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Spartacus Sully 10-22-2009, 07:05 PM All right so ive posted some bag videos before and im horrible. Essentially I cant make it to a gym so i record when ever i hit the bag play it back and watch my self to get better.
so heres a round i recorded from last week. looking for opinions advice but mainly just want to know if i'm on the right track kinda. so far from this video i see i need to pay more attention to keeping my right up twords the end of rounds.
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P4PKING_2010 10-22-2009, 08:30 PM You should keep your right hand out wide a bit further you are wide open for a left hook as you are now. And with your right hand further back you will be able to extend the punch further and get more power. As it is it has no power. You need to twist into that right hand. The jab it seems you flick it out when it would be best to aim for more power from the jab but don't flick it from your chin it looks lke a backhanded punch. The hooks were wild and you need to move your body with them and keep your hands up when going for a hook.
Not too bad tho but I would recommend joining a gym.
gratz_the_king 10-22-2009, 10:03 PM you are too stiff, use more upper body movement. be more fluid
peewee1460 10-22-2009, 10:23 PM get some how to vids at least. this fellas pretty legit. at least a good starting point.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-ugcABJna4
i know you said it's outside your means, but you should really get in a gym
Southpaw Stinger 10-22-2009, 10:29 PM Just work on the jab for now. You're just flicking it, the jab should be a weapon too.
Work a few rounds where you just focus on the jab then start adding straights then hooks.
peewee1460 10-22-2009, 10:43 PM another good one:
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somebody posted it in another thread, but it's some quality advice from frankie
fraidycat 10-22-2009, 11:48 PM Not too bad, IMO.
When you're at long attacking distance -- at the edge of your range -- you take a different guard than you use in close. And in that long attacking guard you are keeping your left out too far and then pulling it back to "chamber" it before you throw it. That's a very common rookie mistake. You can fix it by shadowboxing, with your gloves, in a mirror. (With bare hands, the way most people shadowbox, telegraphing is not as obvious as it is with gloves on.) Easy fix.
When you're inside and throwing hooks to the body, move with the bag more and pivot whichever way you need to so that the punch lands with some power. If you're going to use a light bag that moves that much, you should be moving as it moves. Sometimes you do this, sometimes you don't. If you're going to infight, stay in there like a pitbull on a pant leg.
Your chin's down, which is good, but your right hand should be higher to protect against a left hook.
And when you feint, feint with authority. Ideally, even you shouldn't know whether it's a feint or a real punch until it's on its way. Want to make it a feint? Throw it for real, then change your mind before it lands. That's a fencer's trick but it translates very well to boxing.
It's a little odd that you throw your right cross the way a southpaw throws his left cross, right down the middle and snappy instead of a freight train. What fighters do you watch?
Good stuff.
Spartacus Sully 10-23-2009, 06:00 AM You should keep your right hand out wide a bit further you are wide open for a left hook as you are now.
so just keep it alittle wider but i guess that means i have to practice flashing it in to block jabs. Next time i spar ill have to figure out if theres a good place thats inbetween still gurading the tip of my chin but also wide enough for left hooks.
Thanks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-ugcABJna4
as far as my jab well atleast im good at the flicking jab, right? just gotta work on my power jab now. err well i guess i have to work on moving my body better with the powerful and flicking jab, but the way he jabs wit the knuckles verticle is how i did it for quite some time so im some what good at it already thats how dempsey has you doing it in his book and thats what i had first read. so i just have to work on it and incorporate both into my routine.
Thanks
you take a different guard than you use in close. And in that long attacking guard you are keeping your left out too far and then pulling it back to "chamber" it before you throw it.
so i should just keep my left closer to my face most the time unless im tying to beat the guy to the punch like if he were faster then me or had a greater reach?
When you're inside and throwing hooks to the body, move with the bag more and pivot whichever way you need to so that the punch lands with some power. If you're going to use a light bag that moves that much, you should be moving as it moves. Sometimes you do this, sometimes you don't. If you're going to infight, stay in there like a pitbull on a pant leg.
move with the bag more? you mean like follow it foot work wise or do you mean just rotate my body with it more? also the bag is 110-120 lbs as im 205-208 what size bag would reccomend or should what i have be fine if i move around more?
And when you feint, feint with authority. Ideally, even you shouldn't know whether it's a feint or a real punch until it's on its way. Want to make it a feint? Throw it for real, then change your mind before it lands. That's a fencer's trick but it translates very well to boxing.
Didnt try to feint at all as far as i remember i just dont think i knew what i was doing or something. The fencers tip is nice though thanks.
It's a little odd that you throw your right cross the way a southpaw throws his left cross, right down the middle and snappy instead of a freight train. What fighters do you watch?
dont really watch much study wise, though i do enjoy dempsey, marciano, jeffries, and Bruce lee. for my right im just trying to remember to bring my right back to my face as quickly as possiable and i guess the way i do it is just the most comfortable for me.
I dont pivot on my right foot when i throw the straight right but i do come up alittle off my heel to start it off like an inch then right before i hit ill come up the last 2 or 3 inches as hard as i can. im guessing pivoting is done for the freight train punch or is that only for hooking?
thanks again
rskumm21 10-23-2009, 08:17 AM 1. Get a heavier bag;and no, wrapping a juniors bag in duct tape doesn't cut it.
2. If you've made up your mind that you're not going to ever bother going to a gym, you really shouldn't waste anymore time.
Nice polo shirt by the way. You know the look of a champion when he's wearing the finest threads from the mens department at k-mart.
Spartacus Sully 10-23-2009, 08:47 AM 1. Get a heavier bag;and no, wrapping a juniors bag in duct tape doesn't cut it.
its wrapped in duct tape because the sand comes out the seams when i hit it i mean it really is atleast 110...but ok how heavy do you think my bag should be 120? how heavy is your bag compared to your weight?
Im pretty sure the shirts not polo brand and i didnt get it at k mart if i got it any where it was at salvation army probably like 1 or 2 bucks, maybe even .50 cents.
Thanks for the advice but i plan to continue.
rskumm21 10-23-2009, 11:08 AM its wrapped in duct tape because the sand comes out the seams when i hit it i mean it really is atleast 110...but ok how heavy do you think my bag should be 120? how heavy is your bag compared to your weight?
Im pretty sure the shirts not polo brand and i didnt get it at k mart if i got it any where it was at salvation army probably like 1 or 2 bucks, maybe even .50 cents.
Thanks for the advice but i plan to continue.
110! Wow you must be so powerful... Nice try. That's a 60 lb bag. You're not fooling anyone. Unless you have someone holding the bag, you should be hitting one that's around 2/3 your weight or more. Now the shirt being from the Salvation Army, I can believe.
heavier bag whould be good you should feel ur punch in ur forearm and shulder when u make contact thats how u get stronger and ur footwork is pretty bad stop crosing ur feet other than that was ok for not being in a gym.
TheBlackSwifty 10-23-2009, 02:40 PM All right so ive posted some bag videos before and im horrible. Essentially I cant make it to a gym so i record when ever i hit the bag play it back and watch my self to get better.
so heres a round i recorded from last week. looking for opinions advice but mainly just want to know if i'm on the right track kinda. so far from this video i see i need to pay more attention to keeping my right up twords the end of rounds.
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You are the guy dishing out all the training advice like here
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=282802
but you look like a overweight lumberjack and cant box for ****. It makes me wonder how many others like you out there dishing out advice but canīt box.
Besides all that, boxing is about distance and timing, a centimetre or two can make all the difference. Thats why ya need to be able to punch at full extension, not these meathead punches with your arms not extending enough. Do some sparring and find out. Stand back and try to hit the bag at the furthest distance you can without losing balance, work or technique and speed not power.
Kiid Dynamite 10-23-2009, 02:44 PM Get your ass down to the gym and if you want a true comment
You SUCK
setza 10-23-2009, 06:35 PM Straighten your punches and make sure you find your range
Spartacus Sully 10-24-2009, 01:30 AM 110! Wow you must be so powerful... Nice try. That's a 60 lb bag. You're not fooling anyone. Unless you have someone holding the bag, you should be hitting one that's around 2/3 your weight or more. Now the shirt being from the Salvation Army, I can believe.
weather or not you belive its 110 thats fine. thank you for the answer so about 140 would be best for me if not more. I can make a vid where i take the bag off the hook and put it on a scale but i really have no need to prove anything to you unless you really want me to. and are you actually say that if it really is 110 than i am some what powerful or was that sarcastic either way i look at it?
You are the guy dishing out all the training advice like here
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=282802
but you look like a overweight lumberjack and cant box for ****. It makes me wonder how many others like you out there dishing out advice but canīt box.
Yeah i gave him some training advice yes, what do you disagree with it. I try not to give boxing advice and stick with more so exercise advice. and i am alittle over weight and as well i enjoy the lumberjack persona. Im at 20-23% bf i just did the scranton marathon and it took me 5hr and 15 mins i mean thats horriable there was only like 150 people slower then me out of the 2.5k that ran.
what % 1 rep max are you benching and adding to your dips i would reccomend maybe 3 sets of 20-40 dips not weighted and 3 sets of 20-40 benching 40-60% 1 rep max
I would probably stretch for about 2 sets 30 seconds each the muscle being worked inbetween each set of benching, dips, bridges, and situps mainly the arms shoulders chest then back and abs. from jump rope to shadow dosnt really matter when you stretch.
perhaps do a good job stretching your legs in the 15 min cool down'
what kind of situps are you doing? I do these situps where i have my hands over my head and do a full sit up and try to touch my toes or not but just do the motion its good for your serratus anterior and intercostals that extra motion of moving your hands above your head to towards your toes. and try not to have your toes under anything but make sure your on a soft surface as to not hurt your back.
maybe try some pull ups? wide grip close grip both are good but i would do more close grip more range of movement.
you dont have to do any of this but i would recommend if anything the stretching between sets or some kind of modification of it. like 3 sets of 10 seconds or something for the muscle thats being worked in the exercise. if you start doing pull ups i would recommend the same stretching
Besides all that, boxing is about distance and timing, a centimetre or two can make all the difference. Thats why ya need to be able to punch at full extension, not these meathead punches with your arms not extending enough. Do some sparring and find out. Stand back and try to hit the bag at the furthest distance you can without losing balance, work or technique and speed not power.
thanks for the advice
heavier bag whould be good you should feel ur punch in ur forearm and shulder when u make contact thats how u get stronger and ur footwork is pretty bad stop crosing ur feet other than that was ok for not being in a gym.
i feel it in my fore arm and right below my bicep in my elbow area. i have another pair of gloves that are just thin gloves like speed bag gloves that ill throw like 40 wind ups with each arm and my whole arm feels that shudder though the bag is pretty much solid sand so that might have something to do why i feel it so much with thinner gloves.
mrboxer 10-24-2009, 09:32 AM your hands are getting better,dont slouch to much it slows you down,also try slipping to the right a little more,if you shadow box in front of a mirror you will see what you are doing and you will be able to make adjustments,:boxing:
arnoldming 10-25-2009, 10:16 PM nothing to be in horrible.
them_apples 10-26-2009, 01:07 AM All right so ive posted some bag videos before and im horrible. Essentially I cant make it to a gym so i record when ever i hit the bag play it back and watch my self to get better.
so heres a round i recorded from last week. looking for opinions advice but mainly just want to know if i'm on the right track kinda. so far from this video i see i need to pay more attention to keeping my right up twords the end of rounds.
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you are getting better. so you are on the right track. try not to fling your elbow into your straight (just extend straight and use your hips and shoulder)..remember to jerk your hips into your hooks as well.
looking good
IBox85 10-26-2009, 04:36 PM You are the guy dishing out all the training advice like here
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=282802
but you look like a overweight lumberjack and cant box for ****. It makes me wonder how many others like you out there dishing out advice but canīt box.
Besides all that, boxing is about distance and timing, a centimetre or two can make all the difference. Thats why ya need to be able to punch at full extension, not these meathead punches with your arms not extending enough. Do some sparring and find out. Stand back and try to hit the bag at the furthest distance you can without losing balance, work or technique and speed not power.
i seen great fighters in their days... and they cant coach for nothing... and i also seen some very shi*ty fighters that were a success at coaching... kinda like if i were to video tape myself on the heavybag i would be quick to notice my mistakes... but it would taker longer for me to fix it and get it right u know?? you r right though... this guy isnt the greatest on the bag but his advice and oponions are ahead of that... no disrespect to the both of yous
rskumm21 10-26-2009, 06:50 PM i seen great fighters in their days... and they cant coach for nothing... and i also seen some very shi*ty fighters that were a success at coaching... kinda like if i were to video tape myself on the heavybag i would be quick to notice my mistakes... but it would taker longer for me to fix it and get it right u know?? you r right though... this guy isnt the greatest on the bag but his advice and oponions are ahead of that... no disrespect to the both of yous
I'd rather take advice from a pile of ****; Oh, wait a minute...
Spartacus Sully 10-26-2009, 11:39 PM I'd rather take advice from a pile of ****; Oh, wait a minute...
Well of all the people to take advice from i'm sure you'd rather just listen to your self.
Spartacus Sully 10-26-2009, 11:40 PM Unless you have someone holding the bag, you should be hitting one that's around 2/3 your weight or more.
surprisingly enough it seems piles of **** actually can give advice.
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