Am I picking on something that isn't there, or is there a slighy xenophobic attitude in America to English fighters?

Don't get me wrong, I was in the US last month - I had a great time. But when you see an English guy boxing there seems to be a real sensation of people willing them to fail, in a way that they don't other "foreigners". Mind you, Lennox was hard to like.

Am I picking on something that isn't there, or is there a slighy xenophobic attitude in America to English fighters?

Don't get me wrong, I was in the US last month - I had a great time. But when you see an English guy boxing there seems to be a real sensation of people willing them to fail, in a way that they don't other "foreigners". Mind you, Lennox was hard to like.


....Your absolutley right. I hate all British fighters and I think their all *****'s. :) Just kidding of course.

i dont care where your from. all i care about is talent and **** like that

exactly, I could give a **** about where a guy is from, if you can fight you can fight. Joe Calzaghe is a guy that I defend all the time, I think he is an amazing fighter, however it gets tougher and tougher to defend him as each year passes because he inability to land a meaningful fight.

I actually posted this before I read the 6-7th pages of "Is Danny Williams a bum?"

I was thinking more of general audiences, though - I must say, this forum does seem more discerning than other boxing forums, people here actually want to talk about boxing and do have knowledge of their subject. Trash talk can be funny... to a point. In another forum I won't mention, or talk about, there's way too much of it.

It is usually British heavyweights that take the abuse usually. Apart from Lennox lewis they lacked heart in big fights. Frank Bruno lacked heart and went out holding Mike Tyson like a scared *****. He disgraced his country by holding and rabbit punching. Herbie Hide give in when Riddick Bowe hit him once and kept trying to get the fight stopped by bouncing off the canvas. Joe Bugner also didn`t have the balls to stand and fight with Ali or Frazier and lasted the distance but his cowardly way of fighting blew it for him in the eyes of America. The only British heavy who was mentally tough was Lennox lewis to an extentand henry Cooper. Cooper kept bleeding but never quit. Danny Willims may have beaten Tyson but his past losses were pityful, he`d freeze mentally and give up before the opening bell. Keep this in mind for the Klitscko fight!

Right now, guys like Ricky Hatton and Joel Calzaghe get flak for not leaving their country to fight. I don't think it's xenophobic to think that someone who is a world-class athlete should prove it against others. And when the best tend to fight in the US (many of them immigrating), it's easy to dismiss someone unwilling to do the same as a local hero.

Props to Danny Williams for coming over to fight. Now if we can just get those other guys over here to fight Tszyu and Lacy...

I think Neils has the right idea here. Its not that people are agaist English fighters in general, its just that lets face it, you want big fights and respect you have to go to America and fight the best. If you stay holed up in your own country (be it England, Cambodia, wherever) you not only wont achieve glory, you will attract scorn. I believe most of the negative attitudes come from English fighters who for whatever reason dont step up to the big time.

But I agree with the comment that I dont care where your from, if you can fight you can fight. Just be able to prove it :)

I think Neils has the right idea here. Its not that people are agaist English fighters in general, its just that lets face it, you want big fights and respect you have to go to America and fight the best. If you stay holed up in your own country (be it England, Cambodia, wherever) you not only wont achieve glory, you will attract scorn. I believe most of the negative attitudes come from English fighters who for whatever reason dont step up to the big time.

But I agree with the comment that I dont care where your from, if you can fight you can fight. Just be able to prove it :)
well said.

"It's something about all of these great fighters coming from England."
-George Foreman..

I'm english and my opinion is that out 'top' fighters need to travel the world to get world wide respect, it doesn't take a genius to work that out.
If your a good fighter then i'm not bothered where your from, just be willing to prove it.
I can appreciate with some of the american fighters that they can make money in their home town or state etc but if they travelled the world, and i don't just mean britain and europe ;) then i'd certainly warm to them a little bit more (nice to see fighters in the flesh). Say just for example if someone like hopkins fought eastman over here the money generated would be awesome, like when tyson fought at the m.e.n against francis who at best has only been an average domestic level fighter, he sold the place out and then some.
Real fight fans like myself who would love to travel everytime a big fight was on but can't cos of family priorities, we would come out in droves to see a well respected champion fight close by.
By the way did any of you rate McGuigan

if thats the case how come there are so many detractors to Naz, and also I had an argument yesterday about howard eastman deservedly getting his shot at Hopkins, you cant have it both ways. "I like english fighters but they should travel more" and then argue that a mandatory number one challenger doesnt deserve his shot agianst hop in the USA, they have to have the opportuinty to travel to be able to fight abroad, if you deny them that then of course they will fight in their back yard........... :confused: :confused: :confused:


i know people are going to fire off hatotn as a counter- example or calzaghe, Well hatotn will fight stateside next year, and Calzaghe well you are right about calzaghe he shgould have got off hios arse a long time ago instead of fighting fringe top tenners.

Was that directed at me JPW???

"if thats the case how come there are so many detractors to Naz,"

JPW...

It's so obvious that the world's dislike for this guy has nothing to do with him fighting out of the U.K.

His ridiculous style & attitude is what brings the hate.

I can see why his attitude was annoying to alot of people but his style was amazing. He did things with that style that some thought were impossible.

i agree, there were people that were saying danny williams is a bum (i'm sure almost certainly all americans) and then some idiots thinking that hasim rahman could unify the division. I mean what the hell!!!!!!!!!!!! If danny williams was american all the yanks would be saying that he will beat klitschko! but there you go, this is a country that recently voted george bush in as their president for a second term,nice!

Amazing ? At times, other times it was ludicrous.

(Laughing) He made a serious sport with set grownded ways look like a whole new world. What was ludicrous about his style in your opinion Jabs?

He showboated too much......& flew all over the ring, looking like an *******.

There were times he did things, & I marveled at how he could both do & get away with those things.

He showboated too much......& flew all over the ring, looking like an *******.

There were times he did things, & I marveled at how he could both do & get away with those things.

i totally agree jabs i couldnt stand him but i rate him on his boxing ability, keeping the two seperate, i shouted for barerra by thew way and you know how I'll fight for brit fighters credibility!!! :eek: So that tells you how much i disliked Naseem, that apart he still was a quality operator when he was with ingle.
No ironone that wasnt aimed at you mate. Dont recall you and i discussing eastman yest, and it wasnt a pop at the guy whom i was discusisng it with really, just an example.....


by the way irone BBC3 9 PM SUNDAY the whole new series mate back to back !


"i want that one" :D :D

danny williams could be from pakistan, he's still a flash in the pan, i happen to like a few UK fighters Nigel Benn, being one of my all time fav's, i liked Eubanks also, can't stand to hear about Ricky Hatton, or Jcal, hatton talking all that **** about KT, Kostya would destroy that guy, he's the mandatory for the IBF, he was WBA #1 contender what happened there? Frank warren is afraid of losing his meal ticket, but i got respect for anyone brave enough to step in there and trade punches, be they korean, mexican, british, irish, purple, it doesn't matter, but when guys get built up beating stiffs, and never wheres , how can they go about calling out named fighters. I hate ppl who will run their mouths then back out of rankings as opposed to having to back up their big words I.E. ricky hatton, not fighting V Harris for fear it would go to purse bids and he would get his ass kicked and not get enough $$ in return, ****in coward!

totally agree with the stuff about hatton. Warren has a lot to answer for a lot of his fighters not having defining fights! He does not nake competitive fights for the public, he just looks to line his fighter's pockets and his own. Some one say that is him doing his job well, but it ain't good for us fight fans.

Am I picking on something that isn't there, or is there a slighy xenophobic attitude in America to English fighters?

Don't get me wrong, I was in the US last month - I had a great time. But when you see an English guy boxing there seems to be a real sensation of people willing them to fail, in a way that they don't other "foreigners". Mind you, Lennox was hard to like.

I think there definitely is, and poor Lennox got the brunt of it. He is a GREAT heavyweight champion and should get all of the respect in the world. The U.S. has tried to keep its dominance in boxing while it was waning, and has seen England as the scapegoat and targeted their fighters. England being a great rival of theirs. But now that U.S. boxing dominance is in the dumps, at the amateur level and at certain other divisions, they have nobody to blame..there are tons of former Soviet Union countries which have great fighters and champs.

and hence them deserving the dissrespect htey have. But American fans need to realize that sometimes their own fighters are getting protected just as much as European fighters, although on the Average I'd say European fighters are much more protected. Heck, look at Valuev.

There is no problem with amateur boxing in the U.S.

the problem is the bull**** international boxing has become....due to the ridiculous scoring system.

The U.S. REFUSES to train it's fighters to fight the way necessary to win internationally.
I say, "Thank God" to that.

Amateurs (internationally) are being forced to fight in a fashion that resembles fencing, more than it does boxing/fighting.

You can make fun of me all you want JPW, it is always deserved.

I have heard you bring up the Yorkshire hunters name a few times and I was wondering if you could give me an update as to his health?

A couple of months a go I purchase Ingle/Naz which I had to have for my collection, I also loved Ingle vs. JR. Jones...he was a tough little scrapper that almost got the job done against the prince, I hope he is doing better...what is his status?

by the way irone BBC3 9 PM SUNDAY the whole new series mate back to back !


"i want that one" :D :D[/QUOTE]

LMAO I missed last night ep, wifey said it rocked esp Lou and Andy, I'll download it, def gonna watch those on beeb3

I want to go as the baby jesus!!!!!

I dont really want to stereo type US boxing fans but its definitly true, Most(not all) assume that a boxer is no good if they dont fight in the US, most US fans assume that a fighter is useless before they have even seen them.

A good example is Strum, everyone said he had no chance against DLH before anyone had even seen him fight!! :p LMAO.

I dont really want to stereo type US boxing fans but its definitly true, Most(not all) assume that a boxer is no good if they dont fight in the US, most US fans assume that a fighter is useless before they have even seen them.

A good example is Strum, everyone said he had no chance against DLH before anyone had even seen him fight!! :p LMAO.


In the case of Sturm facing Oscar.....it was a case of an inexperienced, unknown commodity facing one of the best in the world. Didn't even mater that Oscar had never fought at 160.
Also, considering Oscar had the Hopkins fight signed, it was hard to imagine his people scouted out Sturm & didn't think he was easy pickings.

I know...I don't care about where a fighter is from.

In the case of Sturm facing Oscar.....it was a case of an inexperienced, unknown commodity facing one of the best in the world. Didn't even mater that Oscar had never fought at 160.
Also, considering Oscar had the Hopkins fight signed, it was hard to imagine his people scouted out Sturm & didn't think he was easy pickings.

I know...I don't care about where a fighter is from.
i agree with jabs totally, i also understand that american promoters protect their fighters also, J Taylor for one, it happens all the time but the real difference is when it's time to step up and actually fight someone as good if not better how many ppl actually do?

I dont really want to stereo type US boxing fans but its definitly true, Most(not all) assume that a boxer is no good if they dont fight in the US, most US fans assume that a fighter is useless before they have even seen them.

A good example is Strum, everyone said he had no chance against DLH before anyone had even seen him fight!! :p LMAO.

when and who particpated in the last huge pay per view event in the UK? If you can fight, you can fight i don't care where you come from. the best fighters in the world come to the US to fight do they not? Pac-man vs Marquez, a phillipino and a mexican, Sturm vs DLH german vs. mexi-american, Lewis vs Vklit, english/canadian vs ukrainian to quote the great Jimmy Page " if you make it big in england you can pay bills, if you make it big in the states you won't have bills"

it's not that people want them to fail, but simply they want them to prove they are for real!! we are still waiting on scott harrison, joe calzaghe and ricky hatton to name a few!! also junior witter, micheal gomez and alex arthur!!

I hate ppl who will run their mouths then back out of rankings as opposed to having to back up their big words I.E. ricky hatton, not fighting V Harris for fear it would go to purse bids and he would get his ass kicked and not get enough $$ in return, ****in coward!It was Harris who pulled out of the bout after initially accepting. Fair enough, his reasoning was sound - as champ why should he travel and accept less money than the challenger? - but it was Harris who pulled out after initially agreeing.

I can understand people not loving Lennox due to his aloofness and somewhat dull style, but whenever he fought people really wanted him to lose badly - look at how excited the crowd were in the second Rahman fight.

when and who particpated in the last huge pay per view event in the UK? If you can fight, you can fight i don't care where you come from. the best fighters in the world come to the US to fight do they not? Pac-man vs Marquez, a phillipino and a mexican, Sturm vs DLH german vs. mexi-american, Lewis vs Vklit, english/canadian vs ukrainian to quote the great Jimmy Page " if you make it big in england you can pay bills, if you make it big in the states you won't have bills"

Well i'm glad you dont care were fighters come from.

My point is that a fighter who nobody has seen is assumed to be bad unless they dont fight in the US. Just because the US is a good place to earn money doesnt mean you have to fight there to be good.

Its obvious from the rating etc that the best fighters are from all over the world, most will be drawn to the US for the glory and money but as long as people understand that choosing to fight outside the US is nothing other than personal preference.

If i were pro, i would love to go to the US and take your $'s!! :D But thats because i like to travel and would love to walk into a stadium full of hate agaisnt the home fighter.

Depends, if they are fighter's with limited exposure in the US, then of course people would knack them. But I don't think race is the issue here. If you can fight and you're winning, you're bound to obtain the respect of most.

it's not about race!! it's about proving ur the best and fighting the best here in the states. now im not saying fighting here in the states against the best fighters from the usa, but i mean coming over here to fight the best fighters in the world. cuz they all come here. i am mexican but i want them all to come over here to fight the best. i mean, there could be 3 or 4 or 5 badass mexican fighters within a weight division or one division away and they all fight each other over here. so why can't the british fighters come over here to face the best!! alot of them are protected and that is true!! u can't deny it!! we know the best fighters come from all over the world, but they come to the states to fight and prove they are cuz all of the best fighters come here to fight!! so british fighters need to do the same. so scott harrison, alex arthur, micheal gomez, ricky hatton, junior witter, and calzaghe need to come over here and not just talk ****!! i mean hatton and calzaghe have been saying for the last 2 or 3 years that "this was there year and would finally prove they are for realz and come fight in the usa." it hasn't happened yet! hurry up!!

scap i wasnt making fun of you mate, i was just using our conv as an example, as for Paul he had to have surgry not so long ago apparently and his weight is pretty high, but thats to be expected seeing as what he has been through.
I heard that he was working in his former trainers gym helping the kids out and stuff like that.

heres the interview actually went up on the site late last night (i didnt do this one of the other reporters did I cover the london area mainly along with other guys)

http://www.britishboxing.net/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1101329555&archive=&start_from=&ucat=&&PHPSESSID=19e6cfd6a8a787f01b76874e3903ba3d

IRONEONE ITS CLASSIC DID YOU KNOW THEY ARE DOING A LIVE STAGE TOUR !!!! Look out for it, the other one that makes me piss myself laughiung is bill bailey dya know him, funny as mate.


"I look like a right pillock" LMAO!

To me personally, It is not being English or Brittish, it is going out of England to prove your skills against the rest of the guys.

To me personally, It is not being English or Brittish, it is going out of England to prove your skills against the rest of the guys.


in which case we should see hundreds of US fighters coming over here too right?

it's not about race!! it's about proving ur the best and fighting the best here in the states. now im not saying fighting here in the states against the best fighters from the usa, but i mean coming over here to fight the best fighters in the world. cuz they all come here. i am mexican but i want them all to come over here to fight the best. i mean, there could be 3 or 4 or 5 badass mexican fighters within a weight division or one division away and they all fight each other over here. so why can't the british fighters come over here to face the best!! alot of them are protected and that is true!! u can't deny it!! we know the best fighters come from all over the world, but they come to the states to fight and prove they are cuz all of the best fighters come here to fight!! so british fighters need to do the same. so scott harrison, alex arthur, micheal gomez, ricky hatton, junior witter, and calzaghe need to come over here and not just talk ****!! i mean hatton and calzaghe have been saying for the last 2 or 3 years that "this was there year and would finally prove they are for realz and come fight in the usa." it hasn't happened yet! hurry up!!

I've no objection to British fighters fighting in America occasionally but it's hardly fair on the British fans to expect them to wait up until 4am on a regular basis to see the fights. I think I've managed it once in my life time...I usually passout in a drunken stuper about 10 minutes before the fight starts.

The main reason boxers from around the world choose to fight in the USA is the money on offer. British fighters can generally earn as much, if not more, by fighting at home so the incentive's not as great.

If the British were as good as they say they are all they would have to do is have a couple fights in the US once they won the belt Im sure plenty of Americans would be willing to fight in England.

no...american fighters are just better and american competition is much higher..and brits and other europeans wont accept it...if howard eastman fought more often against american middleweights he have 5 or 6 loses on his record

no...american fighters are just better and american competition is much higher..and brits and other europeans wont accept it...if howard eastman fought more often against american middleweights he have 5 or 6 loses on his record

get one thing right first, it's not just fighters from the usa that are good, it's fighters from all over the world. if u look at the middleweights, they are mostly from other countries, not the usa. get ur statement right. all the best COMPETITION in over in the usa cuz all fighters from all over the world come over here to fight. british fighters need to do the same and come to the states.

I couldn't manage with Tyson-Williams (it was a work night) and fell asleep, only to wake up for the last thirty seconds. I'd taped it, but I was gutted... I bet it was really exciting to see it live.

Doesn't matter if they can't speak English, so long as they can throw down and bring a good fight.

no...american fighters are just better and american competition is much higher..and brits and other europeans wont accept it...if howard eastman fought more often against american middleweights he have 5 or 6 loses on his record


sorry acquitted but that the type of dumbass comment that people regail against name me 6 american middles that are better than eastman, other than the champ and dont bloody mention taylor he is a pup and would get schooled.
Tito is peurto rican, de la hoya aint big enough......so im struggling for 6 names, rob allen? Nah, Joppy well eastman shown he can beat him and should have done......so name me 6 my friend.
back up your statement. ;)

Hey JPW long time no see. How's things going pal?

in which case we should see hundreds of US fighters coming over here too right?


Should be JPW. only I guess its the lure of the big bucks that keeps the big name fighters showing their wares in the US., esp. in las vegas where the boxing mafia resides ..

hi wez im good dude! Yourself? you have been quiet mate, covered the long skleton show for the bbn was a hoot, busy as all hell three weeks til i go on hols to singapore and oz, cant wait!

yip Mr storm, I agree but im not blind to that fact that america has the biggest and best scene in terms of global oxing, most fighters best quality etc etc this cant be denied, however i do get tired of constant arrogance as in every fighter who wants to be someone MUST go the the US, to an extent i agree but surely its healthy fo the game if we have an increased flow of fighters from both nations kinda cross pollinating you know!

Viv harris was a prime example he got half what he would have earned against hatton for fighting Urkal again and away from home in germany, that just didnt make sense to me, he cut his nose off to spite his face.

though i do think ricky should have gone to purse bids and whooped his ass for the trouble. :D

hi wez im good dude! Yourself? you have been quiet mate, covered the long skleton show for the bbn was a hoot, busy as all hell three weeks til i go on hols to singapore and oz, cant wait!

yip Mr storm, I agree but im not blind to that fact that america has the biggest and best scene in terms of global oxing, most fighters best quality etc etc this cant be denied, however i do get tired of constant arrogance as in every fighter who wants to be someone MUST go the the US, to an extent i agree but surely its healthy fo the game if we have an increased flow of fighters from both nations kinda cross pollinating you know!

Viv harris was a prime example he got half what he would have earned against hatton for fighting Urkal again and away from home in germany, that just didnt make sense to me, he cut his nose off to spite his face.

though i do think ricky should have gone to purse bids and whooped his ass for the trouble. :D


Agreed. I'd like to see Manny Pac and fight Scott Harrison over there in the near future. That would be a brawl that shouldn't be missed ! I hear Scott is a very good fighter.

hi wez im good dude! Yourself? you have been quiet mate, covered the long skleton show for the bbn was a hoot, busy as all hell three weeks til i go on hols to singapore and oz, cant wait!

Glad to hear everything is cool man, i'm fine. I've been away alot through work but i will be posting again because i just found out i have been made redundant. Thats ****ing **** but i should have another job lined up soon. The spineless two faced twats couldn't even tell me to my face, thats because i would have ***** slapped the bastards all over the Office. lol.

I missed the Skelton fight, was it any good?

:D Wow your off to Singapore and Ozzyland, thats cool man. How come you are visiting two countries?

AAAH **** DUDE SORRY TO HEAR THAT HOPE YOU LAND ON YOUR FEET.

Skelton was typical skelton, the undercard was good though meager hunt was a great scrap, heres the link to the write up,

http://www.britishboxing.net/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1100975190&archive=&start_from=&ucat=&PHPSESSID=ab3ee2a0e9977ca52c3379a9a748bf6a

ive got mates in singapore as its amajotr player in the oil trading biz, so got some old work friends out there, one in particular ive been buddies with for 12 years and he is boxing mad, so spending xmas with him and his missus (takign him a signed druan glove for his xmas present), then got an ex girly in brisbane and another old mate just outside, then im going diving up by port douglas for a few days off the barieer reff, back to singapore for a couple of days to break the flight, all in a ll im off for a month, ship it in! :cool:

before than ive got 12 nutters coming round for the danny vs vitali fight at midnite as 6 of us are going to the excel to see hatton.
:cool:

AAAH **** DUDE SORRY TO HEAR THAT HOPE YOU LAND ON YOUR FEET.

Skelton was typical skelton, the undercard was good though meager hunt was a great scrap, heres the link to the write up,

http://www.britishboxing.net/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1100975190&archive=&start_from=&ucat=&PHPSESSID=ab3ee2a0e9977ca52c3379a9a748bf6a

ive got mates in singapore as its amajotr player in the oil trading biz, so got some old work friends out there, one in particular ive been buddies with for 12 years and he is boxing mad, so spending xmas with him and his missus (takign him a signed druan glove for his xmas present), then got an ex girly in brisbane and another old mate just outside, then im going diving up by port douglas for a few days off the barieer reff, back to singapore for a couple of days to break the flight, all in a ll im off for a month, ship it in! :cool:

before than ive got 12 nutters coming round for the danny vs vitali fight at midnite as 6 of us are going to the excel to see hatton.
:cool:

Thanks, good write up that pal. The Skelton fight sounded a little messy to start off with. I remember when Danny fought Long, he made that fight messy too. Long seems like an awkward fighter to face. What do you think of Skelton then JPW? How far do you personally think he can go. I find him a very intriguing fighter because he is a man with little boxing experience and he has come up through the rankings and is proving to be a worthy fighters within the British ranks.

That Holiday sounds cool as hell man, spending Xmas in Singapore sounds freaky. What do they have for Xmas dinner? I bet the guy will be forever in your debt if your taking him a signed Duran glove. I think any boxing fan would appreciate that, especially a Duran fan. I hope you have a good time, I wish is could get away for a month. Me and some mates are going to Amsterdam soon for some perfect relaxation time. ;)

Ahhhh the fight everyone is waiting for. Have you got any news on how Danny Boy is going?

no...american fighters are just better and american competition is much higher..and brits and other europeans wont accept it...if howard eastman fought more often against american middleweights he have 5 or 6 loses on his record

The ratio between population in the US and the UK is much higher than the ratio of top 10 fighters in the US and UK.

I'm not 100% certain but i think the ratio was 6:1 in population and 2:1 in top 10 fighters. That was a couple of month ago but it prove that the US ISNT better than the UK at producing top fighters.

Thanks, good write up that pal. The Skelton fight sounded a little messy to start off with. I remember when Danny fought Long, he made that fight messy too. Long seems like an awkward fighter to face. What do you think of Skelton then JPW? How far do you personally think he can go. I find him a very intriguing fighter because he is a man with little boxing experience and he has come up through the rankings and is proving to be a worthy fighters within the British ranks.

That Holiday sounds cool as hell man, spending Xmas in Singapore sounds freaky. What do they have for Xmas dinner? I bet the guy will be forever in your debt if your taking him a signed Duran glove. I think any boxing fan would appreciate that, especially a Duran fan. I hope you have a good time, I wish is could get away for a month. Me and some mates are going to Amsterdam soon for some perfect relaxation time. ;)

Ahhhh the fight everyone is waiting for. Have you got any news on how Danny Boy is going?

YEAH MATT IS BIG ON HEART AND LOW ON TECHNIQUE!

he does what he says on the tin really ex K1 fighter turns his hand to boxing, he's a great fighter but a poor boxer = an alright package.

To be honest Long makes everyone look bad.

Euro level he can win but id expect any proficienty boxer to dance rings round him over 12 but you never know, the uppercut that finished it was a beauty.

Yeah well my mate is putting me up for two weeks so least i can do really.

Danny by all acocunts is in great shape fomr what ive been reading, mentally focussed and fitter than he has ever been.


fingers crossed. That would be a nice send off :cool:

'sup everyone!

First post! I'm a regular on **********.net...any others from there post here?

Anyways, I thought I'd check out another forum for a change, and this one seems cool.


Anyways...the British heavyweight scene has the potential to be something special. A series of fights between Danny Williams, Audley HArrison, Herbie Hide and Matt Skelton would be fantastic.

But as usual, it looks like politics and rival promotional bodies willmget in the way and spoil it all.


Sucks.

Black

'sup everyone!

First post! I'm a regular on **********.net...any others from there post here?

Anyways, I thought I'd check out another forum for a change, and this one seems cool.

Black

Welcome,

this sites cool, you will like it.

Thanks bro!

Seems a lot less spamming and immaturity on here than on bt.net


Black