View Full Version : What was I thinking? Bad fight predictions.


blacklodge
10-23-2009, 05:18 AM
Even the most accute insight into boxing surely results in some bad picks, if not embarrassing ones. Surely everyone has at least one embarrassing pick. Confession time. And I don't mean Shane Mosely UD Winky Wright or Kelly Pavlik UD Hopkins. Some of my past highlights:

Jorge Paez UD Oscar De La Hoya- I think I let my bias overload my logic here. I don't know, man, I thought DLH hadn't been tested and Paez's speed, experience and movement would trouble him. Because I'm stupid.

Robert Allen TKO 10 Bernard Hopkins- For their 2nd fight. I had convinced myself that Hopkins was old and didn't like getting roughed up and faked injury to get out of their 1st fight. Again, stupid.

Trevor Berbick KO Mike Tyson- Hey, what do you want, I was 14.

Muhammad Abdullaev UD Miguel Cotto- For some reason I was so impressed by Abdullaev's destruction of Philip Holliday and Cotto's trouble with Corley it seemed like a virtual no-brainer.

Don't leave me hangin' here.

MANGLER
10-23-2009, 05:20 AM
I thought Bhop would lose a decision to Pavlik
thought DLH would KO poor lil Pac

mhager91490
10-23-2009, 05:42 AM
Ricky Hatton-Manny Pacquiao (Hatton late TKO)
Nikolay Valuev-Evander Holyfield (Valuev one-sided UD)
Paul Williams-Carlos Quintana II (Quintana one-sided UD)
Jorge Linares-Oscar Larios (Larios late TKO)
Juan Manuel Lopez-Daniel Ponce De Leon (Ponce De Leon early blowout)
Miguel Cotto-Shane Mosley (Mosley mid-round KO)

This is just to name a few, in all seriousness it is safe to assume that I have made the wrong pick in every major fight for the last ten years.

VibesMan
10-23-2009, 05:48 AM
Good thing about this thread is it highlights how unpredictable the game is and amuses me when I think about the modern day vs atg match ups.

We're all so sure that a prime (insert name from the past) murders prime (insert name of modern day) fighter yet struggle to predict a fight that could happen next week.

For the record I picked Spinks over Tyson and had this nagging feelin Lacy would do Jones. How's that for stupid!

mickey malone
10-23-2009, 06:45 AM
My worst has to be Roberto Duran to KO Thomas Hearns in the 4th lol

Bright-Eyes
10-23-2009, 07:01 AM
I thought Tyson was going to knock Lennox Lewis out.I was twelve years old and I remember all the hype for this fight and was convinced that Mike was going to beat Lennox pretty badly,my cousin to my shock said I was nuts for even thinking that would happen and I couldn't believe that he was so confident that Lewis would Destroy Tyson.

I also thought that after four years out that Vitali Klitschko would get knocked out by Sam Peter :ugh:

poet682006
10-23-2009, 01:20 PM
Holyfield - Tyson I (I picked Tyson by KO inside 5: Hey, I thought Evander was shot lol!)

Poet

Obama
10-23-2009, 01:28 PM
I do wonder if Holyfield's second loss to Bowe and loss to Moorer had any positive bearing on his defeat of Tyson. It definitely had a positive bearing on the odds of the fight... Tyson was a 10:1 favorite....

It just goes to show, research should be done on the physical conditions fighters enter fights with. Holyfield had a bum shoulder and heart problems against Moorer, and Hepatitis against Bowe. I know they used to call Tyson the baddest man on the planet, but that distinction should have gone to Holyfield. The man had no pull out, quit, or mental weaknesses in him.

Anyways my worst prediction ever was Jones to decision Calzaghe. I blame it on my urge to see Hopkins vs Jones II, which luckily is going to happen anyways. Whether or not Jones won or lost to Calzaghe, I predict Hopkins would beat him.

TheGreatA
10-23-2009, 01:33 PM
I do wonder if Holyfield's second loss to Bowe and loss to Moorer had any positive bearing on his defeat of Tyson. It definitely had a positive bearing on the odds of the fight... Tyson was a 10:1 favorite....

It just goes to show, research should be done on the physical conditions fighters enter fights with. Holyfield had a bum shoulder and heart problems against Moorer, and Hepatitis against Bowe. I know they used to call Tyson the baddest man on the planet, but that distinction should have gone to Holyfield. The man had no pull out, quit, or mental weaknesses in him.

I'd say Holyfield's performance against Bobby Czyz was a big factor as well. Just shows you that someone who has been used to fighting much bigger opponents for his whole career doesn't necessarily do better against smaller opponents, in Czyz's case a former middleweight.

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poet682006
10-23-2009, 01:35 PM
I'd say Holyfield's performance against Bobby Czyz was a big factor as well. Just shows you that someone who has been used to fighting much bigger opponents for his whole career doesn't necessarily do better against smaller opponents, in Czyz's case a former middleweight.

Sometimes it's just difficult to switch gears like that when you're not accustomed to doing something. Even when on paper it SHOULD be an easier task.....which is why they fight in the ring and not on paper :)

Poet

Obama
10-23-2009, 01:55 PM
At least he stopped Bobby in 5 rounds. It's not like Bobby won any rounds.

TheGreatA
10-23-2009, 02:00 PM
At least he stopped Bobby in 5 rounds. It's not like Bobby won any rounds.

He took some hits though and his own punches did not seem to hurt Bobby Czyz, Czyz just basically quit when he realized he had little chance of winning. Czyz did claim that some substance went into his eyes but I don't know about that.

At the same time Tyson was demolishing legit heavyweights inside 3 rounds.

Princemanspopa
10-23-2009, 02:17 PM
I know they used to call Tyson the baddest man on the planet, but that distinction should have gone to Holyfield. The man had no pull out, quit, or mental weaknesses in him.


Well not every professional prize fighter is Harold Johnson, dunce.

mickey malone
10-23-2009, 03:20 PM
He took some hits though and his own punches did not seem to hurt Bobby Czyz, Czyz just basically quit when he realized he had little chance of winning. Czyz did claim that some substance went into his eyes but I don't know about that.

At the same time Tyson was demolishing legit heavyweights inside 3 rounds.
While watching Holy Czyz, I clocked some of Ruiz Holy2.. Hadn't seen it in ages, and you have to say, If Ruiz got punched in the nuts more often, he'd be one hell of a fighter! lol

Evander was very lucky to finish on his feet in that one.. The old temple shot again, completely scrambles the brain.. Ruiz was badly marked and looked like a beaten man until the 11th.. Although he's boring, I think he showed incredible heart in that fight..

Kiid Dynamite
10-23-2009, 03:48 PM
Recently - ODLH putting a ass whooping on Pacquaio

toysale
10-23-2009, 04:43 PM
Hatton vs Pacquioa is my worst prediction, thought Hatton would have closed the show in the 2nd... enough said really.

McDermott vs Fury was a bad prediction as well, thought he'd have him within 6 with body shots but nope.

...and both of Margaritto's recent fights I guessed wrong, thought he'd beat Mosley and lose to Cotto. But besides that, my predictions have been alright I guess.

putaloco
10-23-2009, 05:11 PM
Cotto vs margarito.
First half of their fight gave me confidence to run my mouth (all in fun ofcourse) but i was forced to keep quiet the second! Lmao

Obama
10-23-2009, 06:45 PM
Well not every professional prize fighter is Harold Johnson, dunce.

This stuff doesn't get a rise out of me, pooperscooper.

laudium
10-23-2009, 07:05 PM
My bad picks

Morales LAte KO over Pac in the 2nd fight

De La Hoya by decision over Floyd - well, one judge and Mayweather snr thought Oscar won

Tyson KO Lewis inside 5

Holyfield UD over Lewis Rematch

Obama
10-23-2009, 09:12 PM
My bad picks

Morales LAte KO over Pac in the 2nd fight

De La Hoya by decision over Floyd - well, one judge and Mayweather snr thought Oscar won

Tyson KO Lewis inside 5

Holyfield UD over Lewis Rematch

That wasn't a bad pick. Holyfield did a lot better in the rematch. Some thought he won.

blacklodge
10-23-2009, 10:06 PM
That wasn't a bad pick. Holyfield did a lot better in the rematch. Some thought he won.

He would have won had he stuck with his jab instead of believing (I think) his own warrior hype and trying to get deep inside. Lewis had no answer for a good jab.

GJC
10-23-2009, 10:19 PM
Oh wow I've got some years in making bad predictions. Hatton beating Pac was my most recent classic. Liston over Ali BOTH fights god where do you want me to stop lol

GJC
10-23-2009, 10:34 PM
My worst has to be Roberto Duran to KO Thomas Hearns in the 4th lol

Oh Mickey you fool that was obviously going to be Duran in 8, I kind of rehashed my Tiger Torres prediction for that one!

GJC
10-23-2009, 10:59 PM
Oh Mickey you fool that was obviously going to be Duran in 8, I kind of rehashed my Tiger Torres prediction for that one!
Sorry meant Tiger Foster of course

Bushbaby
10-23-2009, 11:35 PM
Mosley-Margarito,I thought Margarito was gonna knock his head off!!But after the raining of blows upon the brow of Margarito,I figured out where I went wrong!!I didn't figure in that Mosley has actually beaten career 154 pounders & ko'd Vargas!!Plus he hung around with Winky!!Ohh & Pacman embarasing the Golden Boy!!

Brockton Lip
10-24-2009, 12:11 AM
Morales to UD Pac in their 3rd fight. I thought he'd have one last hurrah.
Margarito to beat Mosley by decision or late stoppage. Margarito was coming off a great win and Mosley had a very difficult fight against Mayorga.
I also thought DLH would defeat Pac by stoppage.

RightCross94
10-24-2009, 12:17 AM
De La Hoya by close decision vs Pac
Margarito UD Mosley
Pavlik UD Hopkins...not so bad as I did predict Kelly would look bad, but man I wasn't expecting the schooling

mickey malone
10-24-2009, 04:27 AM
Sorry meant Tiger Foster of course
I'm safe on that one as I hadn't quite aspired to making predictions by then.. I'll hold my hands up to Hatton Pac though (Hatton KO6)

It may happen again very shortly.. I've got Haye beating Valuev on points, and will probably alter that to KO between now and then.. It isn't anything to do with the heart ruling the head, because he's from London.. I just don't regard Valuev as a boxer, more of a circuis strongman really..
I'll admit to being over eager to see the back of him, as the only interesting fight he'll ever have is the one where he gets KTFO.. All I need now, is proof that there is a God!

ny123
10-24-2009, 04:31 AM
hopkins vs pavlik i thought pavlik would outwork hopkins and make him look old i was wrong as **** on that one
oscar vs pac pac didnt look great to me in that jmm fight and i thought hoya would be too strong for the pac man