View Full Version : what NOW for both fighters???
SacTown1 03-20-2005, 01:52 PM So who should Erik and Manny go after now?
Barrera-Morales 4 looks like the logical choice, September 17 (Mexican Independence Weekend) in LV would be a perfect scenario.....
Should manny go after Marquez again? I doubt that Marquez' people would let this happen, but I'd love to see it....
Should some other cats get a shot at the big 4? I've heard that Barrera-Anchondo has been rumored....should Scott Harrison come from overseas to challenge these guys? Should El Terrible move up to lightweight to fight the Castillo-Corrales winner?
Whaddya people think???
- SacTown1
nezahualcoyotl 03-20-2005, 01:54 PM I cant see Morales beating either Corrales or Castillo, but he'll give either men a hella of a scrap!
As for Manny that little mutant is still in the mix. Any fight with him is going to be HUGE! I wanna see Barrera-Pac, before JMM-Pac.
Super_Lightweight 03-20-2005, 01:55 PM Morales has no business fighting Corrales or Castillo. They would **** him UP. He should fight Marquez in my opinion, but I doubt Marquez would move up, he's a puss.
Logically, I think that MAB needs to avenge his loss to Pac and he probably will try.
I see erik morales vs barrera 4 , or JMM i wouldent want to see that cause there both mexican though he can also go up in weight like hes wanted too but i doubt it.
pacman can fight lots of people hes a monster. JMM MAB.
oldgringo 03-20-2005, 01:57 PM I think Morales should go up to 135 and take on Castillo or Corrales. Once again, Morales will be underestimated...and while I don't think he'd beat Castillo, I'd give him a good shot to outpoint Corrales. I dont think Corrales would land on Morales hard enough, or often enough to stop him. It'd be razor thin either way however and Erik would certainly be the underdog.
SacTown1 03-20-2005, 02:00 PM Morales has no business fighting Corrales or Castillo. They would **** him UP. He should fight Marquez in my opinion, but I doubt Marquez would move up, he's a puss.
Logically, I think that MAB needs to avenge his loss to Pac and he probably will try.
Morales and Marquez will never fight, Bob Arum has said so multiple times that he won't have his 2 mexican warriors go head-to-head....I agree that Castillo would smash Morales to pieces, but he has a good chance vs. Chico
m00ks 03-20-2005, 02:00 PM I think Morales should go up to 135 and take on Castillo or Corrales. Once again, Morales will be underestimated...and while I don't think he'd beat Castillo, I'd give him a good shot to outpoint Corrales. I dont think Corrales would land on Morales hard enough, or often enough to stop him. It'd be razor thin either way however and Erik would certainly be the underdog.
Morales would spear Corales' body like a caveman. If he boxes, he can. And Castillo would **** him up.
nezahualcoyotl 03-20-2005, 02:02 PM I think Morales should go up to 135 and take on Castillo or Corrales. Once again, Morales will be underestimated...and while I don't think he'd beat Castillo, I'd give him a good shot to outpoint Corrales. I dont think Corrales would land on Morales hard enough, or often enough to stop him. It'd be razor thin either way however and Erik would certainly be the underdog.
Well see after May who Morales will be fighting next. Even though Erik has a better chance of beating Corrales I want to see Castillo win.
Agave 03-20-2005, 02:18 PM I think MAB needs to prove he had a bad night in San Antonio...! :boxing:
MAB vs MP II
jpboxer3 03-20-2005, 02:31 PM If Castillo wins against Corrales(Morales probably wont fight Castillo since they're good friends),I think the fight that would be most exciting for Morales,is a fight against the "Baby Bull" Juan Diaz.I think Morales can outsmart Diaz easily through 12rds.This could turn out to be a Great war though.
Pac should still get a shot at both JMM and MAB,IMO.The fight I really wanna see is Pacman vs Joan "The Little Tyson" Guzman.
xrhythmxnxbluesx 03-20-2005, 02:32 PM pacman vs barrera... i wanna see if the first one is just a fluke... morales vs. marquez... jjm needs to stop being a ***** and fight... and after thats done... the winners in both should fight each other...
.::|ULTIMATE|::. 03-20-2005, 03:11 PM Morales and Castillo are friends and stablemates, Morales will wait for Castillo to go up to 140 before moving to 135. Morales if anyone ever deserved an easy fight was him. So he should probably fight an easy fight next and move up after castillo beats Corrales. What will likely end up happening however is Morales will be forced to fight against Barrera again.
Manny Pacquiao should try hard as hell to get a fight against Barrera. He d be the easiest to beat out of the 3 and would probably net him a bigger pay check than Marquez. The he could either A get a JMM rematch though i think he would loose, or push for another fight against Erik but i think he would loose also.
He should fight Chi or Juarez that would be good.
Floydmayweather 03-20-2005, 03:38 PM After seeing the Morales/Pac fight i have no doubt Pac would mess Jmm up. He has become more versitile and can take his punches. Morales should JMM and Pac should fight Barrera. The winners should then fight. ;)
PessimisticPug 03-20-2005, 03:45 PM they will both go home, and rest. The cuts, the bruises, the lumps on their head, the sore ribs and shoulders, they deserve a rest. They will think of nothing but how happy they are to be with their families again and will be thankfull that everything is said and done and everybody came out ok, ala nobody seriously injured. They wont even think about the gym for a week or two and then that itch will get back under their skins. The need to grow and build and to be in the gym again...........Rockin'
FourPunchCombo 03-20-2005, 03:51 PM Pacquiao heads back down to 126 and finishes business with JMM.
Morales gets his ass whooped against Barrera at 130.
adeelr 03-20-2005, 03:59 PM what now??? both of em go home and sleep....
Morales should move up in weight and forget about barrera, i dont think a 4rth fight is necassary, so he should go up and try to fight, mayweather or gatti...
.::|ULTIMATE|::. 03-20-2005, 04:06 PM what now??? both of em go home and sleep....
Morales should move up in weight and forget about barrera, i dont think a 4rth fight is necassary, so he should go up and try to fight, mayweather or gatti...
He could fight Mayweather at a catch 138lb limit,
Gatti would be too big for him though.
I doubt Mayweather would fight Morales though, Mayweather was on the short end of a stick in a sparring session they had and from what i hear it was bad. So..
Hurlex 03-20-2005, 04:09 PM MAB vs Manny 2...of course....oh and MAB has a great chance with all the blueprints and at 130,he has his head claer also and confidence so i say MAB/Manny 2 no doubt....why doesnt JMM fight Morales...we wll know they both beat PAC,so it should happen instead of both of them fighting bums
Super_Lightweight 03-20-2005, 04:46 PM Mayweather was on the short end of a stick in a sparring session they had and from what i hear it was bad.
Don't even play, dude. It's called sparring for a reason (if that's even true). Mayweather would **** Morales up. Morales weighs 140 in fights while Castillo weighs 153, and Mayweather did a number on Castillo who in my opinion would also destroy Morales.
I really doubt they would ever fight.
Super_Lightweight 03-20-2005, 04:49 PM we wll know they both beat PAC,
Actually, no. Let's not do the revisionist history thing. JMM would have received an official loss to Pac had it not been for a scoring error in the 1st round made by a judge who was unsure of how to score the round due to all the knockdowns.
JMM adjusted well and won most of the rounds, but he did not win the fight. Officially it was a draw, and it should have been a win for Pac on the judge's scorecards. Read *********.
.::|ULTIMATE|::. 03-20-2005, 05:09 PM Actually, no. Let's not do the revisionist history thing. JMM would have received an official loss to Pac had it not been for a scoring error in the 1st round made by a judge who was unsure of how to score the round due to all the knockdowns.
JMM adjusted well and won most of the rounds, but he did not win the fight. Officially it was a draw, and it should have been a win for Pac on the judge's scorecards. Read *********.
You say lets not do the revisionist thing but you do anyway. JMM was seen winning that fight just as much as pacquiao. What the judge did and did not score is irrelevant as some of the rounds the judges scores should have gone JMM's way.
.::|ULTIMATE|::. 03-20-2005, 05:12 PM Don't even play, dude. It's called sparring for a reason (if that's even true). Mayweather would **** Morales up. Morales weighs 140 in fights while Castillo weighs 153, and Mayweather did a number on Castillo who in my opinion would also destroy Morales.
Your doing a A beat B and B beat C so A beats C comparison. I also agree that Castillo would mess Morales up and stop him.
However Mayweather and Morales they would both Box. Mayweather while he does throw combinations is rare and does more one punch here one punch there.
It would be a good fight. Dont get me wrong i would put my money on Mayweather to win but Morales has wanted a shot at Mayweather for a while now.
Super_Lightweight 03-20-2005, 05:18 PM What the judge did and did not score is irrelevant as some of the rounds the judges scores should have gone JMM's way.
I respect your opinion, but it's crazy to say it's not relevant. Of course it is, a slight difference in scoring would have awarded the fight to Pac. JMM adjusted well but he would have had to win ALMOST all of the rounds left to really be considered the winner. In any case, I am not engaging in revisionist history. JMM didn't really win the fight, it was a draw, and it is an indisputable fact that one judge made a scoring error, that without, Pac would have been made the winner. How you scored the rest of the fight is another issue.
As for Mayweather and Morales, I'm using size as an issue, not the whole "Mayweather beat Corrales so he beats Morales" thing. Morales does not have boxing skills like Mayweather, and he needs to be as big and as powerful or bigger than Castillo to beat Mayweather, and he simply is NOT. Morales just does not have the size to impose any will on Mayweather.
.::|ULTIMATE|::. 03-20-2005, 05:23 PM I respect your opinion, but it's crazy to say it's not relevant. Of course it is, a slight difference in scoring would have awarded the fight to Pac. JMM adjusted well but he would have had to win ALMOST all of the rounds left to really be considered the winner. In any case, I am not engaging in revisionist history. JMM didn't really win the fight, it was a draw, and it is an indisputable fact that one judge made a scoring error, that without, Pac would have been made the winner. How you scored the rest of the fight is another issue.
As for Mayweather and Morales, I'm using size as an issue, not the whole "Mayweather beat Corrales so he beats Morales" thing. Morales does not have boxing skills like Mayweather, and he needs to be as big and as powerful or bigger than Castillo to beat Mayweather, and he simply is NOT. Morales just does not have the size to impose any will on Mayweather.
YEs you are engaging in revisionist story, you keep saying you are not but you are man. how come you can point out the error in the first round but u dont point out the errors of some rounds that were scored in pacs favor that should have gone to JMM.
Half the world saw JMM half the other saw Pac win. A draw is probably fair but to say PAC deserved the win cus of the error that would have favored pac is unfair as there were errors that favored JMM.
Chups 03-20-2005, 05:33 PM Its A Draw!!!!
jackhole 03-20-2005, 08:37 PM I don't think Morales steps in there with MAB with the possibility of going down 3 out of 4 times to a man he hates. Also, why give MAB the big payday? Rematch with Pac.
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