Can we questions Naseem Hamed's heart ? People do question his heart and ive heard people say Tyson had heart and that Hamed did not have heart because he walked away, but Hamed has never quit inside the ring, he has been down multiple times but still got up dusted himself down and took the opponent out, he also had to tough it against Manuel Medina when he was flued up, he was tagged a few times and looked terrible but he still brought a performance out and managed to stop the durable, tough Medina.

How many times had Hamed had to come back from KD's.............Sanchez, Alicea, Kelly.

People are quick to say he did not have heart because he quit but i dont know how true that is, he showed heart!! in the ring if not outside it or by not coming back.

What do you think?

An 'astounding little warrior' in the ring..
But unfortunately, a 'gutless short turd' on the outside of it..

An 'astounding little warrior' in the ring..
But unfortunately, a 'gutless short turd' on the outside of it..For once Mickey my mate ...i am gonna sort of gonna disagree with you...you see i think Nassem had great heart whilst he thought he couldnt be beat...but once he lost ..i think he lost his self belief ..if that makes any sense!!

For once Mickey my mate ...i am gonna sort of gonna disagree with you...you see i think Nassem had great heart whilst he thought he couldnt be beat...but once he lost ..i think he lost his self belief ..if that makes any sense!!
Of course it makes sense, that's spot 'bollock'

I'm referring to the bad hearted way he treats people.. Like leaving that couple for dead not too long ago..

But no, there's nothing wrong with his 'fighting' heart..

Just don't say he had "No Heart" since that shouldn't be near any top fighter. Just stepping into the ring at that level shows you have heart. Most people would piss their pants in the locker-room and refuse to come out.

There is a lot to it with "Heart" since in my opinion, it goes along with your motivation/hunger...how you are trained, and so on. Your "Heart" level can be high at one point in time but down the next because you are just not into it anymore. If Naz had no heart he would have never made it as far as he did.

Naz just isn't in that elite company because he never tried to climb back out of the whole after that loss to MAB to get a rematch or even fight for another title. But maybe he knew his limitations as well: He was Good but just not ATG good to beat someone like MAB so what was the point. Your either Champ or nothing. So he retired.

They probably should have kept his ass poor like many fighters but that wasn't going to happen.
That's one big disadvantage I feel with new generation fighters compared to fighters way back: Today's "stars" can get paid incredible amounts of money and sit on their ass for months without a fight which can soften their heart/body...while Old Timers needed that monthly pay-check to put food on the table. Of course there were some that made so much money that they didn't have to fight for a few years, like Dempsey, but he was the exception...and it probably did cost him against Gene Tunney.
But that's all about being a "Pro" and you have to learn to deal with it and adapt because people do.

Of course it makes sense, that's spot 'bollock'

I'm referring to the bad hearted way he treats people.. Like leaving that couple for dead not too long ago..

But no, there's nothing wrong with his 'fighting' heart.. Oh yeh ...he was bag of ****t when he run away from that car crash....makes you think weather he had been drinking !??...hence why he wanted someone else to say they were driving !

Hamed also broke his hands in a few of his fights I believe and he fought through those, he did have a pretty good heart.

it was his attitude that let him down
he lost the barrera fight before he stepped into the ring,he delayed the fight and was complaining in his dressing room-he wasnt there psychologically and that was his downfall

it was his attitude that let him down
he lost the barrera fight before he stepped into the ring,he delayed the fight and was complaining in his dressing room-he wasnt there psychologically and that was his downfall
Getting rid of Ingle was his first mistake.. He then ceased practicing the style he'd become accustomed to.. His new trainer (think his name was Oscar Saurez) Then made changes (tampered with the engine) that Hamed couldn't adjust to..

Hameds style was not unlike a lot of the Ingle fighters, it's the way he's always taught the sport.. Look at Junior Witter, Johnny Nelson & Herol Graham for example.. All Ingle based 'reflex' fighters, & Hamed was by far the best of em!
Had he been a good boy, gone back after the Barrera defeat, and said sorry to Brendon, then I'm sure he'd have won his title back.. But I'm afraid the word sorry dosn't exist in the Hamed book of charm does it?... So he swallowed his pride, got fat, bought a fast car and went out killing people, and he never once said sorry for that either..

Can we questions Naseem Hamed's heart ? People do question his heart and ive heard people say Tyson had heart and that Hamed did not have heart because he walked away, but Hamed has never quit inside the ring, he has been down multiple times but still got up dusted himself down and took the opponent out, he also had to tough it against Manuel Medina when he was flued up, he was tagged a few times and looked terrible but he still brought a performance out and managed to stop the durable, tough Medina.

How many times had Hamed had to come back from KD's.............Sanchez, Alicea, Kelly.

People are quick to say he did not have heart because he quit but i dont know how true that is, he showed heart!! in the ring if not outside it or by not coming back.

What do you think?

If I'm not mistaken. Naseem was dropped but all of the were flash knockdowns. He was never hurt so he never had any thought of quitting inside the ring. I think his loss to Barrera destroyed his confidence. He honestly thought he could beat anyone and didn't think he could be touched. So when he lost he probably lost the fire to compete. Some guys just can't take losses the same way others do.

Getting rid of Ingle was his first mistake.. He then ceased practicing the style he'd become accustomed to.. His new trainer (think his name was Oscar Saurez) Then made changes (tampered with the engine) that Hamed couldn't adjust to..

Hameds style was not unlike a lot of the Ingle fighters, it's the way he's always taught the sport.. Look at Junior Witter, Johnny Nelson & Herol Graham for example.. All Ingle based 'reflex' fighters, & Hamed was by far the best of em!
Had he been a good boy, gone back after the Barrera defeat, and said sorry to Brendon, then I'm sure he'd have won his title back.. But I'm afraid the word sorry dosn't exist in the Hamed book of charm does it?... So he swallowed his pride, got fat, bought a fast car and went out killing people, and he never once said sorry for that either..


Hamed was by far the best of em!


I disagree with that. I think Graham was a lot more skilled than Hamed but Hamed probably had a better chin & more power so it took him further.

Hamed only fought one elite fighter, Graham had to fight two, McCallum, Kalambay and even though MAB is one of the my fav's, he is not as good as either McCallum or Kalambay technically!!!

Graham beat Kalambay in the rematch imo, he also run McCallum as close as anyone.

Hamed was by far the best of em!


I disagree with that. I think Graham was a lot more skilled than Hamed but Hamed probably had a better chin & more power so it took him further.

Hamed only fought one elite fighter, Graham had to fight two, McCallum, Kalambay and even though MAB is one of the my fav's, he is not as good as either McCallum or Kalambay technically!!!

Graham beat Kalambay in the rematch imo, he also run McCallum as close as anyone.
No way!.. Hamed could do things Graham could only dream of.. He could KYTFO from angles that hadn't been invented.. Graham took punishment in a lot of his fights where as you couldn't hit Hamed with handful of rice..
How many world champions did Graham beat? It doesn't bear into comparison..
Until Barrera, Hamed went through his division like a dose of salts, while Graham only ever fought as a contender in his.. All you've got on Graham is that he fought 2 very good fighters.. Sorry, I still go with Naz on this one..

No way!.. Hamed could do things Graham could only dream of.. He could KYTFO from angles that hadn't been invented.. Graham took punishment in a lot of his fights where as you couldn't hit Hamed with handful of rice..
How many world champions did Graham beat? It doesn't bear into comparison..
Until Barrera, Hamed went through his division like a dose of salts, while Graham only ever fought as a contender in his.. All you've got on Graham is that he fought 2 very good fighters.. Sorry, I still go with Naz on this one..

Naz was never that illusive imo when he stepped into World Class, his power had to bail him out quite a few times, he got nailed in virtually every fight after the Robinson fight, he was even decked in his second defence.

Graham did not have the power of Hamed but Graham used to pick counter punches that used make me think daamn! that was bad ass.

Graham was able to box rings around Charles Brewer when he was near 40 years old, he also outpointed Pazienza when he was how old, as you know.

He also beat Ayub Kalule?

For pure skills i think Graham was the better fighter, its just Hamed had crazy power.

Hamed HATED training. You can see now by the way hes let himself go that he always just wanted to pig out and let loose but he had to stay in shape and always had to train (before the Johnson fight he wasnt training properly and he gassed big time in that fight).

Also...he wanted to spend more time with his wife and kids. That's a big thing in Muslim families.

He also revealed the main reason he quit boxing was because his hands kept breaking and after every fight his hands would be so swollen that he would have to use scissors to take off his boxing gloves and handwraps.

Naz was never that illusive imo when he stepped into World Class, his power had to bail him out quite a few times, he got nailed in virtually every fight after the Robinson fight, he was even decked in his second defence.

Graham did not have the power of Hamed but Graham used to pick counter punches that used make me think daamn! that was bad ass.

Graham was able to box rings around Charles Brewer when he was near 40 years old, he also outpointed Pazienza when he was how old, as you know.

He also beat Ayub Kalule?

For pure skills i think Graham was the better fighter, its just Hamed had crazy power.
I'd say you underrate Graham's chin slightly.. He had a much better chin than Hamed infact.. If you take away the defeat to Frank Grant, in which a shot Graham basically gssed out, he was only ever KTFO by Jackson with a punch that would have dropped a shire horse..

Graham did beat a past prime Kalule at L/middle, but he did get hit doing it..
Just to make a comparison, Have you ever seen the Hamed Vazquez fight?
Graham may have had the better PURE skills, but no way were they as effective as the UNUSUAL skills of Hamed.. I was going to say UNIQUE, but then I thought of Jimmy Wilde..

Hamed HATED training. You can see now by the way hes let himself go that he always just wanted to pig out and let loose but he had to stay in shape and always had to train (before the Johnson fight he wasnt training properly and he gassed big time in that fight).

Also...he wanted to spend more time with his wife and kids. That's a big thing in Muslim families.

He also revealed the main reason he quit boxing was because his hands kept breaking and after every fight his hands would be so swollen that he would have to use scissors to take off his boxing gloves and handwraps.
I can believe that actually.. Those kind of 'Rocket Launchers' will take their toll on any fighters hands.. Not only that, but fighters who rely on reflexes, generally have short careers anyway.. In Hamed's case, a particularly good one though!

Naz was never that illusive imo when he stepped into World Class, his power had to bail him out quite a few times, he got nailed in virtually every fight after the Robinson fight, he was even decked in his second defence.

Graham did not have the power of Hamed but Graham used to pick counter punches that used make me think daamn! that was bad ass.

Graham was able to box rings around Charles Brewer when he was near 40 years old, he also outpointed Pazienza when he was how old, as you know.

He also beat Ayub Kalule?

For pure skills i think Graham was the better fighter, its just Hamed had crazy power.

Very true. That hands down reflex based defence doesn't hold up forever against top level opponents.

I will never forget reading in a boxing mag...they were interviewing Manny Stewart...and they asked him who was the hardest puncher he had ever held the pads for...He said: Nassem Hamed..no question !
He also went on to say Hamed had the strongest legs hes ever seen on a small fighter!