115-113 on all 3 judges. So I hear

re-match!!!

re-match!!!

it wasnt even close man,
Paquiao needs to give barrera a fight now

Pac put on a great show, but Erik was the better man. Now Pac has something to prove against all three top Mexicans! He's got unfinished business with Morales and Marquez, plus, it now looks like there could be some truth to Barrera's "excuses".

I like a Pac-Morales rematch, but not right away. I want to see Pac Marquez first, then either Erik, or preferably Barrera.

Morales has proved it, he can now move up in weight..and do his thing, i dont think he has anything to prove at 130.
as for pacqiao he has to hang around and beat barrera again (which i dont see happening, barrera will come out the winner if they fight again)...and fight marquez and knock him...out

Hats of to Morales, very few people believed in him and i am one of the very few.

rematch? you're crazy. we now know manny can't hurt morales with his big left and we also know eric is the superior boxer. can anyone say "one dimensional".

What a great fight....I had it 116-112 but a win is a win. Manny did put on a good show but morales showed how one dimensional manny is.

i really didnt believe Morales was gonna slug it out with him :eek:

re-match!!!
he doesnt deserve a rematch with how he looked tonight. he will have to beat barerra or marquez and then chase morales to 135.

Woohoo **** yeah!!! GO MORALES!!!!

Actually, I just finished watching the fight and it was pretty close though I do give Morales the fight. There were rounds where PAC did exchange more even though having a less hit %.

After round four PAC looked real sluggish and for some reason after doing a few combinations would stop moving forward...WHICH WAS THE PLAN! He let Morales continue with his plan to control the pace of the fight. I was real upset. But I do give props for PAC moving up and taking a hard dangerous fight. During the breaks he looked as if he was ready to pass out and would cough.

But then there were a lot of moments where MORALES looked dead tired and his arms were heavy...PAC should have exposed that.

Hmmm...REMATCH? Sure...but not for a bit. He needs to take another two or so fights in that weight class or even the one below to feel a bit more comfortable. Still young so hopefully he'll be around for a few more years giving us good fights and not act like a baby like AMED or whatshisface...

Pac was dominated....he needs to fight MAB and win for a rematch to happen.

I had it 116-112 for Morales. Both men put up great fights but Morales showed that he was just better than Pacquiao.

What a Great Fight. :boxing:

i almost had a heart attack on the 12th round, what was Morales thinking going southpaw

WOW! What a spectacular fight! I scored it 115-113 for Morales, but Pac has NOTHING to be ashamed of..he fought like a champion, but Erik was simply the better boxer and had redemption in mind. Not that it matters, but I scored it like this:
Morales: 2,3,4,5,7,8 & 11
Manny: 1,6,9,10 & 12
Both guys put up one hell of a fight, and both looked very impressive. Excellent fight and more than worth the ppv fee..especially with the Arce vs. Hussein on the card too, which was also an awesome fight!

i didnt get the arce-hussein fight, migth cable went out

i almost had a heart attack on the 12th round, what was Morales thinking going southpaw

I think Morales just wanted to prove that Pacquiao couldn't knock him out.

Pac was dominated....he needs to fight MAB and win for a rematch to happen.
Agreed. Pac now has a loss and draw gainst two of the three top Mexican Feathers. Lossing to Morales suggests that Barrera's "excuses" might have some merit.

So, I'm with you CHUPS, let's see Pac revisit his only win aginst a top-tier Feather.

I think Morales just wanted to prove that Pacquiao couldn't knock him out.
I agree...morales has a chin made of granite

I think Morales just wanted to prove that Pacquiao couldn't knock him out.
and he proved it, mad luv for Morales :luvbed:

WOW! What a spectacular fight! I scored it 115-113 for Morales, but Pac has NOTHING to be ashamed of..he fought like a champion, but Erik was simply the better boxer and had redemption in mind. Not that it matters, but I scored it like this:
Morales: 2,3,4,5,7,8 & 11
Manny: 1,6,9,10 & 12
Both guys put up one hell of a fight, and both looked very impressive. Excellent fight and more than worth the ppv fee..especially with the Arce vs. Hussein on the card too, which was also an awesome fight!
haven't seen it yet, just saw the play by play. Paying you up on it now though.... sounds like it was an excellent fight.

and he proved it, mad luv for Morales :luvbed:

He more than proved it by eating big shots all night long and returning fire.

I had it 116-112 for Morales. Both men put up great fights but Morales showed that he was just better than Pacquiao.
I had the same score card.

Morales fought the perfect fight against Pac-man, but your hat must go to both fighters. If i was Pac-man i would stay away from Morales right now and get MAB and Marquez 1st

WOW! What a spectacular fight! I scored it 115-113 for Morales, but Pac has NOTHING to be ashamed of..he fought like a champion, but Erik was simply the better boxer and had redemption in mind. Not that it matters, but I scored it like this:
Morales: 2,3,4,5,7,8 & 11
Manny: 1,6,9,10 & 12
Both guys put up one hell of a fight, and both looked very impressive. Excellent fight and more than worth the ppv fee..especially with the Arce vs. Hussein on the card too, which was also an awesome fight!


i am sure PAC is not ashamed of anything, as all of us pacfans, Erik may have prove his the better figther tonite, but PAC prove again that he belongs to this elite group of figthers...

i still call a re-match, maybe not with EM right away, i like him to go back and settle his business with JMM, but i think MAB sound like a best option (REDEMPTION!!!) ...

i didnt have a scorecard my cable went out, i was mad as hell but it camed back in round 5, but i missed the arce and jcc jr fight :(

he doesnt deserve a rematch with how he looked tonight. he will have to beat barerra or marquez and then chase morales to 135.

totally agree. first it was the socks and hands with jmm now they are trying to blame it on the gloves. when does it stop? jmm will destroy him im a rematch. morales dominates again. and as for barrera who is my fav i don't know. maybe he did have a bad night. all i have to say is viva mexico and thank you erik!

i am sure PAC is not ashamed of anything, as all of us pacfans, Erik may have prove his the better figther tonite, but PAC prove again that he belongs to this elite group of figthers...

i still call a re-match, maybe not with EM right away, i like him to go back and settle his business with JMM, but i think MAB sound like a best option (REDEMPTION!!!) ...
dont forget our sig bet jomapac :D

by the way my mexican bros, can you spare me some change, i guess i am broke, he he he ...

400M down the drain ...

haven't seen it yet, just saw the play by play. Paying you up on it now though.... sounds like it was an excellent fight.

Oh that it was Kepsy..and like I said, Manny did a great job too, but Erik's skills were just more than he could deal with...I think it surprised him when he couldnt knock Erik out! His face looks very rough too, but both boys will be sore come morning for sure. Nothing but respect and love for Morales for redeeming himself, and I have twice the respect for Manny than I did before for hanging in there and giving Erik a good, tough fight..as long as he doesnt start up with a bunch of excuses, I like manny much more than before!
I said days ago that if I was right about Erik winning that I would be one of the few that didnt rub it in, put Manny down or say I told you so, and I intend to keep my word on that by admitting that Manny made the whole affair that much more exciting!! ;)
Oooh, I just realized, Palma owe me pt's!!! :D

I know no one wants to say it, how about any PROPS for the smaller PAC taking some real deal lugs from MORALES?

I agree...morales has a chin made of granite

I know no one wants to say it, how about any PROPS for the smaller PAC taking some real deal lugs from MORALES?

Hey, I thought I had been more than fair in my praise for Manny's performance :confused:

I know no one wants to say it, how about any PROPS for the smaller PAC taking some real deal lugs from MORALES?
He took some big shots as well no doubt, but manny is def. the bigger puncher and the "knockout artist"

your right tracylee its psalm sunday today, its start of the Holy Week, its the week most of us pinoy do pennance, i think PAC carried our cross for us pinoys today ...

and there is always EASTER and a next time to wait and celebrate for ...

FIGHT OF THE YEAR!!!

I salute both Erik and Manny for being true warriors and giving all they got!

Better luck next time, Pinoy bros. Manny's still young and he has all the time in the world to go back to drawing boards and come back with a vengeance!

It was true that Morales was on his way down.

That's why this victory IMO is the best win in Morales career. He beat a Primed and ready Manny and still did enough to get the decision, showing heart and courage as well as Manny.

Both men fought their asses off, congrats to both men.

Please stop saying Pac was dominated. He was not. Erik was the better man, tnight, but that doesn't mean in a rematch Pac wouldn't be more aggressive and win. It is conceivable.

Congrats to Erik and Pac for giving us a good fight.

Please stop saying Pac was dominated. He was not. Erik was the better man, tnight, but that doesn't mean in a rematch Pac wouldn't be more aggressive and win. It is conceivable.

Congrats to Erik and Pac for giving us a good fight.

I wouldn't say he was dominated but Pacquiao was controlled throughout most of the fight.

i didnt get the arce-hussein fight, migth cable went out

thats a shame J...it was a damn good brawl, after what looked like an "almost" first round stoppage! :eek:

thats a shame J...it was a damn good brawl, after what looked like an "almost" first round stoppage! :eek:
i felt like killing someone cuz i know they dont refund PPVs

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20050320/capt.nvab12203200603.pacquiao_morales_nvab122.jpg

your right tracylee its psalm sunday today, its start of the Holy Week, its the week most of us pinoy do pennance, i think PAC carried our cross for us pinoys today ...

and there is always EASTER and a next time to wait and celebrate for ...

Hey, celebrate the performance he put on, and he showed a toughness that I didnt know he possessed! His chin, I thought, was questionable..well, not anymore. He took and gave some serious shots buddy! :eek:

i felt like killing someone cuz i know they dont refund PPVs

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20050320/capt.nvab12203200603.pacquiao_morales_nvab122.jpg

Well, I can send you a copy, if it will keep you from committing murder! If you want me to, just private mess. me your address, and I'll get you a copy in the mail Mon. As for now, I'm out boys, but will definately be back in the morn. to debate this some more!! :D

how much does a ppv fight cost? can anyone help me out with all this HBO and PPV **** cuz i dont get it thanks a lot!

Hey, celebrate the performance he put on, and he showed a toughness that I didnt know he possessed! His chin, I thought, was questionable..well, not anymore. He took and gave some serious shots buddy! :eek:

after the JMM fight, i dont doubt his chin, he was koed 2 times before, but by body shots...

FR worked on PACs body to the hilt...

Pac not only lost
he was toyed with all nite
the only reason the fight was even "close" which i dont think it was
was becuz erik let it be close
he gave manny chances
danngled oppurtunity in his face
and then pumulled him
manny is done
rematch with marquez? not now
hed just get beat even worse
rematch the barrera
maybe just so he can atleast say he has MABs number
which i dont think he does
BOTTOM LINE
Erik completely played with manny all nite
the 12th round leaves shows it all
his punch aint as big as he thinks
Erik said ill give ya your own fight and ill be southpaw
pack rained lefts and hurt him
but again like with marquez
wasnt able to close the show

yeah morales made this whole fight what he wanted it to be he did it for the fans dude.

Pac not only lost
he was toyed with all nite
the only reason the fight was even "close" which i dont think it was
was becuz erik let it be close
he gave manny chances
danngled oppurtunity in his face
and then pumulled him
manny is done
rematch with marquez? not now
hed just get beat even worse
rematch the barrera
maybe just so he can atleast say he has MABs number
which i dont think he does
BOTTOM LINE
Erik completely played with manny all nite
the 12th round leaves shows it all
his punch aint as big as he thinks
Erik said ill give ya your own fight and ill be southpaw
pack rained lefts and hurt him
but again like with marquez
wasnt able to close the show


Props to Morales. He's a future Hall of Famer.
But to say Pac is done is like saying Erik's done when he lost to MAB, and MAB was done when he lost to Pac, and Trinidad was done when he lost to hopkins.

Just because you lose to a great fighter doesn't mean you're done at all.

I think its plain dumb.

yeah pacman is still a force man that fool is a beast.

yeah pacman is still a force man that fool is a beast.

You can't count any good fighter.

MAB may toy with Pacman in a rematch or whatever.

I just want to see these future greats in more matches. They are the ones that keep boxing alive.

To hell with Ruiz and Byrd. They make boxing look bad. I might as well add JMM too. It takes only a Manny Pacquiao to bring out an exciting JMM. Otherwise, he's just one those killing the sport.

byrd is a warrior fighting big ass monsters.


i dont understand i cant count any good fighter?

pacs a good fighter just not a good boxer

byrd is a warrior fighting big ass monsters.


i dont understand i cant count any good fighter?

pacs a good fighter just not a good boxer

I think it's just my personal opinion about Byrd. I dunno why I never like the guy. I guess it's because he wants to make an opponent look foolish, while dishing out slaps.

As for JMM, I just wish he could perform better. I hate to see a guy with a skill as good as his underperforming.

At least with Manny's limited arsenal, he throws the entire kitchen sink.

Morales fought the perfect fight against Pac-man, but your hat must go to both fighters. If i was Pac-man i would stay away from Morales right now and get MAB and Marquez 1st

Pacquiao fights anyone anywhere, did you hear when merchant asked him,"do you want a rematch?, yes, anytime , anywhere.

To hell with Ruiz and Byrd. They make boxing look bad. I might as well add JMM too. It takes only a Manny Pacquiao to bring out an exciting JMM. Otherwise, he's just one those killing the sport.
u mean an idiot that just walks forward and jumps into perfect counters?

iw asnt basen pac being done souly on this fight
on the JMM fight
this fight was just like that minus the 3kds
plus this was only as close as it was cuz erik let it be

pacman cant handle a rematch the out come will be the same hes got money fights at 126 i think fighting marquez.

u mean an idiot that just walks forward and jumps into perfect counters?

Yes, an idiot that almost killed a supposedly technically superior JMM and Barrera.

definitely much better than a 100% boxer (JMM for instance) who only gives 1% of his effort every time. I'd rather go with a supposedly idiot who's got 10% skill but who gives 110% everytime.

props to both fighters.

iw asnt basen pac being done souly on this fight
on the JMM fight
this fight was just like that minus the 3kds
plus this was only as close as it was cuz erik let it be

Now there goes a nuthugger being too presumptuous!!! :D

WOW! What a spectacular fight! I scored it 115-113 for Morales, but Pac has NOTHING to be ashamed of..he fought like a champion, but Erik was simply the better boxer and had redemption in mind. Not that it matters, but I scored it like this:
Morales: 2,3,4,5,7,8 & 11
Manny: 1,6,9,10 & 12
Both guys put up one hell of a fight, and both looked very impressive. Excellent fight and more than worth the ppv fee..especially with the Arce vs. Hussein on the card too, which was also an awesome fight!

Thats excatly how I had it. Losing by 1 round is a pretty clear sign that Manny could beat Morales on another night. The problem is that both guys have such rabbid fan bases that they say and do things that are really really stupid. Some people here are saying Morales dominated the fight and that it wasn't even close. Excuse me? How is winning by 1 round a domination? Yes, Morales had his hand raised at the end of the night but how is winning by one round on all 3 cards a domination?

I would like to see a re-match, but enough with the weight class jumping. All 3 of them need to stay put for awhile. Fight some other guys and give things a chance to become fresh for the fans. Then lets see them go at it again. I would love that.

erik had the fight in his hand all night he pleased the fans.

Oh yea!!! Pay up!

Who's next for Morales and for Pacman?

Congrats To Erik Morales And Mexico!!

Congrats Also To Pacman For Being A True Warrior!!

Manny Will Be Back!!!

i didnt get the arce-hussein fight, migth cable went out

Really? Damn , you miss it dude. Many people will nominate it for fight of the year. All rounds of that fight will be nominated for round of the year!!! You know what i'm sayin'?

Told Ya So!!!!!!!

HIGH ALTITUDE TRAINING. Manny has to spend real time on the boondocks. He got to pay his dues for proper stamina.

Now he must take out Marquez first before thinking of Barerra. But Pacman has got to get that high altitude training. EM had it and JMM had it too. I guess Pacman was lucky sort of coz he had a longer training when he fought EM. JMM was on the mountain for a longer time than Erik, he was expecting to clash with Pac. But Pac was having good time during that period.

Arce Vs. Hussain was a greate fight. I absolutely loved it. The fight after it proved that Pacquiao just didnt have what it took. Morales beat him, Morales boxed him every round. Was it just me, or did Morales look bigger than he had ever looked.
As far as Barrera and Pacquiao, that was a lucky win for pacquiao. Barrera didnt even look like he trained hard. He half-assed it.
Morales will move up in weight, while pacman will loose to people he fought before. Marquez would beat him now, Barrera would destroy him. I like Pacquiao, but he isn't a match for any real boxer
I look forward to seeing Morales fight at 135.

Told Ya So!!!!!!!

I told you so...I told you that...ho hum....

People who are saying that the fight wasn't close need to get their eyes checked. I had it 2 points for Morales, he picked off Pac from the distance and controlled the pace. Manny was boxing into Morales' game. Props to both fighters. Now I wanna see Castillo-Morales and the Pac JMM-MAB rematches. But I think Manny needs to go down to 126. He didn't look as fast at 130.

People who are saying that the fight wasn't close need to get their eyes checked. I had it 2 points for Morales, he picked off Pac from the distance and controlled the pace. Manny was boxing into Morales' game. Props to both fighters. Now I wanna see Castillo-Morales and the Pac JMM-MAB rematches. But I think Manny needs to go down to 126. He didn't look as fast at 130.


The only fantastic achievement of Morales in that fight was he kept his ass from touching the canvass.

The only fault of Pacman in that fight was he didn't make Erik sit on his ass.

I still say Pacman must focus on boxing and conditioning. He must pay his dues. He can't be an actor, pool player, politician and boxer at the same time. He should stay in the US more for better preparation and conditioning. Boxing is paying him a lot of money aside from making him a legend. He can't get that from being an actor or a pool player or a ****fighter. I'm sure he wont steal money if he's a politician.

So do it like Erik, Juan & Marco. Focus on boxing alone. This defeat should teach him something like what Erik learned from his.

erik had the fight in his hand all night he pleased the fans.
especialy with that 12th round, what was he thinking? Had he not givin that 12th round away it would have been a blow out, Props to Manny for going 12 and Morales for showing that MAB cant hold him down

Arce Vs. Hussain was a greate fight. I absolutely loved it. The fight after it proved that Pacquiao just didnt have what it took. Morales beat him, Morales boxed him every round. Was it just me, or did Morales look bigger than he had ever looked.
As far as Barrera and Pacquiao, that was a lucky win for pacquiao. Barrera didnt even look like he trained hard. He half-assed it.
Morales will move up in weight, while pacman will loose to people he fought before. Marquez would beat him now, Barrera would destroy him. I like Pacquiao, but he isn't a match for any real boxer
I look forward to seeing Morales fight at 135.


I think styles make fights.. I say Pac beat Barrera every time. Barrera has always had problems with guys who have straight punch power .. Junior Jones and Pac come to mind..

The only fantastic achievement of Morales in that fight was he kept his ass from touching the canvass.

The only fault of Pacman in that fight was he didn't make Erik sit on his ass.

I still say Pacman must focus on boxing and conditioning. He must pay his dues. He can't be an actor, pool player, politician and boxer at the same time. He should stay in the US more for better preparation and conditioning. Boxing is paying him a lot of money aside from making him a legend. He can't get that from being an actor or a pool player or a ****fighter. I'm sure he wont steal money if he's a politician.

So do it like Erik, Juan & Marco. Focus on boxing alone. This defeat should teach him something like what Erik learned from his.


Wtf is wrong with you. Your saying this should teach him a lesson and you faulting Manny for not producing a KD. You shouldn't blame Manny for nothing. The kid showed heart, trained hard, gave it his all and that should be enough for his fans.

I still say Pacman must focus on boxing and conditioning. He must pay his dues. He can't be an actor, pool player, politician and boxer at the same time. He should stay in the US more for better preparation and conditioning. Boxing is paying him a lot of money aside from making him a legend. He can't get that from being an actor or a pool player or a ****fighter. I'm sure he wont steal money if he's a politician.

So do it like Erik, Juan & Marco. Focus on boxing alone. This defeat should teach him something like what Erik learned from his.
Precisely. If he had the boxing skills of any of these three, he'd pretty much be unstoppable. But like all big punchers, in any weight class, they fall in love with their power and start neglecting the science itself in favor of quick, easy wins.

I thought Pacman was going to win simply because I thought he would catch Morales with a Knockout blow and that would be it. Teddy Atlas made a good point on Friday Night Fights he said Morales has a very good chin I guess he was right.

I thought Pacman was going to win simply because I thought he would catch Morales with a Knockout blow and that would be it. Teddy Atlas made a good point on Friday Night Fights he said Morales has a very good chin I guess he was right.

You don't need Teddy Atlas to tell you that. And I though Pac was going to win cuz of his speed advantage which he didn't have much of.

You don't need Teddy Atlas to tell you that. And I though Pac was going to win cuz of his speed advantage which he didn't have much of.
he did look slower, but they both came in @ 139-140 lbs, What was Erik thinking that 12th round? :boxing:

he did look slower, but they both came in @ 139-140 lbs, What was Erik thinking that 12th round? :boxing:

I have no idea why he would come in that heavy. He was almost as heavy as Morales!
I dunno man lol but I was on the edge of my seat in that 12th. Whether Erik did it on purpose or not, it excited the **** out of everyone :D

Amazing fight! Props go out to the Morales followers. Your man can FIGHT! Pac Man showed great heart out there especially in the last round. Best round I have ever seen. I hope for a rematch. The winner of Pac vs. Barrera takes on Morales. I do not see any room for Marquez.

he doesnt deserve a rematch with how he looked tonight. he will have to beat barerra or marquez and then chase morales to 135.


Oh please!!! Pac Man deserves a rematch as much as Barrera deserves a rematch with Pac Man.

I have no idea why he would come in that heavy. He was almost as heavy as Morales!
I dunno man lol but I was on the edge of my seat in that 12th. Whether Erik did it on purpose or not, it excited the **** out of everyone :D
I was like that the whole night, every time Erik would circle right I would yell, go left go left !!! what a night of boxing, Arce vs Hussy and Morales vs Manny. Hey did you order the fight at home or go somewhere to see it? If you order from home, do you have dish or cable?

You don't need Teddy Atlas to tell you that. And I though Pac was going to win cuz of his speed advantage which he didn't have much of.

Your right :D

I was like that the whole night, every time Erik would circle right I would yell, go left go left !!! what a night of boxing, Arce vs Hussy and Morales vs Manny. Hey did you order the fight at home or go somewhere to see it? If you order from home, do you have dish or cable?

Nah I went to the bar. Big flip turnout hahaha Every time Manny would flinch we would cheer :D But it was hella fun. The Arce-Hussy fight was a fight out of no where. Totally unexpected.

Nah I went to the bar. Big flip turnout hahaha Every time Manny would flinch we would cheer :D But it was hella fun. The Arce-Hussy fight was a fight out of no where. Totally unexpected.
cool man, bet you had fun, but for any one else who has cable, next time you nevermind I'll make a thread about this later. So Mooks what do you think both Erik and manny should do next?

cool man, bet you had fun, but for any one else who has cable, next time you nevermind I'll make a thread about this later. So Mooks what do you think both Erik and manny should do next?

Manny needs to get back down to 126 PRONTO where he's more of a force and get his speed back. Should take it easy for a few months. I mean **** 3 best mexican warriors in 4 fights? lol I'd be spent :eek: He should be fine though. He's got 2 big rematches and a lot of good fights.

Morales can soundly move up. I smell a mega fight with Castillo and who knows, maybe he's crazy enough to take it right away :eek:

I got to watch it on a pretty good stream, at the very last minute.

I had the fight a draw. Nights like that do the sport a world of good, kind of rekindles your love for it.

I was so worried about Morales in that last round. An awesome close to a great show.

Both fighters are elevated in my opinion.

Hell, yeah!!! Morales won.
Great fight but I dont think this is a fight of the year material. BTW what was FOTY of 2004

Oh that it was Kepsy..and like I said, Manny did a great job too, but Erik's skills were just more than he could deal with...I think it surprised him when he couldnt knock Erik out! His face looks very rough too, but both boys will be sore come morning for sure. Nothing but respect and love for Morales for redeeming himself, and I have twice the respect for Manny than I did before for hanging in there and giving Erik a good, tough fight..as long as he doesnt start up with a bunch of excuses, I like manny much more than before!
I said days ago that if I was right about Erik winning that I would be one of the few that didnt rub it in, put Manny down or say I told you so, and I intend to keep my word on that by admitting that Manny made the whole affair that much more exciting!! ;)
Oooh, I just realized, Palma owe me pt's!!! :D

Congratulations Tracy! you're man was the better fighter. I will pay do not worry.

Cheers to Erik and all the Mexicans out there!

But I also salute Pac for the great fight and for standing till the end and withstanding all Erik had to give.

Now there goes a nuthugger being too presumptuous!!! :D
Thats the truth though, if erik would have boxed him the whole night it would have been one-sided, but we all know he wasn't gonna do that it's just in his blood to go to war when someone taps him.

You ****ing dickhole. You couldn't post "Match results are in!" or something. Way to ruin the results, asshat.

Thats excatly how I had it. Losing by 1 round is a pretty clear sign that Manny could beat Morales on another night. The problem is that both guys have such rabbid fan bases that they say and do things that are really really stupid. Some people here are saying Morales dominated the fight and that it wasn't even close. Excuse me? How is winning by 1 round a domination? Yes, Morales had his hand raised at the end of the night but how is winning by one round on all 3 cards a domination?

I would like to see a re-match, but enough with the weight class jumping. All 3 of them need to stay put for awhile. Fight some other guys and give things a chance to become fresh for the fans. Then lets see them go at it again. I would love that.

No, a win by 2 pts (not one round). Sure, that may make it seem like Manny can beat Erik in a rematch, but youre not taking into consideration that Erik will be fighting more than likely the very same way, and he did look far superior in skills all during the fight. I'm not taking anything away from Pac..far from it if you've seen any of my posts on this issue; he impressed the hell out of me by taking all those punches..which brings to light all the punches that Erik took too...punches that have ko'ed other (lesser?? Yes, meaning Barrera) fighters.
I may not agree with Abdiel on Manny being done, not by a long shot. Losing one fight to a world class, talented as hell fighter does not make a fighter "done"..however, I do agree with him on Erik let that fight be much closer than it should have been by insisting on going toe to toe with Manny more than he had to. He was clearly out to impress the fans, and he did a unbelievable job of that too! Am I complaining? HELL no! He can take it..thats evident. But, if he had wanted to fight smarter and resist that part of him that just loves to slug, the fight wouldnt have been as close as it was, in my opinion. I'd love to see a rematch cause I think Manny deserves it (I'm not hating him for not knocking Morales out..hell, nobody ever has, and with only one man ever beating him, there is NO shame in losing to Erik, especially when you put up the fight he did!) and I think any time those particualr two fighters are put in the ring there is gonna be a great fight!
But I wont hold it against Erik if he decides that a rematch isnt the best thing for him, career wise.
Sorry, didnt mean to write a novel :o

Morales has proved it, he can now move up in weight..and do his thing, i dont think he has anything to prove at 130.
as for pacqiao he has to hang around and beat barrera again (which i dont see happening, barrera will come out the winner if they fight again)...and fight marquez and knock him...out

Hats of to Morales, very few people believed in him and i am one of the very few.

what did he prove?...he beat manny pacquio...morales cant beat the real fighters like corrales any mayweather

The only fantastic achievement of Morales in that fight was he kept his ass from touching the canvass.

The only fault of Pacman in that fight was he didn't make Erik sit on his ass..

Man, how can you completely undermine and downplay everything that Erik did?!? :eek: That was the ONLY fantastic thing he did? Bull****! And do you not realize that that comment is an insult to Manny..not just Erik? If that was ALL he did, then Manny should have beat him on pt's, dont you think? With no knockdowns on either side, if that was ALL that Erik did, then Manny should have had no trouble out scoring him..oh, thats right, Erik outboxed him and THAT'S why he lost!

I got to watch it on a pretty good stream, at the very last minute.

I had the fight a draw. Nights like that do the sport a world of good, kind of rekindles your love for it.

I was so worried about Morales in that last round. An awesome close to a great show.

Both fighters are elevated in my opinion.

A draw? :eek: Uh, you might wanna watch it on a bigger screen next time :D

Congratulations Tracy! you're man was the better fighter. I will pay do not worry.

Not worried..not for a min. But, I've been thinking palma ( and NO, it didnt hurt a bit! :p :D ) when you emailed me about this, you had very few pt's. so I dont wanna take them. I'll settle for the satisfaction of being right, okay?? ;) Others have paid up, so I'm not hurting for pt's

what did he prove?...he beat manny pacquio...morales cant beat the real fighters like corrales any mayweather

Oddly enough, many, many people said that he couldnt beat pac either. I even read that Manny was going to knock his head off, retire him, ko him in less that 2, etc..so I wouldnt bank on him not being able to handle Corrales or anyone else.

Anyone who thinks Morales will beat Corrales is out of it. Same for Mayweather. Gatti weill come in at close to 160 vs Mayweather and still will be a huge underdog. Morales would get thrashed by Corrales or Mayweather. They are both too big, strong, and good for him.

Pound-4-Pound Erik could compete, but straight up as they weigh now, he gets WHACKED.

Thats excatly how I had it. Losing by 1 round is a pretty clear sign that Manny could beat Morales on another night. The problem is that both guys have such rabbid fan bases that they say and do things that are really really stupid. Some people here are saying Morales dominated the fight and that it wasn't even close. Excuse me? How is winning by 1 round a domination? Yes, Morales had his hand raised at the end of the night but how is winning by one round on all 3 cards a domination?

I would like to see a re-match, but enough with the weight class jumping. All 3 of them need to stay put for awhile. Fight some other guys and give things a chance to become fresh for the fans. Then lets see them go at it again. I would love that.


erik won the fight more than by 1 rd. it wasnt THAT close. and even if it was erik literally handed the last rd to him on a plate. i give pac all the credit in the world for showing all that heart but he got schooled. i mean watch it again.. doesnt it look like rocky IV the way he kept going in circles in the ring from the punches?? erik showed us that he is a champion tonight.

what did he prove?...he beat manny pacquio...morales cant beat the real fighters like corrales any mayweather


I was wondering when some douchebag would come along and try to hate on his win...and here you are. Morales could hang with anyone at 130 and 135, and he proved that he could eat leather from one of the quickest, hardest punching fighters in the world. Corrales' slow ass would get his ears boxed off. It's funny that you think PAcquiao isnt a "real" fighter but Corrales is.

Oddly enough, many, many people said that he couldnt beat pac either. I even read that Manny was going to knock his head off, retire him, ko him in less that 2, etc..so I wouldnt bank on him not being able to handle Corrales or anyone else.

Yep, less than 15% of the people HBO polled on their website thought Morales would get a decision win. Over 40% expected a Pacman win by KO. I was one of the 15%, but I want to say this, also:

I don't think Morales would be able to beat Corrales, not after watching Chico fight the last couple of times. He's far smarter in the ring than he was just a couple of years ago.....switching trainers make the differnce, no doubt. I'd actually give him a better chance against Mayweather (Erik, I mean) than Corrales. Mayweather doesn't have nearly Chico's power, and he'd be easier for Erik to reach. Chico has turned into a very dangerous fighter.

Congrats to the winner. EM.

This sounds like an amazing fight and I'm sad I had to miss it. I am glad that I read the play by play and can get the first hand accounts from everyone here though.

I've said it a million times...Morales has THE best chin 135 on down. It also sounds like he could have won by a bit more if he tried a little harder down the stretch. Damn I can't wait for next Sat. :boxing:

This sounds like an amazing fight and I'm sad I had to miss it. I am glad that I read the play by play and can get the first hand accounts from everyone here though.

I've said it a million times...Morales has THE best chin 135 on down. It also sounds like he could have won by a bit more if he tried a little harder down the stretch. Damn I can't wait for next Sat. :boxing:

Is it going to be replayed on Sat?

Yep, less than 15% of the people HBO polled on their website thought Morales would get a decision win. Over 40% expected a Pacman win by KO. I was one of the 15%, but I want to say this, also:

I don't think Morales would be able to beat Corrales, not after watching Chico fight the last couple of times. He's far smarter in the ring than he was just a couple of years ago.....switching trainers make the differnce, no doubt. I'd actually give him a better chance against Mayweather (Erik, I mean) than Corrales. Mayweather doesn't have nearly Chico's power, and he'd be easier for Erik to reach. Chico has turned into a very dangerous fighter.

I wont go so far as to say Erik can and would beat Chico, but I damn sure will not say he cant! Other than amazing power (the same thing Manny had to offer) what does Chico bring? Not a whole hell of alot, and I dont think Erik would get ko'ed by him either. It could go the same way it did with Manny..him not getting knocked out, and the outpointing Corrales. It could happen...I just wont automatically count him out, thats all.

Is it going to be replayed on Sat?


I would assume so...

Is it going to be replayed on Sat?

on the Vargas undercard ;) but they wont show any of the co-events, and they Hussein-Arce fight was great too!

on the Vargas undercard ;) but they wont show any of the co-events, and they Hussein-Arce fight was great too!


I'm pissed that I had to miss it now...that Arce-Hussein fight sounds like it was a slugfest. :(

my first time seeing arce fight. hes a freaking nut and i like it.

I'm pissed that I had to miss it now...that Arce-Hussein fight sounds like it was a slugfest. :(

It was, and the best part is Arce came damn close to knocking him out in the first round! Hussein put up one hell of a comback, but his corner threw in the towel late..that pissed him off very much!!!
Anyway, do you want a copy of the entire card OG?

It was, and the best part is Arce came damn close to knocking him out in the first round! Hussein put up one hell of a comback, but his corner threw in the towel late..that pissed him off very much!!!
Anyway, do you want a copy of the entire card OG?


That would be sweet. How much? I could trade you the Morales/Barrera III - Taylor/Joppy card in addition to paying you. You name it :D

on the Vargas undercard ;) but they wont show any of the co-events, and they Hussein-Arce fight was great too!

Hussein - Arce fight was a great worth the $45. Although my fighter didn't win.

That would be sweet. How much? I could trade you the Morales/Barrera III - Taylor/Joppy card in addition to paying you. You name it :D

Thanks but I already have that too...just reimburse me on the shipping and were good ;)

Wtf is wrong with you. Your saying this should teach him a lesson and you faulting Manny for not producing a KD. You shouldn't blame Manny for nothing. The kid showed heart, trained hard, gave it his all and that should be enough for his fans.


Nope. I'm not faulting Manny for not producing a KD. But I'm looking at the tough training regimen of Morales and Marquez. I don't believe Manny has considered the advantage of that. Even Barerra did that rigorous training before he fought Erik.

I know its a lot of work. For sure only the most diehard fan would have seen Manny training, if he's in the mountain. But I think Manny can be stronger if he makes the same sacrifice.

Of course, he gave us a good fight. And I admire him for that. But I know he'll be fighting some more. And he needs to fight the best to show he's the best. So he needs a spartan no-nonsense training to be able to stay at the top.

I wont go so far as to say Erik can and would beat Chico, but I damn sure will not say he cant! Other than amazing power (the same thing Manny had to offer) what does Chico bring? Not a whole hell of alot, and I dont think Erik would get ko'ed by him either. It could go the same way it did with Manny..him not getting knocked out, and the outpointing Corrales. It could happen...I just wont automatically count him out, thats all.
Not sure if you saw Chico and Freitas, but Chico showed an amazing level of maturity in that fight. He was patient, waited for his shots, all the while constantly keeping pressure on Acelino to keep him moving and expending energy, yet at the same time he was conserving it himself. Goosen has really turned him around. He's gone from a one dimensional slugger, who would stand in front of an opponent until either he or they fell, to a boxer/puncher who thinks his way through a fight.

Anyway, I wouldn't count Morales out against Chico either, but I really do think he'd have a better shot against Mayweather than against Chico. Two years ago, I'd have picked Erik in a heartbeat, but I'd have serious reservations about it now. I'd actually like to see Chico matched against Mayweather again, just to see how he compares now. It could surprise everybody.