Without question,he is a great athlete.He has proven to be a most dominant champion,defeating top contenders with ease,but can Georges St Pierre really be called a warrior?


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I don't think an Enson Inoue or a Wanderlei Silva would have tapped in such a position, do you?

Georges St Pierre clearly has all the tools to become a legend in the sport of MMA,but it isn't how many times you can knock a guy down that counts,it's how many times you can get back up,to emerge from the trenches to claim victory when it seems all but impossible.He was put in such a position one time during his career,and it resulted in the only loss of his career and quite possibly the most humiliating way to lose a fight.....Quitting!

So I ask,is Georges St Pierre a warrior?

I don't think an Enson Inoue or a Wanderlei Silva would have tapped in such a position, do you?

No disrespect intended to Inoue or my favorite fighter of all time, but where are those guys now? Wanderlei is not much older than Georges, and his days of beating the **** out of people are pretty much over.

Tapping may look like a sign of weakness to the casual observer, but in fact it's a smart thing to do, IMO.

Why take unnecessary damage? To prove your manhood while you sit out with a broken face, concussion, dislocated joints? That just doesn't make sense to me.

Either way, it was ruled a TKO not a submission due to strikes. And in fact I am kind of glad he got beat up by Serra, everyone needs a wake-up call and had this ass kicking not occurred he wouldn't be where he is today.

So I ask, who gives a **** if he's warrior? He's a great entertaining fighter, and that's all that matters.

Without question,he is a great athlete.He has proven to be a most dominant champion,defeating top contenders with ease,but can Georges St Pierre really be called a warrior?


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I don't think an Enson Inoue or a Wanderlei Silva would have tapped in such a position, do you?

Georges St Pierre clearly has all the tools to become a legend in the sport of MMA,but it isn't how many times you can knock a guy down that counts,it's how many times you can get back up,to emerge from the trenches to claim victory when it seems all but impossible.He was put in such a position one time during his career,and it resulted in the only loss of his career and quite possibly the most humiliating way to lose a fight.....Quitting!

So I ask,is Georges St Pierre a warrior?

Wanderlei Silva has never been in that position, leave it to a boxing fan to assume that a brawler wouldn't tap - Wanderlei gets knocked out, not tko'd.

But you really don't know your **** anyways.

Your posts = :haha:

Oh and

He was put in such a position one time during his career,and it resulted in the only loss of his career

LOL Wut?

and hasn't Inoue lost by Submission due to strikes before?

Against Igor Vovchanchyn, although it went down on record as a TKO, Inoue quit on his stool after the first round.

Against Igor Vovchanchyn, although it went down on record as a TKO, Inoue quit on his stool after the first round.

The fight was called off before he ever made it to his stool you idiot.He never quit.the ref called it off.Try watching a fight instead of looking up on wikipedia.



Oh and



LOL Wut?

That was a simple error on my part.Nothing to gloat over,I can assure you.

and hasn't Inoue lost by Submission due to strikes before?

No he hasn't newb




Wanderlei Silva has never been in that position, leave it to a boxing fan to assume that a brawler wouldn't tap - Wanderlei gets knocked out, not tko'd.

But you really don't know your **** anyways.

Your posts = :haha:


Georges St Pierre didn't get Tko'd,apologist,he tapped out due to strikes.Wanderlei Silva has been put on his back beore you silly cunt,he has absorbed a tremendous amount of punishment and he didn't quit,and he sure as hell wouldn't quit because a midget was punching him in the face.

Go back to sherdog




Tapping may look like a sign of weakness to the casual observer, but in fact it's a smart thing to do, IMO.

Why take unnecessary damage? To prove your manhood while you sit out with a broken face, concussion, dislocated joints? That just doesn't make sense to me.

Either way, it was ruled a TKO not a submission due to strikes. And in fact I am kind of glad he got beat up by Serra, everyone needs a wake-up call and had this ass kicking not occurred he wouldn't be where he is today.

So I ask, who gives a **** if he's warrior? He's a great entertaining fighter, and that's all that matters.


He tapped out,no excuses,he tapped.Sure he need a wake up call to be a boring safety,lay n pray artist,who is so insecure aout his weak chin and his fragile heart that he isn't willing to take risks while fighting.He's not exciting,he routinely stinks out the joint.

I'm glad that you admit that Georges St Pierre is devoid of courage however.

Without question,he is a great athlete.He has proven to be a most dominant champion,defeating top contenders with ease,but can Georges St Pierre really be called a warrior?


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I don't think an Enson Inoue or a Wanderlei Silva would have tapped in such a position, do you?

Georges St Pierre clearly has all the tools to become a legend in the sport of MMA,but it isn't how many times you can knock a guy down that counts,it's how many times you can get back up,to emerge from the trenches to claim victory when it seems all but impossible.He was put in such a position one time during his career,and it resulted in the only loss of his career and quite possibly the most humiliating way to lose a fight.....Quitting!

So I ask,is Georges St Pierre a warrior?

Yes i think. He did actually quit against Serra. He would have gotten knocked out though. He managed to come back stronger than ever, rededicate himself, and fought the best WW out there. He cleaned up the house and never ducked. He has some balls and a strong mind.

I don't think you could compare him to Wanderlei, Inoue though. Those guys are born like that, they're real warriors, not made fighters. GSP learned his skills and is a great athlete but those guys have what can't be taught: a Warrior Spirit.
You have to kill them to beat them.

Hes a good fighter but definatly not a warrior.

look at st pierre vs hughes 1, as soon as hughes got the armbar in he tapped straight away but for example when hughes fought trigg, trigg had the rear naked choke locked in but hughes never tapped and managed to win the fight.

like i said, good fighter but a bit of a *****.

Without question,he is a great athlete.He has proven to be a most dominant champion,defeating top contenders with ease,but can Georges St Pierre really be called a warrior?


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I don't think an Enson Inoue or a Wanderlei Silva would have tapped in such a position, do you?

Georges St Pierre clearly has all the tools to become a legend in the sport of MMA,but it isn't how many times you can knock a guy down that counts,it's how many times you can get back up,to emerge from the trenches to claim victory when it seems all but impossible.He was put in such a position one time during his career,and it resulted in the only loss of his career and quite possibly the most humiliating way to lose a fight.....Quitting!

So I ask,is Georges St Pierre a warrior?

For me GSP is truely one of the best in mma ever!! there is no doubting that

he does have a warrior spirit in being matched with the best every fight!!! is legacy is top class and will only get better!!!

BUT there is always a but

GSP for me disappointed me especially in serra 2, he totally dominated him on the ground BUT why did he not try and beat serra standing up (penn beat shrek up at is own game) i know am being petty but it disappointed me whats more better than knocking the guy who knocked u out its pretty symoblic!!!

but i have to agree with you GSP aint no warrior he was not born as a fighter but was given a god given talent though he dont have that killer instinct but will go down as a legend for sure

Hes a good fighter but definatly not a warrior.

look at st pierre vs hughes 1, as soon as hughes got the armbar in he tapped straight away but for example when hughes fought trigg, trigg had the rear naked choke locked in but hughes never tapped and managed to win the fight.

like i said, good fighter but a bit of a *****.

beingin a choke and being in an armbar are different, if you're in a choke and you don't tap you go to sleep, that's all then you wake up, no damage done, but in an armbar no one wants to get their arm snapped off do they

He tapped out,no excuses,he tapped.Sure he need a wake up call to be a boring safety,lay n pray artist,who is so insecure aout his weak chin and his fragile heart that he isn't willing to take risks while fighting.He's not exciting,he routinely stinks out the joint.

I'm glad that you admit that Georges St Pierre is devoid of courage however.

I don't get how you can say he's boring and doesn't take risks. He stood with Alves and beat him standing. It's not like he was so desperate to get a takedown that if he was unable to get it, he would falter and give up.

He beat Alves standing, and he beat him on the ground, and in another thread you mentioned how he looked "scared when Thiago was in his guard. I don't really get that. He maintained a very good butterfly guard and absorbed little to no damage and was able to get back up even with a torn groin.

So to say he has absolutely no heart or courage is ignorant. Had he had none, by your theory, he would have tapped when he was put on his back.

He also displayed great heart and determination by coming back and beating BJ Penn in their first fight, after taking a beating in the first round.

He's not a regular Wanderlei Silva, but he's definitely not Kalib Starnes or some pansy.

Also I don't get why someone that goes for a takedown is considered a *****, while a guy that refuses to go to the ground or take someone down is a bad-ass.

I guess Cro Cop was a ***** for not taking his opposition down, and Anderson Silva was a coward because he refused to grapple with Leites...?

Question for TS: Do you still call it MMgay? Why would you watch a sport you hate ?

That's beyond my comprehension.

Question for TS: Do you still call it MMgay? Why would you watch a sport you hate ?

That's beyond my comprehension.

What I don't understand is that most of the guys on this board that supposedly despise MMA, spend more time in this section than the rest of the forum.

George who? I have no f-kin idea who he is nor do I care to know who he is if he's a homo MMAer

George who? I have no f-kin idea who he is nor do I care to know who he is if he's a homo MMAer

then get the **** out of the MMA section

then get the **** out of the MMA section

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8WLYwxUFis

Lol the ignorance of this poster astounds me.

When I reply the way he does in nearly 100% of his posts, he blows a fuse. Some people cannot be reasoned with and the TS is one of them.

The fight was called off before he ever made it to his stool you idiot.He never quit.the ref called it off.Try watching a fight instead of looking up on wikipedia.


I have watched the fight, even uploaded it to the video thread in this section, idiot. He got taken to his corner, slumped down and didn't want to comeback out. He had no complaints when it was called off which essentially meant he quit. Try having a logical discussion/debate without the pre-emptive notion of lambasting someone when they don't agree with your one-track close minded opinion. At least then you won't sound like a broken record.

/thread.

Hes a good fighter but definatly not a warrior.

look at st pierre vs hughes 1, as soon as hughes got the armbar in he tapped straight away but for example when hughes fought trigg, trigg had the rear naked choke locked in but hughes never tapped and managed to win the fight.

like i said, good fighter but a bit of a *****.


.....Most fighters tap at the split second their arm is being pulled, and, we're talking about Hughes, he doesnt go at his opponents soft neither and being armbarred by Hughes is no joke.........plus the Trigg one was just ego, like Shamrock Baroni, Baroni simply said "I'm not gonna tap" he didn't and went to sleep.......though it was kinda funny and stupid




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I have watched the fight, even uploaded it to the video thread in this section, idiot. He got taken to his corner, slumped down and didn't want to comeback out. He had no complaints when it was called off which essentially meant he quit. Try having a logical discussion/debate without the pre-emptive notion of lambasting someone when they don't agree with your one-track close minded opinion. At least then you won't sound like a broken record.



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He just took an absolute beating you moron,he couldn't get up and his brother had to carry him back to his corner,just before they made it to the corner,the referee made the right decision to call a halt to the fight.Inoe was never a quitter and never did quit.





George who? I have no f-kin idea who he is nor do I care to know who he is if he's a homo MMAer





Pretty much,he also has no heart or chin either.





Question for TS: Do you still call it MMgay? Why would you watch a sport you hate ?

That's beyond my comprehension.


Who ever said that I did watch it?




Hes a good fighter but definatly not a warrior.

look at st pierre vs hughes 1, as soon as hughes got the armbar in he tapped straight away but for example when hughes fought trigg, trigg had the rear naked choke locked in but hughes never tapped and managed to win the fight.

like i said, good fighter but a bit of a *****.


Yep.good point.He got caught in an armbar at the last moment of the round,in a round where he was very competitive and couldn't hold on just one more second for the bell to ring,a true warrior would have done.

Being a warrior doesn't win you matches.

He just took an absolute beating you moron,he couldn't get up and his brother had to carry him back to his corner,just before they made it to the corner,the referee made the right decision to call a halt to the fight.Inoe was never a quitter and never did quit.











Pretty much,he also has no heart or chin either.








Who ever said that I did watch it?







Yep.good point.He got caught in an armbar at the last moment of the round,in a round where he was very competitive and couldn't hold on just one more second for the bell to ring,a true warrior would have done.



If you know Inoue and Wanderlei are warriors and that GSP is a great fighter who quit, you watched MMA at some point of your life. A lot of UFC fans don't know who is Enson Inoue.

You're a MMA fan, get over it.

Yes i think. He did actually quit against Serra. He would have gotten knocked out though. He managed to come back stronger than ever, rededicate himself, and fought the best WW out there. He cleaned up the house and never ducked. He has some balls and a strong mind.

I don't think you could compare him to Wanderlei, Inoue though. Those guys are born like that, they're real warriors, not made fighters. GSP learned his skills and is a great athlete but those guys have what can't be taught: a Warrior Spirit.
You have to kill them to beat them.

Yes^^^ he got derailed and came back after losses to Serra and Hughes and beat both of them. This in addition to beating the best comp he could have possibly fought in Fitch and what seemed to be bulldozer in Alves who he completely dominated.

The guy is a warrior. He trains harder than anyone and is more dedicated to his craft than any other UFC champion. He cleaned out his division and is the most complete mma fighter of all time. <--- Oh yeah, I just went there.

If you know Inoue and Wanderlei are warriors and that GSP is a great fighter who quit, you watched MMA at some point of your life. A lot of UFC fans don't know who is Enson Inoue.

You're a MMA fan, get over it.

Yep. LOL. He loves it:banana:

He just took an absolute beating you moron,he couldn't get up and his brother had to carry him back to his corner,just before they made it to the corner,the referee made the right decision to call a halt to the fight.Inoe was never a quitter and never did quit.


My point made. This thread is just a reason for you to insult people, try downplay a great fighter like GSP whilst riding the nutsack of a guy like Enson Inoue whose biggest achievement is a win over Randy Couture and a small part in Redbelt. You're a hater plain and simple.

I guess you get picked on alot and was bullied as a child that the only way you can feel like a man is to come on the internet and try and be a rebel that is interested in trying to get up people's noses because away from here you can't be a man, only a mouse.

GSP in mine and many people's estimation is a warrior. You think in order to be a warrior you must go in with a never say die attitude and go out on your shield. But IMO being a warrior has many different aspects not just restricted to your own opinion. GSP was beat by Serra & Hughes and it took more guts to step back in there with them knowing that the same thing could happen again. Tapping out is not a ***** move. If you got beat, then you got beat, there's no shame in it and there's no shame in admitting it like a man. But you live to fight another day and you can prove to those haters that you are willing to get back in their with that guy who got the better of you and show them who the better man is. Unlike GSP, Enson never went in search of rematches for the guys who got the better of him. A true warrior won't rest until he has conquered his conquerer which is what GSP has done.

just LOL at these nobody losers sitting in their parents basement in this thread calling GSP a ***** or not a warrior, sorry but what the **** have you ever done? GSP has achieved more and is more of a warrior than you losers will ever be, I bet you don't even have the balls to step in the ring/cage in the first place so STFU.

beingin a choke and being in an armbar are different, if you're in a choke and you don't tap you go to sleep, that's all then you wake up, no damage done, but in an armbar no one wants to get their arm snapped off do they

I'm pretty sure going to sleep all the time in a choke does not do any good for you

I'm pretty sure going to sleep all the time in a choke does not do any good for you

I agree. Anytime there is no blood going through your brain, is probably not a good thing. LOL

I'm pretty sure going to sleep all the time in a choke does not do any good for you

It depends on how long the choke is applied after you pass out. Parts of the brain will shut down, due to the lack of oxygen, with regards to those which regulate conciousness. However, parts which regulate the heart and the flow of blood round your body keep working on what oxygen is left. If it's held any longer then there is a possibility of brain damage due to some cells in the brain being damaged and dying because there is less and less oxygen available for those parts of the brain to function.

I'm pretty sure going to sleep all the time in a choke does not do any good for you

I remember reading that it only starts to get dangerous after you're out for like 30 seconds, by which time the ref would have stopped it long before

Pretty much,he also has no heart or chin either.







who the **** are you to comment on GSP having no heart or chin?

you're a ****ing nobody who will never be anything other than some loser behind a keyboard

hmm.. not a warrior huh? did you even watch GSP vs BJ 1, where after the first round his face looked like hamburger meat with a broken nose and poked eye and still win the fight???? did it ever cross your mind the amount of warior spirit it took him to fight a beast like thiago alves in rounds 4/5 with a torn groin and still land takedowns...not tapping to armbars is just retarded, he could easily had a career ending broken arm not tapping...and tapping to sera strikes when he has the mount position raining down blows is probably the wise thing todo if you dont want a concussion...sheez, please think before you post..imo any fighter who gets in either a ring or a cage to fight another individual is a warrior..

hmm.. not a warrior huh? did you even watch GSP vs BJ 1, where after the first round his face looked like hamburger meat with a broken nose and poked eye and still win the fight???? did it ever cross your mind the amount of warior spirit it took him to fight a beast like thiago alves in rounds 4/5 with a torn groin and still land takedowns...not tapping to armbars is just retarded, he could easily had a career ending broken arm not tapping...and tapping to sera strikes when he has the mount position raining down blows is probably the wise thing todo if you dont want a concussion...sheez, please think before you post..imo any fighter who gets in either a ring or a cage to fight another individual is a warrior..

qft

its pathetic for some coward hiding behind a computer to call guys like GSP ******* and not warriors when they themselves dont have the balls to step into the ring/cage to fight at all

hmm.. not a warrior huh? did you even watch GSP vs BJ 1, where after the first round his face looked like hamburger meat with a broken nose and poked eye and still win the fight????.


There was no broken nose and there was no eye poke.Georges St.Pierre survived the rest of the fight and refused to open up.He spent the rest of the fight looking for takedowns and barely escaped with the win.



did it ever cross your mind the amount of warior spirit it took him to fight a beast like thiago alves in rounds 4/5 with a torn groin and still land takedowns...not tapping to armbars is just retarded, he could easily had a career ending broken arm not tapping...and tapping to sera strikes when he has the mount position raining down blows is probably the wise thing todo if you dont want a concussion...sheez, please think before you post..imo any fighter who gets in either a ring or a cage to fight another individual is a warrior..


Warrior spirit????? He spent the entire fight taking Alves down,Alves gave up on trying to defend the takedowns and just concentrated on trying to get up.

St.Pierre showed no warrior spirit in surviving a little longer to pick up a decision over a mentally broken fighter.

There was just a second left in the round.A warrior wouldn't tap out at such a time.

And a warrior wouldn't tap out to a midget hitting him.


Georgs St.Pierre has yet to show heart in any of his fights.You can call him alot of things,but a warrior isn't one of them.

he is a warrior!

GSP is the sexiest warrior I've ever seen

http://www.cageandringmagazine.com/articles/august/images/Copy%20of%20georges-st-pierre.jpg

When did being a warrior mean you have to stand and throw punches all the time? there's more to fighting then throwing shots...

Gsp is a great all around versatile fighter. Submission, Striking and Ground.

Enson and Wanderlei usually fought people who weighed more than them, not folks who they outweigh by 30lbs on the night of the fight, therefore they either got ktfo or they won, not many decisions for those guys - Different kind of fighters.

GSP is a G though

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IMHO,he is a great fighter.But about a warrior,i'm not sure.Because he is only dominate in UFC.Not Pride/valetudo/others

It depends on what you consider a "warrior".

What I consider a Warrior to be is: A person who stands in there and bangs. Isn't afraid to keep trading shots even if he is hurt. I dont call Mayweather a warrior. But I sure in the hell call Gatti one. I dont call Machida a warrior. But I sure in the hell call Enson Inoue one. Enson earned the name Yamato Damashii for a reason.

GSP is an athlete. You can say that. I like to consider GSP a Martial Artist though. I hope he thinks of himself as the same.

IMO, I think being called a Martial Artist is a more honorable/meaningful title in MMA than Fighter/Warrior/Athlete/Mixed Martial Artist etc etc. But that's just me, other people have other opinions.

A warrior, definately not though.

There's alot more to fighting than just lying on somebody for a decision too.

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Just because it go's to descion doesn't mean he doesn't ****ing destroy people.

It depends on what you consider a "warrior".

What I consider a Warrior to be is: A person who stands in there and bangs. Isn't afraid to keep trading shots even if he is hurt. I dont call Mayweather a warrior. But I sure in the hell call Gatti one. I dont call Machida a warrior. But I sure in the hell call Enson Inoue one. Enson earned the name Yamato Damashii for a reason.

GSP is an athlete. You can say that. I like to consider GSP a Martial Artist though. I hope he thinks of himself as the same.

IMO, I think being called a Martial Artist is a more honorable/meaningful title in MMA than Fighter/Warrior/Athlete/Mixed Martial Artist etc etc. But that's just me, other people have other opinions.

A warrior, definately not though.
holyfield and gatti thats what a warrior is

Nobody that sits behind a keyboard has any room to question the heart or the balls of anyone who steps in a cage or a ring and puts not only their career accomplishments but their health and life on the line as well.

Nobody that sits behind a keyboard has any room to question the heart or the balls of anyone who steps in a cage or a ring and puts not only their career accomplishments but their health and life on the line as well.

lol this, that troll who keeps coming back (prinsmanspooper) or whatever his name is, all he is is a keyboard warrior who lives in his mum's basement and hides behind a screen, what a loser.

@Snakey112


You have an account on virtually every forum on the website.You post the same crap on each forum.Posting useless articles nobody cares about doesn't give you credibility,even among your non existant E buddies.



be gone,child.

rofl wtf this doesn't even make sense, there is one forum on one website, and I don't think I've even posted one article on this forum stop talking out of your arse

anyway, at least I'm not the one who sits here and talks **** about fighters, nothing changes the fact that you're a loser who lives in his mom's basement and talks **** about actual fighters who actually get in the ring and have balls you will never have, you're pathetic

GET A LIFE

It was a mistype,snakey boy.You knew what it was but it didn't matter because you know it's true and that's all you do.


I "talk **** about fighters" while you log into every other account on every other forum to post the same articles day in and day out.

never posted an article in my life you stupid mongoloid,

you recreate new accounts every week to bull**** about fighters, what's this your 8th account so fat? you're a loser plain and simple, you claim to hate mma yet you spend the most time in this section, you watch every event, you know as much about mma if not more so than you do about boxing

lol @ you

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