Gianfranco Rossi L/M
Sandro Mazzinghi L/M
Rocky Mattioli L/M
Nino Benvenuti L/M and MW
Vincenzo Nardielo S/M
Mauro Galvano S/M
Bruno Arcari L/W
Duilo Loi L/W
Patrizio Oliva L/W
Mario D'Agata
Maurizio Stecca F/W
Loris Stecca S/B
Primo Carnera H/W
Francisco Damiani H/W
Nino La Rocca WW

Apart from La Rocca, who was a very classy fighter, they were all world champs, who besides Carnera all have 2 things very much in common..

1. They are/were all Italians who resided in Italy
2. Very very few posters ever mention them

Is it because they are not Italian/American?
Have any of the above ever fought one of there mixed race compatriots?
Who's the greatest thoroughbred Italian? and is he greater than the best of the mixed race guys?

Fair amount of room for discussion here, but should any of the kindergarten posters stumble upon this thread, it has absolutely nothing to do with Joe Calzaghe or Enzo Maccarinelli..

Gianfranco Rossi L/M
Sandro Mazzinghi L/M
Rocky Mattioli L/M
Nino Benvenuti L/M and MW
Vincenzo Nardielo S/M
Mauro Galvano S/M
Bruno Arcari L/W
Duilo Loi L/W
Patrizio Oliva L/W
Mario D'Agata
Maurizio Stecca F/W
Loris Stecca S/B
Primo Carnera H/W
Francisco Damiani H/W
Nino La Rocca WW

Apart from La Rocca, who was a very classy fighter, they were all world champs, who besides Carnera all have 2 things very much in common..

1. They are/were all Italians who resided in Italy
2. Very very few posters ever mention them

Is it because they are not Italian/American?
Have any of the above ever fought one of there mixed race compatriots?
Who's the greatest thoroughbred Italian? and is he greater than the best of the mixed race guys?

Fair amount of room for discussion here, but should any of the kindergarten posters stumble upon this thread, it has absolutely nothing to do with Joe Calzaghe or Enzo Maccarinelli..

You forgot Vincenzo Cantatore. He was a solid contender as a cruiserweight and lost a disputed decision to Johnny Nelson, dropping him once. His record is also solid, 33(27)-5-1. He was also stopped rather controversially by Braithwaite.

You forgot Vincenzo Cantatore. He was a solid contender as a cruiserweight and lost a disputed decision to Johnny Nelson, dropping him once. His record is also solid, 33(27)-5-1. He was also stopped rather controversially by Braithwaite.
Don't know a lot about Cantatore.. Only that he was Italian HW champ about 2 years ago.. Did he ever win a European title at CW or HW?

I forgot about Branco and Fragomeni to, but that's just my bias for the history of the sport coming into play..

i'm sicilian heritage and understand most norte a..hole itals don't consider
sicilians italian but to me benvenuti for standing up againsy mohaamed ali

i'm sicilian heritage and understand most norte a..hole itals don't consider
sicilians italian but to me benvenuti for standing up againsy mohaamed ali
I thought Stanley Unwin was dead..

Don't know a lot about Cantatore.. Only that he was Italian HW champ about 2 years ago.. Did he ever win a European title at CW or HW?

I forgot about Branco and Fragomeni to, but that's just my bias for the history of the sport coming into play..

Yes, he was the European champ at CW. Twice. I also like Franecsco Damiani, he was one of the best Euro HWs of his era definitely. If not the best.

Yes, he was the European champ at CW. Twice. I also like Franecsco Damiani, he was one of the best Euro HWs of his era definitely. If not the best.
Damiani was at times quite cruely underrated.. Apart from 2 broken noses by virtue of Mercer & McCall respectively, he had a fairly good career..
Had a bit of a John McDermott physique, kind of pudgy and short armed.. Limitations I thought he made good use of.. His ring generalmanship was excellent, and so was his handspeed.. Thoroughly beat the hard punching Johnny Du Plooey in South Africa to win the WBO title, I think it was via 5th rnd KO.. Went on to lose it to Mercer (big left uppercut in the 9th).. I believe he lost only to McCall after that when Oliver was on the way up and Damiani was past prime..

Benvenuti and Loi I've seen discussed a bit: Not shocking as Loi is an ATG and Benvenuti is arguably one. The others don't quite rise that level and a fighter really has to rise to that level to get a lot of ink outside their own country.

Poet

Benvenuti and Loi I've seen discussed a bit: Not shocking as Loi is an ATG and Benvenuti is arguably one. The others don't quite rise that level and a fighter really has to rise to that level to get a lot of ink outside their own country.

Poet
I've been anticipating when someone would identify Loi as the jewel in the crown.. Not surprised it was you Poet.. He really was a class act wasn't he?

I've been anticipating when someone would identify Loi as the jewel in the crown.. Not surprised it was you Poet.. He really was a class act wasn't he?

Terrific fighter, absolutely! Ranks with guys like Whitaker as far as having all-time best defense :boxing:

Poet

Terrific fighter, absolutely! Ranks with guys like Whitaker as far as having all-time best defense :boxing:

Poet
I'd say the only thing that prevented him becoming a God, was his world championship resume.. He was the best in Europe by a sweet country mile for far too long in my opinion, and didn't enter the world stage until late on in his career..
What's amazing, is even though he was considerably past prime, he was able to get the better of Carlos Ortiz over 3 fights & had a 1-1-1 trilogy with the much fresher Eddie Perkins.. To cap it all Loi actually retired as champ after beating Perkins..

Damiani was at times quite cruely underrated.. Apart from 2 broken noses by virtue of Mercer & McCall respectively, he had a fairly good career..
Had a bit of a John McDermott physique, kind of pudgy and short armed.. Limitations I thought he made good use of.. His ring generalmanship was excellent, and so was his handspeed.. Thoroughly beat the hard punching Johnny Du Plooey in South Africa to win the WBO title, I think it was via 5th rnd KO.. Went on to lose it to Mercer (big left uppercut in the 9th).. I believe he lost only to McCall after that when Oliver was on the way up and Damiani was past prime..

Damiani also beat Greg Page. On points.

Damiani also beat Greg Page. On points.
He did to, but not the best version of Page..
I've always felt bad about the way Page's career ended.. Real shame..

He did to, but not the best version of Page..
I've always felt bad about the way Page's career ended.. Real shame..

He "overstepped" himself seriously. He shoulda hanged up the gloves way before.

Vincenzo Nardielo ...what a poor world champion he was lol

Vincenzo Nardielo ...what a poor world champion he was lol
Lol... Peculiar kind of bloke wasn't he? Remember him slipping and sliding all over the place against Benn.. He must of fell over about 10 times in one of the earlier rounds.. It was like he'd been on the piss, with that stupid look of fear on his face that actually looked like he was laughing lol.. Once he ran out of ways to fall over, he started crying and whinging to the Ref every time Benn sploshed him! Funny funny guy!

Lol... Peculiar kind of bloke wasn't he? Remember him slipping and sliding all over the place against Benn.. He must of fell over about 10 times in one of the earlier rounds.. It was like he'd been on the piss, with that stupid look of fear on his face that actually looked like he was laughing lol.. Once he ran out of ways to fall over, he started crying and whinging to the Ref every time Benn sploshed him! Funny funny guy!That was funny yeh lol
Henry Wharton flattend him...and i think hes the only man to ever have put Wharton ...Henry got up and KOed him though...in fact they didnt have a bad old fight :boxing:

That was funny yeh lol
Henry Wharton flattend him...and i think hes the only man to ever have put Wharton ...Henry got up and KOed him though...in fact they didnt have a bad old fight :boxing:
He got done by Reed & Woodhall after that to..

He got done by Reed & Woodhall after that to..When Nardeilo fought Benn he had ICE shaved in to the back of his head lol

When Nardeilo fought Benn he had ICE shaved in to the back of his head lol
Should have been ICED lol..

He'd definately be up there, if a list of poorest world champs..
In fact that's inspired a new thread...