Congratulations to Morales!!! I thought he won a close fight. Some people scored it a draw or even gave the fight to Manny but the majority rightfully acknowleges Morales won. There are also alot of people that have been saying that a rematch is unnecessary. To them I say bull ****! This fight brought as much to the table as any of the great fights in recent memory. I would like to say to all of you who think that Morales deserves another shot at Barrera who has won 2 of the last 3 meetings and the 3rd, I must say, a desisive win in a close fight by Barrera. Some thought that Morales won but most rightfully acknowledged Barrera as the winner. Is there really a need for a fourth bout between the two. You bet! Just like there is a need for a rematch between Pacquiao and Morales. The fans will demand it. It is only fair for Pacquiao whos heart and courage make him deserving of another shot. Great fighters have gotten rematches on lesser and more decisive one sided victories in the past only to rewrite the outcome. A fighter like Pacquiao should not be allowed to fade into obscurity based on a match that still leaves much to the imagination. There are still alot of what ifs and 12 rounds was just not enough. I can still see Pacquiao being able to win againts Morales as do many others. I think Morales needs to take another 7 or knock Pac out to really convince me. On the other hand Pac will need to win 14 rounds or ko Morales to convince me as well. It is 1-0 7rds to 5 -Morales. I don't think the final bell has rung. If heart and courage can get a fighter anything it should be a second chance.

i had pac winning 3 rounds the first the 5th and the 12th. i was drunk.

Congratulations to Morales!!! I thought he won a close fight. Some people scored it a draw or even gave the fight to Manny but the majority rightfully acknowleges Morales won. There are also alot of people that have been saying that a rematch is unnecessary. To them I say bull ****! This fight brought as much to the table as any of the great fights in recent memory. I would like to say to all of you who think that Morales deserves another shot at Barrera who has won 2 of the last 3 meetings and the 3rd, I must say, a desisive win in a close fight by Barrera. Some thought that Morales won but most rightfully acknowledged Barrera as the winner. Is there really a need for a fourth bout between the two. You bet! Just like there is a need for a rematch between Pacquiao and Morales. The fans will demand it. It is only fair for Pacquiao whos heart and courage make him deserving of another shot. Great fighters have gotten rematches on lesser and more decisive one sided victories in the past only to rewrite the outcome. A fighter like Pacquiao should not be allowed to fade into obscurity based on a match that still leaves much to the imagination. There are still alot of what ifs and 12 rounds was just not enough. I can still see Pacquiao being able to win againts Morales as do many others. I think Morales needs to take another 7 or knock Pac out to really convince me. On the other hand Pac will need to win 14 rounds or ko Morales to convince me as well. It is 1-0 7rds to 5 -Morales. I don't think the final bell has rung. If heart and courage can get a fighter anything it should be a second chance.
Pac deserves a rematch..with Barrera, but if he fights Morales 100 times, Morales will have 100 more victories, styles make fights and Manny's style will never be competitive vs. Morales, it's similar to the Holyfield-Tyson theory, everybody's got a bullet with their name on it, and EM is the bullet that will blow PacMan away, every time, at any weight, on any date

the 3rd, I must say, a desisive win in a close fight by Barrera. Some thought that Morales won but most rightfully acknowledged Barrera as the winner. .

I do not mean to be rude, but anyone who thinks Morales won the third fight may need prescription glasses. That was a complete blowout,IMO. :eek:

I think it is exaggerated that Erik has Pac's "number". You never know if the differences in gloves and the supposed headbutt which caused the bad cut might alter the outcome of the fight. The fight was close enough that it is certainly conceiveable that Pac could win if they fought again in a year or two.

However, that's for later. As for right now, I think Pac and MAB should fight again as well.

Pac deserves a rematch..with Barrera, but if he fights Morales 100 times, Morales will have 100 more victories, styles make fights and Manny's style will never be competitive vs. Morales, it's similar to the Holyfield-Tyson theory, everybody's got a bullet with their name on it, and EM is the bullet that will blow PacMan away, every time, at any weight, on any date
That is your opinion and it is respected. But you are being a tiny bit on the Morales nuthugger side as this fight was CLOSE. Decisive but competitive. I saw sparks in Pacquiao that goes againts your 100 for 100 assesment. Morales got worked as well. To cross out pacquiao would be a sign of disrespect or maybe even fear which is a compliment. He is deserving of a rematch. He wants it and he deserves it PERIOD. One thing I have learned from Morales is to never underestimate heart. You know Pacquiao has it and even Erik respected Manny for it, said it was one of the toughest fights of his career. You must be trippin if you don't think a rematch is in order.

No, Morales has Pac's number. If Pac wants to beat Morales he would need to reinvent himself almost totally. Pac was beaten you can see it in his face. I had a hard time accepting it but when it's in front of you how can you not.

I think it is exaggerated that Erik has Pac's "number". You never know if the differences in gloves and the supposed headbutt which caused the bad cut might alter the outcome of the fight. The fight was close enough that it is certainly conceiveable that Pac could win if they fought again in a year or two.

However, that's for later. As for right now, I think Pac and MAB should fight again as well.

The gloves would of probably made some difference but it wouldn't have change the outcome in my opinion. I think Pacquiao actually fought better after he got cut then before he got cut. Did anyone else notice that Morales wasn't all busted up the way he usually is after fights? Maybe with the Reyes gloves Morales would of been busted up a little more but he still would of beat Pac that night.

[QUOTE=Super_Lightweight] The fight was close enough that it is certainly conceiveable that Pac could win if they fought again in a year or two.
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i believe that pac can beat morales...with the right tools and mind-set.

The gloves would of probably made some difference but it wouldn't have change the outcome in my opinion. I think Pacquiao actually fought better after he got cut then before he got cut. Did anyone else notice that Morales wasn't all busted up the way he usually is after fights? Maybe with the Reyes gloves Morales would of been busted up a little more but he still would of beat Pac that night.

Pac wasn't doing enough damageto bust up EM. He was way way too inaccurate with teh volume of punches he threw.

I think it is exaggerated that Erik has Pac's "number". You never know if the differences in gloves and the supposed headbutt which caused the bad cut might alter the outcome of the fight. The fight was close enough that it is certainly conceiveable that Pac could win if they fought again in a year or two.

However, that's for later. As for right now, I think Pac and MAB should fight again as well.

I am one to belive that gloves should not matter. Manny still would have lost that night if they were wearing Cleto Reyes'. The cut is a part of boxing and **** happens. But all I wan't to see is Erik and Manny do it again on a different night. You know the great ones always come back with something special. If all you fans want to see something special, you should be beggin for a rematch between the two. I know Manny is a great fighter and Erik is a great fighter. They should do it again. The greatest fights were spawned out of sour defeats. You all know Manny will be different for a rematch and Morales will have to adapt once more. It should be another classic. I guarantee the next fight will be better than the first. Who wins I wouldn't know.

I am one to belive that gloves should not matter. Manny still would have lost that night if they were wearing Cleto Reyes'. The cut is a part of boxing and **** happens. But all I wan't to see is Erik and Manny do it again on a different night. You know the great ones always come back with something special. If all you fans want to see something special, you should be beggin for a rematch between the two. I know Manny is a great fighter and Erik is a great fighter. They should do it again. The greatest fights were spawned out of sour defeats. You all know Manny will be different for a rematch and Morales will have to adapt once more. It should be another classic. I guarantee the next fight will be better than the first. Who wins I wouldn't know.

If Manny trains harder with the same glameplan, he'd still get beat.

even though Pac got ****ted on I still think he deserves a rematch
He might fight a different fight next time
and to the kid that says if Pac fights EM 100 times he will lose a hundred times...get off that crack man
My *****s Morales but I wont ever go as far as to say he'll win every time.

Pac wasn't doing enough damageto bust up EM. He was way way too inaccurate with teh volume of punches he threw.
Yo homie you aint Filipino are you? You don't think like one. Manny is not beaten mentally. I think that would be impossible to be honest. Manny is rarin for a rematch buddy. Believe me he is very dissappointed at this loss. It is eating him up inside. If you asked him to go 12 tommorrow with Morales he would jump right in that ring. Death don't phaze many of us. I know Manny is one of those types of Pinoys. I have no doubt in my mind.

even though Pac got ****ted on I still think he deserves a rematch
He might fight a different fight next time
and to the kid that says if Pac fights EM 100 times he will lose a hundred times...get off that crack man
My *****s Morales but I wont ever go as far as to say he'll win every time.
Glad to see rationality. Honestly people around me were nervous from round 1 to 12. I was there ringside and Morales was DEFINITELY IN DANGER the entire fight. Don't tell me Morales would win 100 of 100 when the rematch is another 50/50 fight. Honestly

Is that because he does not let bias dictate his analysis of potential matchups? Because if so, that would not be a "cultural issue".

That would be fugging retarded like your statement.
Whatever man, It was just a cultural relation on my part. This guy said that fear was written on Manny's face when I have known people like Manny all my life and fear is non-existent. I am just telling you guys the honest truth, that Manny aint afraid. That guy has been through too much in his life to be afraid. But you wouldnt know so let's leave it at that.

Yo homie you aint Filipino are you? You don't think like one. Manny is not beaten mentally. I think that would be impossible to be honest. Manny is rarin for a rematch buddy. Believe me he is very dissappointed at this loss. It is eating him up inside. If you asked him to go 12 tommorrow with Morales he would jump right in that ring. Death don't phaze many of us. I know Manny is one of those types of Pinoys. I have no doubt in my mind.

Pinoy na Pinoy, blood and bones, damn proud. Iba lang ang nakita ko sa inyo. Manny was getting beat mentally in that fight but he never conceded. The fact that Morales was mocking Manny and the latter getting pissed was signs that he was getting beat in the psy-war in the ring. Of course Manny wants an immediate rematch. He's a warrior and has the heart of a champion. But his stubborn search for vindication after a defeat without ACCEPTING defeat shows that he didn't learn anything. But I tink he knows he got beat. Kaya nyang manalo, but right now he doesn't have the right tools, preparation AND GAMEPLAN to beat a game Morales.

Whatever man, It was just a cultural relation on my part. This guy said that fear was written on Manny's face when I have known people like Manny all my life and fear is non-existent. I am just telling you guys the honest truth, that Manny aint afraid. That guy has been through too much in his life to be afraid. But you wouldnt know so let's leave it at that.

I never said Manny had fear in his face. He even said it, Morales would have needed to put him to sleep before conceding a fight. It was a brave performance, and that's why we have nothing to be ashamed of.

Glad to see rationality. Honestly people around me were nervous from round 1 to 12. I was there ringside and Morales was DEFINITELY IN DANGER the entire fight. Don't tell me Morales would win 100 of 100 when the rematch is another 50/50 fight. Honestly

Alibta watch the fight and focus on Morales istead of Manny P. Turn off the sound cuz the crowd went crazy everytime Pac moved. You'll see what I saw.

No but Mooks knows what Im talking about. Nothing to do with you. I feel you though Mooks. Pero hindi takot si Manny. Kaya niya yon sa susunod. Malaki ang Puso ni Manny babalikan niya yon ng matindi. Pero tama ka, kailangan preperado. Nasaktan niya rin si Morales hindi niya lang tinuloy ang attake niya. Pero alam ko rin ang sinasabi mo.

sure ! why not :D :cool:
different day same outcome
pacman do not need a rematch he needs a different oponent :cool:

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20050320/capt.nvab12203200603.pacquiao_morales_nvab122.jpg

But his stubborn search for vindication after a defeat without ACCEPTING defeat shows that he didn't learn anything.

ie...the shane mosley syndrome....

sure ! why not :D :cool:
different day same outcome
pacman do not need a rematch he needs a different oponent :cool:

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20050320/capt.nvab12203200603.pacquiao_morales_nvab122.jpg
Dude I can't believe you guys out of all the nationalities right now would be disrespecting Pac like that. You guys should know what Pac deserves and that it will be another pickem. You guys have had your share of the greatest warriors on the planet so you know greatness and how it can bite you back. Tell me Pacman don't have the heart to be great. It is all about the heart. That is what took Morales this far and what took Pac this far. If yall say pac don't have the skills he definitely got the heart. thats why hes were he is at. that is the only thing you cannot underestimate or you will get bit by it.

No but Mooks knows what Im talking about. Nothing to do with you. I feel you though Mooks. Pero hindi takot si Manny. Kaya niya yon sa susunod. Malaki ang Puso ni Manny babalikan niya yon ng matindi. Pero tama ka, kailangan preperado. Nasaktan niya rin si Morales hindi niya lang tinuloy ang attake niya. Pero alam ko rin ang sinasabi mo.

Kulang pare. Talagang hindi takot. Sugod todo. Mapapaiyak ka talaga. Pero mahihirapan sya. Cvt said it right, he needs SHORT CLEAN COMPACT punches. That's where he can make the most damage, but he doesn't have that yet. He only has volume for now. He'll need to get through that long jab and that right hand. He can't lead with the right hook cuz he got countered with the jab everytime. He needs to reinvent his strategy and technique. I thought if the Pac that beat Barerra would show up, Morals is cooked. Well he did but Morales was ****ig waiting...

I agree with mooks that unless Pacquiao changes up his style he would lose in a rematch. But Pacquiao changing his style is not out of the question and it would make for another great fight. For now though, i think pacquiao should go and try to fight Marquez or Barrera who he has a better chance of beating just the way he is. I'd love to see Barrera fight him again to see if he really did have a bad night.

Dude I can't believe you guys out of all the nationalities right now would be disrespecting Pac like that. You guys should know what Pac deserves and that it will be another pickem. You guys have had your share of the greatest warriors on the planet so you know greatness and how it can bite you back. Tell me Pacman don't have the heart to be great. It is all about the heart. That is what took Morales this far and what took Pac this far. If yall say pac don't have the skills he definitely got the heart. thats why hes were he is at. that is the only thing you cannot underestimate or you will get bit by it.
believe me when a said this
i don't disrespect pacman and anyway but i do believe erik is way to much to handled for manny thats all but you can believe otherwise
but you want rematch bring it on
yet a believe manny is making a big mistake by not accepting his defeat his pride is ****ing with him

ie...the shane mosley syndrome....

Ah **** I hope not. You shouldn't need to loose twice to learn you need something new.

I do not mean to be rude, but anyone who thinks Morales won the third fight may need prescription glasses. That was a complete blowout,IMO. :eek:

That was no blowout. Now I;m not saying that Morales won that fight, but that was not a blowout. If it was it wouldn't have been Fight Of Year. It would have been the beating of the year.

That was no blowout. Now I;m not saying that Morales won that fight, but that was not a blowout. If it was it wouldn't have been Fight Of Year. It would have been the beating of the year.

It was a blowout, outclassed. But there was no shortage of heart and courage from Pac.

Ah **** I hope not. You shouldn't need to loose twice to learn you need something new.
unfortunely that's the way it seems like it :(
come on pacman you don't need this right away
but if that was he really want bring it on
different day same outcome

believe me when a said this
i don't disrespect pacman and anyway but i do believe erik is way to much to handled for manny thats all but you can believe otherwise
but you want rematch bring it on
yet a believe manny is making a big mistake by not accepting his defeat his pride is ****ing with him
The fat lady has not sung yet if we are going to be fair about it. You've been around boxing and know that their are certain people who need to be seen getting beat twice(in Morales case thrice) in order to be thouroughly convincing. I just believe that Pacman is one of those special breed of fighters that will be tougher to beat the second time around. I saw Morales' knees buckle in that fight so I know anything can happen between these two. I think Barrera would beat Morales again and again and again and again, but many of you think otherwise. But that is what makes great fights and great fighters, beating the odds. Morales did it againts the favorite in Part 1, Pac has to do it in Part 2. Hopefully Morales gives Pacquiao a rematch.

That was no blowout. Now I;m not saying that Morales won that fight, but that was not a blowout. If it was it wouldn't have been Fight Of Year. It would have been the beating of the year.

Are we talking about the same fight here?

:eek: I was unnaware it was voted "Fight of the Year".

The best fight I have seen so far this year, was:

Owen Beck/Monte Barrett.

The fat lady has not sung yet if we are going to be fair about it. You've been around boxing and know that their are certain people who need to be seen getting beat twice(in Morales case thrice) in order to be thouroughly convincing. I just believe that Pacman is one of those special breed of fighters that will be tougher to beat the second time around. I saw Morales' knees buckle in that fight so I know anything can happen between these two. I think Barrera would beat Morales again and again and again and again, but many of you think otherwise. But that is what makes great fights and great fighters, beating the odds. Morales did it againts the favorite in Part 1, Pac has to do it in Part 2. Hopefully Morales gives Pacquiao a rematch.
rematch do you really think that's neccesary?

oh well bring it on
but mark my words different day same outcome
it will be another shane mosley all over again

It was a blowout, outclassed. But there was no shortage of heart and courage from Pac.
The fight was 7-5 and some people around me even thought Pac won. It was far from a blowout. Don't let the bloody eye fool you. That was from a headbutt. Pac looked messed up but without that cut not really that bad. It was a close fight that people are blowing out of proportion. According to Morales one of his toughest fights ever. So Pac did iite short of getting the W. But if he would have won one more round than it would have been a draw. Close fight so don't over exaggerate on that win. That was a heartbrake for me but I know Morales won fair and square. I just want to see a rematch for Pacs sake.

Yes as I was told Pac only knows of one way to fight, and it would be a good fight for him.The Manila Ice punch was a joke, and if that's what Roach was calling the secret weapon, it was unclassified real quick ;).Can you teach a old dog new tricks, or should Pac stick to the script. I will go with the latter, and choose the opponents more wisely next time.

believe me when a said this
i don't disrespect pacman and anyway but i do believe erik is way to much to handled for manny thats all but you can believe otherwise
but you want rematch bring it on
yet a believe manny is making a big mistake by not accepting his defeat his pride is ****ing with him

lol bull****. You just made whole thread about it lol

lol bull****. You just made whole thread about it lol
so that's my personal thread i don't see nothing wrong about it
like i said it before that estrictly for morales fan
if you were rooting for pacman i higly sugest you do not Enter
peace

The fight was 7-5 and some people around me even thought Pac won. It was far from a blowout. Don't let the bloody eye fool you. That was from a headbutt. Pac looked messed up but without that cut not really that bad. It was a close fight that people are blowing out of proportion. According to Morales one of his toughest fights ever. So Pac did iite short of getting the W. But if he would have won one more round than it would have been a draw. Close fight so don't over exaggerate on that win. That was a heartbrake for me but I know Morales won fair and square. I just want to see a rematch for Pacs sake.

Don't listen to the people around you who thought Pac won. they are the same people who believe that Pac would beat Tyson.

rematch do you really think that's neccesary?

oh well bring it on
but mark my words different day same outcome
it will be another shane mosley all over again

Common man, YOU KNOW IT IS NECESSARY. Great warrior always deserves a second chance. Unless you don't think Pacquiao has shown you enough that he does not deserve it. He clearly does. People will pay to see it again but money aside, just the principle of the matter dictates Pacquiao should get a rematch based on the way he has endeared fans with his heart and courage. He deserves a chance to be as great as Morales or Barrera. If he loses then he loses. But he deserves that opportunity.

Don't listen to the people around you who thought Pac won. they are the same people who believe that Pac would beat Tyson.
I don't. I know Morales won. I just want a rematch.

The fight was 7-5 and some people around me even thought Pac won. It was far from a blowout. Don't let the bloody eye fool you. That was from a headbutt. Pac looked messed up but without that cut not really that bad. It was a close fight that people are blowing out of proportion. According to Morales one of his toughest fights ever. So Pac did iite short of getting the W. But if he would have won one more round than it would have been a draw. Close fight so don't over exaggerate on that win. That was a heartbrake for me but I know Morales won fair and square. I just want to see a rematch for Pacs sake.

I wouldn't have felt so saddened if I didn't think it was a blowout. I saw it with my own eyes. No body told me, nobody influenced me. I had it 8-4. But for me that was a blowout and in no way close and I am as big a fan as you. And the people who thought Pac won are lying to themselves. By the way, I saw an interview in Maxboxing postfight. Morales was asked who do you think was a harder fight him or Barrera. He smirked "You saw the fight...who do you think was harder."

so that's my personal thread i don't see nothing wrong about it
like i said it before that estrictly for morales fan
if you were rooting for pacman i higly sugest you do not Enter
peace

Wow, that's some warning you give as a thread title. :rolleyes:

Common man, YOU KNOW IT IS NECESSARY. Great warrior always deserves a second chance. Unless you don't think Pacquiao has shown you enough that he does not deserve it. He clearly does. People will pay to see it again but money aside, just the principle of the matter dictates Pacquiao should get a rematch based on the way he has endeared fans with his heart and courage. He deserves a chance to be as great as Morales or Barrera. If he loses then he loses. But he deserves that opportunity.
honestly pacman was a game oponent great heart by at the end he was totally outclassed and outboxed by the most experienced and talented morales by the way how do you likeit when my boy switvhed to southpaw taunting pacman power that was the cherry on the top
if was like morales was saying to pacman "come on man i give your chance to Knock me Out and unfortunely for all yoy pacfans pacman could not deliver

Wow, that's some warning you give as a thread title. :rolleyes:
next time i'll do it :D :cool:

I wouldn't have felt so saddened if I didn't think it was a blowout. I saw it with my own eyes. No body told me, nobody influenced me. I had it 8-4. But for me that was a blowout and in no way close and I am as big a fan as you. And the people who thought Pac won are lying to themselves. By the way, I saw an interview in Maxboxing postfight. Morales was asked who do you think was a harder fight him or Barrera. He smirked "You saw the fight...who do you think was harder."
Mooks man, I know Morales won. People that watched it with me know Morales won. But I thought all through out the fight that Pac had a chance. The fight ended to quick for most of us watching it live a the MGM. I havent seen the HBO telecast but will see it after work today. Don't know how it played out on T.V. but live, I will have to say from what I saw pac was in it all the way. I saw pacs knees buckle, I saw Morales' knees buckle. Pac aint gonna win it on the score cards unless he, like you said changes his style. But Pac has the power to knock him out. It is going to take more than one punch but he definitely wobbled Morales and vice versa. I think Pac needs to fight him again. I pray to the high heavens it happens because I truly believe Pac has a very good chance of winning. More than what this fight has ingrained in our heads. Props for the respect Morales gave Pac though. He knows whats up.

Mooks man, I know Morales won. People that watched it with me know Morales won. But I thought all through out the fight that Pac had a chance. The fight ended to quick for most of us watching it live a the MGM. I havent seen the HBO telecast but will see it after work today. Don't know how it played out on T.V. but live, I will have to say from what I saw pac was in it all the way. I saw pacs knees buckle, I saw Morales' knees buckle. Pac aint gonna win it on the score cards unless he, like you said changes his style. But Pac has the power to knock him out. It is going to take more than one punch but he definitely wobbled Morales and vice versa. I think Pac needs to fight him again. I pray to the high heavens it happens because I truly believe Pac has a very good chance of winning. More than what this fight has ingrained in our heads. Props for the respect Morales gave Pac though. He knows whats up.

When did you see Morales wobble other than the twelfth?

next time i'll do it

:D :D :D .......uhhh no :mad: lol You remind me of a mexican version of evo lmao

I think Pac should fight someone else. Just like Erik should fight someone else instead of Barrera. Just my opinion though.

On at least two other occassions I saw that knee weaken. I took note when I was watching but was too hyped to remember so I will have to watch it on vhs again. Pac knees were wobbly too when he got hit. When they take a quick step to catch themselves after a big hit and I swear I see those knees wobble. It takes ALOT of will power to stay up from a big shot like the shots I seen both fighters take. But Morales was hurtable. Don't buy into his hype that he wasnt.

On at least two other occassions I saw that knee weaken. I took note when I was watching but was too hyped to remember so I will have to watch it on vhs again. Pac knees were wobbly too when he got hit. When they take a quick step to catch themselves after a big hit and I swear I see those knees wobble. It takes ALOT of will power to stay up from a big shot like the shots I seen both fighters take. But Morales was hurtable. Don't buy into his hype that he wasnt.

lol I DON'T buy the hype that he's unhurtable lol. He was hurt in the first off a body shot, he held his right rib with his left glove. I always knew he can get hurt. Pac just had nothing in the end to really knock him out. If Erik was wobbling in the end after Pac blead for 7 rounds and got picked apart, Pac had the power to knock him out. The problem was landing....

I think Pac should fight someone else. Just like Erik should fight someone else instead of Barrera. Just my opinion though.
Theoretically if they wanted easy wins. Barrera should stay away from Pac, Morales should stay away from Barrera, Pac should stay away from Morales. But what challenge is their in that. Pac will have to adjust to beat Morales or JMM. Barrera will have to adjust to Pacquiao. Now that Pac has seen what it is like to be 130 and maybe a little insight into Morales and what he has to offer needs to adjust to the more experienced fighter. I think personally at this level of greatness among these fighters that Barrera will be much much tougher for Pac in the rematch. Pac will be much much tougher for Morales as well. The good thing that came out of the Morales victory that Pac can take with him as a blessing is that he will remain hungry. He was showin signs of contentment for a bit but i know he is hungry for a rematch. That guys is torturing himself right now for losing. Pac hates to lose and thats why he will be tougher in a rematch.

Theoretically if they wanted easy wins. Barrera should stay away from Pac, Morales should stay away from Barrera, Pac should stay away from Morales. But what challenge is their in that. Pac will have to adjust to beat Morales or JMM. Barrera will have to adjust to Pacquiao. Now that Pac has seen what it is like to be 130 and maybe a little insight into Morales and what he has to offer needs to adjust to the more experienced fighter. I think personally at this level of greatness among these fighters that Barrera will be much much tougher for Pac in the rematch. Pac will be much much tougher for Morales as well. The good thing that came out of the Morales victory that Pac can take with him as a blessing is that he will remain hungry. He was showin signs of contentment for a bit but i know he is hungry for a rematch. That guys is torturing himself right now for losing. Pac hates to lose and thats why he will be tougher in a rematch.

The thing is Morales ups his game as his competition does. Morales is more versatile in the ring than both MAB and JMM in the fact that when he is into the fight he will adjust and change from brawler to boxer and back again. MAB on the other hand always chooses one or the other and sticks with it till the end. JMM is always a boxer.

He throws every punch in the book and he throws it well, he is not the quickest fighter in the world but against fighters like pac he knows how to set the pace and keep fighters like him off of him. Basically i think another 12 round fight with Morales would seriously shorten Pac's career . And pac's chances of beating Morales arent very good that we gotta admit.

Im not saying they should stick to easy fights but they should keep building on their career. Pac should fight MAB again, Im sure a rematch would be much harder on Pac than the first fight. It would build on his legacy and has a higher chance of win.

The thing is Morales ups his game as his competition does. Morales is more versatile in the ring than both MAB and JMM in the fact that when he is into the fight he will adjust and change from brawler to boxer and back again. MAB on the other hand always chooses one or the other and sticks with it till the end. JMM is always a boxer.

He throws every punch in the book and he throws it well, he is not the quickest fighter in the world but against fighters like pac he knows how to set the pace and keep fighters like him off of him. Basically i think another 12 round fight with Morales would seriously shorten Pac's career . And pac's chances of beating Morales arent very good that we gotta admit.

Im not saying they should stick to easy fights but they should keep building on their career. Pac should fight MAB again, Im sure a rematch would be much harder on Pac than the first fight. It would build on his legacy and has a higher chance of win.
I agree that maybe they should go seperate ways build up their careers and legacy and then do a rematch. The roles have been reversed because Erik has redeemed himself by beating Pac. Pac needs Morales more now to solidify his legacy. Pac and Morales are brothers in spirit that is why they respect each other alot and it shows. However it may not happen that way. Finkel and Arum are talking about doing it again this september. Well have to wait and see. The fight did so well, promoters want more money. Anyway if they had to wait, Erik would get older and that wouldnt be fair.

Yes as I was told Pac only knows of one way to fight, and it would be a good fight for him.The Manila Ice punch was a joke, and if that's what Roach was calling the secret weapon, it was unclassified real quick ;).Can you teach a old dog new tricks, or should Pac stick to the script. I will go with the latter, and choose the opponents more wisely next time.
I actually saw the Manila Ice punch a coupla times, most notably the last punches Pac threw in the 12th round. It's just too bad that Manny didn't use it a lot. There were a lot of times where he ended up in the left side of Morales after certain exchanges, if he used the right hook then, things would've been a bit different.

Pac is still improving his game and this fight well give him confidence even in defeat and his chin has been checked and it passed with flying colors. I think Pac should fight JMM first but Morales should be in the future.

Of course he deserves a rematch, its better than seeing Morales-Barrera IV...