Morales did what everyone said he couldnt do.......beat a younger faster/stronger fighter in pac...........most people had pac in the top 5 in p4p........so where is morales now?

top2 between him and barrera and in a 4th fight i got morales any takers if barrera accepts.

He should have never been dropped from top 5.

Somtimes theres just someone who has ur number, Morales has only lost to MAB, and so far he's beaten both fighters that beat MAB. And he beat them well.

I think that Pac only drops to just below morales, not far back at all.

i really dont know, but i need a fight re-match quickly this year maybe against JMM or MAB, but Erik has the pick of the liter, so we all wait on EM next move...

p4p is very interesting and debatable with Pac's beatdown of MAB and Pac's loss to EM, coupled with EM's loss to MAB. We'll see...personally I put EM in the top 5 but Pac just ahead of MAB in the top 10. I think if EM had been in the shape he was tonight for MAB he would hav won.

for EM IMHO his the best P4P Fighter so move over HOPS...

I don't think you can really get rid of Hops or PBF until they lose or look very bad vs a pedestrian opponent. Morales I would put at 4 or 5.

1) Hopkins
1a) Mayweather
3) Tszyu
4) Wright
4a) Morales

HERES MY P4p

1a.MAyweather
1b.Hopkins
2.morales
3.tsyzu
4.winky
5.castillo
6.pac/barrera
8.corrales
9.trinidad
10.judah/rafael marquez/juan marquez

i have trinidad higher than most poeple because i feel that he could beat anyone not named hopkins

HERES MY P4p

1a.MAyweather
1b.Hopkins
2.morales
3.tsyzu
4.winky
5.castillo
6.pac/barrera
8.corrales
9.trinidad
10.judah/rafael marquez/juan marquez
I'm glad people are thinking of Trinidad, I see most people have Morales at #3 now, seems good, Barrera on list, seems good, Pac on list, seems good, what gets to me is these names on peoples lists: Castillo, Rafael Marquez, Juan Marquez, Glen Johnson, I know we can find other fighters worthly of being on the list like James Toney Ect. Ect.

Are you serious with that James Toney stuff? No way. He didn't look as good as he should have vs sloppy Rydell Booker and has to prove himself vs someone other than a 90 yr ol heavyweight or a guy that doesn't even belong in the rng with him.

Castillo on the other hand, beat Lazcano, Casamayor, and Diaz, and has a long history of beating top tier opponents, including Mayweather cuz everyone knows he won the 1st fight.

Glen Johnson I can understand, but it's not unreasonable to put him at the very bottom of the list.

Rafael Marquez absolutely 100% deserves to be on it and only gets overlooked because he is in such a small weight class. Made two awesome fighters his *****es in Tim Austin and Mark Johnson.

Juan Manuel Marquez proved his skills with his adjustments against Pac after enduring an all out blitz in the 1st round. JMM is one of the most avoided fighters out there, but me personally, I don't like him, but it's not unreasonable to have him on the list.

Tito has had one fight in 2 yrs vs a guy coming up 2 weight classes to fight him, and a face 1st guy at that. Please.

I would put Morales only behind Mayweather and could be argued the other way. But Mayweather has beat all his opponents and the only one he lost to (castillo imo) he rematched and beat.

I dont know what chavez has done because hes before my time but after seeing this to me morales is the best fighter to ever come from mexico has power stamina chin balls and backs up everything he says.

Are you serious with that James Toney stuff? Yes, he did the Ultimate in moving up to Heaveyweight, with a great record, he is the defintion of a Pound for Pound fighter.

Castillo on the other hand beat....
Hmmm Casamayor was robbed, he dominated Castillo


Rafael Marquez absolutely 100% deserves to be on it and only.
We can put in every Mexican fighter for popularity, but truth is, hes not a P4P'er.

Juan Manuel Marquez proved his skills with his adjustments against Pac
One great fight, coming out with a draw, doesnt put you on a much respected P4P list

Are you serious with that James Toney stuff? Yes, he did the Ultimate in moving up to Heaveyweight, with a great record, he is the defintion of a Pound for Pound fighter.

Castillo on the other hand beat....
Hmmm Casamayor was robbed, he dominated Castillo


Rafael Marquez absolutely 100% deserves to be on it and only.
We can put in every Mexican fighter for popularity, but truth is, hes not a P4P'er.

Juan Manuel Marquez proved his skills with his adjustments against Pac
One great fight, coming out with a draw, doesnt put you on a much respected P4P list
have you ever seen these guys fight? it sounds like you havent and is bitter at the mexicans being called P4P

have you ever seen these guys fight? it sounds like you havent and is bitter at the mexicans being called P4P
Extremely bitter, I havent even touched on Oscar Larios being on the P4P lists, did I leave anybody esle? Thats 6 Mexicans out of ten P4P'ers.

Extremely bitter, I havent even touched on Oscar Larios being on the P4P lists, did I leave anybody esle? Thats 6 Mexicans out of ten P4P'ers.
what can i say, this is our era for boxing :D

I think that Pac only drops to just below morales, not far back at all.

Totally agree 100%!!!! ;)

castillo needs to be on the list...........hes going to fight corrales.......hes faught some of the best people in boxing

1.Erik Morales(one real losss on resume-Barrera 3)
2.Bernard Hopkins(should finally test upper divisions)
3.F.Trinidad(has beaten everyone except Oscar and Hopkins)
4.V.Klitschko(underated and nobodies gonna beat him anytime soon)
5.M.A.Barrera(gift dec. vs Morales on 2nd fight)
6.J.M.Marquez(got robbed vs Pac)
7.Rafael Marquez(no respect,Very underated)
8.F.Mayweather(lost to Castillo on 1st fight and needs more good wins)
9.Manny Pac(has only one great win, Barrera)
10.J.L.Castillo(only seems to get better as he gets older)

Morales is the best

Hey! You say that Barrera got a gift in the 2nd Morales fight. Well, How about the first decision that Morales got? I really think that Barrera won that first fight.

Morales did what everyone said he couldnt do.......beat a younger faster/stronger fighter in pac...........most people had pac in the top 5 in p4p........so where is morales now?
Number 4? just one notch above pac at number 5 :D

Morales beat Barrera in the first fight also

1.Erik Morales(one real losss on resume-Barrera 3)
2.Bernard Hopkins(should finally test upper divisions)
3.F.Trinidad(has beaten everyone except Oscar and Hopkins)
4.V.Klitschko(underated and nobodies gonna beat him anytime soon)
5.M.A.Barrera(gift dec. vs Morales on 2nd fight)
6.J.M.Marquez(got robbed vs Pac)
7.Rafael Marquez(no respect,Very underated)
8.F.Mayweather(lost to Castillo on 1st fight and needs more good wins)
9.Manny Pac(has only one great win, Barrera)
10.J.L.Castillo(only seems to get better as he gets older)

Morales is the best

No KT in your top 10? :confused:

I dont know what chavez has done because hes before my time but after seeing this to me morales is the best fighter to ever come from mexico has power stamina chin balls and backs up everything he says.
No way man Morales has done alot but not quite, download some early to mid 80's Chavez up until he fought Whitaker, yes he fought alot of guys who weren't to highly regarded but he also fought some very good fighters and schooled them. If Morales can put up a couple more wins like this though i think u may have a point.

Oh and i think Morales should be around 2nd in the #4# just because i think Mayweather can step up his competition and Zoo hasn't been active enough, but if he whoops on Hatton that'll change.

No way man Morales has done alot but not quite, download some early to mid 80's Chavez up until he fought Whitaker, yes he fought alot of guys who weren't to highly regarded but he also fought some very good fighters and schooled them. If Morales can put up a couple more wins like this though i think u may have a point.

Oh and i think Morales should be around 2nd in the #4# just because i think Mayweather can step up his competition and Zoo hasn't been active enough, but if he whoops on Hatton that'll change.


sorry what i ment is hes pretty much on his way to becoming a mexican legend the ways hes been going and the way he cares about his fans, thats all you need hell keep fighting big fights and is still young so and as long as he keeps working hard he can do it.

Morales still has a lot of buritos to eat to ever approximate the greatness of JCC.

i never seen a fighter fight back to back to back to back good opponents.

i never seen a fighter fight back to back to back to back good opponents.
thats true though i dont think there are many fighters who have fought series of fights like Morales.

we will all find out as long as he does this though what hes been doing i got his back to the fullest win or lose. aint no ***** from him.

i never seen a fighter fight back to back to back to back good opponents.
There you go again... keeping your eyes glued to Morales lol

ill be over it by tomarrow **** i waited for this fight for a while.