View Full Version : Mayweather vs Morales at 135?


DLT
03-23-2005, 03:28 AM
They used to talk **** alot but Erik was always too small. He always said that he would move up and fight Floyd. If Floyd beats Gatti then he will have some good mainstream fanfare and him vs Erik would be a huge big money PPV fight.

Who do you think would win and why? I think Floyd is too big for him and would be better in every catagory including power at this weight. Im sure Floyd could still make the weight. He only left for big fights. He still doesnt come into the ring that big at 140

.::|ULTIMATE|::.
03-23-2005, 03:38 AM
I think we would have to see if Erik can even really be good at 135. He's been getting a little lazy at 130. At 135 he will have a little more slack to play with and that cant be good.

Assuming Erik doesnt loose his effectiveness at 135 i think it becomes competitive. I think Mayweather wins a Decision but competitive till the end.

jpboxer3
03-23-2005, 03:39 AM
Morales couldn't hurt Floyd,and I believe the fighter that'l eventually beat Floyd would be the fighter with good punching power.

Floyd by mid-round stoppage.

jpboxer3
03-23-2005, 03:51 AM
Oh yeah,Morales showed in his last fight against Pac,that he can be mentally vulnerable.Floyd would play mind games with him the first few rounds,just so he does something stupid like switch to Southpaw or try taunting Floyd.Once he does that,Mayweather would toy with him a bit and then own him.

JOM'S
03-23-2005, 03:57 AM
WTF are you guys saying ERIK will kill PBF at 135 ...

VIVA MEXICO -- VIVA MORALES!!!

xrhythmxnxbluesx
03-23-2005, 04:10 AM
yea i think morales should try facing other fighters first in 135 and see how he does than if he's successful fight pretty boy... got morales in a decision if it comes down...

Sulpiride
03-23-2005, 04:21 AM
Mayweather is too big for him and would pound out a decision or cuts stoppage. Won't happen though.

RUDDY
03-23-2005, 05:41 AM
Mayweather would out box him for about the first six rounds, tire him out, then stop working towards a stoppage in about round 9. Mayweather has to much of everything for Morales.

The Golden Boy
03-23-2005, 07:06 AM
What are you guys talking about? Erik Morales doesn't get tired, he gets stronger. And all these people talking bout Morales getting knocked out is bull ****. The man has a granite chin and has never been legitly knocked down in his career.

Kimmy
03-23-2005, 08:58 AM
I don`t see Morales getting stopped by Floyd but i can see Floyld outpointing Morales over 12 rounds. could be a good fight though!

jack_the_rippuh
03-23-2005, 09:39 AM
Mayweather would be the first man to stop Morales. He'll go to the body, we've seen in the last fight how much Morales hates it down there.

mic573
03-23-2005, 10:11 AM
Mayweather by decision.

abdiel2k3
03-23-2005, 10:23 AM
just cant see morales beaten floyd
not by KO or Decision
but i cant def see Mayweather winning however he chooses

JOM'S
03-23-2005, 11:09 AM
just cant see morales beaten floyd
not by KO or Decision
but i cant def see Mayweather winning however he chooses

WTF are you insane ????

Morales will kill PBF at 135 for sure he can't make weight, he will be too dehydrated, while EM will be at his strongest ...

Truth
03-23-2005, 11:30 AM
WTF are you guys saying ERIK will kill PBF at 135 ...

VIVA MEXICO -- VIVA MORALES!!!

I pick Floyd to win a close decision, styles make fights and Floyd's style beat Morales.

Alpha Male
03-23-2005, 11:32 AM
WTF are you guys saying ERIK will kill PBF at 135 ...

VIVA MEXICO -- VIVA MORALES!!!

Floyd would box Morales's ears off. Morales is not in the same league as Floyd. Morales should stay at 130. There's too many heavy hitters at 135. :boxing:

bigdlb12
03-23-2005, 11:33 AM
from what I heard when they sparred, EM beat PBF for 5 rounds, (Thats all the sparred) but since erik came it to face Manny @ 140, why not fight PNF or gatti, start rolling in that big money, of course there are still fighters like Corales,Castillo,Casamayor etc...

idk
03-23-2005, 11:42 AM
i think morales should fight other fighters to get used to the new weigh then if he feels he could beat mayweather than he should go for it

mic573
03-23-2005, 11:58 AM
I don't see Morales beating too many people at 135. Castillo, Corrales and Casamayor beat Morales in my opinion.

DLT
03-23-2005, 12:18 PM
from what I heard when they sparred, EM beat PBF for 5 rounds, (Thats all the sparred) but since erik came it to face Manny @ 140, why not fight PNF or gatti, start rolling in that big money, of course there are still fighters like Corales,Castillo,Casamayor etc...

Some have said that but Morales has always downplayed that and said that he didnt dominate him and they werent really going that hard. I dont know though

JOM'S
03-23-2005, 12:20 PM
I pick Floyd to win a close decision, styles make fights and Floyd's style beat Morales.

at 135 PBF will be too dehydrated, loose power, speed and stamina.

at 135 EM will be at his right weight and will get a decision over PBF

JOM'S
03-23-2005, 12:21 PM
Floyd would box Morales's ears off. Morales is not in the same league as Floyd. Morales should stay at 130. There's too many heavy hitters at 135. :boxing:

YOU WISH BRO, MORALES IS THE BEST P4P NUMERO UNO!!!

mic573
03-23-2005, 12:22 PM
at 135 PBF will be too dehydrated, loose power, speed and stamina.

at 135 EM will be at his right weight and will get a decision over PBF

I think 135 was a very good weight for Mayweather maybe even his best weight.

DLT
03-23-2005, 12:23 PM
I disagree with those who say that Floyd cant KO him. I think Floyd would stop him. He is a much more offensive fighter now. Erik is good but he has slowed at 130. He will slow even more at 135 and will have much less power. Someone said that Morales has a granite chin which is true but he has fought guys from 122-130. Much smaller guys and guys that have hurt him. Floyd will come down from 140 with alot of speed and sharp punches. I dont see Erik being able to last 12 rounds.

Another reason is that you might could last if you didnt fight and cover up the whole fight but Morales will swing alot and will be leaving himself open for alot of crisp, sharp counters from Floyd

JOM'S
03-23-2005, 12:23 PM
from what I heard when they sparred, EM beat PBF for 5 rounds, (Thats all the sparred) but since erik came it to face Manny @ 140, why not fight PNF or gatti, start rolling in that big money, of course there are still fighters like Corales,Castillo,Casamayor etc...

thats what i mean, maybe he can take the winner of the Corales-Castillo fight, then go after PBF ...

JOM'S
03-23-2005, 12:25 PM
I think 135 was a very good weight for Mayweather maybe even his best weight.

that was before, but not now with all the muscle PBF develope it will take to much from him to go down, just like what going back down was for RJJ, a career ending move ...

Super_Lightweight
03-23-2005, 12:26 PM
Floyd has stopped legit 140lbs fighters and has toyed with a fighter who weighed 153 in the ring with him. Morales will have no advantages and yes, whether anyone likes it or not, he does have a chance of getting stopped vs Mayweather.

Mayweather only comes into the ring at 141 lbs so I seriously doubt he would have trouble to make 135. Morales already weighs 141+ when fighting at the 130lbs class.

DLT
03-23-2005, 12:27 PM
that was before, but not now with all the muscle PBF develope it will take to much from him to go down, just like what going back down was for RJJ, a career ending move ...
He only went up 5 pounds and he left because he wanted big fights, not because he couldnt make weight. He still comes in small at 140.

Jones went all the way to 200 pounds and they came back down to 175. Thats a big difference

JOM'S
03-23-2005, 12:33 PM
He only went up 5 pounds and he left because he wanted big fights, not because he couldnt make weight. He still comes in small at 140.

Jones went all the way to 200 pounds and they came back down to 175. Thats a big difference


PBF toyed with guys weighing at 150 with his speed, i dont think he will have the same advatage with Erik ...

i still think EM will kick some _ss at 135, like to see him againts the winner of Chico-Castillo fight and then challenge PBF..

sena
03-23-2005, 12:47 PM
PBF has proven his worth against every type of fighter. He's especially devastating against sluggers and despite EM skills as a boxer, he just has an innate tendency to fight. Jesus Chavez gave EM a hard time w/ a hurt shoulder while Floyd Mayweather stopped him w/in the distance. As for PBF getting whipped by EM in sparring, he also got owned to Paul Spadafora. I guess the Pittsburg kid should take him on 2 :)

.::|ULTIMATE|::.
03-23-2005, 12:53 PM
Some of you seem to have the idea that Morales' is skill limited in the ring it seems. He is not even close to as limited skill as Hernandez, Diego Corrales, even Castillo.

I think floyd would win a competitive fight but saying he would box Morales ears off or something that implies Morales is ver skill limited is plain incorrect..

BBFM
03-23-2005, 12:55 PM
I think morales would rip apart peice by peice pbf

manila_assasin
03-23-2005, 12:55 PM
At 135 could be a good fight. Mayweather might win it though looks like he is more versatile than EM.

oldgringo
03-23-2005, 01:02 PM
It'd be a competitive fight but I think Floyd would be a bit too much for Morales at this stage of the game. I can see Floyd winning a fairly comfortable decision, with Morales showing his skill in spurts. Whoever is saying that Morales would get his ears boxed off is an idiot, being that Morales has some of the best natural boxing skills in the game. I still think that at 135 Morales would slow down even more and that would really hurt his chances to bust up Floyd. Floyd would get hit him with sharp counters and just beat him to the punch. I'd love to see it however...

Alpha Male
03-23-2005, 01:51 PM
YOU WISH BRO, MORALES IS THE BEST P4P NUMERO UNO!!!

It's obvious that you have no clue :confused: of what you are talking about. Even the most ignorant person would not think that Morales could beat Floyd. So, you continue on with your gibberish.

oldgringo
03-23-2005, 01:56 PM
It's obvious that you have no clue :confused: of what you are talking about. Even the most ignorant person would not think that Morales could beat Floyd. So, you continue on with your gibberish.


Its obvious you have no idea why he HAS to say that so take it easy. It's called LOSING A BET... :footinmou

Alpha Male
03-23-2005, 02:00 PM
Its obvious you have no idea why he HAS to say that so take it easy. It's called LOSING A BET... :footinmou

What exactly are you trying to say?

m00ks
03-23-2005, 02:03 PM
Morales would have trouble landing on Floyd's D just liek everyone else. PFB's gonna work the body and win a close decision.

HayeFan
03-23-2005, 02:32 PM
WTF are you insane ????

Morales will kill PBF at 135 for sure he can't make weight, he will be too dehydrated, while EM will be at his strongest ...

Blind devotion. Nothing wrong with that.

HayeFan
03-23-2005, 02:34 PM
Oh wait, is this a hoax?

dino
03-23-2005, 02:55 PM
The Only Fighter Who Will And Can Beat Floyd Mayweather Is A Fighter Whos Naturally Bigger And Has A Big Punch...this Isnt Up For Debate..a Guy Smaller Then Floyd Would Never Beat Him..the only ppl who said "this would be a good fight" are mexican

Mr. Ryan
03-23-2005, 02:59 PM
I'll tell you, I thought Morales beat Pacquiao, but he did it unimpressively. He took too many shots, didn't show much power, and only moved back and forth, no side to side. I think Mayweather would simply impose his will and his skill on Morales. There would be a couple of moments in the fight in which Morales is starting to rally, but Mayweather's skill would be too much for Morales and the towel will come in sometime in the 10th.

Sir_Jose
03-23-2005, 04:16 PM
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Knicksman20
03-23-2005, 06:22 PM
Morales would be stopped by PBF. The speed & power would dominate Morales. If Barrera's speed gave Morales trouble in their 3rd fight, he's in a world of trouble against PBF. Morales wouldn't be able to hurt Floyd because he doesn't have the fire power to hurt him, & he would have a hard time hitting him just like most fighters have that have got in ther ring with PBF.

IwatchBoxing
03-23-2005, 06:26 PM
Casamayor, Mayweather, Castillo, Corrales, Barrera all can beat Morales, infact I'll put money on Seda against him too.

MlLkMan
03-23-2005, 07:20 PM
I disagree with those who say that Floyd cant KO him. I think Floyd would stop him. He is a much more offensive fighter now. Erik is good but he has slowed at 130. He will slow even more at 135 and will have much less power. Someone said that Morales has a granite chin which is true but he has fought guys from 122-130. Much smaller guys and guys that have hurt him. Floyd will come down from 140 with alot of speed and sharp punches. I dont see Erik being able to last 12 rounds.

Another reason is that you might could last if you didnt fight and cover up the whole fight but Morales will swing alot and will be leaving himself open for alot of crisp, sharp counters from Floyd

Yup, We all saw how he countered his last opponent

JOM'S
03-24-2005, 01:36 AM
Some of you seem to have the idea that Morales' is skill limited in the ring it seems. He is not even close to as limited skill as Hernandez, Diego Corrales, even Castillo.

I think floyd would win a competitive fight but saying he would box Morales ears off or something that implies Morales is ver skill limited is plain incorrect..


no doubt about it will be competitive and i would be rooting for erik ...

VIVA MEXICO - VIVA ERIK MORALES !!!

JOM'S
03-24-2005, 01:45 AM
Its obvious you have no idea why he HAS to say that so take it easy. It's called LOSING A BET... :footinmou

OG thanks for guarding my back but for a guy who once thought PAC could take PBF at 135, its not a far stretch for me to think that ERIK can beat PBF at 135, lol ...

i dont know about you guys but please don't put your man down, if he likes to fight at 135 then let him be (I PERSONNALY WANT HIM TO STAY AT 130 FOR A REMATCH) and if PBF wants to get a big fight going back to 135, then let them go at it..

I won't bet on it, but I will be rooting for Erik who would be definetly an underdog if this fight ever happens ...


VIVA MEXICO - VIVA ERIK MORALES !!!