Is this guy any good or it's just a bum for Vargas to KO..

Joval has never been knocked out but I thinks it's due to happen.His previous opponent Sam Soliman was not known for his power,but was still able to floor Joval a few times early in their rematch.Joval was out on his feet many times and lost every single round against Soliman.That fight showed that Joval is clearly a washed up fighter.

I expect Vargas to walk through Joval and KO him within 4rds.

hopfully varg-ASS isnt as done or washed up as joval is, if he doesnt knock him out within 5 varg-ASS is gonna go nowhere fast

Joval has never been knocked out but I thinks it's due to happen.His previous opponent Sam Soliman was not known for his power,but was still able to floor Joval a few times early in their rematch.Joval was out on his feet many times and lost every single round against Soliman.That fight showed that Joval is clearly a washed up fighter.

I expect Vargas to walk through Joval and KO him within 4rds.

Yeah Soloman made Joval look like a fool, If Fernando can't tear through him fairly easily it will be obvious hes a shot fighter.

I'd imagine Joval is just a tune-up fight. I understand that Trinidad came back after a long layover to fight a tough opponent, but the difference remains that Vargas went through rehab for a serious and legitimate back injury prior to returning. That sort of thing changes a lot.

I think he's making a smart decision by coming back to an easy fight before jumping into the ocean and seeing if he can swim with the big fish. There's no rush, he's still young.

Fernando Carcas is done
he may beat this guy
but so what
he may knock out this guy
but so what
ive yet to hear in his interviews him say that his back is 100percent
i think hes saven it for his fall back excuse when he loses
plus he just sux anyways

Fernando Carcas is done
he may beat this guy
but so what
he may knock out this guy
but so what
ive yet to hear in his interviews him say that his back is 100percent
i think hes saven it for his fall back excuse when he loses
plus he just sux anyways

I absolutely despise it when people, in a pure act of ignorance, say that a fighter sucks despite his accomplishments. Fernando Vargas may have lost to Felix Trinidad and Oscar De La Hoya, but since when does this make you suck? Trinidad and DLH are two of the most respected athletes in the sport right now.

Vargas is a talented fighter with good reflexes, powerful punches, and indomitable heart. Give him some credit for god sakes.

I absolutely despise it when people, in a pure act of ignorance, say that a fighter sucks despite his accomplishments. Fernando Vargas may have lost to Felix Trinidad and Oscar De La Hoya, but since when does this make you suck? Trinidad and DLH are two of the most respected athletes in the sport right now.

Vargas is a talented fighter with good reflexes, powerful punches, and indomitable heart. Give him some credit for god sakes.
yeah he was able to floor tito in the 4th or 5th and DLH said that his punching power surprised him :eek:

Yep, yep. I'm looking forward to seeing how he performs after his come back. Though it's impossible not to see that the odds are against any athlete who comes out of retirement.

I absolutely despise it when people, in a pure act of ignorance, say that a fighter sucks despite his accomplishments. Fernando Vargas may have lost to Felix Trinidad and Oscar De La Hoya, but since when does this make you suck? Trinidad and DLH are two of the most respected athletes in the sport right now.

Vargas is a talented fighter with good reflexes, powerful punches, and indomitable heart. Give him some credit for god sakes.
who said i said that cuz he lost to them?
i thought he sucked b4 he ever fought tito
yeah he was able to floor tito in the 4th or 5th and DLH said that his punching power surprised him :eek:
THATS CUZ HE WAS ON THE JUICE!!!!

I am curious to see if Vargas' back is completely healed, as well as his weight situation. I know that he blew up when he was not training, and I hope:

he does not look like he has been on the couch for 2 years. That would be a big problem for him against a slick fighter in Joval. However Joval being featherfisted.
whats with the new joppy fixation

whats with the new joppy fixation

Bored, and tired of the usual run of the mill middleweights. For once, I would like to give the dark horse some credit for being a 3 time world champ, in light of putting up with his excuses.

I still think he has a chance at cleaning up the Junior middle division, and giving some europeans hell.

Plus, I actually like the guy. Wierd huh?
Maybe it is because I watched his fight with Jonothan Reid, and Howard Eastman and was impressed like never before with his skill as a boxer.

Nice avatar Run...but Joppy sucks..

Don't get my wrong bro, Joppy went toe to toe against Trinidad and fought like a man, but I lost all respect for him when he fought Taylor...he acted like a clown in that fight

i think vargas time has ran out...bad back..hes moved up and weight and cant take a punch so he may win this fight..but the next fight hell lose

That was thouroughly unimpressive, and I think out of complete frustration from loosing the early rounds. I was not happy with that, but I forgave him shortly after. He just needs another chance against either:

Calzaghe, Allen, Sturm, or Lacy. Last fight or not, the last hoorah for the former 3time champ. :)(though more than likely seriously outgunned by them all except allen).
ya right
allen
beating allen wound tprove ****
i dont think he beats calzaghe
hes heaveir
plus he seems to be a hard hitter from a hear
he was completely demotivated once taylor hit him
imagine how hed run once he felt lacys power
sturm i think would be a good fight
but for sturm