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VibesMan

10-23-2009, 07:25 AM

Kiid Dynamite

10-23-2009, 07:27 AM

Boza edwards vs Bobby Chacon

JAB5239

10-23-2009, 07:29 AM

Kid Akeem-Robert Quiroga. Great fight, tragic ending.

mickey malone

10-23-2009, 07:39 AM

We all know the epics but what fights do you love that get little mention?

Let's not try and be too obscure and go with fights only serious collectors and historians may know.

My pick is Dave "Boy" Mcauley vs Fidel Bassa (i forget the exact year - 80's) in an unbelievable up and down thriller.

Interested to hear your thoughts on any others but love to hear from anyone who saw the one I mentioned.
I remember Bassa McCauley.. Sure they had 2 fights for one of the flyweight titles, the first being a draw and the second was won by Bassa on a late TKO.. Can recall plenty of KD's, but I can't remember what fight was the better one..

VibesMan

10-23-2009, 07:44 AM

I remember Bassa McCauley.. Sure they had 2 fights for one of the flyweight titles, the first being a draw and the second was won by Bassa on a late TKO.. Can recall plenty of KD's, but I can't remember what fight was the better one..

I think it was the first one?? Just remember watching it with my Dad in awe.

Think the 2nd was good but didn't quite reach the heights of Number 1.

One of my first fight memories along with Colin Jones/Don Curry and a very vague recollection of Larry Holmes - Ah the good ole days!

sonnyboyx2

10-23-2009, 07:56 AM

Joe Frazier v Jerry Quarry (1) a forgotten classic RMFOTY 1969
Bobby Chacon v Bazooka Limon 4
Bobby Chacon v Boza Edwards 2
Bobby Chacon v Danny Lopez
Frank Fletcher v Ernie Singletary
Ray Leonard v Thomas Hearns 1
Ray Mancini v Duk Koo Kim
Gene Fullmer v Benny Peret
Caveman Lee v John Locicero
Evander Holyfield v Dwight Braxton 1
Chris Eubank v Carl Thompson 1 & 2
Nigel Benn v Gerald McClellan
Denis Andries v Jeff Harding 1,2,3
Jerry Quarry v Joe Alexander
Muhammad Ali v Al`blue`Lewis
Colin Jones v Kirkland Laing 1 & 2

VibesMan

10-23-2009, 08:19 AM

Benncollinsaad

10-23-2009, 08:39 AM

Moorer-Stewart was a very exciting fight. Moorer's first real test as a heavyweight, which he passed with a glance.:boxing:

Silencers

10-23-2009, 10:23 AM

There are way too many to list but here are some of them IMO.

Terry Norris vs Troy Waters
Michael Carbajal vs Jorge Arce
Tony Ayala vs Yory Boy Campas
Orlando Canizalez vs Kelvin Seabrooks 1
Ray Leonard vs Donny Lalonde I thought was an underrated fight
All 3 Jeff Harding vs Denis Andries fights
Frank Fletcher vs Clint Jackson
Frank Fletcher vs James Green
Wilfredo Gomez vs Lupe Pintor
Frankie Liles vs Tim Littles 2
Richard Hall vs Julian Letterlough
Matthew Saad Muhammad vs Marvin Johnson 1 & 2
Matthew Saad Muhammad vs Richie Kates
Erik Morlaes vs Daniel Zaragoza
Daniel Zaragoza vs Paul Banke 2
Bruce Curry vs Wilfred Benitez
Mike McCallum vs Milton McCrory
Bruce Curry vs Monroe Brooks
Simon Brown vs Tyrone Trice
Simon Brown vs Vincent Pettway
Michael Gomez vs Alex Arthur
Alex Arthur vs Stephen Foster
Kelvin Seabrooks vs Thierry Jacob
Mickie Ward vs Reggie Green
Charles Williams vs Merqui Sosa 1 & 2
Luis Collazo vs Jose Antonio Rivera
Kennedy McKinney vs Junior Jones
Kennedy McKinney vs Welcome Ncita 1
Jamie Moore vs Matthew Macklin
Danny Hunt vs Lee Meager
Mark Kaylor vs Errol Christie
Daniel Santos vs Neil Sinclair
Jorge Arce vs Hussein Hussein 1
Rafael Pedroza vs Gustavo Ballas
Kermit Cintron vs David Estrada
David Tua vs David Izon
Acelino Freitas vs Jorge Barrios
Alex Stewart vs Michael Moorer
Bert Cooper vs Henry Tillman
Ray Mercer vs Bert Cooper
Alex Stewart vs Ezra Sellers
Bert Cooper vs Andre McCall
Ildemar Paisan vs Geronimo Luque
Barry Michael vs Lester Ellis
David Walker vs Spencer Fearon
Manuel Gomez vs Jeffrey Hill
Luis Hernandez vs Luis Pabon
Alfonso Gomez vs Jesse Feliciano 3
Fulgencio Zuniga vs Jose Luis Zertuche 1 & 2
Bobby Czyz vs Williw Edwards
Freddie Roach vs Tommy Cordoba
Daniel Edouard vs Willie Gibbs
Jason Litzau vs John Nolasco
Michael Gomez vs Carl Johanneson
Michael Moorer vs Bert Cooper
John Duddy vs Yory Boy Campas
Antwun Echols vs Charles Brewer
Israel Vazquez vs Oscar Larios 2
Pernell Whitaker vs Buddy McGirt 1
Thomas Hearns vs James Kinchen
Carmen Basilio vs Tony De Marco 1 & 2
Ray Mancini vs Livingstone Bramble 1
Ray Mancini vs Alexis Arguello
Carl Thompson vs Chris Eubank 1 & 2
Caveman Lee vs John LoCicero
Carl Thompson vs David Haye

Anyways, there are much much more. Some of these fights get mentioned more than others but are still mentioned too little IMO. There should really be a sticky in the History Section about this kind of stuff, like a 'fights you have to watch before you die' thread.

Hitman Hodgson

10-23-2009, 10:56 AM

Graham Earl vs Michael Katsidis - 4 rounds of total war

Martin Rogan vs Matt Skelton - 21st century HW classic.

VibesMan

10-23-2009, 11:31 AM

Alex Arthur v Michael Gomez
Andries v Hearns (Don't know why just love watching it)
Shea Neary v Mickey Ward
Andy Holligan v Shea Neary

Benncollinsaad

10-23-2009, 12:52 PM

Froch-Pascal was a relatively "unseen" fight and it was one of the best fights I've seen in the last 5 years. Seriously!

oldgringo

10-23-2009, 01:05 PM

Hearns/Roldan - Both men rocked, historic fight, ends in style....

Medel/Jofre I - great two way action, both men hurt throughout....

Adamek/Briggs I & II - similar to the gatti/ward fights as far as two way action goes....

Minto/Maddalone I - toughman competition on crack, great ending....

Quartey/Espana - nice fight between two underrated welterweights....

mhager91490

10-23-2009, 01:07 PM

Matthew Hilton-Buster Drayton: Great fifteen round war.

Bruce Curry-Monroe Brooks: Two tough guys slugging it out for contendership with a good knockout.

Aaron Davis-Mark Breland: Brutal war of attrition with great KO.

Frankie Duarte-Albert Davila II: Bloody fast paced war with many momentum changes. Great showing of heart by both men as well.

Orlando Canizales-Sergio Reyes I: Even though I thought that Reyes slugged his way to a clear victory over Canizales only to be robbed the entertainment of the fight cannot be denied.

Alfonso Zamora-Albert "Superfly" Sandoval: Fast paced fight where both guys get rocked.

Simon Brown-Tyrone Trice: Great back and forth war for the vacant IBF welterweight title.

Rafael Ruelas-Freddie Pendelton: Great lightweight fight, Ruelas gets off the deck twice in the first round and wins the fight barely by a great late round surge.

Micky Ward-Reggie Green: Great Espn fight, clash of styles that meshed well, in the end Ward just outwilled Green.

Leonard Dorin-Raul Balbi I-II: Both of their fights were entertaining, bloody and hard fought.

Carl Thompson-Chris Eubank I-II: Both fights were hard fought wars witht the bigger Thompson being ROCKED in both.

Caveman Lee-John LiCicero: Probably the greatest free TV fight ever.

Kevin Kelley-Troy Dorsey: Over 2000 punches thrown in this barnburner.

mhager91490

10-23-2009, 01:21 PM

Froch-Pascal was a relatively "unseen" fight and it was one of the best fights I've seen in the last 5 years. Seriously!

That was a great fight as well as Pascal's fight with Diaconu. Here is one that a few of you might remember, Fernando Montiel-Luis Melendez on the Vs Network. The fight was a brutal twelve round slugfest where both men hit the canvas, Montiel looked like he was going to lose until he rallied late and stopped Melendez. I don't remember much about the undercard, Vanes Matiryosan fought some guy named Dan and this might of been the night that Antillon stopped B. Pacquiao (though I am not sure). Vs cards are probably the best in boxing today (except for Tye Fields).

Tu Pai

10-23-2009, 02:48 PM

Jeff Fenech vs Azumah Nelson 1. I thought Fenech got robbed on that one.

mickey malone

10-23-2009, 03:32 PM

I think it was the first one?? Just remember watching it with my Dad in awe.

Think the 2nd was good but didn't quite reach the heights of Number 1.

One of my first fight memories along with Colin Jones/Don Curry and a very vague recollection of Larry Holmes - Ah the good ole days!
Like it was yesterday.. How was that cut on Jones's hooter!!

mickey malone

10-23-2009, 03:34 PM

Jeff Fenech vs Azumah Nelson 1. I thought Fenech got robbed on that one.
Agreed!... One of my all time top 10 robberies..

On topic..

Jorge Fernando Castro Vs John David Jackson
John 'The Beast' Mugabe Vs James 'Hard Rock' Green
David Tua Vs David Izon
Michael Brodie Vs In Jin Chi
Dennis Andries Vs Jeff Harding
Robert Hines Vs Mathew Hilton
Mike Tyson Vs Brian Nielson
Tim Witherspoon Vs Jorge Luis Gonzalez
Michael Moorer Vs Frans Botha
Charles Williams Vs Bobby Czyz
Vinny Pazienza Vs Lloyd Honeyghan
Frank Bruno Vs Jumbo Cummings

blacklodge

10-23-2009, 08:48 PM

Junior Jones-Kennedey McKinney
Naseem Hamed-Kevin Kelly
Marco Antonio Barrera-Kennedy McKinney
Azumah Nelson-Salvador Sanchez
Azumah Nelson-Jesse James Leija I
Kevin Kelly-Derrick Gainer
Riddick Bowe-Andrew Golota II (talked about, but not about how great the back and forth action was)
Really, any fight with Bobby Chacon or Matthew Saad Muhammad can't go wrong. Someone in charge of classic sports programming at a sports TV network should get a list of the fights in this thread.

1SILVA

10-23-2009, 09:12 PM

We all know the epics but what fights do you love that get little mention?

Let's not try and be too obscure and go with fights only serious collectors and historians may know.

My pick is Dave "Boy" Mcauley vs Fidel Bassa (i forget the exact year - 80's) in an unbelievable up and down thriller.

Interested to hear your thoughts on any others but love to hear from anyone who saw the one I mentioned.

Ruben Olivares-Chuchu Castillo I&II
Holmes-Carl Williams
Jeff Chandler-Ejiro Murata I
Boza Edwards-Navarete
Boza Edwards-Limon
Limon-Navarette
Leo Cruz-Sergio Palma II
Leo Randolph-Ricardo Cardona

Silencers

10-24-2009, 03:29 AM

mhager91490

10-24-2009, 03:45 AM

Leland Hardy vs Ike Padilla
Ricardo Lopez vs Rosendo Alvarez 2
Alex Stewart vs Ezra Sellers
Edwin Valero vs Vicente Mosquera
Alexis Arguello vs Andy Ganigan
Bobby Czyz vs Charles Williams 1
Carlos Zarate vs Lupe Pintor
Wayne Alexander vs Mehrdud Takaloo
Thomas Hearns vs Iran Barkley 2
Tyrell Biggs vs David Bey
Charles Brewer vs Herol Graham
Larry Holmes vs Mike Weaver
Rafael Marquez vs Tim Austin
Mike McCallum vs Jeff Harding

Mosquera's fight with Nanthachai was a war as well.

Iran Barkley also had good fights with Robbie Simms and Eddie Hall, he was just all action all of the time.

Antwaun Echols had a good fight with Charles Brewer, got off of the deck three times to stop Brewer in the next round.

Silencers

10-24-2009, 03:53 AM

Mosquera's fight with Nanthachai was a war as well.

Iran Barkley also had good fights with Robbie Simms and Eddie Hall, he was just all action all of the time.

Antwaun Echols had a good fight with Charles Brewer, got off of the deck three times to stop Brewer in the next round.

Barkley was just an entertaining fighter, I don't think he was ever in a boring fight.

Yeah, Echols-Brewer was a dandy, heck of a comeback from Echols but considering how hurt he was when he was down 3 times, it can be argued that the stoppage was a little quick, Brewer started protesting right away.

Haven't seen the Mosquera-Nanthachai fight, I'll be sure to look out for it.

JAB5239

10-24-2009, 05:43 AM

mickey malone

10-24-2009, 06:02 AM

I think its about time you changed your screen name from Silencers to "The Source". God God almighty! :biggthump
Or even 'Shutthefukup'

JAB5239

10-24-2009, 06:06 AM

Or even 'Shutthefukup'

Whats up with that Mic, you not a fan of Silencers?

mickey malone

10-24-2009, 06:47 AM

Whats up with that Mic, you not a fan of Silencers?
No, he's a bloody good poster, but with all those suggestions, it would shut up a lot of the NSB kids..

JAB5239

10-24-2009, 07:00 AM

No, he's a bloody good poster, but with all those suggestions, it would shut up a lot of the NSB kids..

Lol!!Just checking, my friend. Wanted to make sure you hadn't crossed over to the dark side.:notworthy

Silencers

10-24-2009, 07:34 AM

I think its about time you changed your screen name from Silencers to "The Source". Good God almighty! :biggthump

Or even 'Shutthefukup'

:lol1: Thanks guys. :beerchug:

mickey malone

10-24-2009, 09:09 AM

Lol!!Just checking, my friend. Wanted to make sure you hadn't crossed over to the dark side.:notworthy
The 'Darkside' lol.. There's an area in my old neighborhood, we referred to as that.. Did make me chuckle!

Dynamite Kid

10-24-2009, 10:23 AM

Iran Barkley also had good fights with Robbie Simms

That was an underrated fight.

Ruelas vs Paez
Mercer vs Cooper
Cooper vs Tillman
Gomez vs Derrik Holmes
Duran vs Nino Gonzalez
Duran vs Edwin Viruet 2
Mancini vs Bramble 1 or 2 ( these fights hardly ever get a mention and they were straight up wars, both fights)

Chacon vs Lopez
Arguello vs Olivares
Fernandez vs Duran
Moorer vs Botha
Pazienza vs Haugen 1+2
Witherspoon vs Mercer
Hopkins vs Echols 2, Mercado 1
Winky vs Vargas
Vargas vs Quartey (one of my fav fights, rarely gets a mention)
Mason vs Lewis
Bruno vs Witherspoon
Nunn vs Starling (i enjoyed it at least)
Tszyu vs Phillips

Benncollinsaad

10-24-2009, 10:28 AM

Barkley-Olajide was also a good fight.

Dynamite Kid

10-24-2009, 10:30 AM

Benncollinsaad

10-24-2009, 10:31 AM

Did anybody mention Thompson-Haye yet? Any fight with Carl Thompson is good really.

mrboxer

10-24-2009, 10:38 AM

We all know the epics but what fights do you love that get little mention?

Let's not try and be too obscure and go with fights only serious collectors and historians may know.

My pick is Dave "Boy" Mcauley vs Fidel Bassa (i forget the exact year - 80's) in an unbelievable up and down thriller.

Interested to hear your thoughts on any others but love to hear from anyone who saw the one I mentioned.i have never heard of these guys were did they fight in tim buck two,i thought you wanted fights that serious collectors and historians wanted:boxing::drillserg

Silencers

10-24-2009, 11:49 AM

Great list Silencer, particularly like these ones.

Barrios vs Freitas
Michael Carbajal vs Jorge Arce
Simon Brown vs Tyrone Trice
Jorge Arce vs Hussein Hussein 1

Jorge Arce vs Hussein Hussein 1
that fight you cannot **** with, its easily the epitome of a "Great fights that no one talks about"

Yeah, for pure action it was even better than the action packed main event between Morales and Pacquiao, great fight.

Hagler★

10-24-2009, 01:08 PM

I thought I knew a bit about boxing until I saw Silencers post :nonono: I have a long way to go to get on that kind of level

Silencers

10-24-2009, 01:17 PM

I thought I knew a bit about boxing until I saw Silencers post :nonono: I have a long way to go to get on that kind of level

I just had a lot of free time. :lol1: Can't be picky about what fights you watch, I pretty much watched every fight that I could find when I had more time both to study the fighters and to see if that fight was a good one.

Just this year there have been some really good fights that people seldom talk about like

Anthony Mundine vs Daniel Geale
Martin Rogan vs Sam Sexton
Martin Rogan vs Matt Skelton
Nathan Cleverly vs Danny McIntosh (A little one sided but hey)
Simone Califano vs Pasqual Di Silvio
Giacobbe Fragomeni vs Kryzstof Wlodarczyk
Carlos Abregu vs Irving Garcia
Jon Thaxton vs Tom Glover
Danny Williams vs Carl Baker

I hear the recent Ryan Rhodes vs Jamie Moore fight was a great one but I haven't watched it yet.

Dynamite Kid

10-24-2009, 08:25 PM

Silencers

10-24-2009, 11:35 PM

Orlando Canizalez vs Kelvin Seabrooks 1

You were right about this Silencer, terrific! fight.

Canizalez looked superb!

Yeah, that was the fight that convinced me that Canizales had some of the best footwork I've seen, the guy was moving in and out, little steps to the side etc. beautiful footwork.

Dynamite Kid

10-24-2009, 11:50 PM

Hearns vs Kinchen. I had it a lot closer than the judges had it, not that Kinchen won many that! rounds but he scored a KD and Hearns had a point taken in that round to make it 10/7 round. I gave Kinchen 5 rounds but some of those were sympathy rounds

I had it a draw in the end but if pushed to give it to someone i would have given it to Hearns because he won more rounds, that KD & the point taken is what made the fight closer.

Shadows

10-25-2009, 12:10 AM

Sorry if anyone already mentioned these fights, but Saad Muhammad-Lopez I and II are great fights that I rarely see talked about.

Silencers

10-25-2009, 12:16 AM

Shiranui

10-25-2009, 02:35 AM

There are plenty of fights which were higher profile in the past but get mentioned little by the average boxing fan. Arguello-Escalera II, Chacon-Limon IV, Carbajal-Gonzalez I, etc.

JAB5239

10-25-2009, 03:30 AM

I thought I knew a bit about boxing until I saw Silencers post :nonono: I have a long way to go to get on that kind of level

Lol, a lot of us do. But thats what is great about these forums, you get the chance to learn from some well educated boxing fans if you're willing to keep an open mind.

JAB5239

10-25-2009, 03:33 AM

There are plenty of fights which were higher profile in the past but get mentioned little by the average boxing fan. Arguello-Escalera II, Chacon-Limon IV, Carbajal-Gonzalez I, etc.

Were fighters like Chacon and Danny Lopez ever in a bad fight? God, they are fun to watch!

mhager91490

10-25-2009, 04:21 AM

Silencers

10-25-2009, 06:10 AM

A couple of fights on your list that I remember particularl fondly are:

Mark Kaylor-Errol Christie- Both fighters rocked heavily in the first round and it is war for the rest of the fights, Christie hits the deck a couple of more times later in the fight and it is stopped brutally. Kaylor's fans were going to be so rowdy for that fight that they were denied alchohol but they were still setting of firecrackers in the arena among other things, they were about as rowdy as a Tijijuana crowd.

Orlando Canizales-Kelvin Seabrooks- This is a textbook performance from Canizales, breaking an opponent down throughout the fight, he had such blazingly fast feet and the angles were just beautiful. I remember the crowd got excited when Seabrooks landed those rights in the third but they didn't even phase Orlando, he was in the zone that night.

Simon Brown-Tyrone Trice- I watched that fight earlier today and it is still as entertaining as ever, I enjoyed the late 80's-early 90's welters much more than DLH, Quartey, Trinidad and the others.

Kaylor-Christie was a great fight, they genuinely didn't like each other and it told during the fight and the crowd was electric which contributed to the excitement.

For sure that was one of Canizales' best performances, he was brilliant that night, Seabrooks, as was often the case with him, fought back valiantly. Seabrooks was like a small version of Matthew Saad Muhammad, rarely in a boring fight.

Brown-Trice 1 might have been one of the better welterweight title fights I have ever seen, great action and very good technique from both guys. Trice was fighting on instincts for the last few rounds of the fight.

Hagler★

10-26-2009, 02:04 PM

I just had a lot of free time. :lol1: Can't be picky about what fights you watch, I pretty much watched every fight that I could find when I had more time both to study the fighters and to see if that fight was a good one.

Just this year there have been some really good fights that people seldom talk about like

Anthony Mundine vs Daniel Geale
Martin Rogan vs Sam Sexton
Martin Rogan vs Matt Skelton
Nathan Cleverly vs Danny McIntosh (A little one sided but hey)
Simone Califano vs Pasqual Di Silvio
Giacobbe Fragomeni vs Kryzstof Wlodarczyk
Carlos Abregu vs Irving Garcia
Jon Thaxton vs Tom Glover
Danny Williams vs Carl Baker

I hear the recent Ryan Rhodes vs Jamie Moore fight was a great one but I haven't watched it yet.

I have seen these and the the Rhodes fight they were good fights, Rhodes really took Moore's legs away with that right hand to the point of the chin

Silencers

10-26-2009, 02:08 PM

I have seen these and the the Rhodes fight they were good fights, Rhodes really took Moore's legs away with that right hand to the point of the chin

Yeah, Moore showed great courage coming back the way he did after the knockdown but it wasn't enough, he was breathing through his mouth by round 4.

Hagler★

10-26-2009, 02:23 PM

I heard them say Rhodes will take on Chavez Jr now

Silencers

10-26-2009, 02:48 PM

I heard them say Rhodes will take on Chavez Jr now

I don't think it's a good fight for Chavez Jr. to take so I wouldn't be surprised if Top Rank passes on that fight, plus they're lining him up to fight Duddy next year first and there's no guarantee that Chavez Jr. will get past that with his undefeated record intact.

Trenchant

10-26-2009, 04:34 PM

Aaron pryor vs. Dujuan Johnson

David Tua vs Fres Oquendo

Benncollinsaad

11-03-2009, 11:56 AM

Razor vs Bonecrusher was an excellent, pulsating fight. First Bonecrusher sends Ruddock flying against the canvas in the second, then Razor takes over and blasts him away in the 7th. Razor Ruddock was a gift to heavyweight boxing, only a shame he didn't last longer as a top contender.

chavez2006

11-03-2009, 11:13 PM

Rosario-Ramirez II

Obdeboondocks

11-04-2009, 12:53 AM

copy and paste, copy and paste. awesomeness on all corners :fing02: