catskills23
03-25-2005, 05:32 PM
Mike Tyson without a doubt , danny williams said he punches much harder than vitali .
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View Full Version : Hardest puncher in todays heavyweight division ? . catskills23 03-25-2005, 05:32 PM Mike Tyson without a doubt , danny williams said he punches much harder than vitali . spinksjinx 03-25-2005, 05:34 PM Sam Peter David Tua Corrie Sanders But to be fair, any guy over 200 pounds who hits you isnt going to feel pretty. catskills23 03-25-2005, 05:59 PM Why is mike tyson not on your list ? . mECHsLAVE 03-25-2005, 06:06 PM Not to say Tyson doesn't have alot of power, but Williams took plenty of bombs from Tyson and never went down- Vitali put him down with one shot (and that one little hook he put him down with was incredible). Vitali's punches are deceptive- they don't look that good- but they are hard. It's really hard to say who has the hardest punch. When a punch from most HW's land clean in the right spot on their opponent, it can make any of them look like they hit the hardest on any given day. MetalVomit 03-25-2005, 06:17 PM Mike Tyson without a doubt , danny williams said he punches much harder than vitali . no-chin Wlad Klitschko has got some heat on his hands for sure. catskills23 03-25-2005, 06:18 PM No way dose vitali hit harder than tyson , williams himself said that tyson hits harder . tino 03-25-2005, 06:19 PM no-chin Wlad Klitschko has got some heat on his hands for sure. damn right , i m not a fan at all but he hits hard , has good punching technic and put his punches togheter well . Kimmy 03-25-2005, 06:41 PM No way dose vitali hit harder than tyson , williams himself said that tyson hits harder . So if Williams told you that he`d beat Ali in his prime you`d believe it? Just cos a fighter claims something, doesn`t make it true! On that ticket, Evander Holyfield claimed that Bowe and Foreman hit harder than Tyson....so you`d have to believe that too cos a fighter said it! catskills23 03-25-2005, 06:41 PM Wald still dosent hit harder than tyson . AintGottaClue 03-25-2005, 06:41 PM we all better say tyson or catskillz will start whinning like a little ***** dustymoo 03-25-2005, 07:15 PM Rachman's got a say in it too i reckon! Martin (Top Knowledge) 03-25-2005, 07:23 PM I say definatly David Tua... That little f**ker can BANG! Slipx 03-25-2005, 08:52 PM im gonna have to go with etienne...absolute punching power monster he is. :) jk Kid Achilles 03-25-2005, 09:09 PM Who the hell has Tyson knocked out recently to deserve mention on this list? No one. He couldn't even KO Williams with his best punches yet Vitali's own blows made William's knees buckle and they weren't even technically sound punches with bodyweight behind them. Has anyone seen the Tyson- Brian Nielson fight? Nielson just stood there absorbing Tysons best punches and ocassionally clinching and hitting back. If Tyson were truly the devastating puncher his nuthuggers say he is, he would have KO'ed Nielson. Instead it was a boring fight where Nielson's eye was eventually cut and he quit. Tyson is overrated as a puncher. Yes, even in his prime. He hit hard, but not as hard as Frank Bruno,Lennox Lewis, Mike Weaver, Razor Ruddock, Tim Witherspoon etc. What set Tyson apart was his defense and his handspeed mixed with above average heavyweight power. Tyson landed all of his best shots with incredibly speed and accuracy. Watch some of Ali's earliest fights, when he was at his quickest, and you'll see him knock down and knock out quite a few guy with quick punches that came out of nowhere. Ali was not a big puncher, but he hit hard enough, coupled with his speed and accuracy, to rack up some KO's. Tyson is the same way, except he does hit significantly harder than Ali did. Still, he was never the very hardest puncher in the world at any time. If Tyson really had the power of a George Foreman,Corrie Sanders, or Lennox Lewis, or even a Wladimir Kltichsko, he would have had many more one punch KO's. He would have also probably killed someone. freirui 03-25-2005, 09:24 PM Wladimir Klitschko without a doubt,Roach said Wlad hits harder than Tyson. PBDS 03-25-2005, 09:24 PM Sam Peter David Tua Corrie Sanders But to be fair, any guy over 200 pounds who hits you isnt going to feel pretty. ....Roach says Wlad punches harder that Aluminum Mike!!!! Enayze 03-25-2005, 10:33 PM Mike Tyson without a doubt , danny williams said he punches much harder than vitali . Dont hype up what Williams said. He claimed Mike punched a bit harder but Vitali was more consistent. No where did he claim Mike punched "much" harder. Mike also couldn't manage to knock down Williams even once, when Vitali did it 4 times. Enayze 03-25-2005, 10:34 PM Wald still dosent hit harder than tyson . According to Freddie Roach and a couple of other trainers who worked with both fighters, Wladimir does punch harder. And I would take proffesional trainers words over you'rs anyday. The Fix 03-25-2005, 10:50 PM david tua or one of the klits. even though i dont like the klits i admit they have a ton of power. rahman has good power to spinksjinx 03-25-2005, 10:56 PM Tyson is a hard hitter no doubt about it, but the only guys he knocked out was the ones who was scared of him.. Fear defeated his opponents, they were already defeated before they went into the ring. !! Anorak 03-26-2005, 06:21 AM I'd take Danny Williams's word as he seems an honest guy and it's against a Muslim's religion to deceive. But all that tells us is that Tyson hits harder than Vitali with single punches. In one quote Williams described Tyson's power as "once in a lifetime" but then I've also read him saying he's met a harder puncher - Mark Potter. marvelous_TG 03-26-2005, 06:59 AM peter,tyson,wlad,tua who is comming back. Mick Hucknall 03-26-2005, 07:29 AM i'd also say one of the Klits or David Tua. Danny Williams must of not been able to think right after he got KTFO by Vitali. elveiel 03-26-2005, 07:43 AM I'd take Danny Williams's word as he seems an honest guy and it's against a Muslim's religion to deceive. But all that tells us is that Tyson hits harder than Vitali with single punches. In one quote Williams described Tyson's power as "once in a lifetime" but then I've also read him saying he's met a harder puncher - Mark Potter. Mark Potter punches harder than Mike Tyson?? :eek: Truth 03-26-2005, 09:43 AM Mike Tyson still has the best punch in heavyweight boxing in my opinion. ejk22 03-26-2005, 10:08 AM David Tua (just ask huggy bear) Sam Peter Mike Tyson Wlad Klitschko thekid 03-26-2005, 10:15 AM David Tua : 19 second 1st Round KO of John Ruiz 12 toe-toe rounds with Ike Joe Louis Rocky Marciano ejk22 03-26-2005, 10:16 AM **** I forgot to put Sanders on my list, I'll substitute Wlad for Sanders because Sanders is ****ing devastating with his left. marvelous_TG 03-26-2005, 12:10 PM **** I forgot to put Sanders on my list, I'll substitute Wlad for Sanders because Sanders is ****ing devastating with his left. sanders is retired paul750 03-26-2005, 01:01 PM Tua, Rahman,the klitchko's, sam peter,dominic guinn, sinan samil sam spinksjinx 03-26-2005, 01:04 PM Paul-I agree with majority on your list, but Rahman and Sanil Sam? paul750 03-26-2005, 01:07 PM Paul-I agree with majority on your list, but Rahman and Sanil Sam? yeah samil sam knocked out danny williams in six rounds [two rounds quicker than vitali] with brutal punches, and rahman's right hand has got to be one of the most powerful punches out there when it lands flush spinksjinx 03-26-2005, 01:10 PM I wont really disagree with you, because both are big guys and well anyone that size can punch reasonably hard. But I always looked at Rahman (and a lot of the heavyweights in this era) As volume punchers, prime example for Rahman would be against Meehan my lord that guy took a million punches and never went down. Either he has one tough chin or Rahman wasnt putting much because he was throwing left and right and left and right and Meehan didnt go down. BBFM 03-26-2005, 01:51 PM No Arguements it has to be tyson he hits so hard. Palma 03-26-2005, 06:32 PM vitali tyson tua MlLkMan 03-26-2005, 07:43 PM Klitchko brothers? !! Anorak 03-26-2005, 07:46 PM Mark Potter punches harder than Mike Tyson?? :eek:So Danny said. As for Rahman and Meehan... Danny KOed him in 32 seconds. Danny was sick and unfocussed against Sam (who wobbled him, didn't KO him - his corner threw in the towel and Danny sacked them) SacTown1 03-26-2005, 08:38 PM FINALLY, somebody gets the right answer.... RAHMAN!!!!! He took out Lennox with 1 shot SacTown1 03-26-2005, 08:41 PM FINALLY, somebody gets the right answer.... RAHMAN!!!!! He took out Lennox with 1 shot I'll put Rahman's overhand-right up against any one-punch from any other heavyweight, that includes any punch that the Quit-schko's or Aluminum Mike may throw Martin (Top Knowledge) 03-26-2005, 08:41 PM FINALLY, somebody gets the right answer.... RAHMAN!!!!! He took out Lennox with 1 shot I remember Tua banging Rahman all over the ring... SacTown1 03-26-2005, 08:42 PM I remember Tua banging Rahman all over the ring... what's that got to do with punching power? plus both of those guys were kids when they fought, Rahman is much bigger and stronger now plus, you musta missed the Rahman-Tua Rematch, where TUA got crushed for 10 out of 12 rounds spinksjinx 03-26-2005, 09:15 PM what's that got to do with punching power? plus both of those guys were kids when they fought, Rahman is much bigger and stronger now plus, you musta missed the Rahman-Tua Rematch, where TUA got crushed for 10 out of 12 rounds Kids? The fought in 2003. dodge 03-26-2005, 09:17 PM Wladimir Klitschko jack_the_rippuh 03-26-2005, 10:12 PM Why do most of you think Tua hits harder than Tyson? spinksjinx 03-26-2005, 10:17 PM Why do most of you think Tua hits harder than Tyson? John Ruiz.... Tua didnt strick fear into his opponents and knocked their asses silly. Mikes opponents were scared and defeated before stepping into the ring, everytime someone stood up to him he lost. I have no clue who hits harder than who and I am not about to find out either but with Tyson's speed in his prime I would pick Tyson to be the heavy hitter out of the two. jack_the_rippuh 03-26-2005, 10:19 PM Tua's KOing people was deceptive in its own way, also....most of 'em were come from behind on the cards - when the other fighter goes into cruise control - KOs. Mike Tyson just tried to intimidate people. spinksjinx 03-26-2005, 10:22 PM because Tyson showed his power against complete bums. he never knocked out a real fighter. Tua has knocked out so many, I lost count. You crazy, Mike lost to the top names but he knocked out credible opponents. Berbick Holmes Tubbs SPINKS Bruno Ruddock Botha Golota Tua Ruiz Izon Rahman Moorer Oquendo Ouch I dont know, they are both pretty ****ty but Tua did knockout Ruiz. spinksjinx 03-26-2005, 10:27 PM Fear had always been his biggest weapon. I will say, when he was 19-25, he hit like a freight train. He still does. I just think he scared his opponents into quitting. With the exception of the obvious....like Pinklon Thomas etc....Tua's left hook is harder than Mike's IMO. Only because of the caliber of opponents he faced. Wladimir Klitschko would be just as impressive against the same competition Tyson fought. That is for sure. He would have knocked Bonecrusher Smith OUT COLD. We talking before or after the Sanders fight? Id rate Davarryl below Smith. spinksjinx 03-26-2005, 10:36 PM Good question. I suppose before the Sanders fight. His size is just ridiculous though, and punches are straight and crisp. Bonecrusher was so 1 dimmensional he would have played into Wlad's hands. Before Sanders I would favor Wlad almost over anyone, he would kill Smith with confidence. RwK 03-26-2005, 10:39 PM Before Sanders I would favor Wlad almost over anyone, he would kill Smith with confidence. If he fought the exact same fighters Mike did, in their careers....Wlad would be undefeated untill he faced Lewis. No doubt. He would have knocked Douglas, Holy, etc...smooth out. That is just My opinion though. More than likely I could be wrong. I also could be wrong about Tua hitting harder than Tyson. I just think his power is overrated. He was dangerous in other areas.....like instilling fear in his opponent. That is why Etienne did not rise from the canvas. He was scared of Mike. stepmonster 03-26-2005, 11:50 PM if danny williams said tyson hits harder, i believe the guy. he has no biases towards tyson, and in the second or third round i forget which one, williams was out on his feet but he held on to tyson. tyson had him where he wantedhim but then the leg..... spinksjinx 03-27-2005, 12:00 AM If he fought the exact same fighters Mike did, in their careers....Wlad would be undefeated untill he faced Lewis. No doubt. He would have knocked Douglas, Holy, etc...smooth out. That is just My opinion though. More than likely I could be wrong. I also could be wrong about Tua hitting harder than Tyson. I just think his power is overrated. He was dangerous in other areas.....like instilling fear in his opponent. That is why Etienne did not rise from the canvas. He was scared of Mike. I dont know if he would be able to beat Douglas, Douglas would have stood up to the world that night. I know it is a cliche now but Douglas boxed so beautifully...But then again comparing Tyson to Wladimir style wise is like apples and oranges. So it is hard to tell. dodge 03-27-2005, 12:29 AM Tyson punches harder than Tua imo. dodge 03-27-2005, 12:32 AM I bet Wlad punches harder than Tua or Tyson. Stickman 03-27-2005, 12:38 AM Vladimir Klitchko probably has the biggest one-punch KO power in the division today....Hate to tell you Vlad-haters that, but it's fact. Tyson has a good solid shot, but big single punches aren't his key to success. His key is that he's able to move inside in a flash, and unload a blinding combination of very hard shots from both hands, with lignthing speed, and wicked accuracy. He's better at that particular tactic than any other heavyweight ever to have walked the planet. And no, Mike doesn't hit harder than David Tua. They may be close, but Tua hits harder. Vitali Klitchko hits hard, but he doesn't really set down on his punches like many smaller heavyweights. He uses punch volume, rather than power. And because of his size, all his punches are fairly hard anyway, even arm punches, and they take a big toll really quick. He has a higher work rate and better accuracy than any big guy to come along in many years, and standing in front of him for 3 or 4 rounds is worse than standing in front of Tyson with your hands at your sides for 10 seconds. With Tyson, at least you're out and the fight is over...with Klitchko, you're just getting brutalized constantly until you're too badly swollen and bloody to continue. BBFM 03-27-2005, 04:48 AM Ask Lennox, Rahman. !! Anorak 03-27-2005, 08:25 AM Are we still talking about Rahman? He sucker punched an overweight, unmotivated Lennox Lewis who could hardly breathe at the altitude. His last bout saw him take four rounds to TKO an opponent who Danny Williams had beat in less than a minute. freirui 03-27-2005, 10:17 AM Vladimir Klitchko probably has the biggest one-punch KO power in the division today....Hate to tell you Vlad-haters that, but it's fact. Tyson has a good solid shot, but big single punches aren't his key to success. His key is that he's able to move inside in a flash, and unload a blinding combination of very hard shots from both hands, with lignthing speed, and wicked accuracy. He's better at that particular tactic than any other heavyweight ever to have walked the planet. And no, Mike doesn't hit harder than David Tua. They may be close, but Tua hits harder. Vitali Klitchko hits hard, but he doesn't really set down on his punches like many smaller heavyweights. He uses punch volume, rather than power. And because of his size, all his punches are fairly hard anyway, even arm punches, and they take a big toll really quick. He has a higher work rate and better accuracy than any big guy to come along in many years, and standing in front of him for 3 or 4 rounds is worse than standing in front of Tyson with your hands at your sides for 10 seconds. With Tyson, at least you're out and the fight is over...with Klitchko, you're just getting brutalized constantly until you're too badly swollen and bloody to continue. Agree 100% with your opinions!!! RwK 03-27-2005, 10:29 AM Ask Lennox, Rahman. When he was around. He was the hardest puncher in the division IMO. Bigger puncher than Tyson because of his size. Maybe not the "1 punch" power that came from Tyson scaring his opponents silly. Lewis knocked some decent names out in the first round. :eek: His overhand right was ridiculous to say the least. paul750 03-27-2005, 10:55 AM So Danny said. As for Rahman and Meehan... Danny KOed him in 32 seconds. Danny was sick and unfocussed against Sam (who wobbled him, didn't KO him - his corner threw in the towel and Danny sacked them) sam had williams all over the ring, if that fight wasn't stopped danny could have been seriously hurt, a fight can never be stopped too early epecially when a fighter is taking a brutal beating like that !! Anorak 03-27-2005, 10:59 AM I'd like to see that fight again. I got the impression that it wasn't Sam being good or hitting particularly hard (though the Williams camp did admit they'd underestimated him) more than Williams was just crap that night. paul750 03-27-2005, 11:06 AM I'd like to see that fight again. I got the impression that it wasn't Sam being good or hitting particularly hard (though the Williams camp did admit they'd underestimated him) more than Williams was just crap that night. williams started the first few rounds quite well, but one sam got him it was over, it looked like a terrible beating in the end, sam must punch pretty hard to have had williams like that, i think the point williams was trying to make was he would rather be knocked out cold than to quit, but i believe the corner that night made a very good decision, much better than his klitchko fight where it went on too long The Troll 03-27-2005, 11:58 AM Vitali Klistcko Wladimir KListcko Oleg Maskeaev Mike Tyson Lennox Lewis (he is not really retired, I guarantee. dangerousity 03-27-2005, 05:31 PM I a fighter saying one fighter hits harder over another has more truth than saying he can beat someone. Williams would boost his ego in saying he can beat someone but he has nothing to gain ins aying Tyson hit harder than vitali. Just for the record if someone hasnt mentioned already. Freddie Roach said punch for punch W.klitschko hits harder than Tyson, Tyson is more explosive. PBDS 03-27-2005, 08:06 PM Agree 100% with your opinions!!! ....damn good analysis on that post and I agree also. Vitali doesn't sit down on his punches because he doesn't need to due to the fact that he is so damn strong even when throwing half hard punches that he takes guys apart that way. He also doesn't want to over commit and leave himself exposed. Guys get so brutalized when they face him because they take a cumalitive beating instead of a quick death from a one punch guy. I also think that it appears that his opponents don't even realize they are hurt against Vit sometimes until they are sitting on the canvas with a bewildered look on their face. He bludgeons them into submission and IMO that is far worse for his opponents. catskills23 03-28-2005, 03:32 PM How would freddie roach know who hits harder between wald and tyson when he never was hit by either wald or tyson ? . Kid Achilles 03-28-2005, 05:20 PM You can see and hear the impact of a boxer's punches as he hits the heavybag and his opponents in sparring. Roach also holds the mitts for his fighters ocassionally so I would take his word. It's no big deal, there were and are a lot of guys who hit as harder or harder than Tyson in the 80's, 90's, and present. Tyson's power wasn't his best asset, it was just one of many. NiGe2011 03-28-2005, 05:31 PM Tough to say based on who the current batch is, but Sam Peter has shown one punch KO power and he gets cats out of there in a hurry! Tha_Greatest 03-28-2005, 05:45 PM Lets get Tyson out this topic,hes never knocked out a true contender, the best fighter hes knocked out was Golota. The tough fights hes had, he was the man to go down ,like with Holyfield, Lewis and hes been down against against stiffs like Douglas and Williams. Tua is the Hardest Puncher SacTown1 03-28-2005, 05:59 PM Rahman is far and away the best puncher in the division, nobody else even compares Peter is a stud but a KO win vs. Jeremy Williams or Yanqui Diaz doesn't prove squat Klitschko has good technique but he gets KO's from repitition Tyson is 90 years old Tha_Greatest 03-28-2005, 06:07 PM Rahman is far and away the best puncher in the division, nobody else even compares Peter is a stud but a KO win vs. Jeremy Williams or Yanqui Diaz doesn't prove squat Klitschko has good technique but he gets KO's from repitition Tyson is 90 years old Tyson isnt like 90 years old. Give him a little more credit than that. Hes more like 70 SacTown1 03-28-2005, 06:51 PM Tyson isnt like 90 years old. Give him a little more credit than that. Hes more like 70 alright he's a young 90 :) dangerousity 03-28-2005, 08:17 PM How would freddie roach know who hits harder between wald and tyson when he never was hit by either wald or tyson ? . He can feel it when they hit the mitts. Also I think a coach would know who hits harder out of his students. As for never being hit by Tyson, he said he has...everything went dark :D Kimmy 03-28-2005, 08:42 PM The quality of punch should be judged apon the opponent it stopped. Like Tua knocked out Moorer in 30 seconds but we know Moorer is chinny. But Tua did Ruiz in 16 seconds and Golota couldn`t do it. Tyson has knocked everyone out he was supposed to but couldn` Kimmy 03-28-2005, 08:48 PM The quality of punch should be judged apon the opponent it stopped. Like Tua knocked out Moorer in 30 seconds but we know Moorer is chinny. But Tua did Ruiz in 16 seconds and Golota couldn`t do it. Tyson has knocked everyone out he was supposed to but couldn`t dent Lewis or Holyfield. He hit hard but not the hardest. Klitscko i believe isn`t the hardest puncher. He is very accurate and lately punches in bunches, this gets his KO percentage high but does if show killer power, NO! Sam peter hasn`t fought anyone yet and Rahman is only right hand, no other additional power shots. The right hand was useless against a 39 yr old Evander, so is Rahman so great? NO Wlad Klitscko? He couldn`t stop Chris Byrd ( and Byrd had been stopped before ) and KO wins over Axel Scluch, Monte Barrett and a 40yr old Mercer don`t cut it. I believe until he retired Lennox was the hardest puncher in the heavies of the 90`s. Nowadays......well, why not James Toney. he`s blown up Middleweight but he gets KO`s. But seriously. David Tua i think has the hardest SINGLE shot in todays heavyweights! += El Jefe=+ 03-28-2005, 09:02 PM My Boy and Heavyweight hope SAMUEL PETER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! RwK 03-28-2005, 09:09 PM My Boy and Heavyweight hope SAMUEL PETER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There is no denying that. He does hit harder than anyone in the heavyweight division IMO. He is exactly as his nickname says: "the nigerian nightmare". Only thing I have a problem with, is his workrate. Until he lands a shot, his fights are usually boring. Hardest Hitter no doubt. freirui 03-29-2005, 04:54 AM Peter???give me a break Peter doesn't hit as hard as Wlad,Sanders or Tua,not even close. freirui 03-29-2005, 08:36 AM How would freddie roach know who hits harder between wald and tyson when he never was hit by either wald or tyson ? . Both Freddie Roach and Tommy Brooks said Wladimir Klitschko hits harder than Tyson. catskills23 03-29-2005, 03:29 PM Tyson still is the hardest hitter in the division regardless of what roach and brooks say , who has wald ever knocked out to suggest he is a big hitter, he couldnt even knockout glass chinned sanders . For those who dont think tyson hits is a huge puncher listen to what some of his opponents have said about his power . Bruno said that tyson had nuclear powered fists, tubbs said tyson hit like a jack hammer and was by far the hardest hitter he ever faced . Larry holmes says that cooney hit harder than tyson but why is it then that cooney couldnt put a dent in spinks and tyson put him on the canvas twice in 90 seconds . Tyson at age of 13 was reckoned to hit harder than the average heavyweight this is before he even learned to punch properly , at the age of 13 and not knowing how to punch properly he able to break a fullygrowm man amateur boxer bobby stewart nose with a jab , in his prime he often staggered fighters with his , dont try and tell me that a guy who couldnt knock down glass chinned sanders hits harder than tyson . Even boxing historians and experts acknowleged that tyson is one of the hardest hitters in boxing history . Eddie futch said that tysons power is comparable with sonny liston and george foreman . oldgringo 03-29-2005, 03:32 PM Tyson still is the hardest hitter in the division regardless of what roach and brooks say , who has wald ever knocked out to suggest he is a big hitter, he couldnt even knockout glass chinned sanders . For those who dont think tyson hits is a huge puncher listen to what some of his opponents have said about his power . Bruno said that tyson had nuclear powered fists, tubbs said tyson hit like a jack hammer and was by far the hardest hitter he ever faced . Larry holmes says that cooney hit harder than tyson but why is it then that cooney couldnt put a dent in spinks and tyson put him on the canvas twice in 90 seconds . Tyson at age of 13 was reckoned to hit harder than the average heavyweight this is before he even learned to punch properly , at the age of 13 and not knowing how to punch properly he able to break a fullygrowm man amateur boxer bobby stewart nose with a jab , in his prime he often staggered fighters with his , dont try and tell me that a guy who couldnt knock down glass chinned sanders hits harder than tyson . Even boxing historians and experts acknowleged that tyson is one of the hardest hitters in boxing history . Eddie futch said that tysons power is comparable with sonny liston and george foreman . Heh........... The Troll 03-29-2005, 03:40 PM I will say Klistcko because his knockout percentage is almost 100%, 34KO's in 35 wins. paul750 03-29-2005, 03:44 PM I will say Klistcko because his knockout percentage is almost 100%, 34KO's in 35 wins. klitchko knocks guys out because of the number of pucnches he throws, but he's not the hardest hitter with one punch, it's like danny williams said, he's consistant with his punches Kid Achilles 03-29-2005, 07:22 PM "Tyson still is the hardest hitter in the division regardless of what roach and brooks say , who has wald ever knocked out to suggest he is a big hitter, he couldnt even knockout glass chinned sanders . For those who dont think tyson hits is a huge puncher listen to what some of his opponents have said about his power . Bruno said that tyson had nuclear powered fists, tubbs said tyson hit like a jack hammer and was by far the hardest hitter he ever faced . Larry holmes says that cooney hit harder than tyson but why is it then that cooney couldnt put a dent in spinks and tyson put him on the canvas twice in 90 seconds . Tyson at age of 13 was reckoned to hit harder than the average heavyweight this is before he even learned to punch properly , at the age of 13 and not knowing how to punch properly he able to break a fullygrowm man amateur boxer bobby stewart nose with a jab , in his prime he often staggered fighters with his , dont try and tell me that a guy who couldnt knock down glass chinned sanders hits harder than tyson . Even boxing historians and experts acknowleged that tyson is one of the hardest hitters in boxing history . Eddie futch said that tysons power is comparable with sonny liston and george foreman ." Bonecrusher Smith said that both Mike Weaver and Frank Bruno hit harder than Tyson in a recent interview in the Ring magazine. Freddie Roach says Wlad hits harder than Tyson. Peter McNeely said that Tyson had the quickest hands of anyone he had fought but wasn't the hardest puncher. Razor Ruddock said that Mike Weaver hit harder than Tyson. Larry Holmes said the same on his message board. Tyson was a hard puncher but he wasn't the hardest puncher. He probably hit about as hard as Samuel Peters. It's possible that he didnt even hit that hard. Why is this so difficult for you to accept? With handspeed like his he would have been putting guys into comas if he had Foreman's or Shavers's punch. He would have killed someone. Mike had incredibly fast hands, great reflexes, a solid chin, and good power. His weaknesses were less than great stamina, surprisingly (for his height) underdeveloped infighting skills, poor height and reach, and a lack of confidence in himself. That was prime Mike in a nutshell. Slipx 03-29-2005, 07:27 PM Seriously, I consider Sanders one of the hardest (if not THE hardest) punchers. Why? Because speed=power, and he easily has the fastest hands in the division. He would've been an extreme threat to the division if he had the Eye when he was young. You saw what he did to Wlad. Everyone always asks where he gets the power from, I was curious about it myself so I did a little looking around and found out that he has been participating in Golf for a really long time. I put 2 and 2 together, the golf swing is alot like the axe swing, and chopping wood was how George had that sneaky quick right hand. That swinging motion over and over since he was a kid turned Sander's left hand into a phenominal tool, obliques and back muscles are finely tuned/coordinated to where when he throws that punch it's almost like he's driving a golf ball. freirui 03-29-2005, 11:36 PM Tyson still is the hardest hitter in the division regardless of what roach and brooks say , who has wald ever knocked out to suggest he is a big hitter, he couldnt even knockout glass chinned sanders . For those who dont think tyson hits is a huge puncher listen to what some of his opponents have said about his power . Bruno said that tyson had nuclear powered fists, tubbs said tyson hit like a jack hammer and was by far the hardest hitter he ever faced . Larry holmes says that cooney hit harder than tyson but why is it then that cooney couldnt put a dent in spinks and tyson put him on the canvas twice in 90 seconds . Tyson at age of 13 was reckoned to hit harder than the average heavyweight this is before he even learned to punch properly , at the age of 13 and not knowing how to punch properly he able to break a fullygrowm man amateur boxer bobby stewart nose with a jab , in his prime he often staggered fighters with his , dont try and tell me that a guy who couldnt knock down glass chinned sanders hits harder than tyson . Even boxing historians and experts acknowleged that tyson is one of the hardest hitters in boxing history . Eddie futch said that tysons power is comparable with sonny liston and george foreman . You said wlad couldn't even knockout sanders it's because of Wlad's power???!!!What the **** are you talking about? Wlad didn't land a clear punch before the fight was over. Yarmez 03-29-2005, 11:52 PM Tua ,Tyson,Vitali all have decent power Nautilus 03-30-2005, 12:02 AM Mike Tyson without a doubt , danny williams said he punches much harder than vitali . Wladimir Klichko punches harder than MT -- that's what both T. Brooks and F. Roach said. freirui 03-30-2005, 12:57 AM Tyson still is the hardest hitter in the division regardless of what roach and brooks say , who has wald ever knocked out to suggest he is a big hitter, he couldnt even knockout glass chinned sanders . For those who dont think tyson hits is a huge puncher listen to what some of his opponents have said about his power . Bruno said that tyson had nuclear powered fists, tubbs said tyson hit like a jack hammer and was by far the hardest hitter he ever faced . Larry holmes says that cooney hit harder than tyson but why is it then that cooney couldnt put a dent in spinks and tyson put him on the canvas twice in 90 seconds . Tyson at age of 13 was reckoned to hit harder than the average heavyweight this is before he even learned to punch properly , at the age of 13 and not knowing how to punch properly he able to break a fullygrowm man amateur boxer bobby stewart nose with a jab , in his prime he often staggered fighters with his , dont try and tell me that a guy who couldnt knock down glass chinned sanders hits harder than tyson . Even boxing historians and experts acknowleged that tyson is one of the hardest hitters in boxing history . Eddie futch said that tysons power is comparable with sonny liston and george foreman . "glass chinned sanders" What???!!! 30 unanswered punches from Rahman couldn't even knockdown a out of gas sanders!!! Kid Achilles 03-30-2005, 01:15 AM Please keep in mind who you are trying to reason with. catskills23 03-30-2005, 05:31 AM For all the guys who say they have been hit harder there are as many guys who say that mike tyson is by far the hardest hitter they have faced . Sinatra.Jr 03-30-2005, 09:13 AM tyson in the case ok good condition-fisical& mental Stickman 03-30-2005, 09:24 AM For all the guys who say they have been hit harder there are as many guys who say that mike tyson is by far the hardest hitter they have faced . Blind adolation will get you nowhere but in the poor-house (if you're a betting man). Luckily for you, though, Tyson will probably never be back. Kid Achilles 03-30-2005, 09:42 AM Name some. Everyone from that era says Mike Weaver. catskills23 03-30-2005, 10:28 AM Tony tubbs, tony tucker, frank bruno and michael spinks and henry tillman said it . AintGottaClue 03-30-2005, 10:35 AM corrie sanders isnt glass chinned catskillz Kid Achilles 03-30-2005, 12:29 PM When did any of these guys say that Tyson was the hardest puncher they've faced? I don't recall anyone outright saying those words, but if you could show me either an interview or an article where they're quoted as saying that it would be great. On the other hand, I've heard plenty of fighters say that he hit hard but not harder then some other slower fighters. !! Mr. Soprano 03-30-2005, 12:29 PM Tyson, Klitchkos! Mr. Ryan 03-30-2005, 02:01 PM David Tua and Samuel Peter are my 2 candidates for the hardest punching heavyweights today. !! Anorak 03-30-2005, 03:22 PM The quality of punch should be judged apon the opponent it stopped. Like Tua knocked out Moorer in 30 seconds but we know Moorer is chinny. But Tua did Ruiz in 16 seconds and Golota couldn`t do it. Tyson has knocked everyone out he was supposed to but couldn`t dent Lewis or Holyfield. He hit hard but not the hardest. Klitscko i believe isn`t the hardest puncher. He is very accurate and lately punches in bunches, this gets his KO percentage high but does if show killer power, NO! Sam peter hasn`t fought anyone yet and Rahman is only right hand, no other additional power shots. The right hand was useless against a 39 yr old Evander, so is Rahman so great? NO Wlad Klitscko? He couldn`t stop Chris Byrd ( and Byrd had been stopped before ) and KO wins over Axel Scluch, Monte Barrett and a 40yr old Mercer don`t cut it. I believe until he retired Lennox was the hardest puncher in the heavies of the 90`s. Nowadays......well, why not James Toney. he`s blown up Middleweight but he gets KO`s. But seriously. David Tua i think has the hardest SINGLE shot in todays heavyweights!A hell of a lot of sense being spoken here paulmmv 03-30-2005, 03:28 PM 1. Tyson 2. Wlad 3. Vitali snap the jab 03-30-2005, 05:40 PM Vitali K hits extremely hard, i'm sure, but at least in the fights that i've seen him in he doesn't seem to have the one-punch ko power that tyson does - he seems to just bludgeon his opponnents towards the tko rather than knocking them out with one ko shot. Remember all those huge shots he nailed Corrie Sanders with? And he still couldn't knock him out. Of course a tko works just as well as a ko as far as winning a fight is concerned... Stickman 03-30-2005, 11:14 PM Vitali K hits extremely hard, i'm sure, but at least in the fights that i've seen him in he doesn't seem to have the one-punch ko power that tyson does - he seems to just bludgeon his opponnents towards the tko rather than knocking them out with one ko shot. Remember all those huge shots he nailed Corrie Sanders with? And he still couldn't knock him out. Of course a tko works just as well as a ko as far as winning a fight is concerned... Sanders probably isn't a good example to use....Rahman bludgeoned him repeatedly with his big-ass right hand and couldn't KO him either. The guy probably has one of the toughest beards ever, as well as one of the biggest punches. Klitchko does hit hard, but I agree that he's not the huge puncher the like of his brother, Sanders, Shavers, etc. He probably has the nastiest short left hook in the business, though. Did you catch that left he put Williams on the canvas with in the 3rd? It couldn't have traveled more than 6". That truly amazed me. catskills23 04-02-2005, 06:38 AM For those of you who say tyson isnt one of the hardest punchers ever and his power is overrated . How come the huge puncher gerry Cooney couldnt drop michael spinks and prime tyson dropped spinks twice in 90 seconds and was the first and only fighter ever to send michael spinks to the canvas . Stickman 04-02-2005, 08:33 AM For those of you who say tyson isnt one of the hardest punchers ever and his power is overrated . How come the huge puncher gerry Cooney couldnt drop michael spinks and prime tyson dropped spinks twice in 90 seconds and was the first and only fighter ever to send michael spinks to the canvas . Because sometimes one fighter just can't catch a guy in that sweet spot that puts them to sleep, and another boxer seems able to do it with a single punch. Tyson was much faster than Cooney, and unquestionably more accurate, and as I said before....he almost never threw a single punch. It was always a combination that starched his opponents, and every punch was perfectly aimed. He did have power, just nothing earth-shattering. Dunno why you absolutely refuse to believe this, when everybody is basically telling you the same thing, but I'm not posting again in reference to this. Enjoy. catskills23 04-02-2005, 01:20 PM Tyson had power but it wasent earth shatering , thats why tyson broke andrew golatas vertebrae bones, frctured his eye sockets and cheek bones and he broke sammy scaffs nose with one punch and dam near whacked his nose off his face . As for knocking spinks with cominations , tyson dropped with a body shot and knocked later with a left hook to the head , did see spinks body shake everytime tyson hit him , spinks looked like he was getting a volt of an electronic shock every time tyson hit , even when hit spinks on his arms spinks felt it and was really if that isnt massive power I dont know what and lots of tysons opponents said that tysons power was inhuman . I read quote from tubbs saying that tyson hit like a jack hammer and was by far the hardest puncher he ever faced . AintGottaClue 04-02-2005, 02:30 PM Tyson had power but it wasent earth shatering , thats why tyson broke andrew golatas vertebrae bones, frctured his eye sockets and cheek bones and he broke sammy scaffs nose with one punch and dam near whacked his nose off his face . As for knocking spinks with cominations , tyson dropped with a body shot and knocked later with a left hook to the head , did see spinks body shake everytime tyson hit him , spinks looked like he was getting a volt of an electronic shock every time tyson hit , even when hit spinks on his arms spinks felt it and was really if that isnt massive power I dont know what and lots of tysons opponents said that tysons power was inhuman . I read quote from tubbs saying that tyson hit like a jack hammer and was by far the hardest puncher he ever faced . dont u ever shut up? Warden11 04-02-2005, 03:07 PM Tyson for sure |