he needs a loss just to let him know hes not invincable......i hope castillo moves up to fight him.......seriously mayweather has all the talent in the world but he needsto shut up and fight and stop complaining about ppv fights

he needs a loss just to let him know hes not invincable......i hope castillo moves up to fight him.......seriously mayweather has all the talent in the world but he needsto shut up and fight and stop complaining about ppv fights

Castillo move up? like that would do anything...Floyd already owns Castillo...end of story...

Can you even imagine what he would sound like if he beat Oscar De La Hoya?

he needs a loss just to let him know hes not invincable......i hope castillo moves up to fight him.......seriously mayweather has all the talent in the world but he needsto shut up and fight and stop complaining about ppv fights
That is dumb. Look how much **** Zab talks. Man please. Stop hating. Do you get mad when you hear Ali talk ****

Can you even imagine what he would sound like if he beat Oscar De La Hoya?
I would luv it

actually it does bug me when judah starts talking alot.......and if floyd beats dlh hell call out roy jones lol

like what pretty boy said.. on pound for pounds quote thang... e gon run his mouth till someone can shut him up... i hope gatti knock some sense into this guy...

like what pretty boy said.. on pound for pounds quote thang... e gon run his mouth till someone can shut him up... i hope gatti knock some sense into this guy...
i highly doubt gatti is going to be th one

yea i agree.. but hopefully...

actually it does bug me when judah starts talking alot.......and if floyd beats dlh hell call out roy jones lol
I understand what you are saying but thats what makes sports great and in paticular boxing. I dont want all these guys to act the same and act all quiet and humble. I want a bunch of different flavors so I dont mine a littile ****yness. All the best fighters are ****y anyway. All of them talk ****. Its just that Floyd takes it to another level but thats just him

I really really hope that gatti wins this fight. Like was said i dont that will happen but i'll be pulling for gatti. Hey, does anyone know what size of a ring there fighting in..... i really hope its small, im sick of floyd fighting in the huge rings and just running and popping untill his opponent is so weary that he can just ko them.. Like to see him and gatti in a nice small ring that way he WILL get hit..

Can you even imagine what he would sound like if he beat Oscar De La Hoya?
yea but then again it won't be as great considering people say oscar has lost a step or two

That is dumb. Look how much **** Zab talks. Man please. Stop hating. Do you get mad when you hear Ali talk ****
No, he's right. Mayweather needs to take an ass-kicking just to be taught some humility. Nothing humbles a guy like a really, really close look at the canvas and the slow crawl back to your feet, courtesy a big punch.

yeah, i repsect floyd's skills, but he definatley needs to get KTFO... i think tszyu could do it.... and i think forrest(if he ever get back in the game) would give him absolute hell.....

I would luv it

i would to. he knows he's the best and he wants everyone else to know it to.......cause he is.
imagine if floyd was all modest like glen johnson.....BORING

i would to. he knows he's the best and he wants everyone else to know it to.......cause he is.
imagine if floyd was all modest like glen johnson.....BORING

johnson wasn't boring when put roy jones in that coma....

thats hitting below the belt guru
floyd's not boring when he fights or talks, i like to see him confident and ****y, it only makes it more interesting.

i would to. he knows he's the best and he wants everyone else to know it to.......cause he is.
imagine if floyd was all modest like glen johnson.....BORING

I agree that Glen Johnson is not setting the world on fire with his prescence outside the ring. But damn there is a TON of middle ground between Johnson and Floyd. Floyd talks so much **** I'm surprised he doesn't wear Depends around his mouth. I don't think Gatti will be able to humble him. He will most likely come out of it talking more **** and saying he deserves to be the best paid boxer ever. But damn I can still hope it does. And I too would like to know if it is a small ring, that would up his hopes slightly. And if I hear one more time about slave wages I'm going to jump up in the ring, grab Floyd and let Gatti pound on him like Floyd 'allegedly' did to his girlfriends.

thats hitting below the belt guru
floyd's not boring when he fights or talks, i like to see him confident and ****y, it only makes it more interesting.


lol, i know but i couldnt resist... i'd like to see floyd back up his tough talk by taking on some guys that have a good chance of beating him, not these big underdogs... he's gotta face cotto, tszyu, harris, oscar or zab soon....

That is dumb. Look how much **** Zab talks. Man please. Stop hating. Do you get mad when you hear Ali talk ****That's real though, let the man talk, if he can back it up, than it isn't talking ****...

Whatever he has said is true. He's the best fighter in the world. Hopkins gets the #1 spot out of respect for holding down his division for so long and dominating at that but Floyd Mayweather is the best fighter in the world.

I'm seriously thinking about going pro and fighting Mayweather.

personally i would to see mayweather get his azzzzzz destroyed........i don't like guys that talk hella sh1t and runn around in the ring.i do like it when mayorga talks sh1t cuz he don't run around he ****ing brings his crazy azz not to box but 2 fight.and hes funny.

I really really hope that gatti wins this fight. Like was said i dont that will happen but i'll be pulling for gatti. Hey, does anyone know what size of a ring there fighting in..... i really hope its small, im sick of floyd fighting in the huge rings and just running and popping untill his opponent is so weary that he can just ko them.. Like to see him and gatti in a nice small ring that way he WILL get hit..
Have you seen Floyd lately? He is much more offensive now. He doesnt move that much. He likes to sit down and trade ant he will do it to Gatti and stop him

lol, i know but i couldnt resist... i'd like to see floyd back up his tough talk by taking on some guys that have a good chance of beating him, not these big underdogs... he's gotta face cotto, tszyu, harris, oscar or zab soon....
What are you talking about? Floyd has one of the best resume's out there. Him and Zoo are on different networks but if they both come away with a victory in June then you might see it. Cotto is too green for Floyd and Arum isnt dump enough to put him in there with Floyd. He couldnt fight Harris because he would lose the Gatti fight but he would destroy Harris.

He doesnt move that much. He likes to sit down and trade ant he will do it to Gatti and stop him

He will not, no sir. Would you like to bet on that. There is no way he will go toe-to-toe with Gatti for long periods of time and come out the better for it. He will try to outbox Gatti.

De La Hoya punches a lot harder than Floyd. Floyd don't have the kind of power to stop Gatti that quick and plus, Gatti was on his feet and Nady stopped that fight...it's not as if Gatti was KO'd.

What are you talking about? Floyd has one of the best resume's out there. Him and Zoo are on different networks but if they both come away with a victory in June then you might see it. Cotto is too green for Floyd and Arum isnt dump enough to put him in there with Floyd. He couldnt fight Harris because he would lose the Gatti fight but he would destroy Harris.

floyd's recent opposition is not too hot, gatti will make 3 vastly inferior opponents in a row..... after the gatti fight i want floyd to fight someone who can give him a challenge like harris, zoo, oscar, zab or even cotto...

Cotto is no higher than Gatti in my opinion. Well, I mean to say if they fought each other it would be a bad style matchup for Cotto. Gatti can bang and Cotto can be banged. Floyd would have about a 80% of not losing to Cotto in my opinion.

yeah, but cotto can match up better with floyd who's not a banger... cotto has a better chance of beating floyd than gatti, IMO...

Gatti WILL kayo floyd, floyd has no respect for gatti and he probably wont train as hard as he should, plus gatti is going to be in the best shape of his life, he knows this fight could define his career, with one punch gatti could put himself in the hall of fame and elevate him to legendary status, Gatti kayo in the 8th round

Gatti WILL kayo floyd, floyd has no respect for gatti and he probably wont train as hard as he should, plus gatti is going to be in the best shape of his life, he knows this fight could define his career, with one punch gatti could put himself in the hall of fame and elevate him to legendary status, Gatti kayo in the 8th round

Man I hope so..I really, really, really do! I'm banking on Floyd not taking him serious, but Gatti will always have a punchers chance in against just about anybody!

I'm going to this fight. I'm rooting for Gatti. I really hope Gatti wins. If Gatti wins the place will go nuts! But I am a realist and know, as Larry would say re Gatti's chances, "Slim is on the train but none hasn't left yet" (something like that)

I'm going to this fight. I'm rooting for Gatti. I really hope Gatti wins. If Gatti wins the place will go nuts! But I am a realist and know, as Larry would say re Gatti's chances, "Slim is on the train but none hasn't left yet" (something like that)

Totally different fighters I know, but nobody thought that Glen Johnson or Antonio Tarver would ko Jones either..so theres something to hold on to! I think Hopkins taking DLH out with a body shot caught a few off gaurd a bit too..so I wont dismiss anything til it's all over. too many upsets of late :eek:

Upsets happen. Nobody thought Danny Williams is goona beat Tyson but he did and Danny was much bigger underdog than Gatti. So there is definately something to hold on to. Nobody even gave Johnson a chance against Jones Jr. but he did it on pure bravery and heart alone and everybody knows that bravery and heart is Gatti's biggest asset. And I will definately will root for Gatti.

But I am a realist and know, as Larry would say re Gatti's chances, "Slim is on the train but none hasn't left yet" (something like that)

haha.

Larry:

I was visiting the gift shop downtown today, and I saw a "bobble-head" doll. Gatti is reminding me...of a "bobble-head" doll in the ring tonight.

i hope gatti stuffs his right hand into mayweather's mouth so he'll shut da **** up

You guys are snorting some serious **** if you think Gatti will KO Floyd. Gatti has fought only one elite fighter in his career(DLH) and got his ass obliterated. Now he is facing someone faster and more defensive sound. His chances in this fight are very slim. The last we saw Floyd this mad was when he fought Corralles and you know what happened to him. This fight is a stepping stone to Tszyu. I say that because DLH won't fight him.

I think Mayweather ( aka The USA ) defeats Gatti (AKA Canada) when they fight!

I gotta say that I'm somewhat disappointed with Mayweather's comments regarding the classy Arturro Gatti during his press conference. However, "Pretty Boy" Floyd continues to be one of my favorite fighters of all-time, and I'm confident he'll win a 12-round unanimous decision over Gatti on the 25th.

Don't get me wrong...Gatti is an extremely gifted and talented fighter. He has a granite chin like no other, a heart like no other, and the ability to change his style from boxer to brawler at the drop of a jab. I just think that when you put two fighters together, one who is in his prime, and the other who is ten years passed his prime, you can almost rest assured who is going to stand victorious in the end. Look at the history of the sport.

Upsets happen. Nobody thought Danny Williams is goona beat Tyson but he did and Danny was much bigger underdog than Gatti. So there is definately something to hold on to. Nobody even gave Johnson a chance against Jones Jr. but he did it on pure bravery and heart alone and everybody knows that bravery and heart is Gatti's biggest asset. And I will definately will root for Gatti.

Absolutely! ;)

I'm seriously thinking about going pro and fighting Mayweather.


...because you want brain damage?

Upsets happen. Nobody thought Danny Williams is goona beat Tyson but he did and Danny was much bigger underdog than Gatti. So there is definately something to hold on to. Nobody even gave Johnson a chance against Jones Jr. but he did it on pure bravery and heart alone and everybody knows that bravery and heart is Gatti's biggest asset. And I will definately will root for Gatti.

Tyson was washed up.
RJJ was suffering from equilibrium problems from weight loss.
PBF is in supreme condition, top 5 on earth.

Those are bad comparisons.

I mean: I was shocked when Rubio beat JC Candelo, but hey. he was the "favorite". Works both ways like a dutch door.

...because you want brain damage?

No, because I can carry 140lbs. and I have what it takes to beat the man.

No, because I can carry 140lbs. and I have what it takes to beat the man.

i see...so you already have brain damage...j/k

so how will you beat floyd if you don't mind me asking?

if floyd is really taking Gatti as lightly as he says he is then MARK MY WORDS HE WILL GET KNOCKED THE **** OUT. Nobody should take a champion lightly I don't care if you have all the talent in the world (like Floyd appears at times to have) anyone can be ko'ed and he may be well on his way to finding that truth out the hard way!

Floyd will get KO'd. They all do, eventually.

That said, Gatti's going to lose badly.

Tangent: Tszyu isn't the fighter I'd most like to see Floyd square off with, for me it has to be Zab Judah. If the sparring tales are anything to go by, that fight would be a guaranteed classic. I hope their friendship isn't as strong as their ambition.

Tyson was washed up.
RJJ was suffering from equilibrium problems from weight loss.
PBF is in supreme condition, top 5 on earth.

Those are bad comparisons.

I mean: I was shocked when Rubio beat JC Candelo, but hey. he was the "favorite". Works both ways like a dutch door.
That excuse for Roy is the funniest ****in thing I've heard in a long time, Equilibrium issues due to weight loss huh? Wow man I'll have to remember that next time someone gets knocked the **** out by a clean punch to the temple, I'll be sure to ask them if they have lost any significant weight recently! CLASSIC DUDE LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Floyd will get KO'd. They all do, eventually.

That said, Gatti's going to lose badly.

Tangent: Tszyu isn't the fighter I'd most like to see Floyd square off with, for me it has to be Zab Judah. If the sparring tales are anything to go by, that fight would be a guaranteed classic. I hope their friendship isn't as strong as their ambition.
Well what did you hear, because from what I hear, Floyd whooped him but I dont know for sure

i see...so you already have brain damage...j/k

so how will you beat floyd if you don't mind me asking?

I'm going to destroy the body. Forget about the head, I'm only going to eat the body, I'm going to hit him in the body and never give him a chance to do what he wants to do. If he protects the body, he'll get caught with uppercuts. Floyd Mayweather is vulnerable to lead uppercuts and overhands, but forget about all that ****...I only want the body.

Well what did you hear, because from what I hear, Floyd whooped him but I dont know for sure

Yeah, I think Floyd was supposed to have come out on top. I cant remember the site where I read about it, but I think it was an interview with Hasim Rahman (who had seen the session), I just remeber him saying it was a hell of a fight.

i'd rather see a mayweather/mosley fight over a dlh/mayweather.smaller money but a better fight.

I'm going to destroy the body. Forget about the head, I'm only going to eat the body, I'm going to hit him in the body and never give him a chance to do what he wants to do. If he protects the body, he'll get caught with uppercuts. Floyd Mayweather is vulnerable to lead uppercuts and overhands, but forget about all that ****...I only want the body.

Thats exactly what Gatti needs to do too..go to the body and try and break him down before he even considers any head shots! he's a slick defensive master, so he'll have to adjust his gameplan to work around that, which means heavy body work. No matter how much Floyd moves, the body will be accessible!

All this talk of going to Mayweather's body being the way to beat him?

Hatton is the best body puncher in any division!

I say, "bring on Hatton -v- Mayweather!"

Mayweather will be on his knee's choking & and whincing in pain before round 9 is my guess!

That's if Hatton can get through Kostya first. Tszyu will likely crack Hatton's chin and it will never be the same after that fight.

I think kostya tszyu would be the most capable of knocking him out. Hatton is overrated and Harris sucks. Cotto could pull off an upset but Gatti wont.

I'm sorry but pfb would destroy judah. On the otherhand dlh and zoo would probably knock pfb old cold.

Mayweather will almost always beat punchers, IMO. He simply dances circles around them, sticks fast punches in their face, and snaps back from their return fire.

It's going to take either a more mobile boxer-puncher, or a boxer with more talent. Either that, or some venue needs to screw him over with an extremely small ring, to take away his mobility, because that's what kills the most.

Kostya Tsyzu won't catch Mayweather, and Ricky Hatton sure as hell won't. Possibly DLH, but that fight will never happen considering Mayweather's father is in his corner. Mosley stands a decent chance, simply because he's more mobile than a lot of punchers.

I'm sorry but pfb would destroy judah. On the otherhand dlh and zoo would probably knock pfb old cold.

Destroy him? That's a bold statement. Judah would lose a close decision IMO.

I just think Judah can't take punches and well pfb lands alot of punches.... He also hardly gets hit with any punches. That is the reason why I think zoo could ko him because of his power and accuracy.

I just think Judah can't take punches and well pfb lands alot of punches.... He also hardly gets hit with any punches. That is the reason why I think zoo could ko him because of his power and accuracy.

Mayweather hasn't faced a fighter as slick as Judah, ever before.

Judah has had longer to acclimatize to the division.

Judah has faced the stiffer competition of late.

Judah ran circles around Tszyu, got overconfident and was caught with a good shot. Inexperience cost him large.

They've sparred before which lessens the likelihood of any unexpected surprises, they know one another's style.

Tszyu is essentially still riding the crest of that win over Judah. His wins over Mitchell aren't as impressive as Judah's wins over Spinks and Corley.

I think Tszyu's got as good a chance as anyone of beating Mayweather, outside of Judah.

Judah definitely stands a chance to defeat Mayweather for the simple fact that it's something Mayweather hasn't had to contend with yet. However, it'll take a HUGE amount of money to get the two friends to fight.

judah will murder Floyd, Floyd wont really even consider fighting Judah, hell fight another Corley, N'Dou, Corley and say hes the pound for pound king and all Mayweather fans will treat him like a god for beating an overated fighter in Gatti

I'd really like to see Tszyu fight Mayweather.

I'm not a big fan of trash-talkers. Ali was at least clever and witty. Most of the other guys are just jerks. I just find it hard to cheer on a guy I can't respect as a human being.

i think floyd will back it up... he is right about gatti everything he said about gatti is true... like the kind of fighters he fought and how he comes in way heavier then his opponent... mayweather by the 10th round....

I wouldn't say Judah would murder Floyd. Their styles are so similar that it would end up being an extremely close chess match. I doubt either guy would go in for the kill, so it would end up going to a decision. Mayweather is a more accurate and disciplined puncher than Judah.

It would be an entertaining fight, that's for sure. Two of the slickest and most elusive fighters in the sport throwing down. I'd love to see it, but it'll most likely never happen. Both fighters realize that they have the medicine to kill the other, and I think that'll keep them from fighting each other.

Another thing that remains consistent with both of them is that they both need to grow up. I like watching both of them fight, but as people I plain and simply don't respect them. Judah, because of the picture displayed in the avatar above me, and Mayweather because of his persistent legal problems and verbal harrassment of respectable fighters.

I'd really like to see Tszyu fight Mayweather.

I'm not a big fan of trash-talkers. Ali was at least clever and witty. Most of the other guys are just jerks. I just find it hard to cheer on a guy I can't respect as a human being.

I agree. Ali is the only trash talker i respect.

judah will murder Floyd, Floyd wont really even consider fighting Judah, hell fight another Corley, N'Dou, Corley and say hes the pound for pound king and all Mayweather fans will treat him like a god for beating an overated fighter in Gatti

Floyd is the (pound for pound) number one in the world.

judah will murder Floyd, Floyd wont really even consider fighting Judah, hell fight another Corley, N'Dou, Corley and say hes the pound for pound king

Ha ha ha, funny guy. The only reason Mayweather would avoid Judah is the risk of having a stool thrown at him once he`s beaten Judah up!

Ha ha ha, funny guy. The only reason Mayweather would avoid Judah is the risk of having a stool thrown at him once he`s beaten Judah up!
lol tru say
wudve given u karma but jus did on another post
the ? is, who has the better chin
judah has been down against tsuzyu and spinks
mayweather once in his career, n that was when his gloved grazed the canvas

my prediction... mayweather outboxes him for the UD

but honestly he does need to get KTFO

I wouldn't say Floyd is the best pound for pound, yet. Hopkins is easily the best, pound for pound. I just rewatched his fight with Tito last night. He's not nearly as flashy as Mayweather, but he has to be the most disciplined boxer I've ever seen. The guy doesn't give an inch when he's in the ring. Mayweather has a long way to go if he's going to surpass Hopkins, in that respect, not that I don't think he could do it in time. Like Hopkins, he'll have at least one loss on the way. He alright has a blemish on his record, with the first victory against Castillo. And I think it will come sooner than later, because he's not going to run up a record like Sugar Ray Robinson or Rocky Marciano.

I think 80% of people would agree Mayweather will win, even though I think far less than that actually want him to win.

I'd really like to see Tszyu(spelling?) take on Mayweather.

I wouldn't say Floyd is the best pound for pound, yet. Hopkins is easily the best, pound for pound. I just rewatched his fight with Tito last night. He's not nearly as flashy as Mayweather, but he has to be the most disciplined boxer I've ever seen. The guy doesn't give an inch when he's in the ring. Mayweather has a long way to go if he's going to surpass Hopkins, in that respect, not that I don't think he could do it in time. Like Hopkins, he'll have at least one loss on the way. He alright has a blemish on his record, with the first victory against Castillo. And I think it will come sooner than later, because he's not going to run up a record like Sugar Ray Robinson or Rocky Marciano.

I think 80% of people would agree Mayweather will win, even though I think far less than that actually want him to win.

I'd really like to see Tszyu(spelling?) take on Mayweather.

I think it largely depends on whether or not you put much stock in a fighter defending his titles in one division over the entire stretch of his career. Heavyweights excluded for obvious reasons.

I disagree with the notion that a fighter deserves more respect for maintaining dominance in the same relatively weak division over his entire career. Having said that, the only legitimate peer that Hopkins faced, beat him. Trinidad is a legitimate peer, but not of Bernard Hopkins. Eastman was game, but woefully bereft of the world class experience needed to prepare him for a fight with Hopkins. Beating the Cherifis' and Elliots' of this world does not bridge the gap. If it had've been a 15 rounder, who knows what would have happened.

Mayweather is twice the fighter Hopkins will ever be. I can say that with complete conviction even when faced with the fact that Mayweather's just getting started.

If Hopkins beats Taylor and Trinidad in a possible rematch I'll rate the guy highly, but he'll always be in Roy's shadow.

Calzaghe would have beaten Hopkins if he'd have had the stones to accept Joe's offer to fight him in his own back yard for a relatively huge pay day (at the time). Unfortunately the only fighter from a higher division that Hopkins has ever entertained a fight with is Johnson, who he'd already beaten. What does that say about your P4P#1?