View Full Version : Was Ali ever hurt in his fight with Foreman?


Derranged
10-15-2009, 12:52 PM
Just wondering, I never got a clear answer on this. I haven't seen the fight or a documentary on it in quite a while.

sonnyboyx2
10-15-2009, 01:22 PM
Just wondering, I never got a clear answer on this. I haven't seen the fight or a documentary on it in quite a while.

i cannot recall him being hurt at any times

mickey malone
10-15-2009, 01:34 PM
i cannot recall him being hurt at any times
Sure I heard somewhere that he pissed blood afterwards..?

TheGreatA
10-15-2009, 01:39 PM
Sure I heard somewhere that he pissed blood afterwards..?

From body punches but I don't think Ali ever showed signs of being hurt during the fight. Some claim that Ali said he was out on his feet but I've never actually heard him say this and I don't see any point in the fight where he could be.

1SILVA
10-15-2009, 01:48 PM
Just wondering, I never got a clear answer on this. I haven't seen the fight or a documentary on it in quite a while.

In the second and third rounds, Ali was hurt by some hellacious body shots and when you watch the fight you can see him wince. The key to him surviving was he kept telling Foreman that his punches were soft. Foreman in many interviews said how he was deflated throughout the fight when Ali would tell him his punches were doing no damage at all. Ali had the mind and heart of a lion.

sonnyboyx2
10-15-2009, 01:54 PM
Ali staggered Foreman with a JAB

Sugarj
10-15-2009, 01:57 PM
He didn't actually ever seem to be seriously in trouble in the fight but I'm sure in Richard Durham's biography Ali said that one particular punch sent him into a bad place. He did take some nasty head punches in that fight.

There is also a round, I forget which...where the bell goes and Foreman lands a body shot a split second afterwards which made Ali really glare as he was lead back to his corner.

Dr. Ironfist
10-15-2009, 02:06 PM
Ali had to cheat to beat a 188 pounder, Henry Cooper...Took smelling salt to revive, what a joke he was.

Derranged
10-15-2009, 03:06 PM
Ali had to cheat to beat a 188 pounder, Henry Cooper...Took smelling salt to revive, what a joke he was.

And that has to do with my topic question how?

I guess I can't complain, I constantly make relevant posts in serious threads.

boxingbuff
10-15-2009, 03:51 PM
In his book(The greatest) Ali said that Foreman hurt him once and knocked him into the half-dream room.

Ali said Foreman hit him with a upper cut that felt like it BLASTED off his jaw.He said this was in the 3rd round.

I watched the 3rd round and saw no where,where Ali appeared hurt.I just watched the entire fight also and saw no where,where Ali apprered hurt.Those body punches would seem to have hurt him though.

Ali said when he got hurt by Foreman that he kept talking to him so that George would not sense he was hurt.

Southpaw Stinger
10-15-2009, 04:15 PM
Ali had to cheat to beat a 188 pounder, Henry Cooper...Took smelling salt to revive, what a joke he was.

By Ali, you mean Dundee used the then legal smelling salt?

Princemanspopa
10-15-2009, 04:26 PM
Most fighters will always deny that they were hurt,even when it appears they were hurt but Ali usually admitted when he was hurt such as claiming Shavers had him hurt numerous times throughout their fight rather than just that one right hand that shocked the hell out of him.

By Ali, you mean Dundee used the then legal smelling salt?


I don't believe it was a legal smelling salt but such tactics aren't limited to Angelo Dundee.As late as the early 1980's,commentators would openly discuss trainers using smelling salts for their hurt fighters.

bojangles1987
10-15-2009, 06:45 PM
Ali probably got dazed and hurt a few times, pretty sure he said so. Dude was just so damn good at the mind games he never let Foreman see it.

masta
10-15-2009, 08:51 PM
I don't doubt it.

Foreman was one of the most devastating punchers to ever grace the heavyweight division. Ali took some pretty good shots that night so it's possible he was hurt. But he certainly didn't show it.

JAB5239
10-16-2009, 04:26 AM
Ali had to cheat to beat a 188 pounder, Henry Cooper...Took smelling salt to revive, what a joke he was.

Nope, he never cheated. Smelling salts were perfectly legal then.

blacklodge
10-16-2009, 06:40 AM
Imagine my suprise in 1990 or so when I first saw this fight. I had read about it being this punishing fight for Ali, that Foreman had Ali against the ropes and just laying punch after punch on him, dominating the fight and then suddenly Ali comes off the ropes and puts him down and out. This is why you don't trust most boxing history. I would be hard pressed to find a round that Foreman won.
In any case, I don't think Ali was hurt. I don't know that I would define Foreman as actually hurt as opposed to just spent and quit.

Silencers
10-16-2009, 07:26 AM
Ali said a punch in round 2 I believe it was, was a punch that had bells ringing in his head.