If you were in a vegetative state, would you want your feeding tube removed?

I would, and I am also in favor of euthanasia under certain circumatances.

Yes
No
I'd want my family to decide
I'd want the courts to decide

**** yes, kill my ass, no way i would want to live like that
i dont know why anyone would want to stay like that
if they dont want to take my feeding tube out then they can dump antifreeze in it, i dont give a **** just get me out :D

please kill me. That's just me though.

I think it's kind of horrible they way the court has decided to let her die by starvation. I was watching the news and some guy justified she was no in any pain because she was smiling. I just thought that was a really stupid way to justify and act I mean she might look like she is smiling but being in a vegetated state how is he to know.

Oh yea and I wouldn't want to live like that either

Yeah people are stupid. Smiling means no pain and happy. Just ask any boxer when he's hit hard as ****, then grins at his opponent. You know those punches still hurt like hell.

I'd want someone to kill me if I were in that state. I don't think I could even take being handicapped. I hope I never have to experience it. Would rather die. Same with if I had any terminal illnesses. I'd rather be just killed on the spot rather than waiting with false hope for the greedy ass medical companies to come out with a cure, which isn't going to happen.

Medicine is not about curing people, it is about keeping them alive long enough to get them to buy more of that medicine. **** that, save the money and buy yourself a bullet. I'd hire a hitman to do me in before I'd go in for that chemo therapy scam.

Yeah, death by starvation is one of the worse deaths. Its literally drying out and dying slow. She isn't someone who is connected to life support so there is no reason for her to get destroyed by the doctors. It's evident that she is no longer the person she once was, nor will she ever be that person again, but she living the same way you and I are living, through nutrition, and getting the things her body needs. Doing what they're doing to her now is no different then putting a bullet in her head, vegetable state or no vegetable state, only difference is, what they're doing is worse....atleast you can't feel a bullet and you'll more than likely die instantly.

I pick for my family to decide....my blood will be in their hands..

people laugh now about la guillotine being a humane punishment. I still think it is more humane than the electric chair. It is instant, fairly painless, an electric chair is not.

Either would beat executioners with poor aim. Imagine an executioner getting your shoulder when he was trying for your neck.

thats why theres things like Advanced Directives...

I pick for my family to decide....my blood will be in their hands..

In their hands or On their hands? I wouldn't want my family to have to make such a decision. People have ****ed up emotions and don't always think straight with a loved one in a state like that. They often aren't in the position to make such a decision. Then if they pull the plug, they may feel guilty like they killed you, since they basically did order your death.

Knowing my mom or dad, they're both ****ing ***** *******s, so they'd probably force me to keep living.

I'd rather have something official that says "Empty a magazine into my head."

I think it's kind of horrible they way the court has decided to let her die by starvation. I was watching the news and some guy justified she was no in any pain because she was smiling. I just thought that was a really stupid way to justify and act I mean she might look like she is smiling but being in a vegetated state how is he to know.

Oh yea and I wouldn't want to live like that either

Unfortunatley she has to die that way because the very same right wingers who are trying to stop her death wont let us give her a shot of something to put her down easy.

I am disgusted by this whole case. Im disgusted in our goverment overstepping its bounds and I am really disgusted with the religeous right that thinks it can stick its nose in everyones business and tell them how to live. These people trying to keep this poor woman alive against her will are morons and they ought to be ashamed to be using a person like her as a political tool. **** the President and his dumb ass brother too.
These republican hacks are acting like life is so sacred and every life shoud count for so much while there are good healthy young men in Iraq with working brains who die every day. We dont hear them saying **** about that do we? These *******s fly back to Washington from their vacations to vote on a bill to save 1 brain dead women, and when an american or someone helping us gets kidnapped in Iraq and is threatened with their htroat being slit, these fat bastards in Washington dont lift a finger. Im not saying we should appease terrorists, but it shows the hypocripsy of these empty suits in Washington and these so called pro-life bull**** artists.

I feel bad for Michael Shavio who has so go through this **** with his wife and takes care of her for years only to be lied about, and slandred quite frankly, by the religious wackos who just want to keep his wife alive to further a political cause. The have called this guy abusive, an attempted murder, all kinds of ****. These people call them selves Christians? I guess they think its ok to lie if its for a cause such as this? **** all them. These are the people that, if they had their way, would be killing gays and abortion doctors all over this country. They believe in the word of god, not the word of law that the rest of us go by. These people want to tellus all how we are supposed to live our lives. Well, I dont want to be like them and I want them the **** out of my business and looking at the polls on this case the large majority of America feels the same way. **** OFF YOU RELIGIOUS *******S!!!
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In their hands or On their hands? I wouldn't want my family to have to make such a decision. People have ****ed up emotions and don't always think straight with a loved one in a state like that. They often aren't in the position to make such a decision. Then if they pull the plug, they may feel guilty like they killed you, since they basically did order your death.

Knowing my mom or dad, they're both ****ing ***** *******s, so they'd probably force me to keep living.

I'd rather have something official that says "Empty a magazine into my head."

Thankyou for the correction, Baio...however, I'm too lazy to edit the post. Well if their emotions get in the way after a couple of years they'll come to their senses and make a non emotion-clouded decision.

There is this way too strong bull**** fake religious non-sense. I believe in God and I'm of Christian faith, believe it or not. I don't think God wants people to sit there ****ing suffering like that. Jesus taught mercy. He died on a cross in a horrible way so that others, his believers, wouldn't have to. Now these so-called Christians want this woman to basically starve to death or whatever, suffering.

People need to quit treating God like God is stupid. Like I just don't believe this stuff about a sin is a sin. Any two sins are just as bad? That's bull****. Lying to my teacher about why I'm late to class isn't anywhere near the same thing as some sick ****ing child molester. God isn't stupid, He knows the difference. But there are people that believe both sins are equally as bad in God's eyes. Come on.

but what i dont understand is why our government wants to keep her alive if its costing them tons of money? oh yeah i completely agree with you explosivo. i dont really know the whole deal on it cuz i never watch tv can anyone give me the facts? like non-biased that is

but what i dont understand is why our government wants to keep her alive if its costing them tons of money? oh yeah i completely agree with you explosivo. i dont really know the whole deal on it cuz i never watch tv can anyone give me the facts? like non-biased that is

The govenment doesnt give a **** about wasting our (taxpayers) money when they can use it to help themselves politically. When this thing first came up the Republicans jumped all over it thinking it would give them a political boost, but when the polls came out in the next couple day that showed %70 of America disagreeing with the congress getting involved, the sacks of **** backed off.

hmm yes, how long has she been a vegetable?

15 years. Long time if you ask me. I think these religeous types are waiting for a miracle to happen or something...

15 years. Long time if you ask me. I think these religeous types are waiting for a miracle to happen or something...

they are insane we need to kill all the right wing extremist and kill all the left wing extremist that way all us normal people in the middle can live peacefully, imagine the utopia, imagine it my friend

Yeah, death by starvation is one of the worse deaths. Its literally drying out and dying slow. She isn't someone who is connected to life support so there is no reason for her to get destroyed by the doctors. It's evident that she is no longer the person she once was, nor will she ever be that person again, but she living the same way you and I are living, through nutrition, and getting the things her body needs. Doing what they're doing to her now is no different then putting a bullet in her head, vegetable state or no vegetable state, only difference is, what they're doing is worse....atleast you can't feel a bullet and you'll more than likely die instantly.


....Jack, you make alot of sense and being down here in Florida it is really an intense issue for us. Being more right leaning in my thought process I think it's just another way to devalue human life by pulling the feeding tube. On the other hand, I would not want to be in that situation of being in a near vegetative state. There is the slim possibility that down the road she could improve through modern technology. Science is making leaps and bounds every year in turning back terminal illness and doing what was once thought impossible. If that was my family member and there was any chance at all that she could recover even just a little bit, then I wouldn't want that feeding tube pulled. The husband has another wife and another life at this point in time and he is not the one that should be making the decision and "pulling the triger". He is emotionaly detached and living a completely different life now. Not to mention the fact that he gets a chunk of change once she dies. The whole thing kind of stinks but I admit that I have mixed feelings on the matter.

....Jack, you make alot of sense and being down here in Florida it is really an intense issue for us. Being more right leaning in my thought process I think it's just another way to devalue human life by pulling the feeding tube. On the other hand, I would not want to be in that situation of being in a near vegetative state. There is the slim possibility that down the road she could improve through modern technology. Science is making leaps and bounds every year in turning back terminal illness and doing what was once thought impossible. If that was my family member and there was any chance at all that she could recover even just a little bit, then I wouldn't want that feeding tube pulled. The husband has another wife and another life at this point in time and he is not the one that should be making the decision and "pulling the triger". He is emotionaly detached and living a completely different life now. Not to mention the fact that he gets a chunk of change once she dies. The whole thing kind of stinks but I admit that I have mixed feelings on the matter.

I dont know that she can ever recover. I know the right wingers (Hannity and Scarbrough) have been prancing around this phony Nobel Prize nominee (not true) who says she can recover, but that isnt supported by the vast majority of the medical community.

As far as the guy getting money when she dies and having a new wife, both of those statements are false. The guy, after caring for Terry for years (even becoming a nurse to take care of her) met another women with whom he is now engaged, not married. You cant balme the guy for wanting a little companionship in his life can you? Its not like he went and hooked up with other chicks right after this happened to Terri. I also dont buy the emotionaly detached thing. I think he takes the responsibility he has seriously and is doing everything to see this thing through - the way Terri wanted- not anyone else. The guy has had offers of a million dollars to drop it and hand over gaurdianship to the parents, but he hasnt. He'd doing what she wanted him to do.
As for him getting a chunk of change when she dies, well I dont know what you consider to be a chunk of change, but I dont think hes getting too much money. When they won a medical malpractice suit after the accident the got around 1.2 million. After attorneys fees they had about a million. They put 700K in a trust for Terri's treatment which has been spent through the years and only 300K was set aside for pain and suffering for the husband. Remember, this lawsuit happened about 10 years ago so I dont know how much of that he would even have left, but regardless, he deserved the money in the first place. To say this guy is killing this woman for money is to beleive the far right propaganda machine that has been spewing bull**** for the last couple weeks like that and also accusing Michael Shaivo of being an attempted murder. This guy is trying to do the right thing by her and I dont know why that is so hard for the people on the far right to beleive.

Everybody knows Im more on the right side of the spectrum. I think her tube should be pulled. A friend of mine did some research and found out every since day one, he wanted her off life support (her wishes) but her parents fought him on it. Her parents lawyers way back offered the guy a million dollars to give up his next of kin rights so they would be in control. He denied the money still stating that she wouldn't want to be in that condition. I dont know how this thing got so out of control. They pull feeding tubes out of people every single day. Some family members want it, some dont. I would want to be put to death if I was in such a state. When you are in that state you end up being nothing more than a burden to your family and, (in this case the taxpayers).

What's the difference between these three men?

http://i.cnn.net/cnn/2003/LAW/10/28/schiavo.lkl/story.schiavo.jpg

http://www.cnn.com/US/OJ/daily/9601/01-21/simpson.jpg

http://i.cnn.net/cnn/2003/US/West/04/19/peterson.case/story.peterson.booking.jpg

The bottom two were successful. The top one up until now hasn't been successful, but its looking like his luck is changing. What really took place on March 5, 1991? And why does Michael want her body cremated instead of burying her in Florida?

To start off with, the video that is being shown of the woman is 4 years old, only the family members and doctors know how she is looking at this point. Second, from the reports I have heard, there isn't any pain involved, but rather the body organs will simply be shutting down, which will cause death.

Personaly, I find it ironic that people put a horse down for a broken leg, but they won't give a human who is a vegetable brain wise, or a human that is horrific pain, or is dying of some incurable disease the benefit of being put out of misery.

Nobody would wish to be kept alive for 15 years in her condition, she will not get better, there has been zero improvement in the last 15 years - let nature take it's course for crying out loud! Enough is enough!

I have simpathy for both her and her parents, as well as her husband, but come on, the courts have no business in this matter, it's time to let God choose when the poor woman gets to move on to the next life, man has already been dictating her fate for 15 years too long...

Oh, and by the way, my own Mother asked me not to put her on life support again if she got that critical, that was just last summer - when the time came to decide wether or not to put her back on the breathing machine again, I respected her wishes, as you may recall I buried her just last November...

Makes perfect sense to destroy something or someone if its costing tons of money. Personally I'd feel the same way as many of you do, I'd want the plug pulled myself if I were in that condition, but sorry folks it's not up to any of us not the Joe Schmoes of the world, not the politicians, not the judges, not Terri's family, hell it's not even up to Terri Schiavo herself. Only God has the final say on every single human life.

people laugh now about la guillotine being a humane punishment. I still think it is more humane than the electric chair. It is instant, fairly painless, an electric chair is not.

Either would beat executioners with poor aim. Imagine an executioner getting your shoulder when he was trying for your neck.



guillotine would be more humane, in my opnion than letting her starve to death...but these *******s think if they let her starve to death they're not killing her, like say, a bullet in the head would be. BULL****!!!!! watching her die and killing her makes very little difference in terms of morality, except this way she suffers more and doctors can say they're hands are clean, and feel good about themselves

Makes perfect sense to destroy something or someone if its costing tons of money. Personally I'd feel the same way as many of you do, I'd want the plug pulled myself if I were in that condition, but sorry folks it's not up to any of us not the Joe Schmoes of the world, not the politicians, not the judges, not Terri's family, hell it's not even up to Terri Schiavo herself. Only God has the final say on every single human life.

That's true. Happy Easter :)

What's the difference between these three men?

http://i.cnn.net/cnn/2003/LAW/10/28/schiavo.lkl/story.schiavo.jpg

http://www.cnn.com/US/OJ/daily/9601/01-21/simpson.jpg

http://i.cnn.net/cnn/2003/US/West/04/19/peterson.case/story.peterson.booking.jpg

The bottom two were successful. The top one up until now hasn't been successful, but its looking like his luck is changing. What really took place on March 5, 1991? And why does Michael want her body cremated instead of burying her in Florida?

I know after a post like this it goes without saying, but Neuraxis, you are a stupid, stupid, man.




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I would rather let my family decide be4 any court.

unless your frozen, the brain can only survive for about 10 minutes without oxygen. they should have let her go when she first had the stroke.
the could have put her in cryogenic's until mabye someday they figure out how to repair brains, then wake her up.

I would rather let my family decide be4 any court.
Wouldnt you rather decide what happens to you before your family or a court?

Wouldnt you rather decide what happens to you before your family or a court?
If i was in a vegative state, you cant make desicions for yourself, and i would rather my family make a make whatever choice than a court.