What the hell happened. By the looks of the video clip I saw, it looked fully applied. How did Chonan get out and how long was he lying there armbared?

Basicly Chonan seems to have rubber limbs and an insane pain threshold. You guess on how he took that armbar is as good as mine.

Looked to me like Newton had it, and kinda let it slip out. Weird for a guy who is a submissions-out-the-anus type of dude.

I think he was afraid to break it, so he let Chonan wiggle his way out of it. It looked like he sunk it in pretty tight at first. Maybe he should've broken it.

Word. Newton is a nice guy and lost for being a nice guy.

If that's the case maybe Newton needs a little attitude reform, this is MMA and you can't go easy on anybody. Newton still rocks though.

No one wants to break anyone's limb in a fight. Many people have been in the position to but didn't and jsut moved onto another move. Example, Newton vs Chonan, Herring vs Inoue when Herring actually told Enson to tap or he would break his arm but just let go when Enson told him to break it. It's one thing to just have it happen when it's not expected (Mir vs Sylvia) but when you know it's going to happen it messes with your head and is hard to do.

I train with a guy that has limbs like Chonan it's pretty cool to see what he can get out of.

That's mostly true but not all guys have a problem breaking limbs, Mir being one of them. Mir has stated many times that he does submissions to break limbs. He popped Abbotts foot badly and as you mentioned he broke Sylvias arm. Saku dislocated Renzo and Roylers arms if I'm not mistaken about Royler(I only saw clips). My point is, If it means winning the fight I don't understand why you would make a conscious decision to not break a limb. At that l;evel of competition, If a guy doesn't tap, then **** him. Ofcourse this is all in my opinion.

I don't think that Royler had any severe injuries from the kimura Sak had him in. It was just a super tight kimura, and Royler had nowhere to go. Sak might have broken it, if the ref hadn't of stopped it.

Do you have a source on that? It looked as though it was injured the way Royler was holding it after the fight.

I've never heard anything about Royler being injured from that kimura

It was dislocated but nothing was broken.

It was dislocated but nothing was broken.

There you have it. And lets face it armbars rarely brake bones, usually the capsule(can't remember scientific term) in the elbow is popped while the arm hyper extends. I always thought it was strange how Sylvias arm broke, must have been the way Mir was hanging off it.