View Full Version : ITS ON!!! Thomas Hearns vs. Jake LaMotta..... March 27,2005
PessimisticPug 03-25-2005, 08:56 PM ITS ON!!!!!! March 27th,2005 at the Olympia in Downtown Detroit. Yes, its easter sunday and these two warriors will not be denied their chance to crack a few eggs here.
The Bronx Bull will step into the ring at the middleweight limit of 160lbs and in his prime. The Hitman, aswell in his prime, will move up from the Jr. Middlewieght limit to throw fists with his seemingly unstoppable opponent in this 10 round middleweight barnburner.
LaMotta will certainly force this fight with his constant aggression and seemingly endless supply of punching artillery. Hearns will look to use his reach and power to crack the shell of LaMotta and put him down for the first time in his career.
Its Easter sunday and ITS ON!!!! You will want to be at the Olympia, when these two legends collide, for it will not be easter dyes to color the eggs. When fists and fury like these meet in the ring the only color that will be prominent will be blood red. So come on down to the Olympia in Detoit, Mi. Yes everybody is going to be there, we already have word that Jesus has indeed already purchased his ring side seat......Rockin'
PessimisticPug 03-25-2005, 09:06 PM And upcoming bouts of note
Heavyweights
Harry Wills will finally, after 70 years, get his crack at the heavyweight title when he steps in against the champion Jack Dempsey. Aint no predjudice between these ropes Jack, your going to have to throw down.
Lightweights
Pernell Whitaker will use his ring savy and defensive wizardry in his attempt to take the belt from the waist of "Hammerin" Henry Armstrong, the only man to hold three titles in three divisions at one time. This classic match up of aggresion and power vs. defensive and ring genius will certainly be one to be remembered.
Light Heavyweights
Michael Moorer will look to pound Michael Spinks into submission in this Light heavyweight title fight. It will be Moorers overwhelming power against michael Spinks' boxing ability and undefeated record. Who will walk away the Light Heavyweight king of the world.
Stay tuned as Rumblin' Rockin' Productions will continue to bring you ringside for the best bouts that a century could possibly offer. If its in your mind, we can put the fight together. Contact Rumblin' Rockin' Productions with any bout of interest...............Rockin'
The Fix 03-25-2005, 09:29 PM i dont understand :confused:
FrankJack 03-25-2005, 09:33 PM .........What?
PessimisticPug 03-25-2005, 09:39 PM Its Rumblin' Rockin' Productions fantasy fight throw downs. We'll take any of the 2 best fighters, or the worst for that matter, from any division of any era and throw them in the ring for the fight of the century. Time is nothing that can stop these fighters from stepping into the ring and fighting for their rightfull place in history.
The fights will be simulated and then reported on a round by round basis so that you will not miss any important punch or wonder where and why the blood is flowing.
There are knockdowns, broken ribs and brutal knockouts when Rumblin' Rockin' Prtoductions throws a fight card. So dont miss the fight, March 27, 2005 when The Hitman, Thomas Hearns steps in to throw fists with the Bronx Bull, Jake Lamotta.
Bets can be placed on this fight if you would like. All points bet will be thrown into a pool and then divided amongst the winning betters on a percentage basis of how much you had bet. All points that were bet will be paid back out. I keep none at this point............Rockin'
The Fix 03-25-2005, 09:40 PM can you do roy jones vs ray robinson in their primes?
PessimisticPug 03-25-2005, 09:46 PM yup, i can do anybody against anybody. If this first fight goes off good I could do all kinds of them. What I am looking for is for people to become involved in discussion about what they think about the fighters and the match ups. The betting part is for fun, I will not change a result because of who may have bet on who. Rumblin' Rockin' Productions believes in 3 things. Honesty, integrity and giving the boxing public only the fights that they can dream of. So get involved and lets get the fantasy fists flying as only Rumblin' Rockin'Productions can.............Rockin'
boxer2k5 03-25-2005, 09:48 PM i dont understand :confused:
i think rockin was rockin that pipe with pernell a little bit too long
Kid Achilles 03-25-2005, 09:48 PM LaMotta vs. Hearns.
Tough fight to call. Hearns definitely can crack, and his punches had unbelievable speed behind them but he is fighting above his weightclass against one of the most iron chinned middleweights in history. I predict this will probably start like most of the LaMotta-Robinson fights (with Hearns playing the part of Robinson, establishing his jab with the help of the added reach and handspeed) but the crucial difference is that Ray had a great chin and Hearns...well let's just be respectful of the Motor City Cobra and say his chin wasn't his strong point. ; )
One thing with LaMotta, he would hit you. He wasn't as quick as Hearns but he was no slow poke and he really swarmed his opponent with hard blows to the head and body. Disregard the low KO record. He wasn't a KO artist but he ended Laurent Dauthuilles great night with one punch (well with something like 13 seconds to spare on the last round. He also had Robinson in trouble in most of their fights and even knocked him down. I am completely sure that LaMotta had the punching power to hurt welterweight Hearns.
So who do I go with? Jake LaMotta, because he was a middleweight (and a big middleweight at that who had trouble making the 160 limit) and would pressure Hearns like Hagler did. He didn't punch as hard as Hagler did, so it probably goes into the mid to late rounds before LaMotta knocks him out. Hearns' just didn't have the chin to withstand that many punches, nor the strength to tie up LaMotta in the clinches.
He shouldn't feel bad though; there is no shame in losing to an all time great who fought at a higher weight class than his own.
can you do roy jones vs ray robinson in their primes?
robinson is too small for jones jr..no contest
boxer2k5 03-25-2005, 09:51 PM James toney vs ray roberson
manila_assasin 03-25-2005, 09:54 PM I don't get it sir...:(
PessimisticPug 03-25-2005, 10:06 PM I am going to run simulation bouts of the great fighters of the present and past. I will then write up fight summarys of the things that went down in the bout. Rumblin' Rockin' Productions will promote the bouts in hope of generating some quality conversations between the forum members about the fighters of the past who others might not know much about...............Rockin'
The Fix 03-25-2005, 10:41 PM robinson is too small for jones jr..no contest
roy jones prime was at 168 what was robinsons? they could do it at a catch weight
PessimisticPug 03-25-2005, 10:44 PM This is how the betting system will work.
say that 1 million was bet between all of the betters on fighter A
and 500,000 was bet by everybody on fighter B
If fighter A was to win then your bet would be divided into the toatal amount bet on that fighter to come up with percentage. Then that percentage would be divided into the total points bet on fighter B for a percentage of the toatal take. Therefore, you would recieve your original bet back and then your percentage of the points bet on fighter B. Thus if you had 50% of the toatal points bet on fighter A then you would win 50% of the toatal points bet on fighter B. Meaning that you would have 750,000 points coming back to you when its all said and done..............Rockin'
The Fix 03-25-2005, 10:45 PM how about henry armstrong vs floyd mayweather and pernell whitiker vs dlh in there primes
PessimisticPug 03-25-2005, 10:49 PM Rumblin' Rockin' Productions can do who ever the public demands and wants to see fight. To start we will have only one feature bout each week. Possibly add more later if it catches on.........Rockin'
Rockin, are you using the TitleBout simulator for these fights?
PessimisticPug 03-25-2005, 10:56 PM its an ancient chienese secret. The simulations are not computer generated. The results have always been accurate with in a certain degree. If Rumblin' Rockin' Productions told you of this ancient chienese secret, im afraid that we would have to eliminate you.LMAO.............Rockin'
Chups 03-25-2005, 10:59 PM WTF??? :confused:
:hijacked:
its an ancient chienese secret. The simulations are not computer generated. The results have always been accurate with in a certain degree. If Rumblin' Rockin' Productions told you of this ancient chienese secret, im afraid that we would have to eliminate you.LMAO.............Rockin'
Ancient Chinese secret, eh? LOL!
Hey, this is a pretty cool project that you plan on doing and I wish you the best of luck with it. I know I'll be following it closely.
PessimisticPug 03-25-2005, 11:43 PM It seems that there has been a blow up in the Lamotta training camp. Once hearing the announcement that the bout was to be scheduled for 10 rounds, they blew up..."What da F**K is goin on here.... when we was talkin about dat fight we had agreed tat it was goin to be a 15 round f**kin fight. Dez bums can kiss my a**!!!!" When we tried contacting Thomas Hearns for insight into the matter he was, as we were told, unavailable at the time.
So we will put this up for the public. Is this going to be a 10 round fight or a 15 round non title fight. The decision is yours and your input would be greatly appreciated.
Sincerly yours
Rumblin' Rockin' Productions
Rockin, I'd say if both of the fighters were world champions and have fought in the 15 round era, like both LaMotta and to a lesser extent Hearns were, make it a 15 rounder.
Actually, I'd say schedule all of the fights for 15 rounds, unless BOTH fighters have fought in the more modern 12 round era.
That's just me, though. :)
MlLkMan 03-25-2005, 11:59 PM Fanstasy??????????
Ok, these are my predictions on how the Chinese are going to decide these fights that have already been scheduled;
Jake LaMotta TKO-8 Thomas Hearns
If it's a middleweight, I think Hearns is going to have loads of trouble dealing with the strength, toughness, aggressiveness, punch output, and the cleverness of LaMotta. I think Hearns will outbox LaMotta for the first few rounds, as he uses his footwork, handspeed, reach advantage and especially his jab. But eventually he's going to be drawn into a brawl and that's going to be the key for a LaMotta victory. Hearns often got drawn into brawls with lesser, but alot tougher and more aggressive talents like Barkley and Roldan (Hagler wasn't a lesser talent, but same thing there). LaMotta isn't an overly powerful puncher, but I think his body punching will take it's toll on Hearns, who didn't have the best of stamina, and eventually stop him at around the midway point.
If you disagree with me on that pick, blame it on Yao Ming, as he was the one who gave me some inside information on the matchup.
Who's next, Dempsey and Wills? Ok, I think about that matchup for a minute and then give my thoughts.
PessimisticPug 03-26-2005, 12:06 AM yes, Rumblin' Rockin' Productions fantasy throw downs. If the public demands the fight then we demand that they fight for you. And they will. If you can dream it, we can make it happen...........Rockin'
Jack Dempsey UD-15 Harry Wills
This is a tough one to pick because I've never seen Wills in action, so I have to go with what was written about him. He was apparently a pretty talented boxer from the outside, and who also had a pretty powerful punch. But he wasn't the quickest guy around and I think that's going to be the key in this matchup.
The Chinaman in me can see Dempsey coming out strong as he was prone to do and having a big start to the first round, as he knocks Wills down for a brief count. But ala the Dempsey/Firpo fight, I can see Wills knocking Dempsey down when Jack tries to finish his bigger opponent. After a very exciting first round, I can picture Dempsey slowing the pace, which allows Wills the opportunity to box him from the outside from behind the jab. But Dempsey is still going to have his success with his quickness of hand and foot, as he uses his bob and weave style to get inside and scored to the head and body of Wills.
A pretty close fight, as Wills outside skills, size and toughness enable him to last the distance. But Dempsey's always one step ahead of him in this fight and lands enough punishing shots to take the decision by, oh about 10-5 in rounds.
julDilla 03-26-2005, 12:35 AM 20 Rounds!!! :boxing:
Sir_Jose 03-26-2005, 03:15 AM As great as Tommy was his chin was just flat out garbage. I think eventually LaMotta would catch him and stop him late to pull out a victory after being outboxed early.
abdiel2k3 03-26-2005, 03:16 AM this **** sounds interesten
lets get it on!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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.::|ULTIMATE|::. 03-26-2005, 03:18 AM Make it 15 rounds,
Lamotta stops him in the 9th anyway though!! :D ;)
Thought that slingshot like right hand of tommy is worrysome he could stop a bull with it... get it?
MWCOFSU 03-26-2005, 11:33 AM 10 rounds, 15 rounds...it doesnt matter. the bronx bull will keep coming forward, eating as many right hands that he has to, to get the win.
Rockin, put me down for a 250 point(yea i know i'm a poor boy) bet on the Bronx Bull.(TKO10).
Light Heavyweights
Michael Moorer will look to pound Michael Spinks into submission in this Light heavyweight title fight.
My suggestion for Moorer is to get on a "low carb" diet fast. He might have some trouble in making the lightheavyweight limit.
Mick Hucknall 03-26-2005, 11:40 AM can you do Foreman vs Lewis or Vitali Klit. That would be an interesting fight.
PessimisticPug 03-26-2005, 12:55 PM Rockin, put me down for a 250 point(yea i know i'm a poor boy) bet on the Bronx Bull.(TKO10).
I will cover that bet for MWCOFSU, unless somebody else would like to get in the action. Rumblin' Rockin' Productions
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COME ONE, COME ALL TO THE GREATEST FIGHTS THE WORLD HAS EVER SEEN. Do you think that the Japenese dropped alot of bombs at Pearl Harbor. Do you think that the Sherman tank is the only unstoppable force on ground. Well, think again!!!! Thomas "The HitMan" Hearns will be dropping bombs that would make the Japs envious. Jake "The Raging Bull" Lamotta will try to work his way through those bombs like the sherman tank that he is. It goes down tomorrow night after 10P.M. Yup, ITS ON!!!!!!!!! And your not going to want to miss any of this action as 2 of the great fighters of our past prepare to throw down hard. Oh yeah,.......ITS ON!!!!!!!!!!
Bets are being excepted at this time. If you would like to place a wager on this bout, please first read the payout procedure posted earlier in this thread, just notify me or post it on the site. Rumblin' Rockin' Productions was put on this earth to bring you the greatest fighters of all, displaying the fistic fury that you are sure to love........... :boxing: Rockin
Truth 03-26-2005, 01:10 PM i dont understand :confused:
LOL I was lost at first too. :D
PessimisticPug 03-26-2005, 01:27 PM Rumblin' Rockin' Productions wants everybody to enjoy themselves as they sit in the best seat in the house witnessing the greatest fighters that the world has ever known punching their ways to the top of the all-time greats lists. If you have any questions or concerns , please feel free to contact R.R.Productions. Your questions/concerns will be handled with dignity and confidentialy......... :boxing: Rumblin' Rockin' Productions
Kid Achilles 03-26-2005, 03:38 PM Rockin,
I'm putting 10,000 points on Jake.
As for the round length, it's gotta be the full fifteen. A championship length fight for two awesome champions!
I am actually getting pretty psyched about this!
I'm putting 10,000 points on Jake.
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WOW. Big spender. :rolleyes:
I gave a user 100,000 points for simply having 1 post. And I continue to give others hundreds of thousands at random incident.
Do you think the jaws of life are needed to pry your bank vault open? After all what the hell are you going to do with those points Achilles? You never change your name/title, I doubt you are a thief, and I have never seen a sticky post from you.
Sorry, Im just kidding. Felt like giving you a hard time right now. :)
TIGHTWAD!
PessimisticPug 03-26-2005, 04:11 PM Rockin,
I'm putting 10,000 points on Jake.
Got ya covered kid achilles, thanks for the input......... :boxing: Rockin'
MWCOFSU 03-26-2005, 04:49 PM Anyone gonna throw some money down on Hearns?
No one think the MotorCity Cobra could've taken LaMotta?
PessimisticPug 03-27-2005, 01:42 PM Both sides go to war before first bell even rings
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While talks continued about the proposed length of the middleweight title bout between Thonas Hearns and Jake Lamotta it was obviousthat neither side wanted to back down or give the other ground. Emmanuel Steward, one to always stand for his fighters cause was very angry that it would even come to this.
Sitting before the Michigan Professional Boxing Commision Steward told of how the fight was made. "I signed, and then Tommy signed, a contract that stipulated that the bout would be for 12 rounds." Emmanuel lifted the contract from the table and presented it to the boxing commisioner. Brad Wright, Michigans boxing commisioner, excepted the contract from Emmanuel and read its ingredients. Looking up from the paper Wright said, "Well, it clearly states that this is to be a 12 round fight, obviously that is what Emmanuel and Thomas agreed to.
At that point, Joe LaMotta, jumped from his chair with a contract of his own in his right hand held high into the air. "Thats Bull**** your hon.....". Wright quickly calmed Joe and reminded him of who he was talking to. Joe calmly continued, "I have the same contract here that they signed that says that its to be a 15 round title fight, who ever heard of a 12 round title fight?" Brad was given the contract and looked it over. "Well, this contract states that it is to be a 15 round title fight. I do not understand how this can be however, both contracts are signed but both contracts are entirely different when it comes to the length of the bout."
Wright, spoke quietly with the official for the nights bout, Frank Garcia, seated next to Wright as he nodded his head up and down as the 2 conversed. Wright finally stood and addressed the press and crowd of on lookers. "This is a tough situation that we have here. Both parties are animent about the length of the bout that they want. I will need some time to discuss this with the other board members and I will get back to you.
As Wright finished,a well dressed man jumped from his seat amongst the on lookers shouting, "You ain't **** Hearns, take da fight and eat your lumps as you should." The well dressed man was none other than Frankie Carbo. Sitting besides him, smiling, was one James Norris the owner of the Olympia Stadium.
With both sides threatening to back out of the fight it is a vrey tough situation indeed. Only 9 hours are left until this war in the ring is to be waged. Hearns looking for 12 rounds and LaMotta is looking for 15. Stay tuned as details are found they will certainly be past directly to you.......Rumblin' Rockin' Productions :boxing:
manila_assasin 03-27-2005, 01:43 PM The raging BULLL> :)
dodge 03-27-2005, 02:09 PM LaMotta by ko 7. 20k on LaMotta.
Oh ****, I forgot that this fight was taking place in Michigan. Ok, I'm changing my pick from "LaMotta TKO-9" to "LaMotta falls behind in the early goings, but comes back to drop Hearns a number of times in the mid/late rounds. But the referee helps Hearns up each and every time, gives him a five minutes rest break after each one, thus enabling Hearns to last the distance. The judge's, who fell asleep during many of those KD breaks and often through the actual action, score the fight as follows; 147-136 Hearns, 149-133 LaMotta, and 150-130 Hearns...What the hell?"
Damn that corrupt Michigan officiating!
BrooklynBomber 03-27-2005, 03:06 PM Well my money is on LaMotta. We are from the same town so you know what Im saying
1 mil on LaMotta. And where do I bet?
m00ks 03-27-2005, 04:14 PM Rockin, 5 million on Hearns UD.
The Fix 03-27-2005, 04:51 PM i got hearns by ud for 2 milly
PessimisticPug 03-27-2005, 05:57 PM LaMotta by ko 7. 20k on LaMotta.
Got ya down for 20k on lamotta........Rockin'
PessimisticPug 03-27-2005, 05:59 PM Well my money is on LaMotta. We are from the same town so you know what Im saying
1 mil on LaMotta. And where do I bet?
your down for 1 mill on lamotta...........Rockin'
PessimisticPug 03-27-2005, 06:00 PM Rockin, 5 million on Hearns UD.
your down for 5 mil on hearns.......Rockin'
PessimisticPug 03-27-2005, 06:01 PM i got hearns by ud for 2 milly
your down for 2 mil on hearns.........Rockin'
PessimisticPug 03-27-2005, 06:08 PM ******ATTENTION_ FOR ALL BETS PLACED******************
For all bets placed to become finalized the amount bet will need to be donated into my account before the throw down takes place. After the bout is finished I will pay out the proper winnings to the people who picked the winner. Remember, Rumblin' Rockin' Productions will take no piece of the action. Every point that was bet will be paid out after the winner has been announced. Thank you for your participation and best of luck.
The bets are still open at this time. At this point it looks that hearns is a 6 to 1 favorite in the betting. The odds will change as bets are placed and payout will be calculated at the start of the fight. Good luck and LETS GET IT ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thankyou,
Rumblin' Rockin' Productions
m00ks 03-27-2005, 06:11 PM 5000000.00 points donated to Rockin1 successfully!
PessimisticPug 03-27-2005, 06:20 PM 5000000.00 points donated to Rockin1 successfully!
Done deal, good man........Rockin'
The Fix 03-27-2005, 06:45 PM 2000000.00 points donated to Rockin1 successfully!
PessimisticPug 03-27-2005, 07:12 PM 2000000.00 points donated to Rockin1 successfully!
All set, thanks.....Rumblin' Rockin' Productions
Kid Achilles 03-27-2005, 07:27 PM 100,000 points (on Jake) sent!
PessimisticPug 03-27-2005, 07:35 PM Got ya set Kid, thanks for the participation........Rumblin' Rockin' Productions
PessimisticPug 03-27-2005, 08:53 PM ********Bout duration announced and officials switched after allegations of corruption.*******
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Brad Wright, being the honest and meticuless commisioner that he is, got to the bottom quickly on the contract dispute between the Hearns Camp and the LaMotta camp. After recieving an anonymous phone call with allegations of fraud, Wright was able to get to the bottom of the 2 contracts being different. "It seems that somebody....", Wright did not want to name names but the caller identified Blinky Plamermo,"... had torn the final page of the contract away and replaced the page with a different page containing a different amount of rounds" Wright went on to say that the bout would be set for 12 rounds as Emmanuel Steward had been led to believe.
Along with this news, Wright was confronted by his 3 judges for the fight with allegations of being approached in the demand to score Lamotta the winner if it should go to the cards. Wright was quick to take action on the matter. "As soon as I heard the news of my officials being approached I immediately called the National Governing Body on the matter and instantly called 3 new officials to fly in on short notice to judge the fight. This fight will go down on even ground for both men, may the best man win."
Questions were asked by the press as to who the Referee would be in the bout. Wright had it all taken care of and was in complete control, "I spoke with Frank about the matter. He said that he was not approached by anybody and that he would handle the bout as he always has many others, with dignity and pride in doing the right things. Frank is an honest, genuine, and dignified man. If he says that he was not approached then I feel 100% confident that he was not and 100% confident in the knowledge that he will do an outstanding job in handling this bout." Wright went on to appologize for the recent happenings surrounding the bout and promised that everything will go down on an even playing field. Wright is one that will bring pride back to the michigan professional boxing.
Aswell Wright has forbidden Frankie Carbo, Blinky Palermo as well as arena owner James Norris from attending the bout tonight. "These guys were pointed out as being involved in this. They will not attend the bout and if I had my way, they wouldnt even be allowed in the same state as the bout." Wrights 3 new judges for the fight will be flown in shortly. For security purposes their names are being with held.
10 pm is when the bout is set to take place. History will be made tonight as only Rumblin' Rockin' Promotions continues to bring you the best the boxing world has to offer.
Thankyou,
Rumblin' Rockin' Promotions :boxing:
PessimisticPug 03-27-2005, 09:26 PM *******Rumblin' Rockin' Productions********
9:20 pm- Both fighters entered the building a short while ago and have begun preparing fot the fight of the century.Emmanuel Steward looked very pleased as he and Thomas Hearns entered the arena.Athey entered, Jake LaMotta entered from another door on the other side of the arena. As they passed, LaMotta began calling hearns a ***** for only fighting for 10 rounds. Hearns smiled, winked and blew Jake a wet kiss as they passed. Only LaMottas handlers kept Jakefrom throwing punches at that point. Both then entered their dressing rooms and have not been seen since. The undercard is begining to wind down and we anxiously await the time that the these two legendary warriors will stare acrossed the ring at eachother awaiting the bell. As of this time Hearns has become a heavy betting favorite. As it stands a LaMotta bet could bring as much as 5 points for every point bet. That is if he can stop the Hitman from hittin'. Get your bets in as the bout is set to begin in just about 30 minutes.
Rumblin' Rockin' Promotions :boxing:
100,000 on LamoTTA
if it is not too late. Dammit. I think it is though. :mad:
PessimisticPug 03-27-2005, 09:37 PM 100,000 on LamoTTA
if it is not too late. Dammit. I think it is though. :mad:
I got your bet runsw/knives. Thanks for participating.
Donate it in my account if you would be so kind. Take care man.........Rockin'
You cant get me down.....Ray. Im still standing.
Please.
Lets hear:
You cant get me down Tommy. Im still standing, then comes the bull.
PessimisticPug 03-27-2005, 09:46 PM The fights on and all bets are in........Rumblin' Rockin' Productions :boxing:
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