine you folks could care less about these two fighters. I do however, and I think this would be a decent tune up fight for William at the end of his career. One last hoora before challenging for someones title. I am not saying he would win "the title", but he sure as hell would take Joval to school with lateral movement and de-rail him worse than Vargas did tonight.

What do you think? and please. Do not respond to this if the only Joppy fight you have seen is his loss to Felix Trinidad. That would be insulting to boxing itself.

What do you fellow posters think? Who wins at 160?

3-time "beltholder" is what I have heard. B.S.
more like 3 time WORLD CHAMPION. Someone eventually has to walk through his gate. And he is not going to let it swing open like he did against Taylor. I Gauruntee that people.

I think Joppy would dismantle Joval, but I don't think he's deserving of another title shot even if he does.

Joppy is a shot fighter, he looked like **** in his last fight with Taylor. That being said I think that a Joppy vs. Joval matchup makes sense for both men. Although I think that this fight to most fans is absoulutley meaningless it definitely makes sense.

I'm not sure who would win this one. :confused:

Most likely Joppy wins on points.

I really don't like saying that fighters are done or washed up but sometimes you just have ot face facts. Joppy is a tough fighter who had a damn good career but he's finished.

Even if he could somehow get back on track, he won't be able to get a shot at the title. He doesn't bring any money to the table and when your in a division where everybody, with a name, is running to, he becomes a non-factor. But really, he has been a non-factor for awhile.

everyone likes him, and he came up shorter than Joppy in his defining fights. Not to mention, Joppy has faced better opposition throughout his career. WAY BETTER THAN MIKE.
If he was a heavyweight, he would not lose to a chump like Danny Williams or Buster Douglas. I am sorry.

but those are "If's" I suppose.

What is this about? Why did you edit your post, to put in a totally random quote to bash another fighter who is another weight class.

What is this about? Why did you edit your post, to put in a totally random quote to bash another fighter who is another weight class.

I was trying to defend my position in thinking that he is not a shot fighter; when everyone still gives Mike Tyson a punchers chance for the heavyweight division. It had nothing to do with you being a Tyson fan. And that is just the way I feel about these 2 fighters in general, and "media" hype.

It certainly has nothing to do with me disliking Tyson. That is for sure. I was using it as comparison. However deceiving my signature WAS.

You are 100% correct about that. That is one thing that would be out of grasp for him, and it was a bit delusional on my part to think he would recieve a shot. However me feeling he is "deserved". My earlier point was though....if hypothetically he were to fight and beat someone as "popular" as Ricardo Mayorga, whom I think he would have little trouble in doing, would he deserve one then?

Oh and BTW...not on topic or anything>
but if you have seen it, who do you think won the Joppy/Byrd fight at middle in the olympics? I think Joppy was robbed.


If Joppy were to beat as someone as popular as Mayorga, I will totally retract my statments of him being a shot fighter, but he won't. He had his chance to do this against Taylor and he didn't. He didn't because he couldn't. He couldn't because he is a shot fighter.

I was trying to defend my position in thinking that he is not a shot fighter; when everyone still gives Mike Tyson a punchers chance for the heavyweight division. It had nothing to do with you being a Tyson fan. And that is just the way I feel about these 2 fighters in general, and "media" hype.

It certainly has nothing to do with me disliking Tyson. That is for sure. I was using it as comparison. However deceiving my signature is.

I see...however how many people do you hear say, "Joppy still has a puncher's chance."

(Sound of crickets chirping)

Are you saying he would not beat Mayorga? Ricardo blew up to middle and did not bring his power with him. That would be the only thing that could keep Joppy off of him. I would literally place every point in the bank on William in this fight. He would be far too slick for him, and would take him to school five times worse than Spinks did. He would hurt him also, worse than corey, because he is a far bigger puncher.

Why did you change my quote? I said if he were to beat someone as popular as Mayorga not if he were to beat Mayorga, I just thought that you were using him as an exmaple as a big name opponent.

Mayorga is fighting at 154 now anyway, but if they were to fight each other I think that Mayorga would beat Joppy.

mayorga would knock joppy on his ass.

quit defending joppy already and go to sleep.

I did not have to change your quote to put words in your mouth:
that you already put there yourself.

But you did change my quote, regardless of what I think about Mayorga beating Joppy, you changed it.

However the matter is trivial, I do not wish to argue on this as it may lead to detracting from your thread.

cry and insult me because your boy joppy is worthless

Who knew that a thread about a hypothetical mathcup between a shot William Joppy and a realitve no name middleweight Raymond Joval would spark such a heated debate? :D

hey buddy, you posted your opinion, and I posted mine.

stop being an assbandit and live with my response

and since when did post count have anything to do with boxing knowledge?? I'm sorry that I just started visiting this site you child.

Knives, I understand that you like Joppy's style. I agree that he was very good and his jab is one of the best in the sport even now. But out of all the things you wrote, the one about Wright schooling Trinidad made no sense. Even if Wright gets the win ( something that I doubt), it would not be a boxing lesson. Maybe a close decision would be the worst case scenario.

and i posted my opinion to your discussion

he will get knocked the f out.

The thing is that I don't think that Wright has the style to school Trinidad. First, because he comes forward and even though he has a very good torso defense, fighting in front of Trinidad will be a huge mistake. Second, he does not have enough power to keep Trinidad at bay. Last but not least, Trinidad never had trouble with southpaws. Having exposed my thoughts, I must finish by stating that the best that Wright could get would be a close decision.

Joval will Knock Joppy out?

is that what you are saying?

because this is what this thread is about. Nobody invited you into the conversation Warrior and I were having.




do you always edit your quotes??? i find it quite hard to respond... and No not joval , Mayorga would.

since your previous post was like 4 pages long i won't quote it all but you said IMO he would dismantle Mayorga, Joval, Eastman again, and even has a shot at beating Winky when he is through taking Trinidad to school.


now you tell me what i responded to after that. I'm done replying to your posts for now because you are very thickheaded.

ROFL i haven't deleted any posts

GO LOOK FOR YOURSELF

stop doing drugs plz it's severely messing with you.

now go edit your post like you do all of them so you don't look like a complete fool.

i punch below the belt

mayorga would knock joppy on his ass.

quit defending joppy already and go to sleep.


once again crackhead i did not delete this post. IT IS ON PAGE 2

once again crackhead i did not delete this post. IT IS ON PAGE 2


what kind of post is Mayorga would knock joppy the **** out, that's a stupid post at least explain why not a one liner.


Unless your trying to get to the download section fast.

joppy is worthless

10-4-1 in title fights is not worthless dude. I am sorry. Do a little boxing research.

10-4-1 in title fights is not worthless dude. I am sorry. Do a little boxing research.

Should have been 3 losses instead of 4 if the first Green fight was the robbery that most say. I did not see the fight though.

Joppy was tight.




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