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GoldenBoy23 10-16-2009, 08:35 AM http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/ufc/2685691/UFC-star-Dan-Hardy-blasts-back-at-Bernard-Hopkins.html
DAN HARDY has hit back at Bernard Hopkins' claim that mixed martial arts is nothing more than 'entertainment ****ography'.
Boxing legend Hopkins, 44, said he would never pay to see an MMA bout and rubbished claims it could replace boxing as the world's No1 combat sport.
He said: "I'm not buying a ticket to watch two grown men with panties on, sweating, with nuts in their face. It's a ****o — it's an entertainment ****o."
However, B-Hop's comments have left UFC superstar Dan Hardy fuming.
The 27-year-old has carved an impressive reputation in the UFC and is now regarded as Britain's No1 MMA fighter.
But he is outraged by the Executioner's derisory comments and insists the veteran is scared the lack of top talent in boxing will see more people switch from the sweet science to MMA.
Speaking exclusively to SunSport, Hardy roared: "Hopkins is allowed his opinion but I don't think this is what he really thinks.
"He knows that MMA is a tough sport and that the people involved are professional athletes.
"I remember him talking very well of Randy Couture a couple of years ago after watching Randy train.
"I get the feeling Hopkins lashed out at the UFC and MMA like he did because he knows nobody under the age of 35 cares about boxing any more.
"It must be hard to accept for people of his age, he has dedicated his life to a sport and now it is being eclipsed by something more exciting — the UFC.
"A large percentage of UFC fans are the people that used to buy boxing pay-per-views, but they now opt for the UFC instead.
"It's a difficult pill to swallow, I'm sure, but that's the reality of the situation and taking little digs at the UFC and MMA fans won't change this.
"It seems Hopkins has a tendency to speak before thinking, what with his racist comment before his fight with Joe Calzaghe fight, and now his homophobic remark."
Hardy also rubbished the American's allegation that most MMA fans have chains and masks in their closets and offered to settle the score with him face-to-face.
The Outlaw blasted: "Insinuating that UFC fans must have chains and masks in their closets is just ridiculous.
"If I remember correctly, Hopkins enters the ring wearing a gimp mask, right?
"I think most MMA fans will give his criticism the contempt it deserves, but Hopkins is welcome to come and have a go if he doesn't take UFC fighters seriously.
"I'll take that fight and would promise not to wear panties and to keep my nuts off his face."
Hardy is spot on here. Hopkins is just taking petty digs at MMA to cope with its rise in popularity and it taking the no.1 combat sport spot. It's funny how the dumb ones like Hopkins and Arum take shots at it but intelligent guys like DLH and RJJ realise its more popular and try to promote it
MMA is a more comple fighting art than Boxing, boxers only use there hands in MMA you need to know every aspect of fighting most fights in the street end up on the ground.
boxers box, mma fighters fight. This mma vs boxing thing will always be there.....
Mersey 10-16-2009, 10:08 AM This boxing vs. MMA **** is getting boring isn't it
ABOSWORTH 10-16-2009, 10:12 AM This boxing vs. MMA **** is getting boring isn't it
I know I'm sick to death of it.
Spartacus Sully 10-16-2009, 11:18 AM "I'll take that fight and would promise not to wear panties and to keep my nuts off his face."
when did he even say he wanted a fight with anybody?
the way it sounds is that he wants nothing to do with the sport or their competitors. whats with these mma guys and allways being so violent?
Left2theliver 10-16-2009, 11:53 AM Obviously B-hop is saying this to get some more publicity and make some more $$ out of it. **** talking is what he does...I'm sure he really doesn't hate MMA, but he does this to get people's attention, and Hardy just fell right into it.
snakey112 10-16-2009, 12:55 PM Hopkins is just another jerkoff in a line of boxers/promoters who cannot deal with the fact that MMA is growing and rapidly.
The gay thing is really old and pathetic. The fact is if you look at grappling and automatically think of gay sex...maybe you need to take a long hard look at yourself because you probably have some unresolved issues with your own sexuality
GoldenBoy23 10-16-2009, 02:43 PM Hopkins is an idiot. He can make fun of MMA all he wants but he once said even the worst guy in MMA would beat him easily lol
Mr. President 10-16-2009, 03:52 PM Hopkins is an idiot. He can make fun of MMA all he wants but he once said even the worst guy in MMA would beat him easily lol
No **** dummy, that's because he's a BOXER not an MMA fighter. That's like Tom Brady bragging because he can throw more TD's than Steve Nash.
Boxing = A specific science and art that takes years to perfect.
MMA = A glorified street fight that no respectable boxer has any business taking part in.
Mr. Beelzebub 10-16-2009, 04:07 PM Actually, that transcript of his comments make him sound very articulate and without resorting to retarded ****ing comebacks made Hopkins look like the punchdrunk idiot that he is.
And he indeed invited Couture to train at his gym, and his promoter De La Hoya is trying to get into MMA.
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Mrpedigree 10-16-2009, 06:03 PM I don't agree with what Hopkins said ...it was a silly thing to say....but hardy needs to keep his mouth shut until he achieves something in his chosen sport !
I remember a while ago when Dan Hardy was *****ing the same about Joe Calzaghe...he was pissed that calzaghe showed him no respect at a sentanta sports TV award event..calzaghe didn't have a clue who Hardy was so Hardy took offense and made a statement in the sun crying about how Calzaghe Blanked him lol
Like i said IMO Dan Hardy needs to actually achieve something in his chosen sport before he starts bad mouthing more established sporting greats !:boxing:
tommy boo boxer 10-16-2009, 06:52 PM Dan Hardly? who????:pat:
Junito-Rulez 10-16-2009, 06:54 PM MMA is not gay but **** THAT i have "ebony gay" advertisement in MMA core. What the **** is that ****?
Hardy is not big enough to represent MMA, he should shut up. Guys who can answer to that are greats like Fedor, Liddell, or Anderson Silva.
Mr. President 10-16-2009, 06:56 PM Dan Hardly? who????:pat:
He's basicly just another chump from the MMA world who nobody's ever heard of using boxing to put his name in the headlines. Nothing we havent seen a thousand times before. He needs to watch his mouth when he speaks about a legend of a real sport though.
GoldenBoy23 10-16-2009, 08:01 PM Actually, that transcript of his comments make him sound very articulate and without resorting to retarded ****ing comebacks made Hopkins look like the punchdrunk idiot that he is.
And he indeed invited Couture to train at his gym, and his promoter De La Hoya is trying to get into MMA.
Yeah Hopkins really does sound pathetic, he's a joke lol
BEEHOP 10-16-2009, 09:51 PM Yeah Hopkins really does sound pathetic, he's a joke lol
Bernard has accomplished more than any MMA fighter.
TheCheetah 10-16-2009, 10:47 PM who is Dan Hardy???
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GoldenBoy23 10-17-2009, 09:33 AM Bernard has accomplished more than any MMA fighter.
What does that have to do with what i said? He's just an ignorant thug lol
Chr0nic 10-17-2009, 09:38 AM MMA is a more comple fighting art than Boxing, boxers only use there hands in MMA you need to know every aspect of fighting most fights in the street end up on the ground.
no, not really...
Princemanspopa 10-17-2009, 03:31 PM Typical mmGAY response,Hardy is a chump,with stupid hair,who looks like he just got out of a green day concert.Everything Hopkins stated about that garage is true,what self respecting grown man could actually watch this junk? It's not a sport and it's a great stain in our society that we could tolerate such ****.
MMA is a more comple fighting art than Boxing, boxers only use there hands in MMA you need to know every aspect of fighting most fights in the street end up on the ground.
Most fights do end up on the ground,after one guy is knocked unconscious and the other guy is stood over him,stomping the **** out of him.
mmGAY fighters are glass jawed grapplers who can't throw a punch to save their life and they can't take a punch either,they are physically and mentally weak men who don't have an ounce of courage,mediocre athletes who couldn't make it in a real sport.
Elemental Fist 10-17-2009, 03:42 PM Typical mmGAY response,Hardy is a chump,with stupid hair,who looks like he just got out of a green day concert.Everything Hopkins stated about that garage is true,what self respecting grown man could actually watch this junk? It's not a sport and it's a great stain in our society that we could tolerate such ****.
Most fights do end up on the ground,after one guy is knocked unconscious and the other guy is stood over him,stomping the **** out of him.
mmGAY fighters are glass jawed grapplers who can't throw a punch to save their life and they can't take a punch either,they are physically and mentally weak men who don't have an ounce of courage,mediocre athletes who couldn't make it in a real sport.
Again with the retarded MMGay insults, seriously you need mental help there.
I would like to ask everybody a question, what kind of similarity both Boxing loyalists and MMA loyalists share?
Of course some of you who read this, are wondering "what, no way how can we be the same as those losers?"
Boxing promoters/personals are always looking for new words to discredit MMA whether calling it human ****fighting (kind of ironic since that's what some idiots called Boxing in the past), a sport filled with no talent bums or that no MMA fighter can succeed in boxing (well I guess no one told Alexander Ustinov that...)
MMA big shots like Dana White along with several MMA journalists are always bring up the whole 'Boxing is dying" argument, well judging from the numbers the Mayweather fight pulled off plus numbers of boxing events overseas, I highly doubt that's the case. They also think a boxer would get owned in an MMA fight, em hello Ray Mercer anybody?
Not to mention both sides' fanboys always seem to use juvinile insults that not even 14 year olds would find funny.
As for the answer to the question I raised up, well that's quite simple really....
Both are obnoxious and closedminded fanboys who love to love to discredit the other in the most retarded way possible.
:bottle: on that fanboys:boxing:
Stevie_WONDER.. 10-17-2009, 05:30 PM most fights in the street end up on the ground.you have never been in a street fight..
them_apples 10-17-2009, 09:02 PM http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/ufc/2685691/UFC-star-Dan-Hardy-blasts-back-at-Bernard-Hopkins.html
DAN HARDY has hit back at Bernard Hopkins' claim that mixed martial arts is nothing more than 'entertainment ****ography'.
Boxing legend Hopkins, 44, said he would never pay to see an MMA bout and rubbished claims it could replace boxing as the world's No1 combat sport.
He said: "I'm not buying a ticket to watch two grown men with panties on, sweating, with nuts in their face. It's a ****o — it's an entertainment ****o."
However, B-Hop's comments have left UFC superstar Dan Hardy fuming.
The 27-year-old has carved an impressive reputation in the UFC and is now regarded as Britain's No1 MMA fighter.
But he is outraged by the Executioner's derisory comments and insists the veteran is scared the lack of top talent in boxing will see more people switch from the sweet science to MMA.
Speaking exclusively to SunSport, Hardy roared: "Hopkins is allowed his opinion but I don't think this is what he really thinks.
"He knows that MMA is a tough sport and that the people involved are professional athletes.
"I remember him talking very well of Randy Couture a couple of years ago after watching Randy train.
"I get the feeling Hopkins lashed out at the UFC and MMA like he did because he knows nobody under the age of 35 cares about boxing any more.
"It must be hard to accept for people of his age, he has dedicated his life to a sport and now it is being eclipsed by something more exciting — the UFC.
"A large percentage of UFC fans are the people that used to buy boxing pay-per-views, but they now opt for the UFC instead.
"It's a difficult pill to swallow, I'm sure, but that's the reality of the situation and taking little digs at the UFC and MMA fans won't change this.
"It seems Hopkins has a tendency to speak before thinking, what with his racist comment before his fight with Joe Calzaghe fight, and now his homophobic remark."
Hardy also rubbished the American's allegation that most MMA fans have chains and masks in their closets and offered to settle the score with him face-to-face.
The Outlaw blasted: "Insinuating that UFC fans must have chains and masks in their closets is just ridiculous.
"If I remember correctly, Hopkins enters the ring wearing a gimp mask, right?
"I think most MMA fans will give his criticism the contempt it deserves, but Hopkins is welcome to come and have a go if he doesn't take UFC fighters seriously.
"I'll take that fight and would promise not to wear panties and to keep my nuts off his face."
Hardy is spot on here. Hopkins is just taking petty digs at MMA to cope with its rise in popularity and it taking the no.1 combat sport spot. It's funny how the dumb ones like Hopkins and Arum take shots at it but intelligent guys like DLH and RJJ realise its more popular and try to promote it
Correction, no white males under the age of 35 care about boxing. Boxing is a world wide sport.
Just like all white males like WWE. That's pretty much it, white people like grabbing and wrestling more than hitting.
GroundSt.Pound 10-17-2009, 10:02 PM Correction, no white males under the age of 35 care about boxing. Boxing is a world wide sport.
Just like all white males like WWE. That's pretty much it, white people like grabbing and wrestling more than hitting.
And Black people like Weed, cheap malt liquor, and mugging people.
Asian people like Martial Arts, Rice, Sake, and and all sound like Dat Phan.
Middle Eastern People are all terrorists.
do you realize how stupid you sound now?
If I remember correctly aren't you white?
QUELOQUE 10-17-2009, 11:55 PM Hopkins was right get off his nuts. Two questions arise from this:
Who cares what this homosexual has to say?
Why are there so many homos on boxing scene?
THe TRiNiTY 10-18-2009, 01:14 AM When someone calls your sport gay, you prove them wrong by *****ing about it like a woman. That makes sense.
PiTHON 10-18-2009, 03:17 AM :bottle::bottle:
BEEHOP 10-18-2009, 04:44 AM What does that have to do with what i said? He's just an ignorant thug lol
Bernard is no thug. He makes more money than any MMA fighter will ever see.
Napalm Death 10-18-2009, 11:35 AM :) at bhop wearing a gimp mask.
Bernard is no thug. He makes more money than any MMA fighter will ever see.
Really? This is news to me. I could of sworn he spent 5 years in prison for various crimes. And that was roughly a quarter of the time he was facing.
Hopkins is absolutely a thug, who isn't very intelligent outside of the ring. He insults MMA because he is threatened by it, just like MMA fighters who insult boxing.
I don't believe Dan Hardy is the best representative of MMA to reply to B-Hops comments, though. He isn't particularly talented at anything, and he'll never be a champion.
Mr. President 10-18-2009, 10:25 PM Really? This is news to me. I could of sworn he spent 5 years in prison for various crimes. And that was roughly a quarter of the time he was facing.
Hopkins is absolutely a thug, who isn't very intelligent outside of the ring. He insults MMA because he is threatened by it, just like MMA fighters who insult boxing.
I don't believe Dan Hardy is the best representative of MMA to reply to B-Hops comments, though. He isn't particularly talented at anything, and he'll never be a champion.
Who gives a ****? Well all make mistakes and Bernard turned his life around to become one of the most accomplished athletes and businessmen in sports today.
You say he isnt intelligent outside of the ring but if that's the case then what does that say about practically every MMA fighter?. B-Hop is in charge of his own career and doesnt have to give 90% of the profits away to a slave owner (ie: Dana White) unlike those idiots who fight in the UFC and every other top MMA promotion.
Who gives a ****? Well all make mistakes and Bernard turned his life around to become one of the most accomplished athletes and businessmen in sports today.
You say he isn't intelligent outside of the ring but if that's the case then what does that say about practically every MMA fighter?. B-Hop is in charge of his own career and doesnt have to give 90% of the profits away to a slave owner (ie: Dana White) unlike those idiots who fight in the UFC and every other top MMA promotion.
Quite a few MMA fighters have college degrees. This is mostly due to a decent amount of them coming from a collegiate wrestling background. I'd say on average, at least in the US, top MMA fighters are far more educated than the top boxers.
Boxing and MMA have polar opposite business models. This is mainly due to the length of which both sports have been around. In the USA, MMA started in 1993. And didn't become an actual sport until the late 90's. We haven't had hundreds of years to work out a business model that works universally. ****, boxing hasn't even done such a thing.
On the topic of him being a thug, there is no denying that. And I care, he is not someone I'd want a child to look up to. You can't use the, 'We all make mistakes" argument on someone like him. He had NUMEROUS felonies. Those aren't mistakes, they're deliberate actions done by an uneducated man.
Mr. President 10-19-2009, 01:20 AM Quite a few MMA fighters have college degrees. This is mostly due to a decent amount of them coming from a collegiate wrestling background. I'd say on average, at least in the US, top MMA fighters are far more educated than the top boxers.
Boxing and MMA have polar opposite business models. This is mainly due to the length of which both sports have been around. In the USA, MMA started in 1993. And didn't become an actual sport until the late 90's. We haven't had hundreds of years to work out a business model that works universally. ****, boxing hasn't even done such a thing.
On the topic of him being a thug, there is no denying that. And I care, he is not someone I'd want a child to look up to. You can't use the, 'We all make mistakes" argument on someone like him. He had NUMEROUS felonies. Those aren't mistakes, they're deliberate actions done by an uneducated man.
Who cares about how "educated" they are. I know borderline retards who have college degrees. What defines how intelligent you are is how far you go in life and B-Hop is more of a boss, more respected, and worth more then any MMA fighter will ever be. You don't make it to that level by being unintelligent.
Street smarts > Book smarts
Who cares about how "educated" they are. I know borderline retards who have college degrees. What defines how intelligent you are is how far you go in life and B-Hop is more of a boss, more respected, and worth more then any MMA fighter will ever be. You don't make it to that level by being unintelligent.
Street smarts > Book smarts
I care about how educated they are. It proves that you don't have to be an idiot to be a fighter.
Lol @ more of a boss. Who says that?
snakey112 10-19-2009, 01:47 AM Who cares about how "educated" they are. I know borderline retards who have college degrees. What defines how intelligent you are is how far you go in life and B-Hop is more of a boss, more respected, and worth more then any MMA fighter will ever be. You don't make it to that level by being unintelligent.
Street smarts > Book smarts
your post makes no sense, tons of pro footballers are thick as ****, for example, david beckham, in the top 10 richest sportsmen in the word yet look how intelligent he is. Your logic only refers to conventional ways of getting rich, e.g. becoming a successful businessman, anyone can get to a professional level at a sport by practising that sport so long as the athletic ability is there in the first place, it has nothing to do with their intelligence.
Mr. President 10-19-2009, 02:55 AM your post makes no sense, tons of pro footballers are thick as ****, for example, david beckham, in the top 10 richest sportsmen in the word yet look how intelligent he is. Your logic only refers to conventional ways of getting rich, e.g. becoming a successful businessman, anyone can get to a professional level at a sport by practising that sport so long as the athletic ability is there in the first place, it has nothing to do with their intelligence.
Terrible post, you missed the point completely. I don't care how good you are at boxing, you're not gonna see 90% of the profits when you fight, become a key figure in Goldenboy Promotions, and be a master of selling fights and marketting yourself to an audience if you're unintelligent. B-Hop is savy and street smart which translated to him being incredibly succesful in boxing outside of the ring. That's far more impressive and a measure of greater intelligence then simply going to college.
mgkirkpatrick 10-19-2009, 04:04 AM MMA is a more comple fighting art than Boxing, boxers only use there hands in MMA you need to know every aspect of fighting most fights in the street end up on the ground.
o thanks christ you pointed that out. was i the only one here that didn't know the difference before he explained it?
snakey112 10-19-2009, 04:47 AM o thanks christ you pointed that out. was i the only one here that didn't know the difference before he explained it?
I believe this is the correct response
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Move BRICKS™ 10-19-2009, 09:09 AM I am a huge fan of Bernard Hopkins, but the guy is not known for being the sharpest tool in the shed. Zab Judah got payed, too.
And I suppose Paris Hilton is one of the smartest women on the planet, because she's got major bank.
This thread astounds me.
Mr. President 10-19-2009, 04:49 PM I believe this is the correct response
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I noticed you completely avoided my post and didnt even try to respond. I'd do the same thing if someone just posted circles around me. :boxing:
snakey112 10-19-2009, 07:14 PM I noticed you completely avoided my post and didnt even try to respond. I'd do the same thing if someone just posted circles around me. :boxing:
yeah I missed your original point so the **** what I can admit that, and I never said going to college makes you intelligent, I've seen you dodge people's posts on this forum tons of times after getting owned
just saying.
oh and btw not once have I claimed hopkins to be unintellignet, ignorant? yes but not unintelligent.
Check 10-19-2009, 07:25 PM I'm well under of the age of 35 and love the sport of boxing. All my buds are into as well and none of them are 35. Don't know who Dan Hardy is and I'm sure he won't amount to anything. People keep saying that UFC is gaining popularity but if you look at their numbers it has probably peaked so it isn't even true. Boxing seems to be doing just fine and is gaining popularity, just look at the numbers in Germany that the Abraham/Taylor fight did. Dan Hardy is probably a meat head that doesn't realize that there are billions of people living outside of America.
snakey112 10-19-2009, 07:30 PM I'm well under of the age of 35 and love the sport of boxing. All my buds are into as well and none of them are 35. Don't know who Dan Hardy is and I'm sure he won't amount to anything. People keep saying that UFC is gaining popularity but if you look at their numbers it has probably peaked so it isn't even true. Boxing seems to be doing just fine and is gaining popularity, just look at the numbers in Germany that the Abraham/Taylor fight did. Dan Hardy is probably a meat head that doesn't realize that there are billions of people living outside of America.
the UFC has been around since 1993, due to that I'd say it is doing pretty damn well, and dan hardy is british not american and is not a "meathead" like you say he is actually very well spoken, how about you educate yourself on things/people before you decide to come to conclusions or talk **** about them, you yourself even said you don't know who he is.
that said, I dissagree with what he said about no one under the age of 35 caring about boxing and think it was a silly statement, but I'm sure he just said that to counter the incredibly ignorant statements hopkins said originally, also, hopkins was the one to talk **** in the first place, not hardy, hardy was just standing up for his sport.
paul750 10-19-2009, 07:31 PM These people have big egos. This stuff is always going to happen.
GroundSt.Pound 10-19-2009, 08:07 PM Don't know who Dan Hardy is and I'm sure he won't amount to anything.
He's a good up and comer with pretty good stand-up but as long as GSP is champion, he really won't amount to much.
People keep saying that UFC is gaining popularity but if you look at their numbers it has probably peaked so it isn't even true.
I think it still is gaining popularity, just not as fast and as rapid lately as people want it to. But it is getting there. There is now a UFC event scheduled for Australia, Strikforce is on CBS primetime, Brock Lesnar sounded the horn at the Vikings game yesterday. It's becoming more widely recognized but again not as rapidly as people are saying, I agree.
Boxing seems to be doing just fine and is gaining popularity, just look at the numbers in Germany that the Abraham/Taylor fight did.
Arthur is the hometown guy in Germany, of course he's going to pull big numbers.
Dan Hardy is probably a meat head that doesn't realize that there are billions of people living outside of America.
He's actually a really well spoken guy, talks a lot of crap to hype up fights and he's from the UK ;)
Good post, BTW. I appreciate how you can be civilized even though you don't like MMA.
BEEHOP 10-19-2009, 09:26 PM Really? This is news to me. I could of sworn he spent 5 years in prison for various crimes. And that was roughly a quarter of the time he was facing.
Hopkins is absolutely a thug, who isn't very intelligent outside of the ring. He insults MMA because he is threatened by it, just like MMA fighters who insult boxing.
I don't believe Dan Hardy is the best representative of MMA to reply to B-Hops comments, though. He isn't particularly talented at anything, and he'll never be a champion.
He is no thug, Thug's DO NOT make millions of dollars fighting professionally and are known around the world. He was in prison 20 years ago, but that doesn't mean he's the same man as he was 20 years ago, which should be pretty apparent to anyone, if you look at his career he hasn't done anything "Thug" like since he's been to prison.
BTW: Fedor's brother is a criminal who spent time in prison far more recently than Bernard.
GroundSt.Pound 10-19-2009, 09:43 PM He is no thug, Thug's DO NOT make millions of dollars fighting professionally and are known around the world. He was in prison 20 years ago, but that doesn't mean he's the same man as he was 20 years ago, which should be pretty apparent to anyone, if you look at his career he hasn't done anything "Thug" like since he's been to prison.
BTW: Fedor's brother is a criminal who spent time in prison far more recently than Bernard.
Just because it was 20 years ago doesn't take away from any wrong doings or the fact that he was a "thug". Tyson was thrown in jail for rape and did his time, that doesn't mean he's no longer a rapist or convicted sex offender.
While Bernard may not need to rob people anymore, he still acts like a thug, as do plenty of professional boxers.
Mr. President 10-19-2009, 10:34 PM yeah I missed your original point so the **** what I can admit that, and I never said going to college makes you intelligent, I've seen you dodge people's posts on this forum tons of times after getting owned
just saying.
oh and btw not once have I claimed hopkins to be unintellignet, ignorant? yes but not unintelligent.
I think you must have me confused with someone else because the only people getting "owned" when i'm in this section are you naiive, gullable, borderline delusional MMA fans.
snakey112 10-19-2009, 10:53 PM I think you must have me confused with someone else because the only people getting "owned" when i'm in this section are you naiive, gullable, borderline delusional MMA fans.
lmao you're a joke
ignorant, bitter boxing fanboy finding it hard to come to terms with how successful the UFC has become after only 1993, lol how sad
BEEHOP 10-19-2009, 11:03 PM Just because it was 20 years ago doesn't take away from any wrong doings or the fact that he was a "thug". Tyson was thrown in jail for rape and did his time, that doesn't mean he's no longer a rapist or convicted sex offender.
While Bernard may not need to rob people anymore, he still acts like a thug, as do plenty of professional boxers.
I think that's a pretty bold statement. Maybe you should stick to watching MMA only.
People can change, and Bernard is a perfect example of it.
Thugs don't make millions of dollars, end of story.
He may occasionally talk street, but he's no longer a "thug"
It's ridiculous to say otherwise.
Mr. President 10-20-2009, 02:04 AM lmao you're a joke
ignorant, bitter boxing fanboy finding it hard to come to terms with how successful the UFC has become after only 1993, lol how sad
I wouldnt say i'm bitter. In fact i'm happy that the unathletic, beer drinking, suburban demographic have finally found a "sport" (for lack of a better word) to follow. But make the mistake of trying to compare street fighting to a real sport like boxing and you're gonna get put in your place. You should know that by now, this isnt the first time i'v had to put you back in your lane.
snakey112 10-20-2009, 02:20 AM I wouldnt say i'm bitter. In fact i'm happy that the unathletic, beer drinking, suburban demographic have finally found a "sport" (for lack of a better word) to follow.But make the mistake of trying to compare street fighting to a real sport like boxing and you're gonna get put in your place. You should know that by now, this isnt the first time i'v had to put you back in your lane.
lmfao
oh please mr president put me in place, I'm waiting
lets see, the UFC, founded in 1993, yet 7/10 top selling ppvs of 2008 were UFC events, WOW, a company founded in 1993 managed to do that?!
please sir, "put me in my place"
Mr. President 10-20-2009, 06:22 AM lmfao
oh please mr president put me in place, I'm waiting
lets see, the UFC, founded in 1993, yet 7/10 top selling ppvs of 2008 were UFC events, WOW, a company founded in 1993 managed to do that?!
please sir, "put me in my place"
Too late, i already have on numerous occasions. At this point i'v lowered you so far and posted circles around you so many times there's not much more i could say. It would be like dropping dirt on top of more dirt.
Move BRICKS™ 10-20-2009, 11:41 AM Too late, i already have on numerous occasions. At this point i'v lowered you so far and posted circles around you so many times there's not much more i could say. It would be like dropping dirt on top of more dirt.
"Posting circles" Literally lol'ing. :haha:
Oh my God, that got me good and I don't even know who you are. :haha:
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snakey112 10-20-2009, 12:39 PM Too late, i already have on numerous occasions. At this point i'v lowered you so far and posted circles around you so many times there's not much more i could say. It would be like dropping dirt on top of more dirt.
lmao
you're a joke kid
Timothy Horton 10-20-2009, 12:57 PM http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/ufc/2685691/UFC-star-Dan-Hardy-blasts-back-at-Bernard-Hopkins.html
DAN HARDY has hit back at Bernard Hopkins' claim that mixed martial arts is nothing more than 'entertainment ****ography'.
Boxing legend Hopkins, 44, said he would never pay to see an MMA bout and rubbished claims it could replace boxing as the world's No1 combat sport.
He said: "I'm not buying a ticket to watch two grown men with panties on, sweating, with nuts in their face. It's a ****o — it's an entertainment ****o."
However, B-Hop's comments have left UFC superstar Dan Hardy fuming.
The 27-year-old has carved an impressive reputation in the UFC and is now regarded as Britain's No1 MMA fighter.
But he is outraged by the Executioner's derisory comments and insists the veteran is scared the lack of top talent in boxing will see more people switch from the sweet science to MMA.
Speaking exclusively to SunSport, Hardy roared: "Hopkins is allowed his opinion but I don't think this is what he really thinks.
"He knows that MMA is a tough sport and that the people involved are professional athletes.
"I remember him talking very well of Randy Couture a couple of years ago after watching Randy train.
"I get the feeling Hopkins lashed out at the UFC and MMA like he did because he knows nobody under the age of 35 cares about boxing any more.
"It must be hard to accept for people of his age, he has dedicated his life to a sport and now it is being eclipsed by something more exciting — the UFC.
"A large percentage of UFC fans are the people that used to buy boxing pay-per-views, but they now opt for the UFC instead.
"It's a difficult pill to swallow, I'm sure, but that's the reality of the situation and taking little digs at the UFC and MMA fans won't change this.
"It seems Hopkins has a tendency to speak before thinking, what with his racist comment before his fight with Joe Calzaghe fight, and now his homophobic remark."
Hardy also rubbished the American's allegation that most MMA fans have chains and masks in their closets and offered to settle the score with him face-to-face.
The Outlaw blasted: "Insinuating that UFC fans must have chains and masks in their closets is just ridiculous.
"If I remember correctly, Hopkins enters the ring wearing a gimp mask, right?
"I think most MMA fans will give his criticism the contempt it deserves, but Hopkins is welcome to come and have a go if he doesn't take UFC fighters seriously.
"I'll take that fight and would promise not to wear panties and to keep my nuts off his face."
Hardy is spot on here. Hopkins is just taking petty digs at MMA to cope with its rise in popularity and it taking the no.1 combat sport spot. It's funny how the dumb ones like Hopkins and Arum take shots at it but intelligent guys like DLH and RJJ realise its more popular and try to promote iti love when these meat heads try to claim that boxing is dying yet we're still producing numbers on PPV much higher than UFC...
Timothy Horton 10-20-2009, 01:06 PM Just because it was 20 years ago doesn't take away from any wrong doings or the fact that he was a "thug". Tyson was thrown in jail for rape and did his time, that doesn't mean he's no longer a rapist or convicted sex offender.
While Bernard may not need to rob people anymore, he still acts like a thug, as do plenty of professional boxers.actually they've both done their time and thus are no longer criminals or thugs. At least if you're referring to the laws in North America.
Timothy Horton 10-20-2009, 01:11 PM And Black people like Weed, cheap malt liquor, and mugging people.
Asian people like Martial Arts, Rice, Sake, and and all sound like Dat Phan.
Middle Eastern People are all terrorists.
do you realize how stupid you sound now?
If I remember correctly aren't you white?It's no more stupid than you saying that people under 35 don't have an interest boxing. I got a whole crew of my boys who watch the fights with me either here at home or at a bar. All - or at least most - are well under thirty-five.
Bottomline is that people have been saying boxing is dying for years. It's still breathing steadily and healthily.
GroundSt.Pound 10-20-2009, 01:50 PM It's no more stupid than you saying that people under 35 don't have an interest boxing. I got a whole crew of my boys who watch the fights with me either here at home or at a bar. All - or at least most - are well under thirty-five.
Bottomline is that people have been saying boxing is dying for years. It's still breathing steadily and healthily.
I never said anything of the sort. I know plenty of people (myself) included who still watch boxing that are my age. I just watched the Super Six with three of my friends on Friday, all who are under 30.
I also never said boxing was dying but you have to admit it's not gaining anymore popularity recently like MMA has, but again that doesn't mean it's dying. But there are improvements in boxing that can be made to make it better.
Nobody wants it to die, especially me, I love both sports.
Talon 10-21-2009, 05:31 AM i garuntee you hopkins doesnt care if a few people get MMA PPVs instead of boxing. he wouldnt want those fans anyways. hopkins knows MMA is not "taking over" .. so whatever he said was for another reason
the reason all these mma guys are saying its taking over, is because all of the dumb redneck parrot chuck liddel fans will repeat it and actually believe it. anyone who doesnt know anything will hear it, believe it, and jump on the bandwagon like the weak minded followers they are. mma and its fans can go to hell
i used to like mma before anybody even knew what it was. my dad had me watching UFC when i was just a toddler..
but the fans piss me off, and the more popular it gets the more watered down it gets. the ultimate fighter show sells, but it makes me sick that everybody thinks they can make it. id like to see these guys in mexico trying to make it boxing.. ive done BJJ ive wrestled guys that train under mark kerr.. i respect some of these guys. but most of them, and fans, suck ass.
Southpaw Stinger 10-21-2009, 06:06 AM o thanks christ you pointed that out. was i the only one here that didn't know the difference before he explained it?
Aye, I'm glad he pointed it out too.
Before I read his post I thought you were only allowed to use fists in a street fight. The fella has really opened my eyes..
Macho Madness 10-21-2009, 06:58 AM that video with frank shamrock pretty much proved how much more advanced and difficult boxing is,
i love watching mma knockouts but all it is is simply a specatacle, boxing is a scientific calculated sport, mma is most of the time messy and whenever a boxr gets on teh inside and throws punches he get a knockout that simple
andalusian81 10-21-2009, 08:20 AM I like both sports but what I hate about MMA are the trying hard fans. Wearing affliction and tapout tshirts and stuff like that.
Move BRICKS™ 10-21-2009, 10:59 AM I wonder if anyone in this thread or on this entire forum understands what boxing looked like when it was only a few years old. Anyone?
Did it look a little sloppy? Rough around the edges? Oh, is that kind of like MMA today?
It's ridiculous that boxing fans can't give MMA credit and MMA fans can't give boxing props.
Tysonisgod 10-21-2009, 12:34 PM The way i see it, a fan of boxing and MMA, boxin first.
Guys like George Foreman, Mike Tyson, Ali and Roy Jones, have either said they like MMA or would like to do mma, OR even been seen at MMA events, Ali is only one ive not heard sayin he would like to try MMA, obvioulsy lol but Foreman said and its in the ring mag in the quote bit, "I love MMA, i wish they had that around when i was coming up, it would be my thing, no one would have done a rope-a-dope to me.
Tyson and Jones both wanted to fight in MMA and Jones still would, and Tyson prob would if you got him the money upfront. Guys like these know how hard MMA guys work at their sports and its dedication, for every 10 hard workin mma guys there are 1 guy who isn't same with boxing.
The biggest thing with boxin is, its gonna stay the same, forever. MMA is always changin, just look at Ju jitsu, for years it was said to be done the gracie way, then Eddie Bravo comes out and does a NO-GI, way and it really works better, depending on who uses it, as i train in mma i no that Bravo's stuff works better for me.
The point it, MOST boxers say this is a real hard sport etc and give respect.
Guys like Mayweather, who i love, make comments and say this and that and call different guys out, like he did with Sean Sherk, but Din Thomas called out Mayweather and Cintron when that was happenin and then nothin was ever said about it, and obviously they wont go in the cage cos they are boxers so they should either man up and back up their fight talk in the cage, without any MMA trainin cos they say the would knock any mma fighter out, so they dont need ground game, or they should shut up
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