View Full Version : what if Fraziers vision was better in the Thrilla in Manila


drew75
11-24-2004, 04:55 AM
He would of came out in the 15th round and KO'd a shattered Ali

leff
11-24-2004, 05:36 AM
Well i dont think so, they were both totaly spent and ali had the lead, so ali probably would have won by holding frazier away with the jabb, allthough had frazier come out to knock ali out i would have been the greates victory in boxing.

jabsRstiff
11-24-2004, 08:13 AM
The reason his vision was bad....was because Ali was nailing him with a ton of punches.

The question is moot !

Champoreeno
11-24-2004, 08:16 AM
Best case scenario, he would have lost a decision, and both guys would have suffered the damage of a superfluous round.

tony
11-24-2004, 08:30 AM
Does anyone no what the judges scores were before they stopped the fight? I'm not sure but i think Frazier was ahead...

Ali only started to hit Frazier at will at the end because Joe couldn't see anymore. Eddie Futch knew that it would have carried on in the next round so he did the right thing and pulled him out. Ali looked terrible at the end of that fight. Joe's eyes were shut but Ali's skin had a grey hue to it. Who knows what might have happened if Frazier went into the 15th round with his vision? He might have killed him.

Keleneki
11-24-2004, 08:43 AM
I am glad this one didn't go to the last round. They were both in terrible shape but Ali was really starting to tee off on Frazier towards the end. One of the best fights ever for sure.

drew75
11-24-2004, 09:45 AM
yeah, but Frazier started the fight nearly blind in one eye with cateracts.

Champoreeno
11-24-2004, 10:02 AM
Does anyone no what the judges scores were before they stopped the fight? I'm not sure but i think Frazier was ahead...

Ali only started to hit Frazier at will at the end because Joe couldn't see anymore. Eddie Futch knew that it would have carried on in the next round so he did the right thing and pulled him out. Ali looked terrible at the end of that fight. Joe's eyes were shut but Ali's skin had a grey hue to it. Who knows what might have happened if Frazier went into the 15th round with his vision? He might have killed him.

Scores through 14 rounds:

136-130 ; 136-132 ; 137-132
All in favour of Ali

realtim
11-24-2004, 10:43 AM
Ali would have came out for the last round and kep him at bay long enuf. Fraizer is double tough though. So is Ali. It was like 100degrees or something. The heat was mad.