View Full Version : Glengoffe Johnson makes exciting fights
jpboxer3 09-26-2004, 04:32 AM He went right after RJ and brought the fight to him from start to finish.If only RJ was more offensive minded,this could have been a back and forth war.G.J's punch output amazed me and he kept a steady pace without slowing down the entire 9rds.I think G.J won 7 out of the 9 Rounds which is impressive,because whens the last time you saw RJ lose that many Rds,not even Tarver could win that many. G.J is a crowd pleasing fighter,something that RJ hasn't always been.The fighter with more desire G.J kept moving foward and kept pounding away on RJ like he was nobody.He showed a warrior-like mentality and relentless aggression that convinced me that any fight he's in would be entertaining to watch.Cant wait to see him fight again.
*RJ will still have his job as a HBO commentator.Who knows where Johnson would go if he had lost this fight.The fighter with more to fight for won this fight.
spinksjinx 09-26-2004, 08:52 AM He went right after RJ and brought the fight to him from start to finish.If only RJ was more offensive minded,this could have been a back and forth war.G.J's punch output amazed me and he kept a steady pace without slowing down the entire 9rds.I think G.J won 7 out of the 9 Rounds which is impressive,because whens the last time you saw RJ lose that many Rds,not even Tarver could win that many. G.J is a crowd pleasing fighter,something that RJ hasn't always been.The fighter with more desire G.J kept moving foward and kept pounding away on RJ like he was nobody.He showed a warrior-like mentality and relentless aggression that convinced me that any fight he's in would be entertaining to watch.Cant wait to see him fight again.
*RJ will still have his job as a HBO commentator.Who knows where Johnson would go if he had lost this fight.The fighter with more to fight for won this fight.
Good post as one of the commentators (I think lamps put) The man with the less money is hungrier...Glen came right at jones...
I was impressed with the first round alone, I am hearing the rules and to touch gloves and look back and next thing glen comes running out of his corner pushing Roy up on the ropes, I was like :eek: and I figured Roy will get off the ropes and dominate like he always does...He didnt and then I was like :o...Glen fought that nice pace throughout the whole fight and kept inside which roy cant handle, it was a good fight for johnson glad he did his homework that to beat roy you have to bully and stand where YOU want to stand to fight....I was impressed although shocked at the knockout....
When he went down and just laid motionless although, I am not a roy fan I was like OMG :confused: is he in a coma or paralyzed lol, I was worried....It was a great fight and for Glen to keep the same pace from round one to nine, really shows something about glen johnson....
GREAT FIGHT!
LuKahnLi 09-26-2004, 09:10 AM Glenn has always been a good fighter. That is it. He is an overachieving blue collar fighter.
spinksjinx 09-26-2004, 09:16 AM Glenn has always been a good fighter. That is it. He is an overachieving blue collar fighter.
"Im not the best, Im just willing to fight the best"
Best quote I have heared from anyone in a long time...
I take my hat off to Glen, I never heard of him before last night but he made enough noise for me to remember it for a lifetime...
A lot of people are going to blame the concussion on the head hitting the canvas while it did, jones was out cold with his eyes back in his head before he even fell.....Glen just knocked him silly and I think it was more devastating than tarvers ko.
It must suck to be tarver knowing wow my only big money fight is pissed away in a matter of 45 minutes *ouch*
tracylee 09-26-2004, 11:53 AM I've seen Glencoffee Johnson fight 7 times and he usually end's up getting screwed on the cards, so last night was a nice change for him . I had it 79-73 at the end of the 8th (giving Jones the 3rd round; not being biased, thats just what I saw).
I got a little ticked with Manny Steward for saying that Glen was being "amateurish and immature" for attacking Jones like that in the first round; I kept thinking "its all about the mental game Manny, and damned if he didnt win that round on MY card doing it :D ) and naturally the completely OBJECTIVE HBO crew were like "well, he MAY have won that first round"...excuse me, but what the hell? He MAY have? If you didnt give that round to him, then you'd better give it to the ref. cause Jones sure didnt win it.
I feel a little sorry for Jones, but I'm very, very happy for Glenn...after so many bad decision's, it's about time!!!
Oh Spinks, I liked that quote too; he earned my complete respect for saying that (not to mention totally outboxing Jones :p )
SonnyG8R 09-26-2004, 12:02 PM Johnson deserves credit. He was fighting at a dizzying pace and I had no doubt that the fight was not going the distance. I really thought Johnson would punch himself out, tire, and get KTFO in the later rounds. Well obviously it didn't turn out that way. So props to Johnson. He left an impression on me as well.
ejk22 09-26-2004, 12:04 PM I've seen Glencoffee Johnson fight 7 times and he usually end's up getting screwed on the cards, so last night was a nice change for him . I had it 79-73 at the end of the 8th (giving Jones the 3rd round; not being biased, thats just what I saw).
I got a little ticked with Manny Steward for saying that Glen was being "amateurish and immature" for attacking Jones like that in the first round; I kept thinking "its all about the mental game Manny, and damned if he didnt win that round on MY card doing it :D ) and naturally the completely OBJECTIVE HBO crew were like "well, he MAY have won that first round"...excuse me, but what the hell? He MAY have? If you didnt give that round to him, then you'd better give it to the ref. cause Jones sure didnt win it.
I feel a little sorry for Jones, but I'm very, very happy for Glenn...after so many bad decision's, it's about time!!!
Oh Spinks, I liked that quote too; he earned my complete respect for saying that (not to mention totally outboxing Jones :p )
I had it exactly the same way 79-73, I don't know what those other dildo judges were watching to call it 77-75.
SonnyG8R 09-26-2004, 12:05 PM I don't know that I would say he totally outboxed Jones. And I do think Stewart made a good point. It looked like Johnson was totally shooting his load early on, and would pay the price for it. He struck me more as a desperate fighter than a smart one.
tracylee 09-26-2004, 12:10 PM I don't know that I would say he totally outboxed Jones. And I do think Stewart made a good point. It looked like Johnson was totally shooting his load early on, and would pay the price for it. He struck me more as a desperate fighter than a smart one.
I think he was trying to get in Jones' head (you know, what Jones is famous for) and I think it worked :p
Didnt outbox him? sonny, Jones won one (maybe two) rounds; what would you call it?
SonnyG8R 09-26-2004, 12:25 PM Have you ever seen replays of Ali-Foreman tracylee? That's what this fight reminded me of, except Johnson was landing more. Foreman was certainly winning rounds against Ali, but I would not say he was "outboxing" Ali.I felt certain Johnson could not keep up the pace through 12. Jones was leaning back on the ropes and sliping punches will delivering powerful body shots. Jones wasn't as busy but his puches were more measured and most of them landed cleanly.
based on the pace of this fight it was destined to end in 1 of 2 ways. Either Johnson was going to land a big clean shot and put Roy down, or he was going to tire and get ko'ed himself.
tracylee 09-26-2004, 12:32 PM Have you ever seen replays of Ali-Foreman tracylee? That's what this fight reminded me of, except Johnson was landing more. Foreman was certainly winning rounds against Ali, but I would not say he was "outboxing" Ali.I felt certain Johnson could not keep up the pace through 12. Jones was leaning back on the ropes and sliping punches will delivering powerful body shots. Jones wasn't as busy but his puches were more measured and most of them landed cleanly.
based on the pace of this fight it was destined to end in 1 of 2 ways. Either Johnson was going to land a big clean shot and put Roy down, or he was going to tire and get ko'ed himself.
Okay, I've seen the Ali-Foreman replay. But, even though I dont put alot of validity in compubox numbers, Johnson was outpunching him in every round but 2 or 3. Even though it's done by human's that make mistakes, the difference was big enough that even deducting some of the number's for Johnson you still have him outboxing Jones. Johnson applied pressure and didnt stop; Jones threw only a few combo's, but for the most part when he did punch it was ONE punch.
I know all of you think that because I dont like Jones I cant score a fight without bias, but I'm telling you as a neutral observer, Johnson outboxed him. And if it had been reversed, everyone would be saying that Jones "schooled" Johnson. I've kept any and all smart remark's about Jones' loss out of my posts out of kindness; but I stand by what I say...Johnson out punched him all night long
jack_the_rippuh 09-26-2004, 12:36 PM How happy were you when you saw Jones on the floor?
tracylee 09-26-2004, 12:39 PM How happy were you when you saw Jones on the floor?
Ah man, now youre trying to "call the dog's" on me!! :D Let's just say I was smiling....will that do? And then I started to feel sorry for him (wtf??)
jayr517 09-26-2004, 12:43 PM I don't think punch numbers necessarily mean one guys is getting outboxed, although that can be the case. I think RJ was getting out-hussled more than outboxed. IMO, outboxing is when one guy is making the other guy miss AND landing more and a better percentage of punches.
RJ was landing with the same percentage of punches as Johnson (actually, 1% better I think...27% to 26% or 28% to 27%), but Johnson threw a lot more punches. At least I think these were the overall stats. RJ averaged about 20 punches per round, which is pathetic, so it wasn't hard for Johnson to out-work RJ. RJ was like a statue in the ring most of the fight and I was a little surprised that Johnson was only able to land 27%.
Wright vs Mosley and Forrest vs Mosley are two good examples of a guy being out-boxed.
tracylee 09-26-2004, 12:52 PM Okay, that works for me, or it will have to. My girl just came in from church with a fever so you boy's will have to debate this without me...gotta take care of my baby.
jack_the_rippuh 09-26-2004, 12:59 PM That's a big decline rom Roy's normal numbers per-round..
tracylee 09-26-2004, 05:04 PM That's a big decline rom Roy's normal numbers per-round..
very big decline! He looked like a different fighter. :eek:
m00ks 09-26-2004, 06:07 PM I agree that Jones was landing shot that were more effective. The only problem was, he didn't throw enough! I think once he saw that Johnson was swinging wide and had a high punch output, Roy figured Glen would tire himself out. Only he didn't. So by say the 6-7th round. Roy starts to panick as in "Oh **** this guy's gonna keep the same pace and I'll lose on the cards" I think Roy wanted an all out assault in the final 2-3 rounds to take Johnson out. He's smart, he knew he was losing. Only he never had a chance cuz he got clocked before his offensive attack.
I'm not a huge RJJ fan but I do respect the man's accomplishments and was in my opinion p4p king (looking at his overall accomplishments more than his last outings). To see the "king" go down like that was just shocking. I was silenced for a good 5-10 minutes with my mouth open.I was sad, then worried that he might have been seriously hurt.
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