pitiful............all these guys on those other websites making excuses..heck pac might have bene KTFO if thye used those reyes gloves

In the remach 'm sure they'll use Reyes gloves but really, Pac just needs to be more aggressive to win. He seemed a little to laid back from what I read tonight. Good fight though, huh?

there wont be a rematch at this point

maybe if, Pac beat JMM again and Morales beats Barrera

WTF, gloves does not matter for the best P4P fighter...

VIVA MEXICO, VIVA ERIK NUMERO UNO P4P !!!

Well...theoritically you would think so because that would also transfer more of MORALES' power right? But then again he uses the REYES gloves because his fists are more brittle which means he'll be more likely to injure fists then leading him to restrain from using more power.

pitiful............all these guys on those other websites making excuses..heck pac might have bene KTFO if thye used those reyes gloves

It isn't really so much about power or padding. It is about using the gloves that you are most comfortable with. I don't think it would be a factor in the chance of KO, but it may have effected the comfort level of Pac, which is somewhat valid.

Not that I think that the outcome of the fight would change, but its still nice to fight with your gloves.

I doubt a rematch morales being a **** ass made pac man feel stupid at times i bet.

You can't give the fault to the gloves you wearing. You have to give credit to Morales, he got a good chin, never went down in his career. Pacquiao should have fought more agressively and put Morales more under pressure.

well, in the interview with Roach after the fight, he mentioned that Murad made a real big mistake. that is by signing the contract that stipulates a more pudded gloves will be used. he said that they allowed themm to use a pillow like gloves. and worst team Pacquiao was informed too late that Pac didnt had enough time to feel the gloves.

in my oppinion, the gloves wont make much difference. but fighters should be given enough time to get familiarized with it because it may affect a fighter's comfort. but as far as PAc-EM fight is concern, i saw that regardless of the gloves problem, Pac failed to show a lot of things that were essential to the fight particularly agressiveness.

WTF, gloves does not matter for the best P4P fighter...

VIVA MEXICO, VIVA ERIK NUMERO UNO P4P !!!


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well, in the interview with Roach after the fight, he mentioned that Murad made a real big mistake. that is by signing the contract .

You got that right! pac should never have taken this fight, he was beaten!

You can't give the fault to the gloves you wearing. You have to give credit to Morales, he got a good chin, never went down in his career. Pacquiao should have fought more agressively and put Morales more under pressure.

I agree, I didn't see the fight but from what I read Morales just outboxed Manny.

Hell yeah he outboxed him. :firedevil

I doubt it was the gloves what caused the problems, I think it was the socks Pacquiao had on what caused the problem.

**** the gloves if they used reyes gloves with the shots morales hit pac with manny would have got ktfo!!

From what I hear, even though I didn't see the fight, the cut above Manny's eye was baaaad. If that's true, can you imagine if they had Reye's gloves? His face would have looked like Vitali's after he went through the L.L. Meat Grinder..

Barrera manage to beat Morales despite using those Japaneese gloves he did not want! Barrera's gloves are the Reyes too! :boxing:

There was a left hook right after the headbutt that I thought caused the cut.The headbutt connected in the middle of the forehead.The left hook connected right above the eye right after the headbutt.But I could be wrong about it ;)

It's true that the gloves lost the fight for PacMan.

Morales' gloves that is. Erik's gloves wouldn't stop hitting Pac in the face all night long.

Now that is a glove problem.

100% agree. Morales` gloves were the problem. They kept smacking Pc in the face. Maybe if theres a rematch they could make some sort of rule to stop this from happening!

If I'm not mistaken wasn't it Marco Antonio Barrera who wanted those Japanese gloves, and they were too small for Morales' hands so he had to cut them a little bit?

I doubt a rematch morales being a **** ass made pac man feel stupid at times i bet.

Though he won convincingly, the fight was still exciting and close. I'm almost sure there will be a rematch.

In a fight as close as this, IMO, you need to win at least twice against your opponent. MAB has accomplished that against EM. In that scenario, the trilogy may have been over and can make EM feel stupid if MAB refuses a rematch.

i'm sorry but i still think Morales's journey isn't complete yet. I'd like to see him become a **** ass against a bigger P4P fighter while moving up in weight, not against a blown-up 122-pounder. Castillo and Corrales come to mind.

In the remach 'm sure they'll use Reyes gloves but really, Pac just needs to be more aggressive to win. He seemed a little to laid back from what I read tonight. Good fight though, huh?

Yep. Tentative and a bit sluggish. He seemed heavy. Morales was getting off before him. But it was a heack of a fight no matter what.

It isn't really so much about power or padding. It is about using the gloves that you are most comfortable with. I don't think it would be a factor in the chance of KO, but it may have effected the comfort level of Pac, which is somewhat valid.

Not that I think that the outcome of the fight would change, but its still nice to fight with your gloves.


Agree with you on that bro. The only thing I cannot understand is why Erik wants his opponent to wear the same gloves.

If Erik loves this gloves why he insists that his opponents wear the same. I bet he knows something about wearing them that gives him an edge but would trouble his opponent.

I could be wrong but then again why he insists that his opponent wear this Winning if all gloves are the same?

If I'm not mistaken wasn't it Marco Antonio Barrera who wanted those Japanese gloves, and they were too small for Morales' hands so he had to cut them a little bit?


You had it reversed. Morales wanted the japanese gloves. He forced MAB to use it coz he was the champ before that 3rd fight.

Who ever believes that the gloves do not matter in a fight is mistaken. I said it in another thread but with one glove you could take a good shot and be dazed from it. With another glove you could be dazed and confused. There is definately a difference between brands of gloves.

The reason that morales wants his opponents to wear the same gloves is simple, both men should have the same tools to work with. if morales wore the japenese gloves and pac wore the reyes gloves then pac would then gain an advantage...............Rockin'

Who ever believes that the gloves do not matter in a fight is mistaken. I said it in another thread but with one glove you could take a good shot and be dazed from it. With another glove you could be dazed and confused. There is definately a difference between brands of gloves.

The reason that morales wants his opponents to wear the same gloves is simple, both men should have the same tools to work with. if morales wore the japenese gloves and pac wore the reyes gloves then pac would then gain an advantage...............Rockin'

But I think last night, the bigger problem was Manny's weight.

But I think last night, the bigger problem was Manny's weight.


Last time Pac fought MAB. He weighed in at 124 and only 128 on fight time. Pac was 137 at JMM's fight time. Then now with Erik its 139.

Maybe a bigger weight is a handicap.

Last time Pac fought MAB. He weighed in at 124 and only 128 on fight time. Pac was 137 at JMM's fight time. Then now with Erik its 139.

Maybe a bigger weight is a handicap.

I don't know how he blew up that much. I thought the plan was coming in at 136 and weighing in at 127.

I dont know about the weight discrepancies, I did not see the fight or really hear that much about the weights.. All that I was stating was that there are big fifferences between different brands of gloves. Earlier in the thread there were those who claimed that the gloves do not make a difference at all. Thanks for the insight though on the weight issue........Rockin'

Though he won convincingly, the fight was still exciting and close ..... In a fight as close as this, IMO, you need to win at least twice against your opponent ....
I didn't see this fight being as "close" as the judges, or many of the Pac apologists. I think we saw Pac's best on Saturday against Morales' best and the rematch would look very much the same. Pac would again need to come out fast, as everyone predicted he would, and Erik would get caught or go down, as everybody thought he might, but then we'd see Erik adjust and take it the distance while boxing Pac's ass off.

In the rematch, Erik would simply need to box a bit more to practically gaurantee the win.

Dead all the glove talk
Pac got outboxed and the fight was not close
I dont understand y some people see it close ....thats bull****
pac won 3 rounds at the most.....
Both are great fighters and they gave a hell of a performance that night...
so all of u that cant accept the loss as a fair one....get over it.

i dont know what the big deal is about the gloves. if reyes gloves made you punch harder, then dont you think every boxer would use them. roach needs to stop making excuses and admit that he underestimated erik.

WTF, gloves does not matter for the best P4P fighter...

VIVA MEXICO, VIVA ERIK NUMERO UNO P4P !!!

I realize that you are a huge pacfan. But does beating him make you the automatic #1 P4P fighter? Pac is bad-ass, yes. but how come you did not rank Morales higher before he beat Manny.

It was an easy fight to call. Skill levels are different,
Manny is a 1 dimmensional warrior. When facing a good counterpuncher, he is french toast.

No offense but this warrior talk is getting a bit corny
and its mostly comin from the Pac fans
Im not hatin cuz i love both fighters and we all know theyre both warriors but by continuing to call them that just makes some of u guys look sad
just chill and appreciate the fight
peace

i really can't believe there is a post about gloves. manny was beat by a bigger, more experienced and more technically sound fighter with an iron chin. that's it. with the type of war they had it doesn't matter what gloves you have. trust me...i've used (and been hit with) all kinds...and they all hurt...lol

It's true that the gloves lost the fight for PacMan.

Morales' gloves that is. Erik's gloves wouldn't stop hitting Pac in the face all night long.

Now that is a glove problem.

hahaha that is great stuff. i agree. morales took pac out of his game. and when pak tried to get it back and saw that he couldn't hurt morales and got hit in the process it broke him down. i give pac all hte respect in the world and i can gladly say that we will be seeing plenty more of him.