How well do people think Felix Savon would have done if he had of turned pro? Don King offered him 10 million one time, but he didn't accept. he beat guys like david tua, ray mercer, kirk johnson and andrew golota, and he has something like 360 wins. the only question would be how well he could have taken a punch if he had of turned pro, but he was a masterful boxer

And what would have happen if Teofilo Stevenson turned pro.
So, nobody really knows.

And what would have happen if Teofilo Stevenson turned pro.
So, nobody really knows.
I bet they would have regretted their decision (ie Joel Casamaya-headbutt)....Cuban gold medalists are treated like royalty by Castro

I bet they would have regretted their decision (ie Joel Casamaya-headbutt)....Cuban gold medalists are treated like royalty by Castro
Yeah, thats why Casamayor got a brand new bike for wining the medal, just like royalty :rolleyes: .

I really doubt that Casa ever doubted his decision as thousands of Cubans who have fleed Cuba. No one wants to live under a represeve regime, professional athlete or otherwise. I guess we'll never know how good they could've been....

Yeah, thats why Casamayor got a brand new bike for wining the medal, just like royalty :rolleyes: .
He only got a bike because Castro knew that Joel was about 2 defect.....do you think Savon and Teofilo got bicycles? I'm guessing they got Bentley's or Benz'

He only got a bike because Castro knew that Joel was about 2 defect.....do you think Savon and Teofilo got bicycles? I'm guessing they got Bentley's or Benz'
i think they probably got even more than that

i think they probably got even more than that
You're right, they are provided with homes and automobiles for winning gold, they serve as political slaves to Castro by participating in parades, community service projects, etc, and they are financially taken-care-of as long as they bow down to Castro and do everything he asks of them, because Castro needs great athletes to represent Cuba because without them, the eye of the lens would be pointed toward Castro and all of his devious actions, it's a great situation, viva communism!

You're right, they are provided with homes and automobiles for winning gold, they serve as political slaves to Castro by participating in parades, community service projects, etc, and they are financially taken-care-of as long as they bow down to Castro and do everything he asks of them, because Castro needs great athletes to represent Cuba because without them, the eye of the lens would be pointed toward Castro and all of his devious actions, it's a great situation, viva communism!
it sounds pretty bad to be used like that, maybe one day things will change, and many more great cuban boxers will turn pro

He only got a bike because Castro knew that Joel was about 2 defect.....do you think Savon and Teofilo got bicycles? I'm guessing they got Bentley's or Benz'
Hahahaha, I find it funny how people from California think Cuba is a rich paridise, full of happy people.

Hahahaha, I find it funny how people from California think Cuba is a rich paridise, full of happy people.
Uhhhh I'm well aware of how tough life is in Cuba, I'm certain that it's no shangri-la, you draw an interesting conclusion from my statements, I'm just saying that Savon and Teofilo are financially spoken-for by Castro, so they don't need to defect and turn pro in the US to make a living

Uhhhh I'm well aware of how tough life is in Cuba, I'm certain that it's no shangri-la, you draw an interesting conclusion from my statements, I'm just saying that Savon and Teofilo are financially spoken-for by Castro, so they don't need to defect and turn pro in the US to make a living
that appears to be the case

I would love to see Castro facing Bush in a boxing ring. That would be a big pay per view. :D

I would love to see Castro facing Bush in a boxing ring. That would be a big pay per view. :D
i would like to see felix savon or juan carlos gomez against bush, now that i would pay big money to see

Savon & Gomez can't put butts in the seats, Bush vs. Casamayor would be a hot ticket though

Savon & Gomez can't put butts in the seats, Bush vs. Casamayor would be a hot ticket though
yeah but savon and gomez can do the most damage,but maybe it would be a bit unfair to put george in with those big guys, casamayor would be more his weight class

yeah but savon and gomez can do the most damage,but maybe it would be a bit unfair to put george in with those big guys, casamayor would be more his weight class
But Bush would definitely have the reach adv.....man we're stupid, I need 2 get back to work!

i think savon would have done a lot better than that guy who bowe beat, he was masterful boxer, with good power, and i think he would have had a chance to become a succesful pro

i would like to see felix savon or juan carlos gomez against bush, now that i would pay big money to see


Castro is way too old now. Maybe against bush senior.

How well do people think Felix Savon would have done if he had of turned pro? Don King offered him 10 million one time, but he didn't accept. he beat guys like david tua, ray mercer, kirk johnson and andrew golota, and he has something like 360 wins. the only question would be how well he could have taken a punch if he had of turned pro, but he was a masterful boxer
meaning less victories
none of those guys proved to be a force themselves
never seen much of mercer
but he dont seem like nothin special
tua was completely untested
golotas golota
and johnson is johnson

i dont think he woulda done much had ghe turned pro
as weve seen amatures is way diff from the pros

meaning less victories
none of those guys proved to be a force themselves
never seen much of mercer
but he dont seem like nothin special
tua was completely untested
golotas golota
and johnson is johnson

i dont think he woulda done much had ghe turned pro
as weve seen amatures is way diff from the pros
yes but they were top contenders, top 10 fighters, and golota has given most of the top heavyweights problems, i do however agree that the amatures and pro ranks are very different, but i still think he had a great chance

also you have got to remember that mercer was a gold medal champion himself, and gave holyfield and lewis a very tough fight [he possibly beat lewis that night]

i think he knocked Tua out cold, and Tua was out for ten minutes, but he was just a teenager then

You could say that Savon perhaps could beat several serious top contenders, but the big question is how good is his chin. That chin has never been tested before, as far as I know Savon was knocked out once during his amateur career.

You could say that Savon perhaps could beat several serious top contenders, but the big question is how good is his chin. That chin has never been tested before, as far as I know Savon was knocked out once during his amateur career.
i don't think you always have to have a great chin to succeed, if your boxing ability is very good sometimes it dosn't matter, look at RJJ and lennox lewis

Sure Roy Jones JR and Lewis has achieved a lot of success in their career, but don't forget how they went down once in their career , with a weak chin and everybody will talking more about their defeats then what they achieved.

Sure Roy Jones JR and Lewis has achieved a lot of success in their career, but don't forget how they went down once in their career , with a weak chin and everybody will talking more about their defeats then what they achieved.
yes but they are still considered all time great fighers by many, the question was could he have done well, so if he could do as well as lewis then that means yes

with a weak chin and everybody will talking more about their defeats then what they achieved.

Not true. Roy's chin was tested vs Ruiz and Tarver in their first fight and he did well. Only after getting punched in the back of the head by Tarver in the 1st fight and getting slow did he get hit by a punch that probably would have KO'd anyone. Roy's equilibrium was messed up by losing muscle mass.

Also, the only reason people talk more about the losses is because they just happened recently...that's not Roy's legacy, period.

Not true. Roy's chin was tested vs Ruiz and Tarver in their first fight and he did well. Only after getting punched in the back of the head by Tarver in the 1st fight and getting slow did he get hit by a punch that probably would have KO'd anyone. Roy's equilibrium was messed up by losing muscle mass.

Also, the only reason people talk more about the losses is because they just happened recently...that's not Roy's legacy, period.
the fact is if your a truly great boxer like RJJ you don't have to have a geat chin anyway, you can rely on your reflexes, and overall boxing ability, and most of the time you don't get hit flush anyway, thats the point i'm making about savon

the fact is if your a truly great boxer like RJJ you don't have to have a geat chin anyway, you can rely on your reflexes, and overall boxing ability, and most of the time you don't get hit flush anyway, thats the point i'm making about savon

Truth be told, I know very little about Felix Savon's style, I just kno about his great record and that he is from CUba.

Truth be told, I know very little about Felix Savon's style, I just kno about his great record and that he is from CUba.
i believe he was a better boxer than lennox lewis, but lewis was a pro and he wasn't so we will never know

I would love to see Castro facing Bush in a boxing ring. That would be a big pay per view. :D

Castro in his prime would have beaten any US president with the exception of Teddy Roosevelt...that would have been a great ****ing fight-he would have not beaten a George W. but killed him!

Castro is not perfect there is no doubt but the one thing he is is tough! The guy was exiled in 1953 only too return with just a few men too storm the country by foot in 59.

There are very few heads of state that push for war/revolution and then jump right up too the front lines to show you how serious and dedicated they truly are about what they have been preaching.


Teddy Roosevelt did it and so did Castro and for the Fidel has a lot (not all) of respect from me.

Oh by the way Savon would have sucked and Stephenson would have been a excellent fighter, maybe a heavyweight great..

Yeah, thats why Casamayor got a brand new bike for wining the medal, just like royalty :rolleyes: .
Actually elite athletes that bring gold and respect to Cuba gets a mansion from Castro.

To answer the topic, Felix Savon fought kids. I'll give him his first, lets say 40 fights but after that, he was a grown man beating up on kids. If he turns pro nobody can really answer that question. My guess is he would've done well but don't really know. I can't see the future or what could've been, if I did then I would have made a lot of money on that Pac-Morales fight, but instead I lost my paycheck. The guy can box I've seen some of his fights. They show it a lot in Cuba. But I haven't really seen him take a big hit so that's the big question. Plus they have a headgear which helps a little.

I thought one of these dudes sparred Ali at one time.

Savon had an odd frame for a heavyweight, or so it appeared. Kinda weiry arms and lean. He looked built more for the amateur ranks than anything else. Probably woulda been a good pro as many Cuban exiles turn out 2 b but i wouldn't hold out anything more than that. Not sure how gr8 he woulda been able to hold up under a big punch

Savon was certainly well schooled though he would be a little undersized compared to Vitaly et al...if his chin was bonafide in the pro ranks, it would certainly have been very interesting..

Savon was certainly well schooled though he would be a little undersized compared to Vitaly et al...if his chin was bonafide in the pro ranks, it would certainly have been very interesting..
i wouldn't say he was undersized, the guy is about 6'6, he was a big strong guy, but i do agree with the guy who said he beat kids