View Full Version : Ouma at 160?


DLT
03-18-2005, 04:52 PM
I asked this question about 18 months ago. I said that since Taylor wants to fight all these 154 pounders then he should fight a good one like Ouma because I think he would beat Taylor. Then after the Candelo fight I said that I would give anything to see Ouma vs Hopkins. Win or lose, that would be a great fight. I think he could give X some problems because Ouma straight doesnt give a **** and he wouldnt be scared of Bernard at at all. I think he would he could even beat Tito. Here is the link where Ouma calls everyone out. I hope someone fights him. Even Vargas because I think he would dominate him

http://www.*********.com/820.htm

joeboxer
03-18-2005, 05:00 PM
Ouma is a cool guy and deserves more hardcore fans.

Knicksman20
03-18-2005, 05:00 PM
Even though he doesn't have great power, but on his workrate alone he'd be a threat to beat any of the top guys at 160. The only thing I don't like about him is he takes way too many shots to the head unecessarily.

TyrantT316
03-18-2005, 05:33 PM
if Hopkins or Taylor defeat Ouma...I don't want to hear:

"Hopkins only beats on welters and jr middles"

"Taylor only beats on jr middles"

that is usually what happens anyway

SacTown1
03-18-2005, 05:35 PM
Ouma would be a threat at any weight on any date, because of his relentless style and awesome combo-punching....I'd make him even-$ versus Taylor, and he'd give Hopkins hell for 12 before losing 8 rounds to 4

marvelous_TG
03-18-2005, 06:01 PM
i don't know if he would do good at middle he is very short 5'8 and doesn't have the punchingpower, although he does compensate with his workrate, i think he would lose hard to taylor and hopkins those guys are to big and skilled for the small ouma, who isn't even a big guy at 154, he looked much smaller than kofi imagine how he would look against hopkins or taylor.

oldgringo
03-18-2005, 07:06 PM
Ouma eats too much leather to be a serious threat to any top guy at 160. 6'1 Hopkins would eat Ouma alive...as would Taylor and Tito. Sturm would be an interesting fight for him...being that Sturm doesn't hit very hard and Ouma would be very busy all night. Still, all of these guys are 10x the fighter that Jantuah and Candelo are. I think Ouma should stay at 154 and dominate because he's certainly a force down there (I think he'd beat Winky).

DCReprezenta
03-18-2005, 08:31 PM
Ouma being a threat to Hopkins or Tito???...cant be serious.....Keep in mind Mayorga "didnt give a ****" at a lower weight, but he quickly began to give a damn around that 7th round against Tito......and Hopkins would break Ouma down so bad that it wouldnt even be funny, simply put Hopkins is methodical so relentlessness gets you nowhere against him except on the loser's side of the post fight conference....As for him against Taylor, i think that would be interesting being so that I dont feel Taylor is a really hard puncher and his lapses can possibly be exploited by Ouma's high workrate.

phallus
03-18-2005, 08:33 PM
if Ouma was a bigger puncher he could move up to 160, i think he has better prospects at 154, there's no one to stop him from unifying the titles down there

Mech.
03-18-2005, 09:07 PM
I asked this question about 18 months ago. I said that since Taylor wants to fight all these 154 pounders then he should fight a good one like Ouma because I think he would beat Taylor. Then after the Candelo fight I said that I would give anything to see Ouma vs Hopkins. Win or lose, that would be a great fight. I think he could give X some problems because Ouma straight doesnt give a **** and he wouldnt be scared of Bernard at at all. I think he would he could even beat Tito. Here is the link where Ouma calls everyone out. I hope someone fights him. Even Vargas because I think he would dominate him

http://www.*********.com/820.htm

I seriuosly doubt he can take taylor, i think he lacks both the power and experience to beat a guy like taylor, I'll go as far as to say Taylor even stops ouma late.I give him a MUCH better chance against more limited fighters, like vargas, i even think he'll take Tito too, i think he'l out work him, to win a UD.

Super_Lightweight
03-19-2005, 01:25 AM
Ouma I think proved his chin vs Jantuah, who is a beast of a puncher and has no business fighting at 154 lbs. Some of you serioulsy underestimate Ouma. Truth is, he would have a chance vs any fighter from 147 to 160. I wouldn't favor him over every fighter, but to get to specifics, consider the following...a list of his chances vs fighters from 147-160 in my opinion:

Zab Judah (Ouma 75% chance to win)
Oscar De La Hoya (60% chance to win)
Fernando Vargas (70% chance to win)
Tito Trinidad (30% chance to win)
Bernard Hopkins (35% chance to win)
Winky Wright (60% chance to win)
Felix Sturm (60% chance to win)
Howard Eastman (50% chance to win)
Shane Mosley (75% chance to win)
Ricardo Mayorga (35% chance to win)
Cory Spinks (65% chance to win)
Antonio Margarito (65% chance to win)

Basically my point is, Ouma CAN beat anyone. He does have the ability.

Super_Lightweight
03-19-2005, 01:47 AM
Man I wish he would fight Santos and get rid of that PAB once and for all. Wear Santos out and stop him late, ahead on all cards.

Truth
03-19-2005, 08:49 AM
Ouma is a cool guy and deserves more hardcore fans.

I saw Ouma fight on the Arturo Gatti undercard and I thought he was a exciting fighter to watch.

RwK
03-19-2005, 10:05 AM
a exciting fighter to watch.

I totally agree. Ouma's willingness to eat leather is a plus in attributing excitement. He has great skills, fast hands, and arguably the best footwork in boxing. His flaws are what make him interesting to watch:
Lack of Power and He likes to trade punches in short exchanges landing twice the punches his opponent does. He gets hit in the process.

Although he has these "skills", him being an exciting fighter is limited to 154lbs and below. Facing the big boys at 160 would prove too difficult for the "outgunned" Ouma.

oldgringo
03-19-2005, 01:51 PM
Ouma I think proved his chin vs Jantuah, who is a beast of a puncher and has no business fighting at 154 lbs. Some of you serioulsy underestimate Ouma. Truth is, he would have a chance vs any fighter from 147 to 160. I wouldn't favor him over every fighter, but to get to specifics, consider the following...a list of his chances vs fighters from 147-160 in my opinion:

Zab Judah (Ouma 75% chance to win)
Oscar De La Hoya (60% chance to win)
Fernando Vargas (70% chance to win)
Tito Trinidad (30% chance to win)
Bernard Hopkins (35% chance to win)
Winky Wright (60% chance to win)
Felix Sturm (60% chance to win)
Howard Eastman (50% chance to win)
Shane Mosley (75% chance to win)
Ricardo Mayorga (35% chance to win)
Cory Spinks (65% chance to win)
Antonio Margarito (65% chance to win)

Basically my point is, Ouma CAN beat anyone. He does have the ability.


While I agree with a lot of these... I just dont give him ANY chance against Hopkins or Tito. Fighting a guy who can hit hard is one thing...but fighting a guy who can hit hard and possesses superior skills to your own is another.


Ouma/Margarito would be a dream fight. Imagine the compubox numbers at the end of the fight. Margarito proved he has a good enough chin to bang at 154...both guys would just be battering each other by the end of the fight.

MetalVomit
03-19-2005, 02:09 PM
Ouma would be a threat at any weight on any date, because of his relentless style and awesome combo-punching....I'd make him even-$ versus Taylor, and he'd give Hopkins hell for 12 before losing 8 rounds to 4


Ouma is a threat, I enjoy watching him fight. But he does showboat a bit much, and he gets hit a lot.

borikua
03-19-2005, 02:09 PM
Ouma should stay at 154, take some titles and then move up...

IwatchBoxing
03-19-2005, 02:18 PM
Oumas might move up in weight for the money or maybe he thinks he'll have more power their, cause at 154, Mayorga and Santos would beat him (other big names are: Verno Phillips, Vernon Forrest), too much risk not enough reward in it.

Super_Lightweight
03-19-2005, 02:34 PM
Ouma already walloped Verno Phillips twice who was on a hot steak until Ouma rematched him. He hasn't fought since. Ouma would beat Santos if they ever fought in my opinion. Santos has no power to offer Ouma and Margarito would have beaten Santos had it gone on longer but it didn't. Ouma doesn't get cut and he would never stop coming at Santos. Santos would get tired late and fall.

jack_the_rippuh
03-19-2005, 02:39 PM
The only thing what sucks about him is that even though he stands and delivers right in front of his opponent, his hits don't seem to be that powerful. I mean, I don't expect to see him knock out someone in the first few rounds, I just think that the damage he does by laying so much leather on his opponent should accumulate and destroy them for the late going....this is from only seeing his last fight, so I could be wrong, but he should have had Jantuah out of there late..

Super_Lightweight
03-19-2005, 02:43 PM
Well Jantuah is very tough and really doesn't even belong at 154 lbs, he should be fighting at middleweight. He has seriously deadly power and a good chin, too. Ouma doesn't have a whole lot of power and it gets the job done.

IwatchBoxing
03-19-2005, 02:44 PM
Ouma already walloped Verno Phillips twice who was on a hot steak until Ouma rematched him. He hasn't fought since. Ouma would beat Santos if they ever fought in my opinion. Santos has no power to offer Ouma and Margarito would have beaten Santos had it gone on longer but it didn't. Ouma doesn't get cut and he would never stop coming at Santos. Santos would get tired late and fall.
Margarito would of beat Santos but he didnt two times, Santos fought him twice since he has a name, two times Margarito had a chance at beating Santos and he failed so that "what if" stuff doesnt hold water anymore, both Ouma, him have belts, and nothing esle to do so they should fight each other instead of him moving up, Santos isnt a name, he would accept the fight cause he is a no name fighter, but Ouma feels this as a risk, so he wont, it would be pretty evenly matched I think (if anything).

Plus, Mayorga would KO Ouma 5th RD, no power to keep him off.

Super_Lightweight
03-19-2005, 03:07 PM
You're joking right? Everyone knows that fight was Margarito's...or else Santos would be fighting Cintron. Santos is not the man, he is good, but Margarito is better and proved it in most people's eyes in thei last fight.

Ouma has as much power as Forrest and Forrest was able to have much success in the rematch vs Mayorga. Also, Spinks beat Mayorga with no power whatsoever. To say that Ouma has nothing for Mayorga is a joke.