Sam Peter is scheduled to fight Gilbert Martinez. What ****ing moron came up with that idea? He's already beaten opponents much superior to Martinez, so why ****in bother? It's not like he's shown much inclination to back down from tough comp before. If he just wants to mark time, he oughta be fighting comeone like Oleg Mazkaev, Kirk Johnson or Larry Donald. Damaged goods all of em, sure, but each more of a challenge than Gilbert ****in Martinez. This is like a bad joke.

Probably no one wants to risk getting hurt by a no name guy, so he is stuck right now.

Sam Peter is scheduled to fight Gilbert Martinez. What ****ing moron came up with that idea? He's already beaten opponents much superior to Martinez, so why ****in bother? It's not like he's shown much inclination to back down from tough comp before. If he just wants to mark time, he oughta be fighting comeone like Oleg Mazkaev, Kirk Johnson or Larry Donald. Damaged goods all of em, sure, but each more of a challenge than Gilbert ****in Martinez. This is like a bad joke.

He's just keeping busy, nothing wrong with that.

Oh and Larry Donald got beat Gilbert Martinez and put up an Ok show with Kirk Johnson in his last fight, so its not like he is that bad.

Oh and Larry Donald got beat Gilbert Martinez and put up an Ok show with Kirk Johnson in his last fight, so its not like he is that bad.
Ah, but it is. Martinez is a guy who should be retired. It's not as if he had any hope of world title contention. Don't get me wrong, I love a good journeyman, a la Glen Johnson, but Matinez doesn't even bother getting in shape any more.

As far as keeping as not losing to a no name guy goes, you can't get much more no-name than Martinez. It's possible, but you would have to try reeally hard.

And Larry Donald didn't lose to Gilbert Martinez. Not that I'm a fan, or anything, I'm just keeping the facts straight.

Martinez is a perfect tune-up punching bag, he has no power, he can't move, but he can take a decent punch, so any top heavyweight looking to keep busy will always look to a guy like Martinez (from the SacTown by the way) to stay in the public eyes and ears....can't blame Peter's management on this one, all of the top heavyweights are either scheduled for a fight, with Don King, or both.....

He's just keeping busy, nothing wrong with that.
Except that he's wasting a fight, risking an injury, e.g., a cut, and making me angry by taking this guy on. Look, I like Peter a lot, but if he's gonna keep busy, he oughta do it against the type of opponent I mentioned. At least there's some kind of question about who wins.

If I were his manager, and I wanted my fighter to stay sharp, I'd pick a guy like Ray Austin, who's on a decent run but is old, Maskaev, who poses a threat...sort of, or DaVarryl Williamson, who showed so well against Klitschko. **** this ****, though.

Martinez is a perfect tune-up punching bag, he has no power, he can't move, but he can take a decent punch, so any top heavyweight looking to keep busy will always look to a guy like Martinez (from the SacTown by the way) to stay in the public eyes and ears....can't blame Peter's management on this one, all of the top heavyweights are either scheduled for a fight, with Don King, or both.....
Yes I can. I just did at the beginning of this thread.

But look, seriously, this guy was supposed to retire following the Johnson fight. And as far as tuning up against a punching bag, how about any of the fighters I just mentioned a bit ago? Ok, Donald and Johnson can both move, and they may be connected with King, I'm not sure, and yeh, Davarryl Williamson has a fight scheduled, but please note: he doesn't have an opponent yet. Aright, King again. So try Austin or Maskaev.

Except that he's wasting a fight, risking an injury, e.g., a cut, and making me angry by taking this guy on. Look, I like Peter a lot, but if he's gonna keep busy, he oughta do it against the type of opponent I mentioned. At least there's some kind of question about who wins.

If I were his manager, and I wanted my fighter to stay sharp, I'd pick a guy like Ray Austin, who's on a decent run but is old, Maskaev, who poses a threat...sort of, or DaVarryl Williamson, who showed so well against Klitschko. **** this ****, though.
Garbage = Garbage, no matter how bad it stinks.....

a fight with an Austin/Maskaev/WIlliamson is equally as worhtless as a match-up with Martinez, just becuase Martinez stinks worse doesn't mean that the other piles of garbage in the heap are any better per-say....

this is why Martinez gets the nod vs those other guys, if you're gonna fight garbage, find yourself the smelliest pile and trash it!!!

While I wish Peter would fight someone better than Martinez, you lso have to consider a number of factors. A lot of heavyweights (including Johnson I believe) have fights coming up.

Also, it's hard to not fight someone in the heavyweight division in a stay busy fight that isn't fairly low in class. I mean, seriously, there aren't that many options, and while there are a few decent options, it's very possibly that those guys wouldn't take a fight vs Peter because of the high-risk low-reward factor.

We'll see in the future whether or not he means business, but I wouldn't judge him too much by this one crappy opponent (make no mistake though, the opponent is crappy). Michael Grant would be a better choice.

Garbage = Garbage, no matter how bad it stinks.....

a fight with an Austin/Maskaev/WIlliamson is equally as worhtless as a match-up with Martinez, just becuase Martinez stinks worse doesn't mean that the other piles of garbage in the heap are any better per-say....

this is why Martinez gets the nod vs those other guys, if you're gonna fight garbage, find yourself the smelliest pile and trash it!!!
Look, obviously you're correct. I mean, obviously, that's what his management is thinking. What I'm saying is, it's a bad philosophy. Fans are fickle, and a lotta people are gonna lose a little respect for Peter if this fight comes off.

And Larry Donald didn't lose to Gilbert Martinez. Not that I'm a fan, or anything, I'm just keeping the facts straight.


Ya that was a pretty big mistake on my part.
Good Karma for you calling me on it.

I agree. Sam Peter needs a name fighter to give him a bit more luster. I think Donald would be a perfect opponent. Hell, fight Williamson and destroy him. People will appreciate that more than a Martinez win, considering that Williamson just KD'ed Wlad and beat McCall.

Were Ray Robinson and his manager stupid for fighting a bunch of nobodys in between title defenses. Descent fighters like Tommy Bell, Eddie Finazzo or Georgie Abrams. They were not world beaters but they were ok fighters. Alot of fighters in the older days used to fight regularly, against whoever stepped up for them with a challenge. Staying active is part of staying sharp, they understood this as do the managers of today. The only difference is that today a loss seems to be something on par with catching a sexually transmitted desease in the publics eyes. If they loss today, they are written off as damaged goods. If they lost in the older days, they kept them fighting and the public did not label them as anything but a fighter.

I like the fact that this guys managers are letting him fight and earn some money in between big bouts. He will learn his trade all the more and also may feel a bit of a boost in confidence knowing that he is not walking on egg shells to get to the title..........Rockin'