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Dynamite76
03-24-2005, 10:10 PM
Did Aaron Pryor ever sign to fight Howard? It would have been a helluva fight for about six or seven rounds, but Aaron would have eventually knocked out Howard in the tenth round. :)

fight fan
03-28-2005, 09:13 PM
Did Aaron Pryor ever sign to fight Howard? It would have been a helluva fight for about six or seven rounds, but Aaron would have eventually knocked out Howard in the tenth round. :)

I cannot remember whether he and Pryor ever were close to fighting but I will say that Howard Davis Jr had a very strange career! I saw Howard Davis back when he was king at the NY Golden Gloves tournaments and he was phenominal! He became a Gold medalist with the great 76 Olympic team, but when he turned pro he never really became what everyone expected of him. I would love to know what happened? Personal issues, management problems..................???

Howard Davis and Aaron Pryor would have been a good fight. It could have been similar to Leonard/Duran I

Dynamite76
04-03-2005, 05:52 PM
I cannot remember whether he and Pryor ever were close to fighting but I will say that Howard Davis Jr had a very strange career! I saw Howard Davis back when he was king at the NY Golden Gloves tournaments and he was phenominal! He became a Gold medalist with the great 76 Olympic team, but when he turned pro he never really became what everyone expected of him. I would love to know what happened? Personal issues, management problems..................???

Howard Davis and Aaron Pryor would have been a good fight. It could have been similar to Leonard/Duran I


I recently read an interview Howard did concerning his career and he stated that after his fifth professional fight, he just didn't love boxing anymore.Strange, he had to go through losing three title fights he could have won and not fighting fighters with titles that he could have beaten after figuring this out. I'm probably in the minority, but it's his fault he never won a title.

fight fan
04-05-2005, 02:43 PM
I recently read an interview Howard did concerning his career and he stated that after his fifth professional fight, he just didn't love boxing anymore.Strange, he had to go through losing three title fights he could have won and not fighting fighters with titles that he could have beaten after figuring this out. I'm probably in the minority, but it's his fault he never won a title.

Well that explains his very disappointing career! I find it strange that someone with that talent who had fought since he was a child all the way through to the world class amateur status and a gold medal to top it off, would lose his feelings for the sport when all his hard work was about to $PAY$ off??????? We would have to be in his shoes to understand, but as you say, "it was his own fault" that he never earned world titles!!

Dynamite76
04-06-2005, 04:46 AM
Well that explains his very disappointing career! I find it strange that someone with that talent who had fought since he was a child all the way through to the world class amateur status and a gold medal to top it off, would lose his feelings for the sport when all his hard work was about to $PAY$ off??????? We would have to be in his shoes to understand, but as you say, "it was his own fault" that he never earned world titles!!


I know what you mean! After reading the interview, I felt a bit of disgust for him, though Howard seems like a nice guy.It has always bothered me when these super-talented guys make light of certain issues.Davis should have been great and the list of fighters he could have beaten at 140 and a couple at 135 fall off my tongue pretty easily:Haley, Noel, Frias, Mancini, Bumphus, Hatcher, Costello, and Curry are several. If he had the right trainer and the right people, who knows. Like you say, we would have to be in his shoes to understand, but on the surface, it's one of the saddest stories in boxing.

Rspen46
07-06-2013, 02:47 AM
Davis had no power at LW, so at JWW he probably hits even less, so Pryor takes him, but at LW, Davis has a very good shot at winning a decision, but since Pryor who started at LW, ran as fast as he could to JWW before fighting 1 LW bout, why, because LW was absolutely loaded & over the next 1-3 yrs. had even excellent fighters moving in, Pryor would have had his hands full at LW, I thought Davis would win a title at LW, but I guess that interview explains it all.

He was very fast & quick but his lack of power & apparent interest in the game brought him down.

CHEECH
07-06-2013, 11:00 PM
There u go again, pryor wasn't network backed so he'da fought anyone 135 or 140. davis was a network fighter so if he woulda wanted to he coulda made a pryor fight. but y would he? story goes that pryor was too dangerous for davis to keep as a sparring partner so we know who didn't want who. as for davis, I don't see any sadness in multiple network dates and 3 title shots tho if u were following the game at the time, u know the mcgirt fight was one davis wasn't gonna win, he was comin back outta retirement for that one as an easy defense for mcgirt. but even if u don't coun that, he had two shots with watt n Rosario so if u don't get a belt in two shots, u stilldam lucky to get 2 shots when most wont see even one. u feel me? any old ex fighter old as me remember the watt fight from like glascow or something like that? I thinking fake right circle left n when u get at the right spot drill himwith the rightcross, circle out back left n repeat. wtf so hard about that? mix in some left hooks behind the right cross n press in alternatively workin both hands or tyin up. I know easier said than done but It was like davis was petrified in there. swear to god, true story, I wrote in my lit journal in high school that if I was over 18, i'd done fought watt n had a belt already. embarrassing when u think about it but we on the internet so y not b honest u know?

atomicsad
07-07-2013, 09:11 AM
Awhile back I read that Davis was a vegetarian. Any possibility that was why he wasn't very strong, he was a light puncher and didn't take a good punch?

Dynamite76
07-11-2013, 12:48 PM
Awhile back I read that Davis was a vegetarian. Any possibility that was why he wasn't very strong, he was a light puncher and didn't take a good punch?

Wow, it's been over eight years! I read that info also, I kinda felt that was also part of the problem, along with the whole management thing and lack of interest.I will admit, him and Kenty would made a great pro fight.

Rspen46
07-11-2013, 03:36 PM
I agree about Kenty, I don't know who would have won Kenty had a little more power, but who wanted it the most, would have been the winner, due to lack of Heart & desire on both their parts, Kenty would have given anyone a good fight until his will to win it gave out.

Scott9945
07-11-2013, 11:10 PM
Awhile back I read that Davis was a vegetarian. Any possibility that was why he wasn't very strong, he was a light puncher and didn't take a good punch?

Eder Jofre was a vegetarian. And he only lost to one fighter in his entire hall of fame career.

Miburo
07-11-2013, 11:44 PM
From what I heard, Pryor was hired as a sparring partner for Davis after the Olympics and was fired because he consistently dominated him.

rightsideup
07-12-2013, 07:21 PM
It is kinda interesting that Gil Clancy recommended that Howard be the house fighter of his network over Ray Leonard siting problem's Ray was having with his hands as an amateur.

Scott9945
07-12-2013, 10:39 PM
It is kinda interesting that Gil Clancy recommended that Howard be the house fighter of his network over Ray Leonard siting problem's Ray was having with his hands as an amateur.

Leonard really did have chronic problems with his hands throughout his career. He just turned out to be good enough to overcome it. Ali also had the same problem.

rightsideup
07-13-2013, 01:28 AM
Leonard really did have chronic problems with his hands throughout his career. He just turned out to be good enough to overcome it. Ali also had the same problem.so did carmine basilio and angie Dundee would wrap all three of these atg's hand's.

theproof
07-14-2013, 07:59 AM
if I remember correctly howard beat aaron a few times in the amateurs / juniors easily. in some of the sparring sessions he made pryor look awful so aaron tried to make every session a brawl which is not good at all getting ready for a fight. when that happens most fighters leave all the fight in them at the gym and have nothing left fight time. for those of you who don't know. howard didn't even like fighting at all especially if things didn't go his way. still one of the best I ever fought. better than ray, better than hearns, pryor, benetez etc. skill wise.

CHEECH
07-15-2013, 03:49 PM
what i read back in the day was that pryor beat davis in the oly trials but lost later in the box offs n both fights were very close. just my opinion but at the pro game howard wasnt better than any of them guys but he was freaky fast. all them guys were fast too but davis was faster. remember when he was older n brought in as an opponent but still drew with meldrick n gave camacho a good run

Dynamite76
07-15-2013, 04:59 PM
what i read back in the day was that pryor beat davis in the oly trials but lost later in the box offs n both fights were very close. just my opinion but at the pro game howard wasnt better than any of them guys but he was freaky fast. all them guys were fast too but davis was faster. remember when he was older n brought in as an opponent but still drew with meldrick n gave camacho a good run

Actually, I think Aaron never beat Howard but he lost two 3-2 decisions that were debatable.That draw was a good accomplishment for Howard, and, personally, if Camacho had caught Howard around '83, possible tighter fight in scoring.

Dynamite76
07-15-2013, 05:03 PM
I agree about Kenty, I don't know who would have won Kenty had a little more power, but who wanted it the most, would have been the winner, due to lack of Heart & desire on both their parts, Kenty would have given anyone a good fight until his will to win it gave out.

That was a great point about Kenty, once his will ran out, forget about it.Mancini is another fight I wish could have been made for Howard, looking on it now, Mancini probably would've won, but who knows.